[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mirage B-320-G as a Repeater Amp

2010-08-13 Thread Bob - AF6D
Now that I am home from the hospital I can respond a bit better. The amp does fine without the duplexer inline. Full power and it follows the Mirage chart. But I had a thought (that's SCARY) I pulled out my seldom used MFJ 259 and dialed in my output. I plugged it into the duplexer TX side and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait T296

2010-08-13 Thread Gareth Bennett
Hi Mike, Depends on what you want to know I suppose? Gareth Bennett RadioSystems Limited P.O. Box 5202 Dunedin 9024 New Zealand DDI: (03) 489 1101 FAX: (03) 489 1151 MOB: (0224) 588 377 gare...@radsys.co.nz - Original Message - From: Mike Morris To:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait T296

2010-08-13 Thread niteviser
Hi Mike, I have accumulated a fair bit of knowledge over the years and I can find a reasonable amount of info, if that is what you are asking. I 'listen in' here and on the Tait group. niteviser --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris wa6i...@... wrote: I converted it and added

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dielectric diplexer

2010-08-13 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, skipp025 wrote: brand diplexer rated at 25000 watts on 191 Mhz from a analog TV station. I feel a little bit like the dog that catches the car he is chasing. Now that I have it, what can I do with it? Any ideas? Can it go to 220? Does anyone have any experience

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-08-13 Thread Mark Tomany
Well if you think about it, Nate, VE's ARE an off-site testing facillity... of sorts.   Mark - N9WYS (also a pilot) --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: Side-comment: As a pilot and IT person, I've been taking tests for both at professional testing locations like ProMetric

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery Micor problem

2010-08-13 Thread n3ssl
Glenn and Group, You were right on the channel elment being the issue ( placed a kxn 1024 for uhf and right on Rx.) Now i am looking for a KXN 1019 VHF not finding any in boxes or ebay. anyone have one they can spare? Ryan n3ssl --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Little WB4UIV

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Sid
I have a note in my file that I do not recall where it came from relative to cable length between the duplexer and the TX or between the duplexer and additional filter. Length = (30)(32.785)(vf/freq). 30 is for 30 degrees, vf is velocity factor, freq is the average of the pass and reject

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery Micor problem

2010-08-13 Thread La Rue Communications
If it wasnt Friday the 13th and I wasnt a bonehead and left my shop keys at home - I would check our stash for you. Can you wait til MOnday and I will? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: n3ssl

[Repeater-Builder] Tait T800 Series II

2010-08-13 Thread Ken Arck
The last time I delt with Tait equipment was their mobiles back in the early 90's. They worked well and were rugged (installed in helicopters so you know there was lots of vibration!). Anyway, consider the following: Tait T800 Series II Repeater UHF 440-480 100W Consists of: T808-10-0012 110

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T800 Series II

2010-08-13 Thread Steve
Hi the T800,s both series one and two are great, series one uses eproms series two is an eeprom programmed using a single data line via an rj11 skt on the front and rear. In the UK a series two sells for around 400ukp a low band series one for around 200ukp. 73 Steve - Original Message -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread allan crites
Nate, I have both the 12th and 14th edition of the ARRL Antenna books, the 12th I acquired in 1974 and have read and re-read the section on transmission lines and impedance matching probabily more than anyone else has. I sometimes learn new things with each re-reading, as there is much to be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Russ Hines
Hmm, the formula is a bit off, but... 30 x 32.785 = 983.55. I'll also bet length is expressed in feet. Looks eerily like someone wants you to cut a one-wavelength piece of coax cut at the mean repeater frequency. Just a guess. 73, Russ WB8ZCC On 8/13/2010 11:38 AM, Sid wrote: I have a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Gary Schafer
Hi Allan, Do we really care what the output impedance of the transmitter is? Most transmitters do not present a pure 50 ohm output but are tuned to transfer maximum power into a 50 ohm load. This often comes out to something way different than a 50 ohm source impedance. As the source

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread allan crites
Gary, Perhaps you can give us some examples to illustrate your thoughts. Perhaps you can also explain why GE chose to include a pi network on the output of the HB M-2 base xmtr to match the xmtr output to 50 Ohms, the shunt capacitor values and the series inductor value used. I'm interested to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-750 Crunchy/Grungy Weak Signal Audio

2010-08-13 Thread Bob - AF6D
I have a DB224-E on order along with hard line and a receive filter and crystal assembly. It seems that I have a 147.435 high power remote with a 12 element beam and 600 watts aimed through me from 1.105MHz away and only two city blocks. The 435 repeater is legendary. We've picked up

