Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread Starlight via RE-wrenches
To all techies, what if a bleeder resister, similar to what is used on a capacitor, was in parallel with the PV strings or array? That should pull down any high voltage from a low illuminance light source. Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On Mar 8, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Darryl Thayer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
Hello the answer is yes. On a job several years ago to finish I worked after dark. It was a full moon, and a street light was nearby I got bit from a 500 Voc module string. I am sure I did not have 500 V but it only takes 20 ma. To be deadly. I did not get my volt ohm meter out but I should

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread bob--- via RE-wrenches
Well, turns out there might actually be something to bright scene lighting enabling some power output during a fire at night. Here is one paper from San Francisco. http://ufsw.org/pdfs/photovoltaic_systems.pdf However, firefighters have particular safeguards they should follow day or

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread bob--- via RE-wrenches
I believe that kind of  illumination  could certainly put out some voltage but wouldn't have much, if any, current or power behind it.  But could shock someone. Any dangerous energy would have to come from a capacitor being charged up that SHOULD be disconnected through the rapid shutdown

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches
They can generate enough illumination to have the module(s) reach ~ Voc. On 3/8/2023 10:31 AM, Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches wrote: Hi wrenches, In speaking to local firefighters last year, I had a question that stumped me.  At night, will the light from the flames or the fire fighters'

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread Lloyd Hoffstatter via RE-wrenches
kef> From: RE-wrenches on behalf of Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 10:31:24 AM To: RE-wrenches Cc: Kristopher Schmid Subject: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters Hi wrenches, In speaking to local firefighters last year, I had a question that stumped me. At

[RE-wrenches] Fire fighters

2023-03-08 Thread Kristopher Schmid via RE-wrenches
Hi wrenches, In speaking to local firefighters last year, I had a question that stumped me. At night, will the light from the flames or the fire fighters' flood lights energize the array to a dangerous potential? Any light you can shed (pun intended) would be most welcome. Shine On! Kris

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-22 Thread dan
------- Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class From: Charles Picard <cpic...@solarcity.com> Date: Wed, September 21, 2016 9:39 am To: "d...@foxfire-energy.com" <d...@foxfire-energy.com> Cc: "re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-21 Thread Michael Welch
in an emergency situation - using equipment readily available. IMHO 20VDC is much preferable to 480VDC. Thank You. db  Dan Brown Foxfire Energy Corp. Renewable Energy Systems (802)-483-2564 www.Foxfire-Energy.com NABCEP #092907-44 Original Message Subject: Re: [R

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-21 Thread Dan Fink
Hi charles, all.yes, foam is both not opaque enough and slides off. Blue tarps / thin tarps are not eitheronly thick or canvas worksand what if the wind blows it off during the response? I recommend the irec / iaff Web class highly, it uses all the new UL data and It covers nozzles

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-21 Thread Dan Fink
is much preferable to 480VDC. > > Thank You. db > > > > Dan Brown > Foxfire Energy Corp. > Renewable Energy Systems > (802)-483-2564 > www.Foxfire-Energy.com > NABCEP #092907-44 > > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches]

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-21 Thread Charles Picard
Hi Dan, I'll try to stop short of playing armchair firefighter here, and stick to what legitimate data is available. I follow most of the prominent Firefighter trade rags, and while there is some good technical content, there are also a fair amount of opinion pieces. The UL study linked

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-20 Thread dan
ire Energy Corp.Renewable Energy Systems(802)-483-2564www.Foxfire-Energy.comNABCEP #092907-44 Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class From: Charles Picard <cpic...@solarcity.com> Date: Tue, September 20, 2016 1:27 pm To: "palumbo1...@gmail.com"

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-20 Thread Charles Picard
Hi Dave, These are some great questions you're asking, and you've prompted some interesting responses. I've been partnered up with a career firefighter for the past 2yrs teaching this subject, and have a few thoughts for you: Review the NFPA's recommended best practices for interactions with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-20 Thread Glenn Burt
enches'" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class Thanks Dan, Thanks for these good points and good ideas. Of course safety of the responders/helpers is #1, thanks for the reminder. I have not heard about spraying foam on the array to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-20 Thread Dave Palumbo
: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class Hey Dave, I'm a retired level 2 Fire Fighter and EMT. I've been invited to address several EMS departments and State Electrical Classes about Solar / Off Grid emergencies. All departments are required to re certify annually in subjects like CPR

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-20 Thread dan
see a truck driver running away from a crash.. keep up with them'.Hope this helps. dbDan BrownFoxfire Energy Corp.Renewable Energy Systems(802)-483-2564www.Foxfire-Energy.comNABCEP #092907-44 Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class From: "Dave Pa

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-20 Thread Glenn Burt
, and they probably already have some training in that regard. Good luck! Glenn Burt -Original Message- From: "Dave Palumbo" <palumbo1...@gmail.com> Sent: ‎9/‎19/‎2016 22:13 To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wren

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, I will be presenting a class on "Solar Home Fire Fighter Safety" to our local volunteer fire department this coming weekend. I will tour them around my off grid neighborhood so that we can review various PV, micro-hydro, different inverters and battery systems, various back-up

[RE-wrenches] Fire Fighters

2010-12-14 Thread Jesse Dahl
Hello, I was reading about fire fighters and their interactions with PV in the last issue of solar pro. Does anyone have experience with basic fire fighter PV training? I would like to try it with my local departments. Jesse Sent from my iPad!!!

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2010-12-14 Thread Dan Fink
Hello Jesse; I wrote that article for Solar Pro. The official bottom line curriculum for firefighters is available by free download from CalFire here: http://osfm.fire.ca.gov/training/photovoltaics.php I do teach an IREC/ISPQ accredited class on the topic, to teach professional PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire Fighters

2010-12-14 Thread Jesse Dahl
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:35 PM To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Fire Fighters Hello, I was reading about fire fighters and their interactions with PV in the last issue of solar pro. Does anyone have experience with basic fire fighter PV training? I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire Fighters

2010-12-14 Thread frenergy
-284-7849/6544 fax Solar powered since 1982 - Original Message - From: Dan Fink dan...@hughes.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire Fighters Andrew; I think that in the future, the solution