Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question
Rich, The short answer is: You need to find a bigger duplexer. Four 8 cans would work well such as a Wacom WP-641. You could simply call and order one if Wacom was still in business. (RIP) Unfortunately Tx/Rx bought them years ago for the name and to quash competition. They can be found occasionally for around $600 or so on the used market. Other alternatives are as follows: 1) You can use two antennas and split the 639 duplexer so that 2 cans are in series between the TX and the TX antenna, and the other two are in series between the RX and the RX antenna. Terry WX3M a list member is doing this with VERY good results on one of his VHF machines. Of course this involves the expense of additional feedline and a second antenna. I think you said you had this machine on an 80' mast. 50' or so of vertical isolation coupled with the additional isolation of splitting the duplexer *may* be enough isolation to get rid of all the desense. TX goes on bottom, RX on top. 2) Buy additional Band Pass / Band Reject (BPBR) cans. You can add these additional cans between the Tx and/or Rx and the duplexer. These cans will give additional isolation. Even if you can find just Pass or Notch cavities, tune them and put them in the correct place. With both of the above options, you are looking to add to the isolation between your transmitter and receiver. You'll find you'll do best by adding cans to your transmitter that notch side-band noise at your receiver's frequency. In other words, do what you can to insure your receiver is not hearing your own transmitter's sideband noise on it's input. Pass cans tuned to the TX frequency or NOTCH cavities tuned to your *RX* frequency placed in the transmit line are your best hope. Good luck, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 On 9/8/2010 9:52 PM, Richard Kelly wrote: Hello again Ken, Thank you for replying with more info, we appreciate it. My email address if you want to get off this posting is w2...@arrl.net mailto:w2...@arrl.net How would we go about providing MORE isolation than what we have done so far? Rich Kelly W2RRK
[Repeater-Builder] GE MII high power metering
Fellows, Looking for a metering panel for a high power GE MII or MPro station. These are found on the cabinets housing the 330W tube-type PA's. I have a few PA's around, but no metering for them. I'd like to find enough panels to make all my PA's complete. It makes no difference if this is from a Low-Band, VHF, or UHF high power station. Let me know what you've got and how much $$. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
[Repeater-Builder] DON'T BUY IT **** Thread Closed***
This Has gone on WAY to long. This thread is now OVER!!! Let the bannings begin!!! I have shut this list DOWN in the past and will again. Scott Zimmerman - List Co-Owner Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Brian Raker wrote: He probably filed the forms for a 'vanity' call sign. -Brian / KF4ZWZ (licensed in Tennessee, living in SoCal...) On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:27 AM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com mailto:laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Doug! Yes, I do also post on AR902 list, I am one and the same. My boss, Knox got lucky with his name and call sign. K6NOX is just perfect.fate, or luck? :-) Thanks to everyone who posted - I hope I do get my license soon too - met a few HAMs and have a good friend in San Jose who just last weekend spent his Sunday on the hill with an outdoor antenna just purely for the sake of being a HAM. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Doug mailto:w7...@yahoo.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:16 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT *HIJACKED* Back on Subject --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: As one who is seeking to get my call sign - this post raises a question in my head. Are call signs distributed according to region? For example, W2/N2/K2 are in the Colorado region, etc? And thats for the sequential call signs, correct? From what I understand, if you want a custom call sign, its on a first come, first serve basis - right? *Letting the other thread die*John Hymes I know of you and your business [all positive things of course]. I think you do also post on the AR902Mhz Yahoo list, yes? The FCC assigns a Ham callsign based on your geographic location and/or state/region. They refer to them as, Call District. Example California will have a W6/K6/N6/A6 etc. prefix whereas New York, New Jersey would have the W2 prefix. The standard callsign selection process is not terribly complicated but the FCC in their madness, has a method. For custom callsigns like mine [my initials] it's called the vanity callsign program. Check out this ARRL website for some more indepth information on custom callsigns:http://www.arrl.org/vanity-call-signs 73 Doug W7FDF
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DON'T BUY IT **** Thread Closed***
Scott Zimmerman wrote: This Has gone on WAY to long. Ok, reading the rest of the message I replied to makes me think that I jumped the gun a bit here. When I saw the 20 e-mail messages in the box beating the same slip-up OVER and OVER again, I went off the deep end. Fellows I think we can all agree that things slip and get sent to lists that shouldn't. Nobody needs BROW BEAT for a mistake. ONE reply from ONE individual would have sufficed!! The end. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Scott Zimmerman wrote: This Has gone on WAY to long.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] URL refresh
I found a phone number for Glenn. I called and left a message offering web space on the RB site for his 222 maxtrac conversion article. Hopefully we'll get a positive response. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Mike Morris wrote: The members.aol web server has been shut down since november of 2008. You must have found it somewhere else (and I'd like to see it as well). Mike WA6ILQ At 07:16 PM 08/22/10, you wrote: Is there a refreshed URL for the site regarding Maxtrac conversions to 222 MHz? I thought I surfed to the site a few weeks ago but didn't bookmark it. Thanks Mike / W5JR Take a look at this link http://members.aol.com/w8ak/maxtrac222.htm I ran into Glenn, W8AK out at Dayton back in May.. He had a couple of these Maxtracs set up as a repeater on 224 mhz and seemed to work real nice.. I have not tried the conversion myself but it looks like it would be a nice way to link on 222 mhz if someone wanted to give it a try.. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TK-690H 29.5-37 MHz, Type 1 radio(s) wanted
Skipp, How did you work the antenna scheme for this radio? Did you use the Motorola docs, or some other method? In my app, I am going to be using a Syntor X on 6 and 10. I was going to use a controller UF output to control a RF relay for the correct antenna based upon what channel the remote base was set for. This leaves room for error both on the part of the controller and idiot doing the programming. (Me) It sure would be nice to have an RF solution (the Motorola cut length cable method) or an internal radio logic way of doing this. P.S. I do have a copy of Motorola 68-80100W86 - Diplex Antenna Manual. This document is written for use with standard base-loaded mobile antennas only. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 skipp025 wrote: However, you can get a tk-6110 to do both 10 and 6 meters in the same radio. I personally have done the mod a few times, it's not super easy but it can be done.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: unsubscribe (reading yahoo group posts - a butter way - no popcorn)
