Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS, Phelps Dodge UHF Duplexer

2009-11-24 Thread Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis
swap you an LPB S15A 8ch Mono Broadcast Mixer and Spare Parts / manual for the Duplexer Tuned and Ready to Go on my pair :) - Original Message - From: K5IN k...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:22 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] R1225 Question

2009-11-24 Thread Oz, in DFW
The two I own and almost every other one I have seen power up on channel one. I've seen one version of the RSS (that may have been hacked) that lets you select the power on default channel. N1OZ Joe wrote: Thanks to the two of you. My problem is that this particular R1225 is programmed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Mastr II PA - SLOW

2009-11-24 Thread Oz, in DFW
The power control pots on these are notorious for going flakey. Chuck Kelsey wrote: In addition to checking the solder joints on the transistors, check the connection between the PA output and the harmonic filter. This is another prone intermittent point. Chuck WB2EDV - Original

[Repeater-Builder] Re: [GE Mastr II] MASTER II TO RC-210

2009-11-24 Thread Kevin Custer
W8YSU wrote: Does anyone on this list have pictures or scematic of a VHF Master II hooked up to an ARCOM RC-210? We are starting to work on one for our Club Repeater and I am looking for some examples for reference. Dean, Station or converted mobile? Did you look here? www.mastr2.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS, Phelps Dodge UHF Duplexer

2009-11-24 Thread K5IN
sri, looking for cash deal. Thanks - Original Message - From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS, Phelps Dodge UHF Duplexer swap you an LPB S15A 8ch Mono Broadcast

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Mastr II PA - SLOW

2009-11-24 Thread Jeff DePolo
After letting it cool, I key'd it up again. It immediately went up to only 20 watts, then after about 30 seconds it hit 75 watts and finally after close to a minute and a half, it hit 100 watts. I let it cool again, and same thing. This appears to be the way this amp is as nothing I can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Mastr II PA - SLOW

2009-11-24 Thread Adam Feuer
Jeff, Thanks for the thought which is something I did not check. (nor do I know how at the moment, I'll have to find the book) I did check the obvious solder connections that usually fail and even re-flowed them. The POT seems ok as when the amp finally does reach full power, the POT varies

[Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Vernon Densler
I have been in a big discussion with the guys on my boat list about the right coax for running up the mast for VHF marine radio. Keeping in mind that we are talking about a 70' or so run going up the center of an aluminum mast, in a salt water environment, and the radio is limited to 25 watts.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Chris Robinson
Not having been in the situation to have to rely on the radio while out enjoying the water, I would still use the best I could get. I dont know the turn radius of LMR 400 or even 600 but I would seriously consider something along these lines and avoid all 8x cable. Being locked in to the power

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Vernon Densler
My experience with LMR 400 is that even with the factory connectors it leaks water like crazy. Wouldn't want to have that happen in the salt air. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Robinson Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread WA Brown
From everything I've seen, tinned wire is recommended. WA Brown - Original Message - From: Vernon Densler To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use I have been in a big

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:17 AM 11/24/2009, Vernon Densler wrote: I have been in a big discussion with the guys on my boat list about the right coax for running up the mast for VHF marine radio. Keeping in mind that we are talking about a 70' or so run going up the center of an aluminum mast, in a salt water

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread n3dab
I would Suggest looking at either aandrew FSJx-50 or LMR 3/8 or 1/2 heliax type cable (100% solid shield) and if available a direct burial or underground type jacket for additional water infiltration protection. Go the the home pages or either mfg. to get full specs and min. bend radius. Doug

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Eric Lowell
The only issue I would have with Heliax is the possiblity of cracked and broken solid conductors due to vibration and repeated flexing. If I were the vessel owner, I'd use a good grade (Belden or equivalent) of RG-8 (X if you want). There are not a lot of terrain features out there. I'd think

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Tim Herron
Looking at the list below, you can see that the 1/4 and 1/2 Superflex Heliax have a very modest loss at VHF frequencies. I would use the 1/4 superflex. It is very accomodating to bends, although I know of no coax that is completly salt water-salt air resistant. I think that part of your