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sorry everyone

2010-08-13 Thread Bob - AF6D
I haven't read all of the relies on this, but I also haven't read that there is proof that your computer actually sent the messages. All that is needed is your email address int he reply-to field in the message header and you get the blame. I own and operate a mid-sized web hosting company and

[Repeater-Builder] Tait T296 PSU Circuit

2010-08-13 Thread Gordon Cooper
niteviser, Thanks a lot, circuit downloaded without trouble. Gordon ZL1KL

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Jeff DePolo
I'm going to take a stab at this, at the risk of possibly stepping on Gary's toes. 1. RF amplifiers in general (not only solid state) don't *have* a 50 ohm source impedance, they're (nominally) designed to work *into* a 50 ohm load. The difference is subtle, but significant. Transmitters aren't

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mirage B-320-G as a Repeater Amp

2010-08-13 Thread Jeff DePolo
The amp does fine without the duplexer inline. Full power and it follows the Mirage chart. But I had a thought (that's SCARY) I pulled out my seldom used MFJ 259 and dialed in my output. I plugged it into the duplexer TX side and noted that it reads 39 ohms. I disconnected the remaining

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Jeff DePolo
I must have missed some posts - my inbox ran out of space (I'm on the road and not checking email as often as I usually do), so my apologies if I'm asking questions that have already been answered... Allan Crites and I are currently in discussion which will be used as the basis of a RB web

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mirage B-320-G as a Repeater Amp

2010-08-13 Thread x.tait.tech
throw away the duplexer and get another i seem to read everything you state it is fine until i plug in the duplexor inline at least if not, do you have another duplexer to try in its place Marcus On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: The amp does fine

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T296 PSU Circuit

2010-08-13 Thread x.tait.tech
can i pls have a copy of it, even if need be yousendit.com to me i have a circuit here somewhere, but fail so far to find it, and i know i don't have it online Marcus On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Gordon Cooper zl...@nzart.org.nz wrote: niteviser, Thanks a lot, circuit downloaded

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2010-08-13 Thread Jim in Waco WB5OXQ
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait T296 PSU Circuit

2010-08-13 Thread niteviser
In the Files section Marcus. 296-01 PS as a jpeg. It is all I have on it, but it was with the 296/11 and /16 circuits, which are slightly different. niteviser --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, x.tait.tech x.tait.t...@... wrote: can i pls have a copy of it, even if need be yousendit.com

[Repeater-Builder] Need low power PA mod help for VHF MVP

2010-08-13 Thread Thomas Oliver
I am in need of a 2-5 watt range amp to drive an external amplifier, the stock VHF MVP amp is adjustable from 8-25 watts output, I think by bypassing Q202 I will be close to my goal. I need to know where to connect the coax to keep Q201 from getting mad. I have done this on UHF MVP's before

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Custer
Jeff DePolo wrote: Maybe I'm not understanding right. Are you saying that by varying the cable length between the transmitter and the duplexer that you can affect the insertion loss of the duplexer? No. Because the impedance is not matched between the transmitter and duplexer, the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T296 PSU Circuit

2010-08-13 Thread Mike Morris
At 06:44 PM 08/13/10, you wrote: can i pls have a copy of it, even if need be http://yousendit.comyousendit.com to me Go to www.repeater-builder.com then to Tait then right click on it and download it.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need low power PA mod help for VHF MVP

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Custer
Thomas Oliver wrote: I am in need of a 2-5 watt range amp to drive an external amplifier, the stock VHF MVP amp is adjustable from 8-25 watts output, I think by bypassing Q202 I will be close to my goal. I need to know where to connect the coax to keep Q201 from getting mad. I have done

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-08-13 Thread Nate Duehr
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Mark Tomany wrote: Well if you think about it, Nate, VE's ARE an off-site testing facillity... of sorts. Mark - N9WYS (also a pilot) Heh, good points all. Just had a hmm, that's interesting thought in the middle of the night, that wasn't so interesting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Nate Duehr
Allan, Wow... sounds like a great article you guys are working on! Now that I see the scope of what you're up to, it sounds like a great addition to the website. (Well, it would have been a great addition anyway... but wow!) You give me FAR too much credit, if you think I could add to it.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Nate Duehr
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Jeff DePolo wrote: d) To charge more. I'm half-joking on this; I can't say I've statistically seen more or less failures on M2 PA's with or without the Z-matcher, so I'll give this answer half a smiley: .-, Lucky. I have. Learned that lesson... ;-) Got a pile

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2010-08-13 Thread Richard
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread allan crites
Jeff, My internet service was interrupted again tonight for 2 hrs as well as last night and I just got off the phone with the tech in MX city for 35 min till he restored the service. He wants to get me a new modem to solve my problem but can't deliver it until Tuesday at which time I will be