I am subscribed to all of my groups in 'single e-mail' form. I have configured Thunderbird to sort those groups into individual folders. By doing this, I can look at things in a digest mode. If I want to get rid of a bunch at one clip, I can select all and hit delete. Just my 2c worth of ideas. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 skipp025 wrote: You guys are silly... Consider changing your group settings to read on the web using a web browser. Then... simply locate the group with your web browser bookmark anytime you want to read the group posts. No flood of inbound Emails for each post or large digest Emails required. Probably drive one to drink (more) if they were subscribed to more than 3 or 4 Groups at one time. Having a yahoo email address automatically signs me into all the groups for which I am subscribed. To read this, the Repeater Builder Group I simply click on the below Bookmark saved in my Web Browser. Once you change your settings to web only (I prefer the traditional or classic view) try the below url and enjoy life again. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/messages If you don't use Yahoo Mail, you might be asked to sign in at the start of your web browsing session, but once you're in, you are in for all the groups for which you subscribe. cheers, s. ps: If you're subscribed to more than one group, here's the page that helps you get your book marks set up. http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Now resume normal programming. Your best bet is to setup your email to receive each post in digest form meaning once a day on average you will receive a bunch of postings in just one email into your inbox. When you get around to opening up your inbox you can just scroll through each individual posting, read the ones that interest you and when finished, hit the delete key and they all go away!!! Seeing 15-30 separate, individual emails in my inbox during the course of one day is a bit too much. Try it, you'll like it OM!!73 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jim in Waco WB5OXQ wb5oxq@ wrote: I do not need to read these anymore. I am not mad just getting too many emails. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RE:Mastr II drift problem
If you have a RX 5C or 2C -or- a phase 5C or 2C ICOM, you can transplant the compensation circuit into a EC PLL ICOM. There are only 3 pins involved. There is some degree of skill required as the compensator circuit is built on a ceramic/glass substrate and is somewhat fragile. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 steve wrote: Hello, Does anyone have a 5C for the PLL exciter they want to sell? This is the larger Icom. Thanks Steve --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Doug Bade k...@... wrote: There are 5C elements made for that exciter. you just do not have one.. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RE:Mastr II drift problem I was told that I should be using 5C for receive and transmit but the 5C will NOT fit on my PLL exciter. Any ideas? Steve W4SEF Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding
I was wondering about that myself. The bandwidths spec'd just didn't seem to compute in my feeble mind. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Jeff DePolo wrote: Florida Repeater Coordinator proposes narrowbanding: http://www.florida-repeaters.org/FRC%202meter%20narrowband%20p olicy%20released%207-18-10.pdf Apparently Carson's Rule works different in Florida than it does everywhere else. --- Jeff WN3A Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Give Away - Motorola Micor VHF/UHF Mobiles GE Low Band Mobiles
If only I lived in Texas.. Humph!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 wb5dcu wrote: I am cleaning out the shack and I have the following radios I would like to give away: 7 - Motorola Micor VHF Mobiles 5 - Motorola Micor UHF Mobiles 1 - Motorola Q2904A UHF Industrial repeater 1 - Motorola Syntor UHF 1 - Motorola Mitrek UHF 1 - GE Master II Low Band mobile with accessories 1 - GE Master PRO Low Band mobile with accessories 1 - Motorola Micor VHF mobile converted to a 147.080MHz repeater mounted in BUD cabinet with NHRC-2 controller. Some of the Micor's are parts radios, they were given to our repeater group by a local 2 way shop that was going out of business. The 147.08 repeater was taken out of service about 5 years ago. It was working when we replaced it with a new repeater. These are free, take all or none. I will NOT ship, local pick up only. I live in Sherman Texas which is located north of Dallas Texas on US Highway 75. Contact me by email at wb5d...@verizon.net Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adjusting low power on an R1225 repeater
If you have a spectrum analyzer, be sure and check it for spectral purity. *Most* radios don't like to have their power cut back that far. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Joe wrote: Hello to All, I want to turn the power down on my Motorola R1225 repeater to about 5 watts. It is the high power UHF version (25-45 watts). The reason for the low power is to drive a power amp at the output I want to achieve. Any drawbacks to running the R1225 this low? 73, Joe, K1ike Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Open Rack
All-- I have a nice 6' open rack here that I would like to give away--- South San Francisco bay area a bit North of San Jose--- Scott, N6NXI
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater help needed in Western VA
Fellows, I haven't had any volunteers yet, so I thought I would plead again: I am writing on behalf of a customer of mine. He bought a 2M repeater from me and is having trouble getting it going. I think he needs help getting his duplexer tuned and cabled correctly. He seems like a nice enough fellow. He had a fall some time ago that fractured most of his limbs. Needless to say, getting around is difficult. At any rate, he has a decibel products 6-8 cans that he is only getting about 60dB of isolation out of. (A local radio shop tuned them. HIHI) The local guys around him seem incredibly inept when it comes to repeaters. One of them even told him that his repeater was upside down because: that's not how my radio is programmed!! (upside down between a mobile and repeater setup) Is there any list member, or does anyone know someone, that is close to Big Stone Gap, VA 24219 that might be able to give this fellow a hand? He looks to be about 2 hours NE of Knoxville. I'm sure reasonable compensation would be offered. I'd help him out myself, but it's a 7 hour drive for me. Let me know if you'd be willing to give it a shot and I'll put you in contact with the gentleman directly. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater help needed in Western VA
Fellows, I am writing on behalf of a customer of mine. He bought a 2M repeater from me and is having trouble getting it going. I think he needs help getting his duplexer tuned and cabled correctly. He seems like a nice enough fellow. He had a fall some time ago that fractured most of his limbs. Needless to say, getting around is difficult. At any rate, he has a decibel products 6-8 cans that he is only getting about 60dB of isolation out of. (A local radio shop tuned them. HIHI) The local guys around him seem incredibly inept when it comes to repeaters. One of them even told him that his repeater was upside down because: that's not how my radio is programmed!! (upside down between a mobile and repeater setup) Is there any list member, or does anyone know someone, that is close to Big Stone Gap, VA 24219 that might be able to give this fellow a hand? He looks to be about 2 hours NE of Knoxville. I'm sure reasonable compensation would be offered. I'd help him out myself, but it's a 7 hour drive for me. Let me know if you'd be willing to give it a shot and I'll put you in contact with the gentleman directly. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Controller recommendations
Chris and others, I have an older FF800 with version 2.19F firmware and an 8090 remote base controller. I have taken it to hamfests trying to get a few bucks out of it with no takers. I was wondering if you or any other list member were in the market for one and what you might offer. I am about ready to put it on FleaBay, but I would rather do a done deal than go that route. Make me a reasonable offer in a personal reply and it's yours. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Chris Curtis wrote: My biggest likes of the ff-800: 5 radio ports (4 if you use a local mic/monitor) Electronic pots for audio. My biggest dislikes: Volatile memory in the dvr. -Can't tell you how many times those tracks were loaded/reloaded from the irlp box. Kb0wlf
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mystery Box
