Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread MCH
It was clearly the Kenwood TH-41 model. They had different colored rings around the top of the antenna for the different bands. UHF was green. Odds are someone in the prop department was a ham and thought they could find a use for the radios once the film was done. Or, maybe they purchased

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread MCH
Wrong. GMRS is Class A CB (FCC designation) while the 27 MHz band is Class D CB. I don't recall what classes B and C were offhand. FRS didn't exist until recently and has never carried an official CB label even though it too is under Part 95. MURS is even more recent. Both Class A and Class D

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Class B was something on UHF, and class C was 27 MHz remote control. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:09:19 AM PST From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies Wrong. GMRS is

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread lenaw12
Why pay a bench tech when you can sell a new radio, with the FCC doing the marketing for you? Besides...do shops even do board level repairs any more? That ought to open a can of worms LW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n...@... wrote: At 1/16/2009 13:38, you wrote: I absolutely

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB

2009-01-17 Thread Ben
Does anyone have any info on the old class B CB? I'm thinking it was a single simplex channel on 465.000 and 5 watts. May have been another frequency. Could have been AM too. I remember seeing an old lunchbox type radio for this service at a flea market once. I'm betting they are pretty rare

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread Gordon 'Yeti'
Class B was the old day equivalent of FRS, Class C is the Class D 'alpha' channels. With regard to Die Hard 2 - No wonder the military didn't have much luck decoding the scrambled signals - the handies are 440Mhz FM, and the base rig they have is tuned to the MGM segment of 2 metres! JOHN

[Repeater-Builder] Available Old PL Reeds

2009-01-17 Thread Com/Rad Inc
_._,___ Jan 17 2009 Anyone out there have an interest/requirement for old Motorola PL Reeds? Type TU217 and TU333 Just curious - fourn a cache of these relics in our backroom - prior to eBay we are revealing this to the group 73 Ed K9QPJ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB

2009-01-17 Thread Captainlance
yes, the radio you saw was a Vocaline... about 5 watts input. Class B was short lived to be sure, it never gained much use as there was almost no supply of usable equipment.Class A was different, 50 watts, FM, using commercial equipment, GE, Motorola, RCA, LINK, etc. many taxi companies took

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB

2009-01-17 Thread Joe
You probably saw a Vocaline Company of America, JRC-400, Citizens Radio Class B transceiver. These were made many years ago in Old Saybrook, Ct close to where I now live. A couple of hams in this area used to work there. They were an AM modulation oscillator (with some FM too) and a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
They are. I am one that says there won't be a huge flood of radios hitting the surplus market. Everything sold in the past 10 (or more) years has been narrow band capable right out of the box. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB

2009-01-17 Thread Joe
Forgot to include a link to a photo of one, here it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vocaline-Radio-Transceiver-AM-Telephone-Ham-radio_W0QQitemZ280231790111QQihZ018QQcategoryZ4674QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 73, Joe, K1ike Joe wrote: You probably saw a Vocaline

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Western Radio Model 90

2009-01-17 Thread ve3ext
I think I have these!!! Are they VHF ?? S Also., give me model numbers of the various boards I have a wr repeater in service here., fairly easy to work on Let me know ? Jerry VE3 EXT

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-17 Thread Jim Brown
I have recently moved a GE Mastr Exec II radio from the 47 mHz area up into six meters.  (The MVP and the Exec use the same exciter).  I'll admit that the exciter is hard to tune, but it will work without any modification.  My technique is to set the frequency of a receiver to each multiplier

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lunch Box Radio

2009-01-17 Thread Radio Guy
Thanks for the info, that is encouragement. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Jim Brown w5...@yahoo.com wrote: I have recently moved a GE Mastr Exec II radio from the 47 mHz area up into six meters. (The MVP and the Exec use the same exciter). I'll admit that the exciter is hard to tune,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB

2009-01-17 Thread MCH
Were they on 465.000 MHz, and what that the only channel? Joe M. Joe wrote: You probably saw a Vocaline Company of America, JRC-400, Citizens Radio Class B transceiver. These were made many years ago in Old Saybrook, Ct close to where I now live. A couple of hams in this area used to work

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MVP/Exec II to 6-meters

2009-01-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've never found them difficult to tune at all. I have, however, needed to change some caps to get them to go where I needed them. Sometimes they will go without modifications, not always. If you cannot get a true peak when tuning a stage, a cap needs changed. A true peak is one that while

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Class 'B' CB

2009-01-17 Thread Joe
Yes, only on 465Mhz with a limit of 5 watts. You have to remember that this was a modulated oscillator transmitter with a super regenerative receiver. When I say 465Mhz I really mean somewhere around 465Mhz. The transmitter drifted terribly, but the super regenerative receivers were very

