swap you an LPB S15A 8ch Mono Broadcast Mixer and Spare Parts / manual for
the Duplexer Tuned and Ready to Go on my pair :)
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From: K5IN k...@comcast.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:22 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS,
The two I own and almost every other one I have seen power up on channel
one. I've seen one version of the RSS (that may have been hacked) that
lets you select the power on default channel.
N1OZ
Joe wrote:
Thanks to the two of you. My problem is that this particular R1225 is
programmed
The power control pots on these are notorious for going flakey.
Chuck Kelsey wrote:
In addition to checking the solder joints on the transistors, check the
connection between the PA output and the harmonic filter. This is another
prone intermittent point.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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W8YSU wrote:
Does anyone on this list have pictures or scematic of a VHF Master II hooked
up to an ARCOM RC-210?
We are starting to work on one for our Club Repeater and I am looking for
some examples for reference.
Dean,
Station or converted mobile?
Did you look here?
www.mastr2.com
sri, looking for cash deal.
Thanks
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From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS, Phelps Dodge UHF Duplexer
swap you an LPB S15A 8ch Mono Broadcast
After letting it cool, I key'd it up again. It immediately went up to
only 20 watts, then after about 30 seconds it hit 75 watts
and finally
after close to a minute and a half, it hit 100 watts. I let it cool
again, and same thing. This appears to be the way this amp is as
nothing I can
Jeff,
Thanks for the thought which is something I did not check. (nor do I
know how at the moment, I'll have to find the book)
I did check the obvious solder connections that usually fail and even
re-flowed them. The POT seems ok as when the amp finally does reach
full power, the POT varies
I have been in a big discussion with the guys on my boat list about the
right coax for running up the mast for VHF marine radio.
Keeping in mind that we are talking about a 70' or so run going up the
center of an aluminum mast, in a salt water environment, and the radio is
limited to 25 watts.
Not having been in the situation to have to rely on the radio while
out enjoying the water, I would still use the best I could get.
I dont know the turn radius of LMR 400 or even 600 but I would
seriously consider something along these lines and avoid all 8x cable.
Being locked in to the power
My experience with LMR 400 is that even with the factory connectors it leaks
water like crazy. Wouldn't want to have that happen in the salt air.
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Robinson
Sent: Tuesday,
From everything I've seen, tinned wire is recommended.
WA Brown
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From: Vernon Densler
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use
I have been in a big
At 08:17 AM 11/24/2009, Vernon Densler wrote:
I have been in a big discussion with the guys on my boat list about
the right coax for running up the mast for VHF marine radio.
Keeping in mind that we are talking about a 70' or so run going up
the center of an aluminum mast, in a salt water
I would Suggest looking at either aandrew FSJx-50 or LMR 3/8 or 1/2 heliax
type cable (100% solid shield) and if available a direct burial or underground
type jacket for additional water infiltration protection. Go the the home
pages or either mfg. to get full specs and min. bend radius.
Doug
The only issue I would have with Heliax is the possiblity of cracked and broken
solid conductors due to vibration and repeated flexing. If I were the vessel
owner, I'd use a good grade (Belden or equivalent) of RG-8 (X if you want).
There are not a lot of terrain features out there. I'd think
Looking at the list below, you can see that the 1/4 and 1/2 Superflex Heliax
have a very modest loss at VHF frequencies. I would use the 1/4 superflex.
It is very accomodating to bends, although I know of no coax that is
completly salt water-salt air resistant. I think that part of your
But how far can you get on the less than 9 watts you will have left after using
a cable with that much loss?
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lowell
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:39 PM
To:
You certainly don't want just any old coax. You for sure don't want any type
of hard line run up the mast as the flexing will break the center
conductor or outer conductor.
You want to have a stranded cable such as RG8 type. Also don't use any type
of foam dielectric type cable on a boat as the
Belden lists various cables approved for marine use here:
http://www.belden.com/pdfs/Prodbull/NP236.pdf
Chuck
WB2EDV
Tim Herron wrote:
Oh yeah, get the highest gain antenna you can get!
That's not a good idea. On a power boat yes, but a sailboat will usually
be listing when underway and with a high gain antenna flattening the
pattern you could be dumping the power into the sky or ocean.
If you go
Jed Barton wrote:
Hey guys,
Alright, got an interesting one ehre.
I've got a fire department who has an existing repeater on the air. They
want to have their dispatchers actually dispatching through the internet,
sending tones, ETC.
I know it can be done, the question is how?
This is a
Hi Folks,
I know it's been done a lot, but I have no experience in
having two repeaters simulcasting.
Here's the info:
There is an existing repeater that has some coverage issues
in a neighboring area. The folks in that area, while still
wanting to be on the same output frequency, will put a
ve3...@primus.ca wrote:
this is the silver box, note it is vhf, not uhf.
