Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

different perspectives. Appreciate it. Thanks. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller < wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de> wrote: > Thomas Brenndorfer wrote: > > AACR2 also says “not named in a statement of responsi

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

I would take Thomas's solution. It makes the 245 field consistent and neat. Also, we can supply access points for other important persons. So users are able to search them. My personal opinion. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Brennd

[RDA-L] note order in RDA

order really does not matter. But so far we are still working on a traditional work-form. Is there a general practice? Or I missed something? Thanks for your help. Joan -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road

Re: [RDA-L] GMD revisited

and update. One day you may have to get rid of them. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Goldfarb, Kathie wrote: > I am planning on adding a $h. In our public record, we do have icons that > provide some description, but, maybe I am too ol

Re: [RDA-L] RDA dtst t + a 260/264 muse on training question

So what is the purpose of AACR2 rule requiring a difference between copyright and publication dates? Is it a stupid question? Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Snow, Karen wrote: > Patricia Folger wrote: > "The former coding in OCLC

Re: [RDA-L] RDA dtst t + a 260/264 muse on training question

According to PCC guidelines on 264 field, all new original RDA records use 264 field. My reading on Library of Congress Policy, transcribe copyright date if there is one on piece. Supply an probable date if there is no publication date. Hopefully it help. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland

Re: [RDA-L] 533 in RDA

not use 533/534 fields for reproductions in a workshop at the OLAC conference. I am also wondering the "fate" of the field. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Michael Cohen wrote: > The MARC to RDA mapping does have an entry for 533

Re: [RDA-L] Color: an attribute at the manifestation or content level?

Yes. You are right. I did not see that. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Arakawa, Steven wrote: > I don’t think the definition of color would apply to illustrations, > since the rule explicitly excludes black and white or shades o

Re: [RDA-L] Color: an attribute at the manifestation or content level?

Thanks for the explanation :) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, JSC Chair wrote: > Your question points out an interesting discrepancy in RDA that was > carried over from AACR2 (2.17B1) and should be re-examined with regard to > Earl

[RDA-L] Color: an attribute at the manifestation or content level?

and white. So for any illustrations, we can encode them “color”, unless we give more precise descriptions such as black and white, or taupe and blue green. Thanks, Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

It is not in RDA Toolkit. But it is covered in PCC guideline. I remember that OCLC Technical Bulletin also mentioned it. www.loc.gov/aba/*pcc*/documents/*264*-*Guidelines*.doc Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Monica Boyer wrote: > A slight tang

Re: [RDA-L] When part of 245 comes from outside resource

nd match records with a manifestation at hands. We need to make sure that the record displayed on the screen is the right one. Matching is an important process for copy cataloging. By the way, catalogers work on a staff client that is different from user client. Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wa

Re: [RDA-L] When part of 245 comes from outside resource

there would be many many such notes and cause the similar issues. My imagination. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:37 AM, C.J. Carty wrote: > My colleagues and I have been debating something and would like to benefit > from the collective wisdom of th

Re: [RDA-L] RDA media types

You may use $3 to specify parts of the resource. A little suggestion :) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Jenny Wright wrote: > Hello RDA-listers, > I'm hoping someone can help with a query about an MP3 CD-ROM we're > cataloguing. &

Re: [RDA-L] Description of symbols - in which language?

(cataloger's decision) should be loyal to the cataloging language. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: > Heidrun said: > > >What strikes me as odd is that RDA is not very consistent here. With > >respect to a

Re: [RDA-L] Quick question re: abridgements in RDA

777 seems to indicate a relationship between manifestations. *Summary of (work)*, or *Abridgement of (expression)* can be reflected by notes (unstructured or structured), authorized access point (700/710/711/730), or identifier (700/710/711/730). Just my reading on RDA Toolkit. Thanks, Joan Wang

Re: [RDA-L] Folded unnumbered leaves, or Unnumbered folded leaves?

I would use "2 unnumbered folded leaves". My feeling is that the actual number and "unnumbered" cannot be separated in this syntax. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: > 2 unnumbered folded l

Re: [RDA-L] Revised $e list; other suggestions?

Thanks for the list. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: > abridger > actor > addressee > animator > annotator > appellant > appellee > architect > [arranger[ > arranger of music [con

Re: [RDA-L] I'm taillights

I guess that I will dream of entities dancing tonight. Hopefully they can move to the right place in a right way :D Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Jack Wu wrote: > Ingenious. Picture certainly worth a thousand words. The 4 Group one > entit

Re: [RDA-L] [and X others]

ld suggest following the example. Or find examples from OCLC or LIbrary of Congress practice, and follow that :)* * Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Michael Cohen wrote: > RDA 2.4.1.5 allows for the omission of names performing the same fu

Re: [RDA-L] Plurals in content types

automated library system. Also, I am still wondering how many people would expect using plural words to answer a "Type" question. I think that it is a qualitative question. Or both singular and plural words are acceptable? Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Nov 29, 20