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Vernon Densler
But how far can you get on the less than 9 watts you will have left after using a cable with that much loss? From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lowell Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:39 PM To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Gary Schafer
You certainly don't want just any old coax. You for sure don't want any type of hard line run up the mast as the flexing will break the center conductor or outer conductor. You want to have a stranded cable such as RG8 type. Also don't use any type of foam dielectric type cable on a boat as the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Belden lists various cables approved for marine use here: http://www.belden.com/pdfs/Prodbull/NP236.pdf Chuck WB2EDV

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread John
Tim Herron wrote: Oh yeah, get the highest gain antenna you can get! That's not a good idea. On a power boat yes, but a sailboat will usually be listing when underway and with a high gain antenna flattening the pattern you could be dumping the power into the sky or ocean. If you go

Re: [Repeater-Builder] setting up a repeater for dispatch

2009-11-24 Thread wd8chl
Jed Barton wrote: Hey guys, Alright, got an interesting one ehre. I've got a fire department who has an existing repeater on the air. They want to have their dispatchers actually dispatching through the internet, sending tones, ETC. I know it can be done, the question is how? This is a

[Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I know it's been done a lot, but I have no experience in having two repeaters simulcasting. Here's the info: There is an existing repeater that has some coverage issues in a neighboring area. The folks in that area, while still wanting to be on the same output frequency, will put a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ritron vhf repeater plus model rr150

2009-11-24 Thread wd8chl
ve3...@primus.ca wrote: this is the silver box, note it is vhf, not uhf. My question in the absence of any documentation is--what is the minimum spacing, in order to use the internal duplexer. Presently it's 2.7 mhzs between the tx/rx !! If anyone has a manual, I will gladly pay to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's

2009-11-24 Thread Bill
I hope you copy and paste, at least part of your posting to qrz and part of your book some day you will finish. Your story parallels mine in many ways, I wish we could sit down some where for a beer all one afternoon, and I don't drink. I too am looking for financially rewarding

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's

2009-11-24 Thread Bill
You and I need to talk (I type too slow). I too have wanted a spectra on 220 mhz. Had not thought about the 1 pf cap trick. . bill . jawjabillatl---bellsouth---net . . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mel Swanberg wa6...@... wrote: Well, maybe I've actually managed to do something

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Kevin Custer
Hi Folks, I know it's been done a lot, but I have no experience in having two repeaters simulcasting. Here's the info: There is an existing repeater that has some coverage issues in a neighboring area. The folks in that area, while still wanting to be on the same output frequency, will put

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's

2009-11-24 Thread n4rqy
I was hoping to get info on putting a gm300 to the 220 mhz band so that I can take advantage of the channel steering capabilities of that radio as a remote base. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Bill jawjabill...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread cruising7388
Mil-spec RG-213 (not bogus RG 213 type cables) are well suited for this application. The losses are not significant for what is, for practical purposes, a line of sight application. The jacket is well suited for resistance to ocean salts and UV. It's available at reasonable cost. What

[Repeater-Builder] 2 Zetron Model 38s for Trade

2009-11-24 Thread Cort Buffington
Folks, I have a pair of Zetron Model 38 controllers -- one says 38A on the box, but is clearly a 38 (no DPL). I would consider them in good condition and cosmetically fair condition. I would like to trade both of them for a single 38A or 38Max. Please contact me off-list if you're interested.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, tahrens301 wrote: There is an existing repeater that has some coverage issues in a neighboring area. The folks in that area, while still wanting to be on the same output frequency, will put a 2nd repeater (with a different rx PL tone) up on a hill. This isn't

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Barry
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: ah...@ah6le.net Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:08:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use At 08:17 AM 11/24/2009, Vernon Densler wrote: I have been in a big discussion with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Tim Ahrens
Hi Kris, But when the dispatcher was sending tones to both repeaters, isn't that simulcasting? That would be the only time that I could see any kind of issue, as the mobile/portable units wouldn't be transmitting on both at the same time. Thanks, Tim

