[RDA-L] Typo in the Toolkit

[Benjamin A Abrahamse]

Does anyone know who to contact about a typo in the RDA Toolkit?

The following example under 6.2.3.5:

ةليلو ةليل فل أ
ةليلو ةليل فلأ بات
English language form recorded as preferred title: Arabian nights

The Arabic is backwards; it should be: اللف ليلة ولىلة etc.


Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

[Heidrun Wiesenmüller]

Here's a postscript to the discussion (for those of you who still care):

I just checked the definition of "other title information" in the "ISBD 
consolidated" and found that it is similar, but not identical to the one 
given in RDA.


ISBD consolidated (2011), chapter 1.3:
"Other title information consists of a word or phrase, or a group of 
characters, appearing in conjunction with and subordinate to the title 
proper, a parallel title or titles of individual works contained in the 
resource. Other title information can include variant titles appearing 
on the same source as the title proper."


Obviously, this is where RDA borrowed the bit about "in conjunction 
with" and "subordinate to" from. But note that for ISBD, this does not 
at all mean that other title information must necessarily appear on the 
same source as the title proper. The prescribed source for all elements 
in area 1, for printed texts, is the "title page or title-page 
substitute" (chapter 1, under "Prescribed sources"). We're also told 
that information given in area 1 which is found on the resource but not 
on the prescribed source, must be put in square brackets. And that's 
all. So, according to ISBD there is no problem with other title 
information which is not found on the t.p. - it is still recorded as 
other title information.


This is another point (albeit a small one) where RDA digresses from ISBD.

Merry Christmas!

Heidrun




Heidrun Wiesenmueller wrote:

Deborah,

you're right: 2.3.2.5 doesn't fit because it only covers title 
information which is positioned on the source for the title proper.


Phew, one really must read RDA *very* carefully...!

So it seems we have to base the argument for "things which look like 
other title information but cannot be recorded as such as they are not 
on the t.p." (henceforth: "things which look like other title 
information") on the rules for variant titles in 2.3.6 alone: "A 
variant title is a title associated with a resource that differs from 
a title recorded as the title proper, a parallel title proper, other 
title information, parallel other title information, earlier title 
proper, later title proper, key title, or abbreviated title."


This applies to our case. It would belong to class a), i.e. variant 
titles "that appear on the resource itself". I think it would be a 
good idea to add an example here for a "thing which looks like other 
title information".


Yes, I also noted that the definition for other title information says 
that it "appears in conjunction with, and is subordinate to, the title 
proper of a resource". This is probably supposed to imply that it 
*must* be on the same source as the title proper, but if you think 
about it this doesn't necessarily follow.


Consider the following case:

t.p.: [Name of author] [title proper]
cover: [Name of author] [title proper] [thing that looks like other 
title information]


Here, the title proper would be taken from the t.p. But it also 
appears on the cover, and there it's certainly in conjunction with the 
thing that looks like other title information. So the definition alone 
wouldn't be enough to rule out the possibility of recording it as 
other title information. This only follows from 2.3.4.2 ("Take other 
title information from the same source as the title proper").


Now, that was really a tricky one!

By the way, as we're are talking about variant titles: I was wondering 
the other day about an example at 2.3.6.3 ("Recording variant titles"):


"Arranging and describing archives and manuscripts
Title proper recorded as: Arranging & describing archives & manuscripts"

It is, of course, obvious (and common practice) to record a version 
with "and" as a variant title. But I'm not absolutely sure under which 
of the classes a) to g) this example should be placed. I assume it 
would be a case of c) ("those assigned by an agency registering or 
preparing a description of the resource (e.g., a title assigned by a 
repository, a cataloguer's translation or transliteration of the 
title"). Would you agree?


Heidrun



Deborah Fritz said:

Heidrum,

I'm not sure that 2.3.2.5 works for this situation, because it begins by
saying: "If the* source of information for the title proper bears a 
title in

more than one form*, and if both or all of the titles are in the same
language and script, choose the title proper on the basis of the 
sequence,

layout, or typography of the titles on the source of information." The
instruction then goes on as you show below, but since this 
instruction is
referring to the "source of information for the title proper", and we 
are

discussing title information that is not on the same source as the Title
Proper, I don't think this instruction actually applies to our example.

But, based on John's explanation, I now see that the scope for Other 
Title

Information is: " information that appears in conjunction with, and is
subordinate to, the title proper of a resource." This bears out t

Re: [RDA-L] Typo in the Toolkit

[James Hennelly]

Hello Benjamin,

 

Any typos in RDA Toolkit can be sent to rdatool...@ala.org. 