Many thanks Randy -and all other commenters-- My mystery is solvedamazing the knowledge that lurks within this group and all that it took on my part was to ask for a little of it. After I sent my milliseconds comment, I got to thinking in microsecondswhereas a total delay of about a second seemed impossible in the box size, a total delay of about a millisecond in 100 microsecond steps sounded within the realm of possibility---and that is what is is. I'll put the instruments on it to see the performance they achieved 40 years ago when I think it was built---(7109 date code on the box). Now, a quick follow on question. If the delay box is used to match the data arrival from two simulcasting transmitters, call them A B, to a point C, what happens to the match when point C moves? It seems to me that if point C is a moving target, that adequate match could easily be lost anyway. Guess I need to study up on simulcast system design. Thanks again-- Scott - Original Message - From: Randy Fisher To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mystery Box This is a 600 Ohm Delay line used in setting audio delay's on Simulcast paging systems. The delay is in micro seconds. I have used several of these on an old Ameritech 158.100 paging system. This unit goes between the Link receiver or a leased audio telephone line, you set the delay by soldering to the correct post. I hope this helps, Randy WB9VLE From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Overstreet Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 2:57 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Overstreet Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mystery Box Hello All-- In answer to Ted, Eric and others---Yes, I guess it could be a taped delay line --but at telephone audio? I'm saying telephone because of the telco wire attachedWhat do you think the numbers might be?---milli-seconds? seems like that would take a lot of network but then there is a fair amount of space in the box but that would probably add up to a lot of attenuation. First, see the pictures--- as you can see, the box is metal and soldered and the connections are as it came to me. Since my first message, I have ask some questionsit seems that it came this way with a junked 65Mcs Micor that had been in paging ervice -that's all I know and I'm still mystified-what is it and what was it used for? Maybe its time to make some bench measurements. Many thanks, Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing
I agree. Let's let this die. Scott - List Co-Owner Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Ken Arck wrote: Oh, this is not going to end well :-) Ken
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1/2 or 7/8 coax needed
Larry--- What is a 300 foot length of good condition 7/8 hard line worth to you? I'm in the SF bay area---I won't ship but maybe you can find somebody that will pick it up here--- What ever your offer, sale will be up to the approval of a local repeater group here that owns it. Scott Original Message - From: Larry Watkinson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:36 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 1/2 or 7/8 coax needed Yes hard line, thanks. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:18 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1/2 or 7/8 coax needed At 10:03 PM 6/27/2010, Larry Watkinson wrote: I am in need of 1/2 or 7/8 coax. I live in Olympia, WA and I am willing to pick up within 100 miles or pay shipping to Olympia, WA. --Larry, when you say coax, you probably mean hardline, correct? As there are many types of hardline, you need to be a bit more specific. Ken -- -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2967 - Release Date: 06/28/10 06:37:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing
It's not a state that is doing this. The OP indicated it was MED (Your version of the FCC) I looked up his call. This fellow is in New Zeland. Apparently that is where this taxation is taking place. Remember: For every law that is passed there is one less freedom we will NEVER get back!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 La Rue Communications wrote: Could not find the original post, so I wanted to ask, what state is currently being taxed, or does it apply to the entire Country? (I am aware the FCC regulates Nation-wide, but some states are covered differently IIRC.) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* skipp025 mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 11:44 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing Kevin. ZL1KFM spar...@... wrote: Plan was to build 3 remote RX sites and feed it back to the main site (4th RX) and expand the coverage. However our MED (Your FCC) decided to charge for every repeater in the country, this included Amateur repeaters. Tax revenue crazy Governments don't realize how much damage their plain greed does to innovation, education, creativity and growth. s.
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mystery Box
Hello All-- I have a black metal box (about 2x3x7) here labeled : Motorola 1D83000E 209933 7109 Part # 80D103 Machine screw hold down studs on one side and a string of solder terminals on the other side labeled IN, 100,200,300-to 900, 50, 100 and OUT and a couple of GND's. What is it?---I don't know where I got it and I am mystified Thanks much, Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Astron RS50 Power Supply
I've had enough of this guy. He's gone. You're all welcome. Scott - List Co-Owner Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 kevin valentino wrote: *Hey you still owe me 3 # bucks for sending you a Uniden key!* Hope the whole world knows know! you just blew me off?!!! it was over a year ago at least!* sent you several emails. guess if you can't afford a couple bucks then you should not to try to make yourself out to mister want to be!Which for a couple bucks is nothing!!!Guess you can't be* *trusted! Mr. Mike Morris! Wa6ilg, so impressed, no code! wannabie!!! yes you are!!!* --- On *Sun, 6/20/10, Mike Morris /wa6...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Mike Morris wa6...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Astron RS50 Power Supply To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 6:23 PM At 11:22 AM 06/20/10, you wrote: Hi Guys, I am trying to download a schematic on this site for the RS50M Power Supply and keep getting a 404 Error on each attempt on all the supplies. Any ideas? Did you use the email link on the 404 page to tell the guys at repeater-builder? I just checked the RS50 links and they all seem to work... Let me know which link doesn't work and I'll fix it. You might want to read the repair and modification notes on the Introductory Information page. At the least you should add the missing compensation cap and the missing lock washers. Make sure the negative side of the supply is NOT connected to the case. Eric WB6FLY posted a informative note about that a while back. It's reproduced on the Introductory Information page. According to the schematic the main diodes in the RS-50 is the 1N1184A. International Rectifier calls it a 40 amp diode. What brand is in your unit? I rebuilt an RS50 a couple of years ago and used a pair of the 1N2129A (60 amp diode). If I were to do it over again I'd use a 100a diode like the 1N3288 that I use in the RS-70. Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Repeater / ACC Controller
Don't even bother to look in your own back yard, Eh?? (Folks, I *have* to rib him, he's a local and has been to the RB shop MANY times!!) I have one!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 terry_wx3m wrote: I'm about to interface a ACC RC-85 to a VHF Mastr II Repeater (station, not mobile) Do I understand correctly that although in most cases, you would remove all cards except the 10 volt regulator, with the ACC you must leave the Repeat Audio card in to get squelch gated RX audio? If so, does anybody have a spare specimen of such a card? Terry wx3m.te...@gmail.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II Repeater / ACC Controller
Ummm... Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 terry_wx3m wrote: You were on vacation and I was lonely --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman n3...@... wrote: Don't even bother to look in your own back yard, Eh?? (Folks, I *have* to rib him, he's a local and has been to the RB shop MANY times!!) I have one!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 terry_wx3m wrote: I'm about to interface a ACC RC-85 to a VHF Mastr II Repeater (station, not mobile) Do I understand correctly that although in most cases, you would remove all cards except the 10 volt regulator, with the ACC you must leave the Repeat Audio card in to get squelch gated RX audio? If so, does anybody have a spare specimen of such a card? Terry wx3m.te...@... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Which Micor RX for Two Meters
Did I do the transmitter as well? (I don't remember. I do so many projects.) Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Lee Pennington wrote: Exactly right, Scott did the coils and castings on mine five years ago.Hasn't been touched since.now the xmitter, well that's another story. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:36 AM, terry_wx3m wx3m.te...@gmail.com mailto:wx3m.te...@gmail.com wrote: Do yourself a favor and send the receiver and $100 to Scott n3...@repeater-builder.com mailto:n3xcc%40repeater-builder.com. Then you will have a receiver that is in the 131-150 range. It is worth EVERY penny. It will exceed book specs. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Tim - WD6AWP tisaw...@... wrote: I have the following Micor receivers. TLD4071B, TLD5781AV, and TLD8271B3. Unfortunately none are in range 2. Which, if any of these would be the best for a receiver on 144.5 Tim WD6AWP -- Always drink upstream from the herd.