My question in the absence of any documentation is--what is the minimum
spacing, in order to use the internal duplexer.
Presently it's 2.7 mhzs between the tx/rx !!
If anyone has a manual, I will gladly pay to
I hope you copy and paste, at least part of your posting to qrz and part of
your book some day you will finish. Your story parallels mine in many ways, I
wish we could sit down some where for a beer all one afternoon, and I don't
drink. I too am looking for financially rewarding
You and I need to talk (I type too slow). I too have wanted a spectra on 220
mhz. Had not thought about the 1 pf cap trick.
.
bill
.
jawjabillatl---bellsouth---net
.
.
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mel Swanberg wa6...@... wrote:
Well, maybe I've actually managed to do something
Hi Folks,
I know it's been done a lot, but I have no experience in
having two repeaters simulcasting.
Here's the info:
There is an existing repeater that has some coverage issues
in a neighboring area. The folks in that area, while still
wanting to be on the same output frequency, will put
I was hoping to get info on putting a gm300 to the 220 mhz band so that I can
take advantage of the channel steering capabilities of that radio as a remote
base.
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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From: Bill jawjabill...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 24 Nov
Mil-spec RG-213 (not bogus RG 213 type cables) are well suited for this
application. The losses are not significant for what is, for practical
purposes, a line of sight application. The jacket is well suited for resistance
to ocean salts and UV. It's available at reasonable cost.
What
Folks,
I have a pair of Zetron Model 38 controllers -- one says 38A on the box, but is
clearly a 38 (no DPL). I would consider them in good condition and cosmetically
fair condition. I would like to trade both of them for a single 38A or 38Max.
Please contact me off-list if you're interested.
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, tahrens301 wrote:
There is an existing repeater that has some coverage issues in a
neighboring area. The folks in that area, while still wanting to be
on the same output frequency, will put a 2nd repeater (with a
different rx PL tone) up on a hill.
This isn't
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: ah...@ah6le.net
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:08:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use
At 08:17 AM 11/24/2009, Vernon Densler wrote:
I have been in a big discussion with
Hi Kris,
But when the dispatcher was sending tones to both repeaters, isn't
that simulcasting? That would be the only time that I could see
any kind of issue, as the mobile/portable units wouldn't be
transmitting on both at the same time.
Thanks,
Tim
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tim Ahrens wrote:
But when the dispatcher was sending tones to both repeaters, isn't
that simulcasting? That would be the only time that I could see any
kind of issue, as the mobile/portable units wouldn't be transmitting
on both at the same time.
How is it that the
Hi Folks,
I've been working on these Spectras, and so far,
the capacitors have done the trick.
But on this last radio, the speaker pops whenever
the audio path is open (unsquelched, signal, mode
change, etc).
Just curious if there's something I've missed.
Thanks,
Tim
All of these ideas (and they are just ideas, with some experience put behind
it) have merit. Just to think of the bigger picture, you may want to have a
spare antenna somewhere on the boat so that if you are de-masted, you can still
communicate. Your range will suffer only a bit if you still
Here in the county, all the fire repeaters have the same
output frequency pl tone, but different input pl tones.
They use separate radios for each area (E, W, etc).
What they would do in our case would be to allocate
(on their console) a different radio for the additional
repeater.
I believe
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tim Ahrens wrote:
Here in the county, all the fire repeaters have the same output
frequency pl tone, but different input pl tones.
They use separate radios for each area (E, W, etc).
What they would do in our case would be to allocate (on their console)
a different
Time for my favorite rant -- pardon me for a moment:
The more important point for putting Public Safety on IP networks
(of any sort) is that the IP link has MONITORING built in.
Most (even so-called Public Safety ready) IP linking systems DO
NOT have ANY way to notify the dispatcher that their
Afternoon Tim,
What you are describing is a Fire dispatch setup where one geographic area is
not getting the tones to set off pagers, poor reception, and the like, while
another area is doing fine. What you are inquiring is a black and white area
with Public Safety.
Placing
Hi Kris,
Thanks for the additional information.
I've been conversing with Milt off line, and I think the
only way this will work will be for them to sequentially
dispatch the two different departments. First on on repeater
#1, and then on #2.
Their thought was to use two different radios with
Hi Jason/Milt/Bill/Kris,
Thanks for all the info ammunition.
Since I take care of the westernmost radio stuff,
it should be enough to convince them to sequentially
page the departments not screw up what we already
have.
Think it'll be a while, as they have to get their
coordination stuff
I have an emergency antenna and wouldn't go anywhere without it. Also have
a hand held.
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Most likely they dispatch in sequence - over one repeater than over the
other.
Joe M.
Kris Kirby wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tim Ahrens wrote:
But when the dispatcher was sending tones to both repeaters, isn't
that simulcasting? That would be the only time that I could see any
kind of
Not sure why people think voice over IP is cheap, it is less costly but cheap ?
