[Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Problem

2009-10-12 Thread terry dalpoas
I have a TS-64 on my GE Mastr II UHF amateur repeater along with a Link RLC-1 controller. The RLC-1 requires active low to represent CTCSS. I have installed JP7 on the TS-64 to make the RX MUTE (white) wire go low upon decode. I get nothing. I have already tested the PL input on the RLC-1,

[Repeater-Builder] TS-64 on an MSR2000

2008-09-12 Thread Glen
Hello, I just hooked up my new TS-64 to the MSR2000. I did it this way: Black to pin 1 Squelch Gate (GND) Red to pin 12 Squelch Gate (+V) Green to pin 10 R1 Audio (JU1 removed) discriminator output from rx Blue to pin 13 R1 Audio, High pass audio out of TS-64 White to pin 14 Squelch Gate PL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS 64 and voter

2008-01-13 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:34 PM 01/12/08, you wrote: Hi, Anyone here tried using a TS64 after a voter. I can see were decoding would chop in and out, as it changes between site selected, but thought we would ask the group. Randy Short answer: It shouldn't. Long answer The user's PL encoder is the source,

[Repeater-Builder] TS 64 and voter

2008-01-12 Thread wb8art
Hi, Anyone here tried using a TS64 after a voter. I can see were decoding would chop in and out, as it changes between site selected, but thought we would ask the group. Randy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-11 Thread JOHN MACKEY
OK, so tell us about your filter. Perhaps others will want to copy it! Charles Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same problem with my TS-64 in my VHF Micor repeater. I had to use the input filter on the TS-64 and it started to work as good or better than the /\/\ decoder did. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-11 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've again looked at the TS-64 schematic. I can find no way to selectively use (or not use) the low pass filter that is integral on the board -- as you call it the input filter. As such, I must conclude that Charles Miller must have incorrectly connected his TS-64, then realized the wiring error,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-10 Thread Charles Miller
I had the same problem with my TS-64 in my VHF Micor repeater. I had to use the input filter on the TS-64 and it started to work as good or better than the /\/\ decoder did. The discriminator audio has a lot of low frequency noise that was causing the decoder to delay the decode about 400mS. After

[Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-09 Thread wb6ymh
I've recently added a ts64 to a 2 meter Micor repeater and have noticed that the PL decode time is noticeable, probably between 1/4 and 1/2 second. I'm use to Motorola PL decoders that have no noticeable pickup time. The ts64 decode seems to be solid with no problems talking it off. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-09 Thread Eric Lemmon
Skip, Check to be certain that your discriminator audio tapoff point does not have a DC level superimposed on the signal. Even if the audio level is okay, the DC mixed with the signal can cause charging delays in coupling capacitors, possibly biasing off an amplifier for a short interval. 73,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-09 Thread Steve Grantham
: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:18 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time? I've recently added a ts64 to a 2 meter Micor repeater and have noticed that the PL decode time is noticeable, probably between 1/4 and 1/2 second. I'm use to Motorola PL decoders that have no noticeable

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-09 Thread albemarle7
I have same problem with two Micor mobile radios and a homemade repeater. Using TS32 and a TS64. (PL 123 Hz- made it simple so I wouldn't forget) All three have long delay time, about 500 ms or longer to key up xmtr. People actually can say something and the repeater misses it completely.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time?

2004-09-09 Thread Jim B.
: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:18 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ts 64 pickup time? I've recently added a ts64 to a 2 meter Micor repeater and have noticed that the PL decode time is noticeable, probably between 1/4 and 1/2 second. I'm use to Motorola PL decoders that have no noticeable pickup

[Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread David Schornak
has anyone installed a ts-64 into a micor base/repeater station? is so does anyone have the layout of where to make all the connections? if not is there a better way to get tone decode and encode on a micor without having to buy a tone encode and decode and the two reeds for them? Yahoo!

