Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-09 Thread DCFluX
An additional 20dB of isolation can be realized by replacing the antenna Tee connector with a circulator. Port A to B tuned to the TX frequency, Port B to C tuned to the RX frequency. Connect TX to port A, antenna to B, Receiver to C. I'm using a set of WP-639 and with this setup I am seeing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-09 Thread NORM KNAPP
23:08:38 2010 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question The PLL exciter is why you're having such good success running a 4-cavity duplexer. If you had a PM exciter, chances are you'd be experiencing desense. The PLL exciter produces about 22 dB less noise at 600 kHz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-09 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question An additional 20dB of isolation can be realized by replacing the antenna Tee connector with a circulator. Port A to B tuned to the TX frequency, Port B to C tuned to the RX frequency. Connect TX to port

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-09 Thread Chuck Kelsey
KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:04 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question Oh drat! I thought I was getting away with something :-) I am about to start on a 6m mastr ii with 1 meg split

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-09 Thread larryjspamme...@teleport.com
WACOM hasn't been in business for some years now. Good luck contacting them directly! -Original Message- From: Richard Kelly Sent: Sep 8, 2010 9:18 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question Good evening Eric

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-09 Thread Steven M Hodell
/duplexers.html From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larryjspamme...@teleport.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:04 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question WACOM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-09 Thread larryjspamme...@teleport.com
Hodell Sent: Sep 9, 2010 11:10 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question WACOM was bought out my Telewave and there tech support staff is very helpful… http://telewave.com/ You can cross reference your older Wacom cavities

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Andrew Seybold
What repeater are you running? Is it a GE Mastr II by chance? Andy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RichardK Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:11 PM 9/8/2010, RichardK wrote: Good evening, our club has a Wacom WP-639 four can duplexer as part of our repeater system. Input Fq is 147.915 and Output Fq is 147.315. We have a 600kHz (+) offset. Very simply, our main problem is when we run the transmitter at full power 100 watts,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:38 PM 9/8/2010, Andrew Seybold wrote: What repeater are you running? Is it a GE Mastr II by chance? ---You hinting at the issue of Mastr II amp going spurious when the power is turned down too far? Ken --

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kelly
i'm at work right now--I will get that info tomorrow!! Rich K W2RRK x To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: aseyb...@andrewseybold.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:38:49 -0700 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question What repeater are you running

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Kevin Custer
On 9/8/2010 6:11 PM, RichardK wrote: Good evening, our club has a Wacom WP-639 four can duplexer as part of our repeater system. Input Fq is 147.915 and Output Fq is 147.315. We have a 600kHz (+) offset. Very simply, our main problem is when we run the transmitter at full power 100

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
I'm not surprised- you're asking too much of a duplexer that has four 5 cans. According to my CommShop program, a duplexer with an 80 dB spec is more suitable with transmitter power in the 10-15 watt range, assuming a solid-state PA and a receiver sensitivity around 0.35 uV at 12 dB SINAD. On a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kelly
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: wb6...@verizon.net Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:10:44 -0700 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question I'm not surprised- you're asking too much of a duplexer that has four 5 cans. According to my CommShop program, a duplexer

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:18 PM 9/8/2010, Richard Kelly wrote: We will be trying other things such as adding a second ground rod outside the shack instead of the single one we use now. We will also try isolating the amp some more and replacing the coax feed line with hard line. --That is a complete waste

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
it. 73, Mike WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kelly Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:19 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Joe
I'm afraid your wasting your time. According to the document for the Wacom 639 duplexer, this is what it says: MIN. FREQ. SPACING: 600 KHz POWER: TO 200 WATTS Notice that it says TO 200 watts. That would be if you were at 2MHz of spacing or more. You are only at 600KHz spacing, so you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kelly
From: ah...@ah6le.net Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:24:41 -0700 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question At 06:18 PM 9/8/2010, Richard Kelly wrote: We will be trying other things such as adding a second ground rod outside the shack instead of the single one we use now

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread no6b
At 9/8/2010 18:24, you wrote: At 06:18 PM 9/8/2010, Richard Kelly wrote: We will be trying other things such as adding a second ground rod outside the shack instead of the single one we use now. We will also try isolating the amp some more and replacing the coax feed line with hard

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Sep 08 20:10:44 2010 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question I'm not surprised- you're asking too much of a duplexer that has four 5 cans. According to my CommShop program

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Rich, The short answer is: You need to find a bigger duplexer. Four 8 cans would work well such as a Wacom WP-641. You could simply call and order one if Wacom was still in business. (RIP) Unfortunately Tx/Rx bought them years ago for the name and to quash competition. They can be found

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:21 PM 9/8/2010, n...@no6b.com wrote: Replacing copper-braided coax with RG-214 or hardline is hardly a waste of time. --Notice I said: More grounding and replacing coax with hardline (unless your coax isn't doubleshield to start with) will buy you nothing. I was assuming he wasn't

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Jeff DePolo
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question I got a set of 4 sinclair cans