[Repeater-Builder] active low COR
Hello to group, What is the advantage of an active low COR. Most I have talked to say they have their controllers set that way, so I set mine that way,plus the Maxtrac I am using as a receiver default is active low. I simulated a power failure to the reciever and the line went low and the transmitter thought it was time to transmit. I also accidently pulled the cord from the controller off the back of the receiver and again a low status and the transmitter thought it was time to transmit. Im not seeing a benefit of a active low COR in those repects. Should I go to active high or since those things dont usually happen often leave it LOW.. Any advice or ideas appreciated.. 73s
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 duplexers
He was running split antennas and is wanting a duplexer so he can use the remaining one that's good. (I read between the lines.) Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 cruising7...@aol.com wrote: Say what? In a message dated 5/27/2010 12:09:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wa2...@taconic.net writes: Does anyone have a set of 220 duplexers that they want to get rid of? We had one of our 220 antennas go bad and don't want to change it. Thanks Stan
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lost 10 volts in a Master II UHF Repeater
Nate Duehr wrote: If you can see through it, the aircraft probably took a few rounds the pilot didn't know about. ;-) --- That reminds me of a story Kevin told about when he worked in a CB shop. A guy came in and said he mounted his radio and now it didn't work. Kevin went out to investigate and found the guy drilled two holes right straight through the radio and used two lag bolts to fasten it to the dash!! It sure wasn't going anywhere in a crash!! Next.. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crossband Repeater - Desense? High Pass Filter Needed?
A few questions to which the answers would be extremely helpful: * What are the frequencies in question? * Are they harmonically related? * How much vertical separation is there between the two antennas on the tower? * Are they directly one above the other? * What is the gain of the two antennas? * Which band is on the top? * Did the system *ever* work without desense, or has something changed? If something has changed: * Are the antennas and feedlines visibly OK? * What sort of feedline is being used? 9913? * Any new neighbors on the hill? * Any recent lightning? A low-pass filter on the LB Tx may help. It could be the harmonics of the LB Tx clobbering the VHF Rx. Have you looked at the output of the LB Tx on a spectrum analyzer in the VHF area? Some (Motorola Micor) LB Tx's have a low-pass filter *after* the PA and before the antenna output. Does your Midland have something similar? This would definitely help suppress the harmonics. If your Midland doesn't seem to have a LPF after the PA and the spectrum analyzer shows lots of noise in the VHF area, I would get a hold of a Micor LB LPF and put it in series and see if that helps. They are designed to be 50 ohms in /out and are rated for 100W or so. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 tritium242 wrote: Hello all. We have a cross band repeater (Midland 100W VHF low w/ 1W VHF high band repeater built in). What we noticed is that in the High Band -- Low Band direction, the high band side will receive the signal, then the low band Tx will key up to repeat the signal. Normally, all works just fine. But at extended distances, the low band TX keying up will deafen the high band side trying to copy the faint signal (from an HT), resulting in a choppy, unintelligible signal at the max distance. This is only with a faint/distant enough signal, like a HT at a distance. In the other direction (low band -- high band), there is a HUGE increase in maximum distance, even with just 1W from the high band Tx going out, since it seems to be not enough power to desense the low band Rx. Long story short, will adding a high pass filter to the high band side to shield the high band Rx from the powerful low band Tx do the trick? Where can one find such a thing? It just has to pass from say, 100-120 Mhz, and block everything below it, and tolerate 1W of Tx power is all. We'd like to avoid using a big, bulky cavity filter if possible, since we don't need monster isolation figures, or high power handling capabilities. Thanks in advance for any ideas! Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lost 10 volts in a Master II UHF Repeater
I would look for a shorted tantalum capacitor hanging somewhere on the 10V rail. If you hook 10V from an outside source to the 10V buss, you'll probably find it's drawing all kinds of current. The 10V regulator circuit will go into fold back before burning up. This is by design. I usually hook a source of 10V at about 1.5A and look for smoke. It's usually one of the tantalum capacitors that starts to smoke. Once it's done smoking, problem solved!! I have lost track of how many shorted tantalums I have had over the years. When they occur in the B+ of the high current PA supply, they simply burn up and th problem fixes itself. The 10V regulator doesn't have enough guts to burn them up, so they stay shorted and wait for someone to find them. Often times it is a cap on the mixer board. Those are fed though a resistor of a few ohms. Good luck, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 w4wsm wrote: I was up on the hill this afternoon loading new firmware into a controller when my UHF Master II went down. Didn't even touch the thing... The PS is working with 15 volts out and the 3 fuses in the front are fine. The 10 volt card checked OK in my spare repeater No 10 volts at all. Any ideas? Ben-W4WSM Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Off-Topic: Shop liability insurance
For those that are on the list that own their own two-way shop: Who do you use for a liability carrier and what is your typical monthly/yearly premium? I have a customer I have been dealing with for about 8 years that has decided they won't do business with anyone that does not have liability insurance on the products they vend. It seems rather stupid to me, but I guess that's what happens when lawyers get involved. Input appreciated. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 7/8 inch Heliax
Hello All Local here in the SF Bay area we have a monthly electronic flea market. I have several lengths of 7/8th inch heliax in near new conditiona couple 300 feet long and the rest long enough to be useful---what should my asking price, per foot, be? Many thanks-- Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF5k - No Tx
That would have helped greatly!!! I found the issue earlier though. I used Bob's article on the RB site about using the MSF-5k without the PA: http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/msf/msf5000-without-pa.html This gave me power out of the LLA. (About 16W) It was pretty easy to figure it out from there - if there's power going to the PA and nothing coming out... Problem is in the PA!! Opened the PA and found a burned trace. Flowed it with solder, plugged the station in and the same trace vaporized again. It turns out the coupling capacitor between the final driver stage and the load balancer shorted out!! Replaced it with one scavenged from a Micor and all works well. Thanks for all those that helped me in my quest. I'll print this new procedure and put it in my manual for future reference. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 ve7fet wrote: Hi Scott, Finally got to dig out my MSF manuals for a look. Looking on the schematic, I see JU1 and JU2 being related to the HSR (High Speed Ring) data bus. If this is the JU1 you moved, then it would change the communication path between the SSCB and the TTRC and/or the SECURE board(s). That likely explains the crash on boot when it can't find the modules its looking for since it can no longer talk to them. Here is what my manual (68P81082E20-A) says about Power Control Servicing: When servicing the station, it may be necessary to override the power control circuits to key the station. While this service mode is enabled, SSCB requests to key the transmitter will disregard and power control failure indications. To enable this mode, depress and hold the SELECT/SET switch in the SET position (display cursor should not be active at this time). While holding the SET switch, press and hold the PL DIS/XMIT switch in the XMIT position. When tSt appears in the Status display, release the SET switch first, and then the XMIT switch (station will key after the SET switch is released and until XMIT is released). While this mode is active, the DISABLE LED will flash. Toggle the RESET switch to take the station out of the Power Control Service Mode. The DISABLE LED should stop flashing. Cheers! Lee --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman n3...@... wrote: This station was working as a station before it went dead. In other words, no, it's not hacked up. Can anyone tell me for sure where the service jumper - JU1 is. I found 'a' JU1 on the SSCB board, but it seems relatively hidden for a service jumper. Also, when I move it's position I get an error on the LED display, then the station resets. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF5k - No Tx