100% monitoring of line quality, multiple T 1s with different carriers and
still support a micro wave link to back all this up. When the T1 (s)goes down
and Micro is up we lose significant capacity on the system
I'll be in probably next Tuesday afternoon, Tedd...
Regards,
Keith VA3QF
CAMBRIDGE, ON
EN93tj
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tedd Doda la...@... wrote:
Hi Guys:
Does anyone close to Kitchener-Waterloo Ontario have a use for
a VHF repeater? This is just the cabinet, and it comes
1) 1 - Omron MK2PN-s relay...
2)5 - Potter Brumfield R10-E1-W2-V700
3) 6 - Sprague Powerlytic Capacitors 3600-40dc (total of 3) / 1-50dc /
2700-25dc / 22000-15dc /
4) 2 - Nippon 13000UF-50vdc
5) 1 - Motorola 11000-35vdc
One fellow down the reply list sent you the Belden marine pamphlet, give
that man a prize.
The short answer is the biggest **flexible** cable you can manage. But
there are other considerations just as important;
1) Supporting the weight of cable. Clamp it at the top and bottom.
Don't expect
Hi guys .We have aprox 8 separate repeaters with links back to a central
site allowing every thing to be broadcasted over all sites at the same time
When one repeater feeds into another and then onto another then delay
problems come into the picture.
Thank You ,Ian Wells
Kerinvale Comaudio,
Ok I am going to start parting out the 3 900mhz MASTR II repeaters I have. I
will have high power PA's 24volt ya know transmitters, receivers, GETC
controllers who wants these?. I think I even have the master ocsillator in
the pile someplace. I have the 24 volt power supplies but there is no
But how far can you get on the less than 9 watts you will have left after
using a cable with that much loss?
Pretty darn far! In the old days, I used to mess with the old packset (pre
handheld) radios that were available at the time. I had one GE, pre
PortaMobil that was rated at 250
Had the same problem with a 900 mhz Spectra. The hear clear board was
the problem. Changed it and the popping noise went away.
David
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tahrens301
Sent: Tuesday, November
Vern,
I suggest using some of the practices I employed in several control and
repeater stations I have installed on the Pacific Coast, subject to
corrosive salt air and runoff. First off, use genuine Military
Specification RG-214/U silver-plated coaxial cable, and not any ersatz cable
that has
We are talking large sailboats going off shore and staying in places with
little to no spare supplies. This all started with a friend that is in the
Caribbean and has had both of his radios fail and can't even make it to talk
to the marina's and bridges. Turns out that one of the radio problems
Anyone got one they want to get rid of?
Please reply directly to no6b at no6b dot com. Thanks.
Bob NO6B
We page 17 volunteer fire departments on UHF through four repeaters with 17
different tones, all four repeaters use the same frequency, just different
input pl's. The problem comes whenever any two repeaters is keyed at the
same time. if they would use two different frequencies, you could easily
Chris,
Fred could not have said it better. He is 100% correct. I have worked on
both, and I must say the Quantro is easier to work on.
Charles Miller
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Bray
Sent:
Arrangement have been made for the 8 th Annual 2010 VoIP Conference April 10
at Circus-Circus in Las Vegas, NV. This the weekend NAB is gearing up.
See http://www.narri.org/voip_conference.html and follow the links to
information and registration form. RSVP, please.
All are welcome to
CNT-400-DB cable
RF Industries crimp connectors installed properly
Self vulcanizing seal + good vinyl tape
Cable strain relief
1.5db loss per 100' @ VHF
Tight bend radius
Jeff
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vernon
do they want to have a back up to their main dispatch, as in a way to page
out as a back up to a conventional system? If so, warning systems (
http://www.warningsystems.com/products.htm) has some products that allow you
to do text to speech conversion and page out from a web application from
There is nothing special about interfacing the RC-210 controller to a Mastr II.
It has audio inputs and outputs, COR, CTCSS Decode and PTT lines just
like any other controller.
Get a piece of paper and draw out the radio connector, and look at
the pinout and the signal voltages.
Some tips:
Does Motorola still sell the black Mitrek hex tuning tool. If not, would
anyone be willing to part with one?
Hi David,
Is the Hear Clear board only on the 900 mhz spectras?
I was looking in my service manual, and it talks about
the board plugging into P501, but on my VHF spectras,
this plug is unpopulated..
As a side note, when I went to replace the capacitors,
I noticed that a fire ant had given it's
Actually, the black tool is the Micor universal tuning tool, and yes, it is
still available from Motorola Parts. Order part #6684387C01, about $6. The
Mitrek tool is white, and has a notched blade.
The Micor tool is truly universal, since it fits most coils and capacitors
in GE radios as well.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ele/1477806751.html
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