 

No need to do so for this typo. I’ve got it.

 

And , of course, thanks for catching this.

 

Jamie

 

 

James Hennelly

Managing Editor

ALA Digital Reference

1-800-545-2433, ext 5051, or 312-280-5051

jhenne...@ala.org

 

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To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Typo in the Toolkit

 

Does anyone know who to contact about a typo in the RDA Toolkit?

 

The following example under 6.2.3.5:

 

ةليلو ةليل فل أ

ةليلو ةليل فلأ بات

English language form recorded as preferred title: Arabian nights

 

The Arabic is backwards; it should be: اللف ليلة ولىلة etc.

 

 

Benjamin Abrahamse

Cataloging Coordinator

Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems

MIT Libraries

617-253-7137

 

[RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Benjamin A Abrahamse]

RDA geniuses:

I know that under RDA we no longer use brackets to indicate a range of 
unnumbered pages or leaves in the physical description.  What about in notes? 
RDA 1.10.4 says, "Refer to passages in the resource, or in other sources, if 
these either support assertions made in the description" but nothing about what 
to do if you're referring to an unnumbered page.  Doing an "RDA quick search" 
for unnumbered pages brings up plenty of instructions but none (that I saw) 
regarding notes.

E.g.:

Includes bibliographic resources (pages [67]-69).

or

Includes bibliographic resources (unnumbered page 67-page 69).

???

Thanks,
--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Robert Maxwell]

RDA does not address this, but there is an LC-PCC Policy statement that 
catalogers may follow if they like and should if they're creating PCC records:

LC-PCC PS for 
1.7.1[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]
GENERAL GUIDELINES ON TRANSCRIPTION
...
Punctuation in Notes
LC practice/PCC practice:
...
3.
Square brackets. Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used 
in quoted data.

EXAMPLE
500 ##

$a"Types of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin": pages 
310-375.

Not "... pages [310]-[375]."
500 ##

$a"2090245PMA"--Page 4 of cover.

Not "... -Page [4] of cover."

This seems fine to me and I've been following it in my RDA cataloging:

Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
not
Includes bibliographic references (pages [67]-69).

In my opinion it isn't crucial in this context that the reader of the record 
know that the number "67" doesn't appear on page 67. What is crucial is that 
the reader know that there's a bibliography and that it's three pages long.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:21 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

RDA geniuses:

I know that under RDA we no longer use brackets to indicate a range of 
unnumbered pages or leaves in the physical description.  What about in notes? 
RDA 1.10.4 says, "Refer to passages in the resource, or in other sources, if 
these either support assertions made in the description" but nothing about what 
to do if you're referring to an unnumbered page.  Doing an "RDA quick search" 
for unnumbered pages brings up plenty of instructions but none (that I saw) 
regarding notes.

E.g.:

Includes bibliographic resources (pages [67]-69).

or

Includes bibliographic resources (unnumbered page 67-page 69).

???

Thanks,
--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

<>

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Benjamin A Abrahamse]

Thank you for the answer, Bob.

--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:05 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

RDA does not address this, but there is an LC-PCC Policy statement that 
catalogers may follow if they like and should if they're creating PCC records:

LC-PCC PS for 
1.7.1[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]
GENERAL GUIDELINES ON TRANSCRIPTION
...
Punctuation in Notes
LC practice/PCC practice:
...
3.
Square brackets. Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used 
in quoted data.

EXAMPLE
500 ##

$a"Types of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin": pages 
310-375.

Not "... pages [310]-[375]."
500 ##

$a"2090245PMA"--Page 4 of cover.

Not "... -Page [4] of cover."

This seems fine to me and I've been following it in my RDA cataloging:

Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
not
Includes bibliographic references (pages [67]-69).

In my opinion it isn't crucial in this context that the reader of the record 
know that the number "67" doesn't appear on page 67. What is crucial is that 
the reader know that there's a bibliography and that it's three pages long.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:21 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

RDA geniuses:

I know that under RDA we no longer use brackets to indicate a range of 
unnumbered pages or leaves in the physical description.  What about in notes? 
RDA 1.10.4 says, "Refer to passages in the resource, or in other sources, if 
these either support assertions made in the description" but nothing about what 
to do if you're referring to an unnumbered page.  Doing an "RDA quick search" 
for unnumbered pages brings up plenty of instructions but none (that I saw) 
regarding notes.

E.g.:

Includes bibliographic resources (pages [67]-69).

or

Includes bibliographic resources (unnumbered page 67-page 69).

???