Lee, Does your manual include a flowchart for Power control servicing? Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 ve7fet wrote: Hi Scott, Finally got to dig out my MSF manuals for a look. Looking on the schematic, I see JU1 and JU2 being related to the HSR (High Speed Ring) data bus. If this is the JU1 you moved, then it would change the communication path between the SSCB and the TTRC and/or the SECURE board(s). That likely explains the crash on boot when it can't find the modules its looking for since it can no longer talk to them. Here is what my manual (68P81082E20-A) says about Power Control Servicing: When servicing the station, it may be necessary to override the power control circuits to key the station. While this service mode is enabled, SSCB requests to key the transmitter will disregard and power control failure indications. To enable this mode, depress and hold the SELECT/SET switch in the SET position (display cursor should not be active at this time). While holding the SET switch, press and hold the PL DIS/XMIT switch in the XMIT position. When tSt appears in the Status display, release the SET switch first, and then the XMIT switch (station will key after the SET switch is released and until XMIT is released). While this mode is active, the DISABLE LED will flash. Toggle the RESET switch to take the station out of the Power Control Service Mode. The DISABLE LED should stop flashing. Cheers! Lee --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman n3...@... wrote: This station was working as a station before it went dead. In other words, no, it's not hacked up. Can anyone tell me for sure where the service jumper - JU1 is. I found 'a' JU1 on the SSCB board, but it seems relatively hidden for a service jumper. Also, when I move it's position I get an error on the LED display, then the station resets. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF5k - No Tx
This station was working as a station before it went dead. In other words, no, it's not hacked up. Can anyone tell me for sure where the service jumper - JU1 is. I found 'a' JU1 on the SSCB board, but it seems relatively hidden for a service jumper. Also, when I move it's position I get an error on the LED display, then the station resets. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 ve7fet wrote: Hi Scott, Do you know if the power sense is hooked up/working? I seem to recall having this issue when trying to use a MSF5k with a non-MSF (Micor) PA. Without the forward/reflected power from a VSWR bridge being fed back into the MSF5k, I am pretty sure the shelf did what you describe. Its been a while since I played with one, but hopefully that gets you going in the right direction. Lee --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman n3...@... wrote: OK, It just may be because it's late on a Saturday night, but I am stumped. I have a UHF 100W secure capable MSF5000 that when I key the TX (doesn't matter how of the GOZILLION ways) the 'PA On', 'PA Key' and 'PA Full' LED's light for a split second and then I get no power out. I am testing into my service monitor, so high ref. power is not an issue. I realize that the power control is a loop and I could be chasing my tail trying to figure out which came first - the lack of power or the lack of drive. I read in earlier posts something about JU1 being a service jumper. JU1 in this station is a 3 position header. When I change positions on that jumper, the station doesn't boot properly, gives an error, then resets. I don't think I am looking at the correct JU1. The manual eludes to many troubleshooting charts that apparently aren't in my book. I think that there were MANY authors and they figured that someone else will write that. For those of you that know me and know what I do, I have never worked on anything this new. I'm used to the good ol' fashioned radios, where a strategically placed alligator lead fixed all your power-set ills. Even a look at page xx in the manual for a troubleshooting flowchart type message would be helpful. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] MSF5k - No Tx
OK, It just may be because it's late on a Saturday night, but I am stumped. I have a UHF 100W secure capable MSF5000 that when I key the TX (doesn't matter how of the GOZILLION ways) the 'PA On', 'PA Key' and 'PA Full' LED's light for a split second and then I get no power out. I am testing into my service monitor, so high ref. power is not an issue. I realize that the power control is a loop and I could be chasing my tail trying to figure out which came first - the lack of power or the lack of drive. I read in earlier posts something about JU1 being a service jumper. JU1 in this station is a 3 position header. When I change positions on that jumper, the station doesn't boot properly, gives an error, then resets. I don't think I am looking at the correct JU1. The manual eludes to many troubleshooting charts that apparently aren't in my book. I think that there were MANY authors and they figured that someone else will write that. For those of you that know me and know what I do, I have never worked on anything this new. I'm used to the good ol' fashioned radios, where a strategically placed alligator lead fixed all your power-set ills. Even a look at page xx in the manual for a troubleshooting flowchart type message would be helpful. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check and see if there are still issues. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 George Henry wrote: It only appears on the front end page, www.repeater-builder.com ... where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem. (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Doug Bade k...@thebades.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that… Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site… not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted…I would say it is real.. Doug From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WANTED: MASTR II Low-Band Receiver
Dick, I have two that I removed from a 10M transmitter I built. I am fairly sure they are 12 split RX's. E-mail me privately if you are still in need. Scott n3xcc at repeater-builder.com Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Richard W. Solomon wrote: Looking for a spare Low-Band Receiver, 12 or 13 split. Failing that, I'll take the whole mobile. Anyone have one they want to part with ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor
My biggest problem with the D-Star repeaters is that they didn't make them analog compatible. Knowing as little as I do about the D-star hardware, it would seem easy enough for Icom to have done so. All they would have needed to do would have been to look at the incoming signal, see if it was analog or digital, and process it correctly. While you'll pry my analog repeater pairs from my cold dead hands; if D-Star machines were analog capable, I'd swap every pair I have to that format tomorrow. As RB (the company) I have been asked about D-star more times than I can count. I tell people it's nice to play with, but what happens in an emergency? If Icom would have made the D-star machines analog capable, those that wanted to (and had D-star radios) could play with it all they wanted to. When an emergency arose and you had 10x as many people out there with analog rigs, the machine would *still* be useful. As it is at present, if an emergency arises, only those with D-star rigs can use a D-star machine. That concept is fine, as long as ALL of your volunteers have D-Star radios! (How many places is this the case?) Around here (Western PA) the governments bought Icom D-Star radios for RACES. I had no objection to that since those radios can be used in analog modes with analog repeaters. Now they are wanting to get D-Star repeaters for RACES and emergency use. I *strongly* object to that since they CANNOT be used in analog modes for emergencies. In my view, you'd be alienating much of your volunteer base that doesn't have the correct equipment right at the point where you need all the help you can get! Of course with the government in the mentality that they have been in the past few years, maybe that's their way of thinning the heard. I *think* I remember someone saying that some other company had made an analog capable D-Star controller? Do any of you list members know anything about that? Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Nate Duehr wrote: On 4/1/2010 9:57 PM, George Henry wrote: I suppose I should clarify: I don't do D-STAR, either. Moral objection to their use of a proprietary codec. You're going to be a while on that soap box. CODECs are almost literally the only way to make any money in the audio streaming, video streaming, and related technology worlds these days... mixed with Patents, you won't see any high-quality free CODECs that can properly encode voice at 4800 bps any time soon. DVSI has ALL of that market locked up until someone hires a pile of PhD's in math and goes after them. And even then, they'd have to make a significant impact on bandwidth utilized or voice quality over either AMBE/AMBE2, or IMBE... to have a chance of dislodging the first player to market... the only player to be written into multiple standards (P25, D-STAR, even the TDMA-based things from Kenwood/Icom... all using DVSI chipsets.) Brilliant of them really... heavily patent-encumbered CODEC, super-high price on using the CODEC in software, sell a $20 (in low-quantity, slightly cheaper in high-quanity) chipset, in a market as small as 2-way radio... they're making a bloody killing. I'd love to know what the development costs of the CODECs were... to see just how lucrative their lock on the market(s) is. But anyway... good luck finding a commercial product that doesn't use their chipset anytime soon. The next CODEC chipset maker is going to be an also-ran forever, unless their mathematicians and algorithms are uber-brilliant. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically? Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Kevin Custer wrote: Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB. http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts! Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Paint