[Repeater-Builder] The Dual Program Cable Cluster (train wreck)

2009-01-17 Thread skipp025
Re: The Dual Program Cable Cluster (train wreck) Dual jack/plug radio programming cables should now be classified in the same category as small airplanes with retractable landing gear. Those who haven't landed with the gear up... will eventually land with their gear up. It's just a matter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread w7trh
Hi Gang, Don't forget the Part 15 channels on 49 mHz. There were at least (3). Power limit was 100 mw. I still have a few Sears walkie-talkies of that type (late 70's) I think they are AM? Always thought about upping power(-: When Skip was in it was an interesting band. The channels were

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Vocaline UHF Radios (and the Andy Griffith TV Show)

2009-01-17 Thread skipp025
Re: Vocaline UHF Radios Oh boy... I had a pair of the Vocaline Radios and they really were/are a popcorn fart (not even worth the trouble). UHF and I think I remember the receivers were possibly regen type with almost no real selectivity. Not even very stable and did suffer from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread Joe
Someone supposedly converted 2 of these radios into a repeater years ago. Hooked up the audio leads and swapped transmit crystals so they were on 2 different freqs. They did the same in the HT's that they talked to it with. Early budding hams, I guess. Joe w7...@comcast.net wrote: Hi

[Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater?

2009-01-17 Thread skipp025
Re: True Value Software [Hardware](controller) in your repeater? Never heard of the True Value Software TVS-701 Repeater Controller before. Any of you folks got (John Madden) one in a box of yours? True Value software TVS 701 Repeater Controller Ebay Item number: 290289330903 your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread w7trh
Hello Group, I have a couple of the Silver Grill E.F. Johnson Business Band tube type radios from the 60's. They are AM, and about 8 watts out. They are a Twin to the CB set Johnson produced around the same time. Also don't forget about Sonar brand. They produced a low band business

Re: [Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater?

2009-01-17 Thread Bob M.
Better download the documentation while it's still there. Seems like True Value became Tiny Vital. The products is NLA and not supported. I'd think that NHRC has something comparable. http://www.tinyvital.com/TVS/index.htm Bob M. == --- On Sat, 1/17/09, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote:

[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood tkr-850 and tkr-750

2009-01-17 Thread John Transue
TKR-850 experts, To save a trip out to the repeater site, could you answer the following question for me? Thanks. On the TKR-850, by default one of the PF (programmable function) keys is set to repeat disable/enable. I am using the 850 as a full time repeater. If that PF key is pushed, does the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I had one of the Sonar FM radios that I bought for $20 already crystalled up on 29.6 MHz in about 1985. I ran if for a base station for a couple years, the squelch action was not the best. Eventually, I upgraded to a Mocom 70 base! -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 17 Jan 2009

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread w7trh
Hello Group, Isn't it true that the radio must be on the List of type excepted units? I have a brochure for the Midland syn1 radio that says it is capable of the 12.5 kHz splits and Narrow dev. (2.5kHz). I was told that the Syn1 was NOT on the list of type excepted radios. What about the Moto

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I do not have the answer regarding type acceptance. I suggest you ask that person to back up their statement. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: w7...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread Mike Dietrich
As long as you turn the modulation down to 2.5kc dev max, that meets the narrowband requirements. The only reason for changing the I.F. filters is to re-gain the amount of recovered audio out the speaker that you had before. Or you can just turn up the volume on the receiver. If you cahnge the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 Mhz Issue

2009-01-17 Thread Tony Faiola
Your call for help has been received. I looked and found two complete Series 8000 Radio/Microwave Links and MUX equipment manuals (big thick) plus additional separate manuals for 8200 Power supplies, 8110 RF Receiver,8010 RF transmitter, 8005/8006 Mini-Rack, 800Radio/Mux,8500 MUX modem,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Vocaline UHF Radios (and the Andy Griffith TV Show)

2009-01-17 Thread George Csahanin
GAWD!!I had a pair of these MANY years ago, late 60's as I recall. What garbage. REgen receive, same osc for transmit, freq adjusted by bending two copper plates toward or away from each other. As for TV shows, saw them also in Hogan's Heros being used as the listening device when bugging

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread William E. Janes
A couple of points here if I may .. 1) The narrowbanding kit sold by Communications Specialists will narrow the receiver bandwidth, but will not take into account modifications needed in the discriminator to deliver full rated audio output. Most later models use a discriminator IC that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater?