Thanks,
--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

<>

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Robert Maxwell]

Sorry, at the risk of sounding obsessive-compulsive, the customary phrase used 
in most U.S. cataloging is

Includes bibliographical references (pages 67-69).
not
Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
as I wrote.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:05 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

RDA does not address this, but there is an LC-PCC Policy statement that 
catalogers may follow if they like and should if they're creating PCC records:

LC-PCC PS for 
1.7.1[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]
GENERAL GUIDELINES ON TRANSCRIPTION
...
Punctuation in Notes
LC practice/PCC practice:
...
3.
Square brackets. Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used 
in quoted data.

EXAMPLE
500 ##

$a"Types of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin": pages 
310-375.

Not "... pages [310]-[375]."
500 ##

$a"2090245PMA"--Page 4 of cover.

Not "... -Page [4] of cover."

This seems fine to me and I've been following it in my RDA cataloging:

Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
not
Includes bibliographic references (pages [67]-69).

In my opinion it isn't crucial in this context that the reader of the record 
know that the number "67" doesn't appear on page 67. What is crucial is that 
the reader know that there's a bibliography and that it's three pages long.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:21 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

RDA geniuses:

I know that under RDA we no longer use brackets to indicate a range of 
unnumbered pages or leaves in the physical description.  What about in notes? 
RDA 1.10.4 says, "Refer to passages in the resource, or in other sources, if 
these either support assertions made in the description" but nothing about what 
to do if you're referring to an unnumbered page.  Doing an "RDA quick search" 
for unnumbered pages brings up plenty of instructions but none (that I saw) 
regarding notes.

E.g.:

Includes bibliographic resources (pages [67]-69).

or

Includes bibliographic resources (unnumbered page 67-page 69).

???

Thanks,
--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

<>

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Benjamin A Abrahamse]

You were following my mistake, which I don't (or at least I hope I don't) 
normally make in catalog records.

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:25 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

Sorry, at the risk of sounding obsessive-compulsive, the customary phrase used 
in most U.S. cataloging is

Includes bibliographical references (pages 67-69).
not
Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
as I wrote.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:05 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

RDA does not address this, but there is an LC-PCC Policy statement that 
catalogers may follow if they like and should if they're creating PCC records:

LC-PCC PS for 
1.7.1[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]
GENERAL GUIDELINES ON TRANSCRIPTION
...
Punctuation in Notes
LC practice/PCC practice:
...
3.
Square brackets. Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used 
in quoted data.

EXAMPLE
500 ##

$a"Types of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin": pages 
310-375.

Not "... pages [310]-[375]."
500 ##

$a"2090245PMA"--Page 4 of cover.

Not "... -Page [4] of cover."

This seems fine to me and I've been following it in my RDA cataloging:

Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
not
Includes bibliographic references (pages [67]-69).

In my opinion it isn't crucial in this context that the reader of the record 
know that the number "67" doesn't appear on page 67. What is crucial is that 
the reader know that there's a bibliography and that it's three pages long.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:21 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

RDA geniuses:

I know that under RDA we no longer use brackets to indicate a range of 
unnumbered pages or leaves in the physical description.  What about in notes? 
RDA 1.10.4 says, "Refer to passages in the resource, or in other sources, if 
these either support assertions made in the description" but nothing about what 
to do if you're referring to an unnumbered page.  Doing an "RDA quick search" 
for unnumbered pages brings up plenty of instructions but none (that I saw) 
regarding notes.

E.g.:

Includes bibliographic resources (pages [67]-69).

or

Includes bibliographic resources (unnumbered page 67-page 69).

???

Thanks,
--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

<>

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

[J. McRee Elrod]

Heidrun said:

>So, according to ISBD there is no problem with other title 
>information which is not found on the t.p. - it is still recorded as 
>other title information.
>
>This is another point (albeit a small one) where RDA digresses from ISBD.

Where authorities differ, e.g., AACR2 vs. LCRI (e.g., reproductions),
AACR2 vs. MARC (e.g., repeating imprint), and now RDA vs. ISBD (e.g.,
inclusions, other title information), we follow the standard which
seems best suited to our clients' needs.  In this case, recording
other title information where it is expected (245$b) would seem to
best serve catalogue users.  Where it came from can be recorded in
588.

It is possible that this digression is the result of poor writing in
RDA.


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Gene Fieg]

Ugh!