If you decide to paint it, Rustolium makes a spray can paint specifically for use on plastic (says so on the front of the can) that really works well. It comes in lots of colors. Several years ago, I used some to hide some new fiber glass antennasthe paint is still on---no white showing yet. I tested the paint for RF loss by spraying some on a plastic bag which I put into a microwave ovenabsolutely no heating. Scott - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:38 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Paint I picked up a used Telewave antenna ANT150F6-2. It has a minor case of the fiberglass fuzzies and most of the blue paint is gone as it has been in the elements for 15 years. Should I paint it, apply a cote of resin, or just leave it alone? -- Tim, WD6AWP
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: follow up on lightening strike last spring
Since your chief complaint is noise, you need to define the noise. Noise in repeaters can be from MANY other sources besides duplexers. Sure your cans *might* be at fault, but if you're not having desense issues, I would not suspect them right off. Is there anything loose on the tower? What kind of antenna are you using? Is it broke inside? Is anyone else at the site having noise issues, or just you? Is there anything loose on the tower as a result of the lightning? (burnt off grounds, etc.) Is there a PolyPhaser or similar device in the line that might be causing trouble? Will the repeater duplex into a dummy load with no noise? If so, your problem is not in the repeater, interconnect cables, or duplexer. It's in your feedline or antenna. Lightning can do funny things to antennas and feedline that are not readily visible to the eye without disassembly. Busted antennas can cause noise VERY easily. (for obvious reasons) If it *will* duplex into a dummy load without noise, take a dummy load to the top of the tower and see if it duplexes OK in that configuration. If it works with the load in place, your looking at a busted antenna or loose, broken, cracked tower hardware or grounds. Good luck, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Richard wrote: I know its been a long time since I first posed the question on what might be causing the noise we were experiencing after being hit by lightening. After many trips to the Technical shop for testing, we replaced the repeater ( was a vertex 5000, now a Icom ur2000) and are in process of checking out controllers. The duplexers were my big worry. And yes, it would seem that concern wasn't unfounded. We started experiencing a degradation on the receive side of the repeater and then, a leakage from the cans. We had the duplexers checked out with two different service monitors and found nothing! The technician who works on duplexers took ours apart and found only a little bit of carbon, but that was it. they checked out ok. We put them back into service and the noise was there making communications impossible. We are now going to replace them with a 6 configuration instead of the four we have been using. My question to the list is, besides the noise factor and crackling noise, is there any other methode of discovering if the can's are bad or not? Yes, I did and have been losing sleep over this one. I also wish to thank Kevin and the group for all their feedback on my question I put in last summer. You helped more than you know. Rich Ranta K8JX www.w8usa.org Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.146/2627 - Release Date: 01/16/10 19:35:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF 12W Amplifier??
Yes, they were commonly used to drive the bigger 330W Tube-type amplifiers. I have some in the VHF band. You may consider using a Japanese power module. (commonly found in mobile rigs) These modules are VERY efficient and are well suited for solar power applications. They can be found at rfparts.com. You'll need to look for one with the output power you desire at the input power you need. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 tahrens301 wrote: Hi Folks, I've been looking into making a solar repeater (from the Micor repeaters that I already have on hand). Obviously the 100W or 60W amplifiers are out of the question, not only in power, but really in size. I noticed that there is some silkscreen on the transmitter interconnect board (in the big hole to the right of the exciter) that says 12WPA. Didn't know whether Mot actually had put a low power amplifier into the space or not. Anybody know? Thanks, Tim Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.116/2579 - Release Date: 12/21/09 07:36:00
[Repeater-Builder] WTB: Cheap full duplex repeater intrconnect
Who makes a cheap single-user repeater controller/telephone interconnect? I did some searching and found like the RM-20 and the CS800, but they seem to be WAYYY more expensive than needed. Plus I couldn't hardly find a 'buy it here for $xxx' price. I would just use a RC-210 and an AP-1, but to put that much horsepower into a project that is so simple seems like overkill. I *suppose* I could use a RC-1000, but I've never been much of a fan. (sorry Ron) Suggestions? Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Cheap full duplex repeater intrconnect
Didn't look like it when I looked it up. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Chris Curtis wrote: The cs-700 isn't full duplex is it? Chris Kb0wlf From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Juan Tellez Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Cheap full duplex repeater intrconnect If still need one , have a CS-700, in a good working order; $50.00 shipped: http://www.connectsystems.com/support/manuals/cs700.pdf JT De: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de Scott Zimmerman Enviado el: Lunes, 14 de Diciembre de 2009 07:49 a.m. Para: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Asunto: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Cheap full duplex repeater intrconnect Who makes a cheap single-user repeater controller/telephone interconnect? I did some searching and found like the RM-20 and the CS800, but they seem to be WAYYY more expensive than needed. Plus I couldn't hardly find a 'buy it here for $xxx' price. I would just use a RC-210 and an AP-1, but to put that much horsepower into a project that is so simple seems like overkill. I *suppose* I could use a RC-1000, but I've never been much of a fan. (sorry Ron) Suggestions? Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 __ Información de ESET Smart Security, versión de la base de firmas de virus 4687 (20091214) __ ESET Smart Security ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: 12/14/09 07:37:00 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.107/2564 - Release Date: 12/14/09 07:37:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key
I am off to town in a few minuites. I will try a couple of shops on my travels. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Eric Lemmon wrote: Kevin, Please advise the brand name of the key blank, and the key blank identification number, of the duplicate key that that does work. This might be something like Curtis B173. Once we have that valuable information, it can be added to the RBTIP Radio Keys data file. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kevin valentino Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key i just had a copy cut for a tech. tell your key cutter to look again, the one i fought with (a master locksmith) finally found a standard blank staring him in the face on the carousel. the confusion came when i told him it was to open a 2-way, the head was a different shape. --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com wrote: From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 7:13 PM Does anyone have any spare keys for the Uniden Force series of trunk mount mobiles? (1100 series) I managed to borrow one, but the key cutter I stopped at to get a copy made didn't have the correct blank. I was just wondering if someone had about 3 spares or so they would want to part with. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 11/18/09 07:50:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key
Well I struck out at all the places I stopped. I am going to try to get to an actual locksmith shop in a few days and see what they can come up with. I will keep everyone posted. I sent a couple of pictures of the key I have to Mike for publication on the website. Maybe someone will recognize it by appearance. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Scott Zimmerman wrote: I am off to town in a few minuites. I will try a couple of shops on my travels. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Eric Lemmon wrote: Kevin, Please advise the brand name of the key blank, and the key blank identification number, of the duplicate key that that does work. This might be something like Curtis B173. Once we have that valuable information, it can be added to the RBTIP Radio Keys data file. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kevin valentino Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key i just had a copy cut for a tech. tell your key cutter to look again, the one i fought with (a master locksmith) finally found a standard blank staring him in the face on the carousel. the confusion came when i told him it was to open a 2-way, the head was a different shape. --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com wrote: From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 7:13 PM Does anyone have any spare keys for the Uniden Force series of trunk mount mobiles? (1100 series) I managed to borrow one, but the key cutter I stopped at to get a copy made didn't have the correct blank. I was just wondering if someone had about 3 spares or so they would want to part with. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 11/18/09 07:50:00 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 11/18/09 07:50:00
