Re: [RDA-L] punctuation in 511 notes

has come up repeatedly, and this might be a good time to get rid of it once and for all. To eliminate confusion, perhaps this example could simply be fast-tracked for editing, to illustrate the ISBD practice? Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.

Re: [RDA-L] "Date of publication not identified" & DtSt, Dates

Dates = , I'm seeing some RDA records with 264 _1 . $c [date of publication not identified], and guessed dates in the 008: s200u, ; but I don't think that is correct. Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com> d

Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA

rresponding Carrier Type, as long as you *do* list a carrier type for other contents? Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com> debo...@marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com> www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Desc

Re: [RDA-L] "Date of publication not identified" & DtSt, Dates

- - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com> debo...@marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com> www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Gene Fieg Sent: Tues

Re: [RDA-L] "Date of publication not identified" & DtSt, Dates

.--therefore if [date of publication not identified], and [date of distribution not identified], and you have no date of manufacture either, then enter [date of manufacture not identified] , for a single-part resource (2.10.6.6 <http://access.rdatoolkit.org/2.10.6.6.html> ) Deborah - - - Deb

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

RC, however, I certainly agree with you that we have to add the element label as a designator term, since the RDA relationship element name 'Publisher' (21.3 <http://access.rdatoolkit.org/21.3.html> ) is not explicit in MARC 710. Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marc

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

mind, it is *really* important to record this information, if you want to be able to, someday, reliably machine map the data in the new RDA/MARC records you are creating into a new encoding format that is used for data recorded under RDA principles. Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz

Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3

My mistake, sorry, you are correct Jonathan, 'screenwriter' would be at the Work level, in the situation we are discussing, not the Expression level, so what we are missing is, indeed, "a way to record the composer as a contributor (not creator) for a _work_" - - - De

Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3

cript, or scene used in the production of a motion picture Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com> debo...@marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com> www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Date of work for feature films

Use 046$k for the Date of Work element: http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad046.html So: 130 _0 |a Ocean's eleven (Motion picture : 2001) 046 __ |k 2001 380 __ |a Motion picture Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.c

Re: [RDA-L] 260 and 264 field

o a set of PCC guidelines for the 264, available at: <http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/documents/264-Guidelines.doc> http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/documents/264-Guidelines.doc Hope this helps, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com <http://w

Re: [RDA-L] Comparison table of extent terms

Ah, good point; so then it would be: Content: cartographic image Content: text Media needed to access content: unmediated Carrier: volume Extent: 1 atlas (68 pages) -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: [RDA-L] Comparison table of extent terms

Media needed to access content: unmediated Carrier: sheet Extent: 1 drawing As I say, I might be quite wrong with these examples. It would be great to see some more 'official' examples of how these elements relate to each other. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of

Re: [RDA-L] Repeating 260$c for publication and copyright dates

field) or 264/266/267/268 --in records constructed following RDA conventions. Regards, Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying RDA records

D order was assumed, but it would be good to get clarification on that. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying RDA records

;r' to mean RDA, because we must be able to make this punctuation distinction. Hope this helps, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access /

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying RDA records

er $e: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd040.html 040 ##$aDLC$cDLC$erda$edcrmb Regards, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and

Re: [RDA-L] [sic] ?

e should read: The Oxford history of England Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com/> Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 _ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:R

Re: [RDA-L] latin, the dead language

ered to be important for identification or access. -- So, [sic] and [i.e.] are both out, but we havent' lost useful information for our users, just moved it. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

east until something else is in place that will allow us to get as wild and crazy as we please, without breaking machine matching any worse than it already is. Thanks, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 >

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

check the registry and match on 'variant' terms? And, if so, when will that become an integral part of our cataloging procedures? Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com/> Voice/Fax: (321)

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

e you need more granluarity, not less. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description > and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV

Re: [RDA-L] Purpose of transcribed imprint (was: Form)

added entry'/'access point' when useful (or always, if that is what RDA is saying-sorry my subscription to RDA just got 'lost' so I can't check that until they 'find' it again). Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: [RDA-L] More granulalrity if imprint year coding?

. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description > and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of > Mark Eh

Re: [RDA-L] Errata for RDA Entity Relationship Diagrams

to be able to search *everyone's* content related support requests, not just the ones we make ourselves. It would be very, very useful to know the kinds of *content-related* questions that others have, and, even more so, the official answers to those questions. Regards, Deborah -- De

Re: [RDA-L] RDA websites

might be, who would be responsible for maintaining such a thing?? CC:DA? ALCTS? LC? one of the other NatLibs or their committees? JSC itself? The cataloging community as a whole, if we someone could jump start it? Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marc

Re: [RDA-L] RDA websites

reasons why in either case) There must be some kind of software out there that would help in tracking these open issues, but I guess the harder question is who would do this? Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: [RDA-L] Accompanying material, RDA, and MARC

would be a list that 'goes the other way' to provide the RDA elements, with their corresponding ISBD elements-a very different kettle of fish. Does this sound reasonable? Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax:

[RDA-L] Availability of LCPS

In your "RDA alternatives and options" document, under 1.4 you say "(More info in LCPS)". Where can we access these LC Policy Standards? Thank you, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 >

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty-Separate elements for transcribed and not-transcribed data

7; (sorry) to put the link (or have it put for us), don't we? Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From: Myers, John F. [snip] > > New-York > > Or alternatively, &

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

r a controlled place of publication? Perhaps under Relationships instead of Attributes? Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

[RDA-L] RDA changes not in JSC list--Incorrect date of publication

DA 2.7.6.3 Recording Date of Production If the date as it appears in the resource is known to be fictitious or incorrect, make a note giving the actual date How would this be entered in RDA/MARC: 008DateType: 008Date1: 008Date2: 046: 260: 500: Thanks, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Cons

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

Way too easy to make a mistake and enter upper-case when you meant lower-case. That would be my guess for why they don't want to double up that way. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -

[RDA-L] RDA to MARC templates - was [RDA-L] Instruction

ionships between things. So far, I am still not hearing that these data entry forms are going to be made available from any of the 'official' sites. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 __ I

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles

always make it so that a 240 is given I1 = 0 when PT=TP, so that the 240 display *could* be suppressed in a current OPAC (0 - Not printed or displayed) Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > Kevin M. Rand

Re: [RDA-L] RDA event in Montreal, May 29

Sorry about sending this to the list--I hit the wrong button :-{ -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com/> Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 _ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Descripti

Re: [RDA-L] RDA event in Montreal, May 29

Maybe I should go to this? http://tsig.wikispaces.com/Pre-conference+2009 -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com/> Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 _ From: Resource Description and Access / Re

Re: JSC to meet, April 2006

ussions of Part II at the ALA Summer Conference? Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description >

Re: Correspondences between AA2 and RDA rules

Excellent suggestion, Ed. Or perhaps even just a list of the new rules that are supposed to represent changes. Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > -Original Message- > From:

Re: 2.2.2. More than one preferred source of information

les still intend us to follow the above (in which case we need to get the 1.0A3a)v)wording back into the new rules somewhere), or are they trying to make a change--in which case perhaps we need to be pointed directly to 2.2.2)? Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality

2.2.2. More than one preferred source of information

n both labels? I'd very much appreciate clarification on whether the intent is that we will be using Side One as the source or will still use both sides--as per AACR 1.0A3a)v). Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> <http://www.marcofquality.com/

2.2.4. Information taken from sources outside the resource itself

tc. place of publication, distribution, etc. date of publication, distribution, etc. series Thanks, Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

2.1.1. Comprehensive description--Separate source of information

why "separate"? Why not just "source of information identifying the resource as a whole"? Thanks, Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> <http://www.marcofquality.com/> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: Consistency needed in data elements required for machine-matching

Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:34 AM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Consistency needed in data elements required for machine-matching R, This is what I want to send to the list to get people thinking about

Consistency needed in data elements required for machine-matching

'm sure I will find other examples to submit formally, but I would very much like to encourage others concerned about machine matching to add their voices and examples to mine about this important and much-neglected aspect of 'cataloging'. Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Databa

Re: Comments on 2.4-2.5

0‡aDepartment of the Army pamphlet ;‡v27-50 Updated headings: 490 1 ‡aDepartment of the Army pamphlet ;‡v27-50 830 0‡aDA pam ;‡v27-50. Pretty nifty. Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: Comments on 2.4-2.5 (2.4.0.3)

quot; ($e) data could be attached to the controlled headings to supply that information sometimes, but it would be extremely difficult to translate some responsibility statements into a nice clean one-word designation, e.g., "illustrated, edited and translated by ..." or "with teaching ques

RDA 2.7.0 Recording Names of Publishers--Parent vs Imprint

on which name to use (bearing in mind that machine matching processes crosscheck this data)? Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> <http://www.marcofquality.com/> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: RDA 2.3.2.2 parallel title comments

ite separate as in "Wood Cree" and "Les Cris des forets", and so is currently given separately (in ISBD terms: has the separating '='; in MARC terms: is given in a subfield $b). Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Shortening publisher's names

we will no longer see "Alfred A. Knopf" in one record and "Knopf" in another. Deborah --- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality --> http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

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