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:

>  RDA geniuses:
>
> ** **
>
> I know that under RDA we no longer use brackets to indicate a range of
> unnumbered pages or leaves in the physical description.  What about in
> notes? RDA 1.10.4 says, "Refer to passages in the resource, or in other
> sources, if these either support assertions made in the description" but
> nothing about what to do if you're referring to an unnumbered page.  Doing
> an "RDA quick search" for unnumbered pages brings up plenty of instructions
> but none (that I saw) regarding notes.
>
> ** **
>
> E.g.: 
>
> ** **
>
> Includes bibliographic resources (pages [67]-69).
>
> ** **
>
> or
>
> ** **
>
> Includes bibliographic resources (unnumbered page 67-page 69).
>
> ** **
>
> ???
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Ben
>
> ** **
>
> Benjamin Abrahamse
>
> Cataloging Coordinator
>
> Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
>
> MIT Libraries
>
> 617-253-7137
>
> ** **
>



-- 
Gene Fieg
Cataloger/Serials Librarian
Claremont School of Theology
gf...@cst.edu

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or content contained in this forwarded email.  The forwarded email is that
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Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Deborah Fritz]

At the risk of sounding even more obsessive-compulsive than Bob, I offer you
this.

 

Not everything that we thought of as 'Notes' under AACR, is a 'Note' in RDA.

 

The example you show, comes under the category of 'Content'.

 

Content can either be at the Work level-applying to *every* expression of
the work; or at the Expression level-applying to every manifestation of the
expression.

 

Let's leave aside, for the moment, the question of whether we should be
including page numbers for bibliographical references, when those references
could be on different pages in different manifestations.

 

This particular type of content is covered under 7.16
  as Supplementary Content

 

The instruction on recording supplementary content says "record the nature
of that content"

 

In "Module1IntroManifestItemsSept12
 ' of the LC RDA Training documents,
they say:


Transcribed Elements vs. Recorded Elements


RDA distinguishes between transcribed elements and recorded elements.

*   For transcribed elements, generally accept the data as found on the
resource.
*   For recorded elements, the found information is often adjusted (for
example, the hyphens in an ISBN are omitted).

 

I can't find an explanation of this distinction anywhere in RDA, but it
certainly is a helpful distinction and it might be very useful if it was
added somewhere (perhaps in the glossary)

 

So, if an instruction says 'Transcribe' you will put down exactly what you
find on the source, except for the exceptions provided in a particular
instruction; this term is used in most of the instructions in chapters 2-4
for recording the attributes of manifestations and items.

But if an instruction says 'Record', you will put down what you find on the
source, but not necessarily exactly as  you found it. This term is used in
all (?) of the instructions in chapters 6-7 for recording the attributes of
works and expressions, and certain of the instructions for recording the
attributes of manifestations and items (most notably chapter 3) .

 

So, following the instruction at 7.16, we simply 'record' the supplementary
content, without the requirement to transcribe any of the data that we
include, which means we do not need to use square brackets for anything we
enter for this element.

 

As for the things that RDA still considers Notes (under 2.20
 ): 2.20.1.2 says we can take
information for notes on manifestation or item from any source, and 2.20.1.3
refers us to 1.10, which does not mention anything about needing square
brackets for any data; so it is good thing that the LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1 has
the instruction quoted by Bob (although it would be easier to find if it was
linked to 1.10)

 

Deborah

 

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  

Deborah Fritz

TMQ, Inc.

  debo...@marcofquality.com

  www.marcofquality.com

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:25 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

 

Sorry, at the risk of sounding obsessive-compulsive, the customary phrase
used in most U.S. cataloging is

 

Includes bibliographical references (pages 67-69).

not

Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).

as I wrote.

 

Bob

 

Robert L. Maxwell

Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian

Genre/Form Authorities Librarian

6728 Harold B. Lee Library

Brigham Young University

Provo, UT 84602

(801)422-5568 

 

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves
to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:05 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

 

RDA does not address this, but there is an LC-PCC Policy statement that
catalogers may follow if they like and should if they're creating PCC
records:

 

LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1
 http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png

GENERAL GUIDELINES ON TRANSCRIPTION

.

Punctuation in Notes

LC practice/PCC practice: 

.

3.

Square brackets. Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are
used in quoted data.

 

EXAMPLE


500   ##

$a"Types of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin": pages
310-375.

Not "... pages [310]-[375]."