[Repeater-Builder] Uniden Key
Does anyone have any spare keys for the Uniden Force series of trunk mount mobiles? (1100 series) I managed to borrow one, but the key cutter I stopped at to get a copy made didn't have the correct blank. I was just wondering if someone had about 3 spares or so they would want to part with. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Azden PCS-5000 Manual
Walt, Try this link for a owner's manual: http://www.rigpix.com/azden/pcs5000_manual.pdf Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 sjotrollet wrote: Bit off more than I can chew (I'm a 160m CW ham). #2 son just passed his Tech test and I foolishly promised him a Azden PCS-5000 thats part of an estate I'm helping with. This morning, put it on bench to try out. Man, where did a simple CW rig get all those buttons and knobs??. Keeping in mind that I passed my most recent FCC test in 1959, we need help. We have the W7FG manual but its mostly for repairs. There is one page devoted to operating setup. Does the original manual contain more on the operation? Unable to locate anything online. If there is more than one page, can anyone either scan email the operating pages or tell us where to get one? SOS SOS SOS 73 Walt (N4GL) Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.67/2506 - Release Date: 11/16/09 07:43:00
[Repeater-Builder] Min II filters needed
Fellows, I'm on a quest for Minitor II tone filters(KLN7834) for a loal FD. I have a request for CB(371.5) LB(822.2) tones. They'd like to have at least 10 sets. PLEASE check your junk boxes and other stashes and let me know what you have. Thanks, Scott -- Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 digis into 1 antenna
Rick is on the right path: DIPLEXER This is what is used to separate/combine two different frequency spectrum into/from one feedline/antenna Simply wire it up like this: 144.800 --VHF Port-- \ Diplexer --- Dual-Band Antenna / 438.100 --UHF Port-- Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Rick Szajkowski wrote: dipexer just like if you had 2 radios in you car dual band radios have then built in On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:11 AM, asterios sv2...@yahoo.com mailto:sv2...@yahoo.com wrote: it is possible and if it is how can i use one dual band antenna vhf/uhf with two aprs digipeaters at the same time??? first aprs digipeater 1200bps 144.800mhz second aprs digipeater 9600bps 438.100mhz!! it is possible??? two tranceiver in differend band with one antenna dualband?? thanx No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.47/2478 - Release Date: 11/03/09 07:36:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR Exciter Module installed in a Micor Mobile?
Nope, That's not a Micor, it's a GE something or another (Delta??). If you look closely at the wording under the upper part of the card, it ends in 'ic.' I had to go look for myself since I couldn't figure out how, or why one would install a MSR2K exciter in a micor. Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 skipp025 wrote: Forgot to put in the item number... Re: MSR Exciter Module installed in a Micor Mobile? Ebay Item Number 350256769308 I went on a quick Ebay Search to see if I could find an MSR-2000 Manual listed at Auction. I hit on a strange looking MSR-2000 Exciter (transmitter) board inside a Micor Mobile? I had to enlarge the picture, a few double takes until I figured out what I was looking at. Ohhh. now I get it. Off the decafe for the rest of the day... s. Eric Lemmon wb6...@... wrote: Wayne, In compliance with copyright infringement laws, you won't find Motorola manuals on this site while they are still in print. The detailed information on the TRN9689 module is contained in the MSR2000 Control and Applications manual 6881061E40, which is available for purchase from Motorola Parts for about $60. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 TRN9689 R1 Audio board schematic needed.. I am in need of the schematic for the TRN 9689 R1 Audio volume and squelch board. Anyone that has a scanned or PDF file, I would appreciate a copy. I have checked the RB web site and not found it. Thank You Wayne, WA5LUY Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.38/2467 - Release Date: 10/29/09 07:38:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!
Unless Mike looks like the @SS end of a Limo!!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Chuck Kelsey wrote: Well, there's the problem ;-) I was looking for a picture of Mike, not a picture of a car that Mike took. LOL Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* Mark mailto:n9...@ameritech.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:48 PM *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST! Bottom of Page 102… *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *On Behalf Of *Chuck Kelsey Page number please. I skip through the rag most of the time. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* Mark mailto:n9...@ameritech.net Congrats Mike on getting your photo published in this month’s QST! 73 de Mark – N9WYS No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.27/2452 - Release Date: 10/22/09 18:44:00 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
First of all---Kendecom is an obsolete name. The Kendecom line has been updated/improved and has been relabeled as ACS which stands for Advanced Communication Systems which now builds the units. The RF innards are basically the same as the last of Kendecom though improved in some ways-ACS uses a CAT-1000 controller rather than the Kendecom controller and the whole consist, with AC power supply, is packaged in a nice, instrumented, easy to use rack mountable box. I have five of their almost current production repeaters in my present responsibility-three 2 meter units and one each on 220 and 440. They were all purchased with provision for use with RLC-3 controllers--(an added connector arrangement on the rear panel to allow the use of either the internal CAT or a RLC-3 externally). I did have a problem with all at first---ACS had changed a part in their receivers due previous part unavailability, but this was all worked out to both of our advantages and ACS was a pleasure to work with. Anyway, all of these repeaters have since been absolutely reliable, sound very good, have good sensitivity and excellent selectivity. Three of them are on a heavily populated hospital roof---absolutely no interference problems. The only thing that I don't like about the ACS repeater is that they use a 28 volt fed output amplifier which makes 12 volt battery backup a problem unless lower output power when on battery is acceptable. Please feel free to contact me directly if you have questions, Scott, N6NXI - Original Message - From: Jed Barton To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 Hey guys, I'm working with a group and have given them several suggestions for repeaters on 220 including hipro, ge, moto, etc. One thing i don't know much about is the kendecom, and thought i would ask since they want to know. As far as relyability, good, bad? I know their lineup basicly hasn't changed in years. The people i know that have them have been reasonably happy, but figured i would get some input. 220 is a tough band as we all know. Any thoughts guys? Thanks, Jed -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2444 - Release Date: 10/18/09 09:04:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio for repeater use
John--- Just read today's emails---seems to me that we can make the assumption that your repeater system did at one time work to everybody's satisfaction and then went bad with a desense problem. If this is the case. we are looking for something that has degraded from being acceptable--its probably not the time to start redesigning and replacing the system from one end to the other--but to fix the problem -especially as you are under pressure to perform a quick fix. Now, you mention that your system includes a G7-144 (Hustler) antenna and I read in your responses, several comments as to the Hustler antenna not being very good and in fact being the cause of many problems. This is indeed the case when corrosion sets in-The antenna can switch from being a fine performer to a source of totally disabling desense. I say this from experience with the antenna---I've been there and VSWR readings remained normal. My problem was that corrosion between the elements of the G7 antenna resulted in rectification of the transmit energy and generation of wideband noise around the transmit frequency with sufficient noise energy at the receive frequency (which went back down the feedline, through the duplexer and straight into the receiver) to swamp all but the strongest local users. How do you determine if this sort of thing is responsible for your trouble? Replace the antenna with one known to be good or if this can't be easily done-do some iso T testing. Iso T testing can be a bit involved for a beginner and some auxiliary test gear is required which may not be availableyou can read about this in the RB archives. In your case, a simple antenna change may be easierjust about any antenna will do from an AX-50 onjust be sure that the antenna you try is in good shape and the repeater won't care. If I'm on the right track, ask questions---and yes, the G7 antenna can be rebuilt to better than new---been there and done that ---and am in fact still using it now. Scott, N6NXI - Original Message - From: W3ML To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Radio for repeater use Hi All, I am looking at the changing radios on our repeater because of the problems we are having. We are using a GE Mastr II into a 6 can duplexer and up via 1/2 hardline to a G7-144. However, we can not raise the power above 10 watts before de-sense sets in. Also the radio will climb in power level as it gets hot. I set it at 5 watts out and by the end of a half hour net it is up to 12 watts out. In my opinion this is not right. What radio would be good for a 2 meter repeater. Thanks and 73 John, W3ML