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tim Ahrens wrote: But when the dispatcher was sending tones to both repeaters, isn't that simulcasting? That would be the only time that I could see any kind of issue, as the mobile/portable units wouldn't be transmitting on both at the same time. How is it that the

[Repeater-Builder] Spectra Audio Popping after Capacitor replacement

2009-11-24 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I've been working on these Spectras, and so far, the capacitors have done the trick. But on this last radio, the speaker pops whenever the audio path is open (unsquelched, signal, mode change, etc). Just curious if there's something I've missed. Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Douglas
All of these ideas (and they are just ideas, with some experience put behind it) have merit. Just to think of the bigger picture, you may want to have a spare antenna somewhere on the boat so that if you are de-masted, you can still communicate. Your range will suffer only a bit if you still

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Tim Ahrens
Here in the county, all the fire repeaters have the same output frequency pl tone, but different input pl tones. They use separate radios for each area (E, W, etc). What they would do in our case would be to allocate (on their console) a different radio for the additional repeater. I believe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tim Ahrens wrote: Here in the county, all the fire repeaters have the same output frequency pl tone, but different input pl tones. They use separate radios for each area (E, W, etc). What they would do in our case would be to allocate (on their console) a different

Re: [Repeater-Builder] setting up a repeater for dispatch

2009-11-24 Thread Nate Duehr
Time for my favorite rant -- pardon me for a moment: The more important point for putting Public Safety on IP networks (of any sort) is that the IP link has MONITORING built in. Most (even so-called Public Safety ready) IP linking systems DO NOT have ANY way to notify the dispatcher that their

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Jason
Afternoon Tim, What you are describing is a Fire dispatch setup where one geographic area is not getting the tones to set off pagers, poor reception, and the like, while another area is doing fine. What you are inquiring is a black and white area with Public Safety. Placing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Tim Ahrens
Hi Kris, Thanks for the additional information. I've been conversing with Milt off line, and I think the only way this will work will be for them to sequentially dispatch the two different departments. First on on repeater #1, and then on #2. Their thought was to use two different radios with

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Tim Ahrens
Hi Jason/Milt/Bill/Kris, Thanks for all the info ammunition. Since I take care of the westernmost radio stuff, it should be enough to convince them to sequentially page the departments not screw up what we already have. Think it'll be a while, as they have to get their coordination stuff

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Vernon Densler
I have an emergency antenna and wouldn't go anywhere without it. Also have a hand held. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread MCH
Most likely they dispatch in sequence - over one repeater than over the other. Joe M. Kris Kirby wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tim Ahrens wrote: But when the dispatcher was sending tones to both repeaters, isn't that simulcasting? That would be the only time that I could see any kind of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] setting up a repeater for dispatch

2009-11-24 Thread Chris Quirk
Not sure why people think voice over IP is cheap, it is less costly but cheap ? 100% monitoring of line quality, multiple T 1s with different carriers and still support a micro wave link to back all this up. When the T1 (s)goes down and Micro is up we lose significant capacity on the system

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Cheap: Canadian Marconi Repeater.

2009-11-24 Thread va...@rogers.com
I'll be in probably next Tuesday afternoon, Tedd... Regards, Keith VA3QF CAMBRIDGE, ON EN93tj --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tedd Doda la...@... wrote: Hi Guys: Does anyone close to Kitchener-Waterloo Ontario have a use for a VHF repeater? This is just the cabinet, and it comes

[Repeater-Builder] For Sale

2009-11-24 Thread Randy
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Oz, in DFW
One fellow down the reply list sent you the Belden marine pamphlet, give that man a prize. The short answer is the biggest **flexible** cable you can manage. But there are other considerations just as important; 1) Supporting the weight of cable. Clamp it at the top and bottom. Don't expect

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread Ian Wells
Hi guys .We have aprox 8 separate repeaters with links back to a central site allowing every thing to be broadcasted over all sites at the same time When one repeater feeds into another and then onto another then delay problems come into the picture. Thank You ,Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio,

[Repeater-Builder] 900mhz MASTR II Parts

2009-11-24 Thread n0fpe
Ok I am going to start parting out the 3 900mhz MASTR II repeaters I have. I will have high power PA's 24volt ya know transmitters, receivers, GETC controllers who wants these?. I think I even have the master ocsillator in the pile someplace. I have the 24 volt power supplies but there is no