500   ##

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Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Gene Fieg]

The English language is really going down hill when record and transcribe
can mean different things (to us as catalogers and code writers) and
general populace whom we want to use our library do not go around making
these *very fine *distinctions.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Deborah Fritz
wrote:

>  At the risk of sounding even more obsessive-compulsive than Bob, I offer
> you this.
>
> ** **
>
> Not everything that we thought of as ‘Notes’ under AACR, is a ‘Note’ in
> RDA.
>
> ** **
>
> The example you show, comes under the category of ‘Content’.
>
> ** **
>
> Content can either be at the Work level—applying to **every** expression
> of the work; or at the Expression level—applying to every manifestation of
> the expression.
>
> ** **
>
> Let’s leave aside, for the moment, the question of whether we should be
> including page numbers for bibliographical references, when those
> references could be on different pages in different manifestations.
>
> ** **
>
> This particular type of content is covered under 
> *7.16
> *as Supplementary Content
>
> ** **
>
> The instruction on recording supplementary content says “*record* the
> nature of that content”
>
> ** **
>
> In 
> “Module1IntroManifestItemsSept12’
> of the LC RDA Training documents, they say:
> Transcribed Elements vs. Recorded Elements
>
> RDA distinguishes between transcribed elements and recorded elements.
>
>- For transcribed elements, generally accept the data as found on the
>resource.
>- For recorded elements, the found information is often adjusted (for
>example, the hyphens in an ISBN are omitted).
>
> ** **
>
> I can’t find an explanation of this distinction anywhere in RDA, but it
> certainly is a helpful distinction and it might be very useful if it was
> added somewhere (perhaps in the glossary)
>
> ** **
>
> So, if an instruction says ‘Transcribe’ you will put down exactly what you
> find on the source, except for the exceptions provided in a particular
> instruction; this term is used in most of the instructions in chapters 2-4
> for recording the attributes of manifestations and items.
>
> 
>
> But if an instruction says ‘Record’, you will put down what you find on
> the source, but not necessarily exactly as  you found it. This term is used
> in all (?) of the instructions in chapters 6-7 for recording the attributes
> of works and expressions, and certain of the instructions for recording the
> attributes of manifestations and items (most notably chapter 3) .
>
> ** **
>
> So, following the instruction at 7.16, we simply ‘record’ the
> supplementary content, without the requirement to transcribe any of the
> data that we include, which means we do not need to use square brackets for
> anything we enter for this element.
>
> ** **
>
> As for the things that RDA still considers Notes (under 
> 2.20):
> 2.20.1.2 says we can take information for notes on manifestation or item
> from any source, and 2.20.1.3 refers us to 1.10, which does not mention
> anything about needing square brackets for any data; so it is good thing
> that the LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1 has the instruction quoted by Bob (although it
> would be easier to find if it was linked to 1.10)
>
> ** **
>
> Deborah
>
> ** **
>
> -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  
>
> Deborah Fritz
>
> TMQ, Inc.
>
> debo...@marcofquality.com
>
> www.marcofquality.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Robert Maxwell
> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2012 3:25 PM
>
> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?
>
>  ** **
>
> Sorry, at the risk of sounding obsessive-compulsive, the customary phrase
> used in most U.S. cataloging is
>
> ** **
>
> Includes bibliographical references (pages 67-69).
>
> not
>
> Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
>
> as I wrote.
>
> ** **
>
> Bob
>
> ** **
>
> Robert L. Maxwell
>
> Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
>
> Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
>
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>
> Brigham Young University
>
> Provo, UT 84602
>
> (801)422-5568 
>
> ** **
>
> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves
> to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA ] *On
> Behalf Of *Robert Maxwell
> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2012 1:05 PM
> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?
>
> 

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Benjamin A Abrahamse]

Thank you Deborah for the extended explanation, particularly regarding the 
distinction between "record" and "transcribe".  I'm still finding it a 
challenge to find what I'm looking for in the Toolkit.

Gene, I kind of agree with what you're saying, but I guess I'd just point out 
that library users aren't (I hope) expected to be looking at the RDA Toolkit, 
so the perhaps over-subtle distinction between "record" and "transcribe" is 
just another little bit of specialist vocabulary (jargon, even) that we 
catalogers will have to get used to, along with the FRBR entities and the rest.

--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Gene Fieg
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:00 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

The English language is really going down hill when record and transcribe can 
mean different things (to us as catalogers and code writers) and general 
populace whom we want to use our library do not go around making these very 
fine distinctions.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Deborah Fritz 
mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com>> wrote:
At the risk of sounding even more obsessive-compulsive than Bob, I offer you 
this.

Not everything that we thought of as 'Notes' under AACR, is a 'Note' in RDA.

The example you show, comes under the category of 'Content'.

Content can either be at the Work level-applying to *every* expression of the 
work; or at the Expression level-applying to every manifestation of the 
expression.

Let's leave aside, for the moment, the question of whether we should be 
including page numbers for bibliographical references, when those references 
could be on different pages in different manifestations.