2009-01-17 Thread Joe
Looks like it might be this: http://www.tinyvital.com/tvs701.htm 73, Joe, K1ike skipp025 wrote: Re: True Value Software [Hardware](controller) in your repeater?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread w7trh
You said it all William! Somewhere I had a link to the list of radios that were authorized to operate NB. I will attempt to find it and put on the list. It is going to be interesting, and maybe expensive, although our FD. purchased some narrow/wide band commercial ICOM mobile units (8 ch.). The

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Starpoint - Good on 2.4G??

2009-01-17 Thread Scott Zimmerman
In the past few weeks, I have literally fell into some 2.x GHz Motorola StarPoint gear; complete with antennas and feedline. This has prompted my feeble mind to ask some questions: 1. Can this stuff be up-banded to 2.4GHz? If so, does anyone have a lead as to who has done it and how. 2. If it

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread Peter Summerhawk
Means that your radios on the system have to be reprogrammed for narrow band as well. Wide band radios and narrow band repeaters don't always seem to play nice with each other for some reason. Had that problem here with our business band repeater being narrow band and the handhelds being wide.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread MCH
I would think it would be treated the same as the change to NBFM in the 70s (60s?) - the radios are lowered in deviation to meet the new specs and everyone is happy. (until you get a close adjacent neighbor) I think there are still TODAY radios in use that say Adjusted to NBFM +/- 5 kHz

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread MCH
Threaded... William E. Janes wrote: Just turning down the deviation circuitry to 2.5 kHz will reduce the amount of deviation, but not the bandwidth of the emission overall. Turning down the deviation is simply not a legal option. Huh? NBFM BW = (2x5)+(2x3)=16 kHz BW SNFM BW =

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Radios and Coms in TV and Movies

2009-01-17 Thread George Henry
I have several of the Sonar VHF high band mobiles tucked away somewhere... 4 channel, push-button selected, used standard Radio Shack scanner crystals for RX. Crappy speakers George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: w7...@comcast.net To:

[Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Does anybody know if one can get a DOS program to run on Windows XP. Mike K7PFJ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread MCH
Dual boot is the only way I know of... Joe M. Mike Mullarkey wrote: Does anybody know if one can get a DOS program to run on Windows XP. Mike K7PFJ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread MCH
BTW, if this is for Motorola programming, XP does not allow direct access to the serial port. Joe M. Mike Mullarkey wrote: Does anybody know if one can get a DOS program to run on Windows XP. Mike K7PFJ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread Barry
If you want access to any ports it's not doable . you need to boot to dos or xp or one of the cd's that allows you to do so To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: k7...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:59:46 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:59 PM 1/17/2009, Mike Mullarkey wrote: Does anybody know if one can get a DOS program to run on Windows XP. If it's a RSS program, it won't run inside a DOS window from XP and you need to boot into DOS at powerup (make a bootable CD to do this). Otherwise if the program you want

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:59 PM 1/17/2009, Mike Mullarkey wrote: just click START RUN and at the C:/ prompt, do what you need. ---Ooops.. that should be START RUN, then type the word command in the text field and hit ENTER. That will open up a DOS shell for you Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread AJ
However... As the previous replies have stated, while you may be able to open and run the DOS application in XP, you won't be able to do anything with regards to controlling external devices via serial, such as a radio in the case of RSS... XP has some rather nasty issues with typing the serial

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread no6b
At 1/17/2009 15:54, you wrote: There is a second caveat to turning down the deviation since a lot of transmitters encode either digital or tone squelch injected without components (pots) allowing adjustment of the level, the transmitter will be sending those at +\- 600-800 Hz before

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread Nate Duehr
On Jan 17, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Ken Arck wrote: At 07:59 PM 1/17/2009, Mike Mullarkey wrote: just click START RUN and at the C:/ prompt, do what you need. ---Ooops.. that should be START RUN, then type the word command in the text field and hit ENTER. That will open up a DOS shell for you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I purchased a used MSF 5000 UHF repeater from a Motorola shop and they installed the narrow band filters and set it up for a nb commercial channel for me and it works great. It does not deviate past 2.5, receives well and the ctcss noise is not noticeable on the stations. Having programmed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread kh6jkg
Thanks for this Off Topic. In the days of 386's, 486's, etc. desktops notebooks had RS-232c ports. ? What can be done with the XP notebooks, like mine, with no Db-9, RS-232c ports, all that is available is USB ports? I am hoping to get an old dest top with Db-9, RS-232c working with my old

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic

2009-01-17 Thread Nate Duehr
On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:17 PM, kh6...@netscape.net wrote: Thanks for this Off Topic. In the days of 386's, 486's, etc. desktops notebooks had RS-232c ports. You can still get motherboards with serial and parallel ports, but most mass market machines don't have them anymore. What can be