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread wb6dgn
But how far can you get on the less than 9 watts you will have left after using a cable with that much loss? Pretty darn far! In the old days, I used to mess with the old packset (pre handheld) radios that were available at the time. I had one GE, pre PortaMobil that was rated at 250

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Spectra Audio Popping after Capacitor replacement

2009-11-24 Thread David Murman
Had the same problem with a 900 mhz Spectra. The hear clear board was the problem. Changed it and the popping noise went away. David -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tahrens301 Sent: Tuesday, November

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Vern, I suggest using some of the practices I employed in several control and repeater stations I have installed on the Pacific Coast, subject to corrosive salt air and runoff. First off, use genuine Military Specification RG-214/U silver-plated coaxial cable, and not any ersatz cable that has

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Vernon Densler
We are talking large sailboats going off shore and staying in places with little to no spare supplies. This all started with a friend that is in the Caribbean and has had both of his radios fail and can't even make it to talk to the marina's and bridges. Turns out that one of the radio problems

[Repeater-Builder] WTB: 220 MHz pass cavity

2009-11-24 Thread no6b
Anyone got one they want to get rid of? Please reply directly to no6b at no6b dot com. Thanks. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread john gleaton
We page 17 volunteer fire departments on UHF through four repeaters with 17 different tones, all four repeaters use the same frequency, just different input pl's. The problem comes whenever any two repeaters is keyed at the same time. if they would use two different frequencies, you could easily

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Quantar Vs Quantro

2009-11-24 Thread Ham-Radio
Chris, Fred could not have said it better. He is 100% correct. I have worked on both, and I must say the Quantro is easier to work on. Charles Miller -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Bray Sent:

[Repeater-Builder] 2010 VoIP Conference April 10 Las Vegas Circus-Circus

2009-11-24 Thread Kent Johnson
Arrangement have been made for the 8 th Annual 2010 VoIP Conference April 10 at Circus-Circus in Las Vegas, NV. This the weekend NAB is gearing up. See http://www.narri.org/voip_conference.html and follow the links to information and registration form. RSVP, please. All are welcome to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use

2009-11-24 Thread Yahoo
CNT-400-DB cable RF Industries crimp connectors installed properly Self vulcanizing seal + good vinyl tape Cable strain relief 1.5db loss per 100' @ VHF Tight bend radius Jeff From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vernon

Re: [Repeater-Builder] setting up a repeater for dispatch

2009-11-24 Thread john gleaton
do they want to have a back up to their main dispatch, as in a way to page out as a back up to a conventional system? If so, warning systems ( http://www.warningsystems.com/products.htm) has some products that allow you to do text to speech conversion and page out from a web application from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTER II TO RC-210

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
There is nothing special about interfacing the RC-210 controller to a Mastr II. It has audio inputs and outputs, COR, CTCSS Decode and PTT lines just like any other controller. Get a piece of paper and draw out the radio connector, and look at the pinout and the signal voltages. Some tips:

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Tuning Tool

2009-11-24 Thread kq2h
Does Motorola still sell the black Mitrek hex tuning tool. If not, would anyone be willing to part with one?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Spectra Audio Popping after Capacitor replacement

2009-11-24 Thread Tim Ahrens
Hi David, Is the Hear Clear board only on the 900 mhz spectras? I was looking in my service manual, and it talks about the board plugging into P501, but on my VHF spectras, this plug is unpopulated.. As a side note, when I went to replace the capacitors, I noticed that a fire ant had given it's

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Tuning Tool

2009-11-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Actually, the black tool is the Micor universal tuning tool, and yes, it is still available from Motorola Parts. Order part #6684387C01, about $6. The Mitrek tool is white, and has a notched blade. The Micor tool is truly universal, since it fits most coils and capacitors in GE radios as well.

[Repeater-Builder] $2000 Motrac era repeater!

2009-11-24 Thread JOHN MACKEY
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ele/1477806751.html