This particular type of content is covered under 
7.16 as Supplementary Content

The instruction on recording supplementary content says "record the nature of 
that content"

In 
"Module1IntroManifestItemsSept12'
 of the LC RDA Training documents, they say:
Transcribed Elements vs. Recorded Elements
RDA distinguishes between transcribed elements and recorded elements.

  *   For transcribed elements, generally accept the data as found on the 
resource.
  *   For recorded elements, the found information is often adjusted (for 
example, the hyphens in an ISBN are omitted).

I can't find an explanation of this distinction anywhere in RDA, but it 
certainly is a helpful distinction and it might be very useful if it was added 
somewhere (perhaps in the glossary)

So, if an instruction says 'Transcribe' you will put down exactly what you find 
on the source, except for the exceptions provided in a particular instruction; 
this term is used in most of the instructions in chapters 2-4 for recording the 
attributes of manifestations and items.
But if an instruction says 'Record', you will put down what you find on the 
source, but not necessarily exactly as  you found it. This term is used in all 
(?) of the instructions in chapters 6-7 for recording the attributes of works 
and expressions, and certain of the instructions for recording the attributes 
of manifestations and items (most notably chapter 3) .

So, following the instruction at 7.16, we simply 'record' the supplementary 
content, without the requirement to transcribe any of the data that we include, 
which means we do not need to use square brackets for anything we enter for 
this element.

As for the things that RDA still considers Notes (under 
2.20): 2.20.1.2 says we can take 
information for notes on manifestation or item from any source, and 2.20.1.3 
refers us to 1.10, which does not mention anything about needing square 
brackets for any data; so it is good thing that the LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1 has the 
instruction quoted by Bob (although it would be easier to find if it was linked 
to 1.10)

Deborah

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Deborah Fritz
TMQ, Inc.
debo...@marcofquality.com
www.marcofquality.com

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On 
Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:25 PM

To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

Sorry, at the risk of sounding obsessive-compulsive, the customary phrase used 
in most U.S. cataloging is

Includes bibliographical references (pages 67-69).
not
Includes bibliographic references (pages 67-69).
as I wrote.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and An

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Robert Maxwell]

You're right, Deborah, RDA considers this is an attribute of the expression and 
so theoretically the page numbers aren't relevant (a point that seems to have 
been missed by the author of the example) but as a practical matter people 
apparently are interested in knowing where the bibliography is in the resource 
(a manifestation attribute) or at least how extensive the bibliography is 
(which would probably be an expression attribute). Though actually, a 
bibliography that the creator includes with a work is part of the work, not any 
particular expression, right? So perhaps we could say the supplementary content 
element combines aspects of work and expression and manifestation, and we'll 
need to resolve this before we can start making discrete ER descriptions.

This isn't the only place this occurs. Summarization of the content (7.10) is 
listed as an expression attribute but in my opinion a plot summary is in fact 
an attribute of the work. But the summarization can also be expression related. 
The examples under 7.10.1.3 include both: I'd say "Pictures the highlights of 
the play Julius Caesar ..." is work-related, as is "A brief historical account 
up to the introduction of wave mechanics", but "Episodes from the novel, read 
by Ed Begley" is related to a spoken word expression of the work. Same for the 
example about "Dune". And so forth. Similarly the contents note, which is 
well-concealed in Chapter 25 for related works, usually does describe a 
relationship at the work level, but contents notes can be at the expression 
level as well (e.g. a contents note listing the French titles in a French 
translation of an anthology).

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:53 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

At the risk of sounding even more obsessive-compulsive than Bob, I offer you 
this.

Not everything that we thought of as 'Notes' under AACR, is a 'Note' in RDA.

The example you show, comes under the category of 'Content'.

Content can either be at the Work level-applying to *every* expression of the 
work; or at the Expression level-applying to every manifestation of the 
expression.

Let's leave aside, for the moment, the question of whether we should be 
including page numbers for bibliographical references, when those references 
could be on different pages in different manifestations.

This particular type of content is covered under 
7.16 as Supplementary Content

The instruction on recording supplementary content says "record the nature of 
that content"

In 
"Module1IntroManifestItemsSept12'
 of the LC RDA Training documents, they say:
Transcribed Elements vs. Recorded Elements
RDA distinguishes between transcribed elements and recorded elements.
* For transcribed elements, generally accept the data as found on the 
resource.
* For recorded elements, the found information is often adjusted (for 
example, the hyphens in an ISBN are omitted).

I can't find an explanation of this distinction anywhere in RDA, but it 
certainly is a helpful distinction and it might be very useful if it was added 
somewhere (perhaps in the glossary)

So, if an instruction says 'Transcribe' you will put down exactly what you find 
on the source, except for the exceptions provided in a particular instruction; 
this term is used in most of the instructions in chapters 2-4 for recording the 
attributes of manifestations and items.