Re: [RDA-L] Plurals in content types

Should be carrier type instead of material type. Sorry about that. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > My understanding is that content type refers to an attribute of an > expression. It is an abstract term. It means what are in

Re: [RDA-L] Plurals in content types

physical objects, they are not used to refer to a specific item. They just represent a type of material or media. The 300 field actually refers to a specific physical item that you can count. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Jenifer K Marquardt wrote

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship Designators

It can be specified as "author", "artist", "compiler", depending on the case. In MARC and cataloging practice, I believe that the 100 field indicates the creator relationship between a person and a work. We can use subfield "e" to record a more specific re

Re: [RDA-L] Recording Statements of Responsibility Relating to Series

Sorry. Should be series instead of serial. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > There is an authority record for the serial in OCLC. According to OCLC > current practice, catalogers should use access points as established in the > authority file, whether those forms are

Re: [RDA-L] Recording Statements of Responsibility Relating to Series

record :D Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Chris Rae Todd wrote: > I endorse Kevin's reading of this situation as the relationship between a > resource and the series that it is part of. I also went back to chapter 6 >

Re: [RDA-L] Reproduction

Thanks to J. McRee (Mac) Elrod. I know what you are saying. Joan Wang On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: > Joan Wang said: > > >But what is the solution for those that have not been cataloged? It > >is possible that the original manifestations have not

Re: [RDA-L] Reproduction

ription and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:55 PM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Reproduction > > ** ** > > Come out ano

Re: [RDA-L] Reproduction

Come out another question: if OCLC control numbers are not mandatory, how can we can these fields as linking entry fields? :D Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > Hi, Steven > > Thanks. I thought that OCLC control number is

Re: [RDA-L] Reproduction

ox 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240 > (203)432-8286 steven.arak...@yale.edu > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:07 PM > *To

[RDA-L] Reproduction

mples? I would appreciate it. Many thanks, Joan -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] First issue v. latest issue - JSC Announcement

I agree. I read the announcement several times. It is very reasonable. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller < wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de> wrote: > This is great! > Many thanks to JSC for paving the wa

Re: [RDA-L] punctuation in 511 notes

Me too. For AACR2 records, I use commas between performers in the 511, and semicolons between elements in the 508 with space before and after semicolons. So far I have not realized that RDA requires any changes in punctuations. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2

Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA

Very cool! Thanks for letting us know. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Adam L. Schiff wrote: > Another aspect I have not seen mentioned, is that AACR2 style GMDs >> only had to be assigned to nonbook materials. RDA 33X must be >>

Re: [RDA-L] RDA reproduction question

into details. You may need to look at RDA Toolkit. The question is: should we treat a print-out of online born resources as publications? I think that it is a kind of personal behavior and it should be treated as production (unpublished). Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed

Re: [RDA-L] RDA reproduction question

I did look at this record this morning. It is a record for online PDF file instead of a print-out. It does include 856 field. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Arakawa, Steven wrote: > The record doesn't appear to be following the curren

Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA

the title. You do not have to click each title to see what it is. But I do not know how the search results would be displayed based on FRBR. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kathleen Lamantia < klaman...@starklibrary.org> wrote: > Yes,

Re: [RDA-L] 264 and local distributors

London :‡b Vogue 260 3 ‡3 June 1993- ‡a London :‡b Elle 260 2 ‡3 2000?-2002 ‡a New York :‡b Columbia University Press Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: > If we wanted to record a distributor (cf. RDA 21.4), and that > distributor was only respo

Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA

The major of purpose of GMD is to draw users' attention to material types, since it is an important factor for users to make a decision on selecting items. Is there any way for OPAC systems to show material types in a intuitive and friendly way based on the three 33x fields? Curious. Joan

Re: [RDA-L] "Date of publication not identified" & DtSt, Dates

AACR2 requires to record publication date and copyright date if they are different. But RDA does not have the same rule. So in AACR2 records, we see different dates in 008 field, and would not see the same dates appearing. But in RDA records we can see the same dates in 008 field. Joan Wang On

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

illustrator. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Adam L. Schiff wrote: > The LC-PCC Policy Statement for K.1 says "Use only terms from Appendix K > if supplying relationship designators in the shared LC/NACO Authority File. > Do no

Re: [RDA-L] "coloured illustrations"

; University of Washington Libraries > Box 352900 > Seattle, WA 98195-2900 > (206) 543-8409 > (206) 685-8782 fax > asch...@u.washington.edu > http://faculty.washington.edu/**~aschiff<http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff> > ~~** > &

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

e specific and concise enough (I think). Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: > If we are cataloging a work, with a preface by someone other than the > main author, RDA 20.2.1 says this is a relationship between

Re: [RDA-L] "coloured illustrations"

understanding correct? I know that I am a kind of repeating Robert’s words. But would be very happy if somebody would like to confirm it. Thanks for the help in advance. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Matthew Wise wrote: > Thanks, again,

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

a part of content of an item can be perceived through touch, I do not think that it can be called as a tactile three dimensional form, unless you give a note. In other words, the content can be fully known or learned through touch. It is related to the design purpose of the item. Thanks, Joan Wan

Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3

John I am sorry. Do you mean a collection of music or just a movie music? Also do you mean recording the relationships in both sides? Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:19 PM, JOHN C ATTIG wrote: > No, they are either > > (a) contributions to the realization of the movie,

Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3

homas Brennodorfer has mentioned four conventions in a previous email. My thought. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Gene Fieg wrote: > Let's see here. I recently subscribed to KUSC and my gift for giving was > music from movies, wh

Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3

-part relationship. It is very hard to say that a composer for a movie music can be a creator of the movie (at the work-level). Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: > John, > > I apologize for continuing to harp on this

Re: [RDA-L] Transcription of more than one publisher

I would transcribe it as: New York : Vintage Books. Vintage Books is an established corporate body name. "Vintage Departures" seems to be something else instead of the corporate body name. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Snow, Ka

Re: [RDA-L] " illustrations, some of which are colored "

As far as I know, RDA has no specification on that. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Joseph, Angelina < angelina.jos...@marquette.edu> wrote: > Do we use British or American spelling (in this case, it is color v. > colour)? >

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

Learn a lot. Thanks to Thomas. Joan Wang llinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Brenndorfer, Thomas < tbrenndor...@library.guelph.on.ca> wrote: > I think one key idea is that the relationships exist regardless of the > convention used to capture the

Re: [RDA-L] Naming works question

gt; > I can't seem to find a good relationship designator for the access > > point made for the government of Australia, based on the subtitles: > > > > Water availability in the Ovens : a report to the Australian Government > > from the CSIRO Murray-Darling

Re: [RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8

** > > Another Tome > > a novel > > by John Smith > > ** ** > > The phrase "a novel" would be considered subtitle (in the first example), > but part of the statement of responsibility (in the second), solely > depending on whether or not the w

Re: [RDA-L] Fw: What Goes into the 1xx Field?

f the expression is for the French text, it makes > sense to make the French title the main entry for the French expression, > but in Anglo-American countries Original title (Language) may be kept. > > Peter Schouten > Ingressus > > > > -- Joan Wang Cataloger --

Re: [RDA-L] Fw: What Goes into the 1xx Field?

t mean marking that one as a 100 and > the others as a 700. > > Granted, care will need to be taken if names change or move around the > title page in subsequent editions, but we already deal with that > today. > > -- > Mark K. Ehlert > Minitex > <http://www.minitex.

Re: [RDA-L] AACR2 records in OCLC

Sorry. I mean full-level AACR2 records. On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > We CMC are doing cataloging for local automated library systems. Some > systems require full-level records. So we update pre-AACR2 records that we > come across. I remember that OCLC encourages t

Re: [RDA-L] AACR2 records in OCLC

ACR2 records in OCLC >> >> >> >> I am preparing to train some of our catalogers on RDA, and I have a >> question: Are we now allowed to change a full-level AACR2 record to RDA >> and replace the master record in OCLC? I know that at one time we were not >> supposed to do this, but I am wondering whether this has changed. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jacqueline Byrd >> Head, Area Studies Cataloging Section >> Technical Services Department >> Herman B Wells Library >> Indiana University >> 1320 E. 10th St. >> Bloomington, IN 47405 >> TEL: 812-855-4310 >> FAX: 812-855-7933 >> b...@indiana.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> ** ** >> > > > > -- > Wojciech Siemaszkiewicz > New York Public Library > Library Services Center > 31-11 Thompson Ave. > Long Island City, N.Y. 11101 > (917) 229-9603 > e-mail: wojciechsiemaszkiew...@nypl.org > Please note, any opinions expressed above do not necessarily reflect those > of The New York Public Library. > > -- Joan Wang Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x209 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Examples of RDA records with field 264

^^^ > Adam L. Schiff > Principal Cataloger > University of Washington Libraries > Box 352900 > Seattle, WA 98195-2900 > (206) 543-8409 > (206) 685-8782 fax > asch...@u.washington.edu > http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff > ~~~

Re: [RDA-L] 260 vs 264 fields

, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Buzz Haughton wrote: > I just now did a search of Connexion for: > > dx:rda/bks/2013 > > and found every record I looked at, including PCC records, with the 260. > So something isn't right here. > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Joan

Re: [RDA-L] 260 vs 264 fields

ore 264 fields? > > Deborah Mills > Cataloguer > > E.P. Taylor Research Library > Art Gallery of Ontario > 317 Dundas Street West > Toronto, Ontario > Canada M5T 1G4 > > e-mail: deborah_mi...@ago.net > ph: 416-979-6660 ext. 390 > fax: 416-979-6602 > -- Joan

Re: [RDA-L] 260 and 264 field

itz > MARC Database Consultant > The MARC of Quality > www.marcofquality.com > Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 > > > -- > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wa

[RDA-L] 260 and 264 field

note under 260. Any more information or examples? Thank you very much. Joan -- Joan Wang Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x209 618.656.9401Fax

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