RE: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread Gregg Lengling
Member: ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC -Original Message- From: David Schornak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:25 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station has anyone installed a ts-64 into a micor

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread David Schornak
thanks Greg it off to find another manual - Original Message - From: Gregg Lengling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station Sure it's easy to do, you can get Disc

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 12:25 PM 5/19/04 -0400, you wrote: has anyone installed a ts-64 into a micor base/repeater station? is so does anyone have the layout of where to make all the connections? if not is there a better way to get tone decode and encode on a micor without having to buy a tone encode and decode and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-22 Thread Jim B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eric, Reverse burst is one of my favorite topics! The TS-64 is probably designed to operate on the more common of the two standard reverse burst formats, privately referred to as Kenwood and the Rest of the World format. This format shifts the phase of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-22 Thread scomind
Eric and all, Reverse burst is one of my favorite topics! The TS-64 is probably designed to operate on the more common of the two standard reverse burst formats, privately referred to as "Kenwood and the Rest of the World" format. This format shifts the phase of the CTCSS tone by 180 degrees

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-22 Thread Thomas Oliver
You don't need a courtesy tone with a long squelch crash. tom n8ies - Original Message - From: Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst I just wonder if I'am the only one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-22 Thread Don
I just wonder if I'am the only one that actually likes that nice great loud Motorola sq Burst after it un keys , Must revert back to the old Law Enforcement days . My Micor uhf system will have it. Happy Holidays Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-22 Thread Chuck Kelsey
:38 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst You don't need a courtesy tone with a long squelch crash. tom n8ies Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-22 Thread Don
At 09:38 PM 12/22/03 -0500, you wrote: You don't need a courtesy tone with a long squelch crash. tom n8ies Thanks now, I Understand if I Don't have a nice sounding courtesy tone, The Person will no have enough sense to talk after the repeater drops. Happy Holidays Don KA9QJG Yahoo!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-22 Thread Neil McKie
Nope, you are not the only one. Neil - WA6KLA Don wrote: I just wonder if I'am the only one that actually likes that nice great loud Motorola sq Burst after it un keys , Must revert back to the old Law Enforcement days . My Micor uhf system will have it. Happy Holidays Don

Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64]

2003-12-21 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Beckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 This is defeatable, I have described this several times - instead of turning off the tone generator thereby activating the reverse burst

Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64]

2003-12-21 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 This is defeatable, I have described this several times - instead of turning off the tone generator thereby activating the reverse burst just use a hold low in between 2 15K resistors to pinch the pl output of the ts64 module going towards

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64

2003-12-20 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
This is defeatable, I have described this several times - instead of turning off the tone generator thereby activating the reverse burst just use a hold low in between 2 15K resistors to pinch the pl output of the ts64 module going towards the modulator. To use this you will have to hold the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64

2003-12-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 This is defeatable, I have described this several times - instead of turning off the tone generator thereby activating the reverse burst just use a hold low in between 2 15K resistors to pinch the pl output of the ts64 module going towards the modulator. To use this you

Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64]

2003-12-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 This is defeatable, I have described this several times - instead of turning off the tone generator thereby activating the reverse burst just use a hold low in between 2 15K

Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64]

2003-12-20 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 This is defeatable, I have described this several times - instead of turning off the tone generator thereby activating the reverse burst just use a hold low in between 2 15K resistors to pinch the pl output of the ts64 module going towards

[Repeater-Builder] TS-64

2003-12-19 Thread scomind
Hi Guys, We've discovered something interesting about the TS-64 CTCSS module. The encoder portion has a built-in reverse burst feature which is not defeatable. Problem is, the reverse burst lasts about 150 mS, which is long enough for the decoder on the other end to start decoding again. This

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-19 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bob, Reverse burst is one of my favorite topics! The TS-64 is probably designed to operate on the more common of the two standard reverse burst formats, privately referred to as Kenwood and the Rest of the World format. This format shifts the phase of the CTCSS tone by 180 degrees for about 150

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-19 Thread scomind
Hi Eric, Reverse burst is one of my favorite topics! The TS-64 is probably designed to operate on the more common of the two standard reverse burst formats, privately referred to as "Kenwood and the Rest of the World" format. This format shifts the phase of the CTCSS tone by 180 degrees for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64

2003-12-19 Thread James
Depending on what you have available, you could switch the audio coming from the unit off prior to dropping the carrier of the tx. This would allow your decoder to stop and eliminate squelch noise. James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, We've discovered something interesting about the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64 Reverse Burst

2003-12-19 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bob, I don't know how each manufacturer actually implements the reverse burst decoding, but your options certainly sound reasonable. When you have a PLL locked up to a tone, it's easy to detect a phase shift, while it may be more difficult to count zero crossings and detect the phase shift. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-64

2003-12-19 Thread James
I switch my ts64's using a logic out on the rlc controller to the orange ptt in lead , however, I still sometimes don't get good reverse burst with the motorola receivers that are listening to the ts64 encoder. Makes for extra courtesy beeps or the occasional burst over the links. James