But if an instruction says 'Record', you will put down what you find on the 
source, but not necessarily exactly as  you found it. This term is used in all 
(?) of the instructions in chapters 6-7 for recording the attributes of works 
and expressions, and certain of the instructions for recording the attributes 
of manifestations and items (most notably chapter 3) .

So, following the instruction at 7.16, we simply 'record' the supplementary 
content, without the requirement to transcribe any of the data that we include, 
which means we do not need to use square brackets for anything we enter for 
this element.

As for the things that RDA still considers Notes (under 
2.20): 2.20.1.2 says we can take 
information for notes on manifestation or item from any source, and 2.20.1.3 
refers us to 1.10, which does not mention anything about needing square

Re: [RDA-L] Work expression distinction

[J. McRee Elrod]

Robert Maxwell said:

>RDA considers this is an attribute of the expression and so
>theoretically the page numbers aren't relevant ...  Though actually,
>a bibliography that the creator includes with a work is part of the
>work ...

Since in its current iteration, Bibframe does not make the
work/expression distinction, how would that distinction affect anyone
apart from where to look in RDA?


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__

Re: [RDA-L] Contents Notes [was Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?]

[Deborah Fritz]

Agreed, Bob, on nearly all accounts.

 

I would definitely like to see the ‘plot summary’ at the Work level, rather
than being repeated over and over for each expression, but we’ll just have
to wait and see whether that is eventually allowed under the model.

 

As for the Contents Note, although no example is provided in Chapter 26
(Related Expressions), the example in Chapter 25 (Related Work) shows as
“Contains/Contained in”

 

So, if we step through the rules again:

25.1   à 25.1.1.3 à 24.4

24.4 says we can record the relationship with a link to an ID for another
record (24.4.1) or just an authorized access point/heading (24.4.2) or a
description—either structured or unstructured (24.4.3)—if you look back at
25.1.1.3 you’ll see we are making  a structured description. 

 

Back at 24.4 we go on and see 24.5 
à which, basically, tells us which relationships can be made at which
levels. And 24.5.1.3 sends us to appendix J, beginning at J.2
  à J.2.4 shows that this particular
relationship is a Whole-Part Relationship, and J.3.4
   shows that same relationship is
possible at the Expression Level.

 

So, I would say that you *can* enter the Contents note for the French
translation with the Expression data for that translation.

 

Yes? No?

 

Deborah

 

 

 

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  

Deborah Fritz

TMQ, Inc.

  debo...@marcofquality.com

  www.marcofquality.com

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:17 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

 

You’re right, Deborah, RDA considers this is an attribute of the expression
and so theoretically the page numbers aren’t relevant (a point that seems to
have been missed by the author of the example) but as a practical matter
people apparently are interested in knowing where the bibliography is in the
resource (a manifestation attribute) or at least how extensive the
bibliography is (which would probably be an expression attribute). Though
actually, a bibliography that the creator includes with a work is part of
the work, not any particular expression, right? So perhaps we could say the
supplementary content element combines aspects of work and expression and
manifestation, and we’ll need to resolve this before we can start making
discrete ER descriptions. 

 

This isn’t the only place this occurs. Summarization of the content (7.10)
is listed as an expression attribute but in my opinion a plot summary is in
fact an attribute of the work. But the summarization can also be expression
related. The examples under 7.10.1.3 include both: I’d say “Pictures the
highlights of the play Julius Caesar …” is work-related, as is “A brief
historical account up to the introduction of wave mechanics”, but “Episodes
from the novel, read by Ed Begley” is related to a spoken word expression of
the work. Same for the example about “Dune”. And so forth. Similarly the
contents note, which is well-concealed in Chapter 25 for related works,
usually does describe a relationship at the work level, but contents notes
can be at the expression level as well (e.g. a contents note listing the
French titles in a French translation of an anthology).

 

Bob

 

Robert L. Maxwell

Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian

Genre/Form Authorities Librarian

6728 Harold B. Lee Library

Brigham Young University

Provo, UT 84602

(801)422-5568 

 

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves
to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:53 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

 

At the risk of sounding even more obsessive-compulsive than Bob, I offer you
this.

 

Not everything that we thought of as ‘Notes’ under AACR, is a ‘Note’ in RDA.

 

The example you show, comes under the category of ‘Content’.

 

Content can either be at the Work level—applying to *every* expression of
the work; or at the Expression level—applying to every manifestation of the
expression.

 

Let’s leave aside, for the moment, the question of whether we should be
including page numbers for bibliographical references, when those references
could be on different pages in different manifestations.

 

This particular type of content is covered under 7.16
  as Supplementary Content

 

The instruction on recording supplementary content says “record the nature
of that

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

[Gene Fieg]

For a research library the pagination of the bibliography can be very
important, as the the graduate student creates a bibliography for his/her
thesis.




On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Robert Maxwell wrote:

>  You’re right, Deborah, RDA considers this is an attribute of the
> expression and so theoretically the page numbers aren’t relevant (a point
> that seems to have been missed by the author of the example) but as a
> practical matter people apparently are interested in knowing where the
> bibliography is in the resource (a manifestation attribute) or at least how
> extensive the bibliography is (which would probably be an expression
> attribute). Though actually, a bibliography that the creator includes with
> a work is part of the work, not any particular expression, right? So
> perhaps we could say the supplementary content element combines aspects of
> work and expression *and* manifestation, and we’ll need to resolve this
> before we can start making discrete ER descriptions. 
>
> ** **
>
> This isn’t the only place this occurs. Summarization of the content (7.10)
> is listed as an expression attribute but in my opinion a plot summary is in
> fact an attribute of the work. But the summarization can also be expression
> related. The examples under 7.10.1.3 include both: I’d say “Pictures the
> highlights of the play Julius Caesar …” is work-related, as is “A brief
> historical account up to the introduction of wave mechanics”, but “Episodes
> from the novel, read by Ed Begley” is related to a spoken word expression
> of the work. Same for the example about “Dune”. And so forth. Similarly the
> contents note, which is well-concealed in Chapter 25 for related works,
> usually does describe a relationship at the work level, but contents notes
> can be at the expression level as well (e.g. a contents note listing the
> French titles in a French translation of an anthology).
>
> ** **
>
> Bob
>
> ** **
>
> Robert L. Maxwell
>
> Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
>
> Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
>
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>
> Brigham Young University
>
> Provo, UT 84602
>
> (801)422-5568 
>
> ** **
>
> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves
> to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Deborah Fritz
> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2012 1:53 PM
>
> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?
>
>  ** **
>
> At the risk of sounding even more obsessive-compulsive than Bob, I offer
> you this.
>
> ** **
>
> Not everything that we thought of as ‘Notes’ under AACR, is a ‘Note’ in
> RDA.
>
> ** **
>
> The example you show, comes under the category of ‘Content’.
>
> ** **
>
> Content can either be at the Work level—applying to **every** expression
> of the work; or at the Expression level—applying to every manifestation of
> the expression.
>
> ** **
>
> Let’s leave aside, for the moment, the question of whether we should be
> including page numbers for bibliographical references, when those
> references could be on different pages in different manifestations.
>
> ** **
>
> This particular type of content is covered under 
> *7.16
> *as Supplementary Content
>
> ** **
>
> The instruction on recording supplementary content says “*record* the
> nature of that content”
>
> ** **
>
> In 
> “Module1IntroManifestItemsSept12’
> of the LC RDA Training documents, they say:
> Transcribed Elements vs. Recorded Elements
>
> RDA distinguishes between transcribed elements and recorded elements.
>
> **· **For transcribed elements, generally accept the data as
> found on the resource.
>
> **· **For recorded elements, the found information is often
> adjusted (for example, the hyphens in an ISBN are omitted).
>
> ** **
>
> I can’t find an explanation of this distinction anywhere in RDA, but it
> certainly is a helpful distinction and it might be very useful if it was
> added somewhere (perhaps in the glossary)
>
> ** **
>
> So, if an instruction says ‘Transcribe’ you will put down exactly what you
> find on the source, except for the exceptions provided in a particular
> instruction; this term is used in most of the instructions in chapters 2-4
> for recording the attributes of manifestations and items.
>
> ** **
>
> But if an instruction says ‘Record’, you will put down what you find on
> the source, but not necessarily exactly as  you found it. This term is used
> in all (?) of the instructions in chapters 6-7 for recording the attributes
> of works and expressions,

Re: [RDA-L] Typo in the Toolkit

[Adam L. Schiff]

You use the feedback mechanism in Toolkit to report these.

^^
Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
(206) 543-8409
(206) 685-8782 fax
asch...@u.washington.edu
http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
~~

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:


Does anyone know who to contact about a typo in the RDA Toolkit?

The following example under 6.2.3.5:

?  ?? ?
?  ??? ???
English language form recorded as preferred title: Arabian nights

The Arabic is backwards; it should be:   ? etc.


Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137