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Free to good home
Free to good home: GE Mastr II EC ICOMs. I have more of these than I can count. They are starting to be like tribbles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribble) and are appearing EVRYWHERE!! These are the UHF species (Will work on any band) - Both males and females are available. (TxRx) I won't guarantee you'll get even numbers of Tx/Rx, they'll be on the same frequency, etc.; but you'll definitely get your money's worth!! Just pay shipping and tell me how many you want. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tools
I was thinking it was called a 'spanner nut' also. I used to have a few in my tool box when I worked at Ritron. That's not the correct name. I tried a google search and didn't come up with anything that looked familiar. I have a call in to someone who may know. If I hear back from him, I'll let the list know the *proper* name and how to get some. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Jeff DePolo wrote: Speaking of tools, how about the specialized wrenches that can take the SMA connector nut loose on, oh, say, Yaesu VX 5 or FT-50's? Ray, KB0STN I don't have either of those radios, but are you talking about a spanner wrench or spanner driver? Retaining ring pliers sometimes work too. The ones with interchangable tips are the most versatile. --- Jeff WN3A Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.91/2363 - Release Date: 09/11/09 09:15:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tools
The ones I was thinking of were a screwdriver type. They had a round tip with two 'tits' sticking out. There was also a pin in the center to keep the tool centered on the nut/jack assembly. These were mostly used with 2.5mm and 3.5mm phono (headphone) jacks. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Jeff DePolo wrote: Here are a couple of types of spanner wrenches/drivers of the type I'm talking about.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi
I agree with Andy. Antennas are your friend. Check this out: http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template2/index.html This works with your existing router. Good luck, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Andrew Seybold wrote: Otherwise a second access point at your house with an outdoor yagi attached to it might do the trick—not a second Wi-Fi router but an access point only with an external antenna—they are also easy to come by. Andy Curious; Has anyone tried a passive repeater to extend the distance of internet service. I have a daughter living in a house about 150 yards away. She has little to no service from my n-router. There is nothing to block the signal between us. What about connecting two yagis back to back and putting them on a pole halfway between us. Never tried it on vhf or uhf. Just wondering if anyone has tried it fer a wifi extension. Dennis no5c Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?
Tim Been there and done that! My guess is that you have corrosion in the antenna on top. The corrosion makes a good wide band rectifier of your transmit power and produces sufficient noise at your receive frequency to get back through your duplexer and into your receiver as desense. Actually, come to think about it, the end result of the situation is simular to bad LMR-400. Scott, N6NXI - Original Message - From: tahrens301 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense? Hi All, And the winner is. Door # 2. Put the 2 meter vertical up on the stick at the end of the hard line, the desense was worse! Perfect match at the feed line end. Took dummy load put on far end of hard line no desense. Guess it is the proximity to the antenna. Although about 100', guess the RF is getting back into the box. Gonna set the antenna party for Friday morning. The stuff is going up on the tower (unless somebody can see some flaw in my logic can suggest another test)! Thanks again to all! Tim W5FN -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.75/2340 - Release Date: 09/01/09 20:03:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?
Tim--- I forgot that you spoke of 100' antenna separation. This suggests no duplexer and two feedlines. The meat of my story is still good---a corroded transmit antenna is capable of making and radiating allot of receive frequency noise ---even with between antenna pattern attenuation, there might well be enough to desense your receiver. Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Overstreet To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense? Tim Been there and done that! My guess is that you have corrosion in the antenna on top. The corrosion makes a good wide band rectifier of your transmit power and produces sufficient noise at your receive frequency to get back through your duplexer and into your receiver as desense. Actually, come to think about it, the end result of the situation is simular to bad LMR-400. Scott, N6NXI - Original Message - From: tahrens301 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense? Hi All, And the winner is. Door # 2. Put the 2 meter vertical up on the stick at the end of the hard line, the desense was worse! Perfect match at the feed line end. Took dummy load put on far end of hard line no desense. Guess it is the proximity to the antenna. Although about 100', guess the RF is getting back into the box. Gonna set the antenna party for Friday morning. The stuff is going up on the tower (unless somebody can see some flaw in my logic can suggest another test)! Thanks again to all! Tim W5FN No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.75/2340 - Release Date: 09/01/09 20:03:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2342 - Release Date: 09/02/09 18:03:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD-1694E Micor PA
Instead of going through all of that trouble, why don't you find/buy a 150.8-174 MHz range PA? They work GREAT in the ham band even though they are not spec'd for operation there. You can usually pick them up fairly cheap since they were one of the most popular bandsplits. I have several pulls around here that I'd be willing to sell for about $20 each plus shipping. It would sure save you a lot of time and effort troubleshooting and swapping out parts. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 ve2pf wrote: Hi our club received a few month ago a defective TLD-1694E PA By looking at the web site repeater builder I was able to find out that to make this PA work on 2 meter we would need to replace a lot of stuff, but before doing so we need to fix it.. so we need the part diagram and part list , since we wont be playing with anything else then the PA our club cant afford to buy the whole service manual for the micor repeater line.. anyone can help? Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.50/2296 - Release Date: 08/11/09 06:10:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD-1694E Micor PA
This would be a 100W pull from a mobile. It's the same as used in a station, but you would need to change the I/O connections to make it work on a station heat sink. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 gervais wrote: Scott is this a 100 watts + PA,HD version ? gervais ve2ckn -- From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:44 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD-1694E Micor PA Instead of going through all of that trouble, why don't you find/buy a 150.8-174 MHz range PA? They work GREAT in the ham band even though they are not spec'd for operation there. You can usually pick them up fairly cheap since they were one of the most popular bandsplits. I have several pulls around here that I'd be willing to sell for about $20 each plus shipping. It would sure save you a lot of time and effort troubleshooting and swapping out parts. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 ve2pf wrote: Hi our club received a few month ago a defective TLD-1694E PA By looking at the web site repeater builder I was able to find out that to make this PA work on 2 meter we would need to replace a lot of stuff, but before doing so we need to fix it.. so we need the part diagram and part list , since we wont be playing with anything else then the PA our club cant afford to buy the whole service manual for the micor repeater line.. anyone can help? Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.50/2296 - Release Date: 08/11/09 06:10:00 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.52/2298 - Release Date: 08/12/09 06:09:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS HT recommendation?
I have a few Motorola GP68 FPP Radios I got from China/Ebay. They're great little radios and around 70$ shipped each. Have both UHF and VHF models. http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-GP68-UHF-430-470MHz-2-Way-Radio-Accessories_W0QQitemZ170368673788QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ2_Way_Radios_FRS?hash=item27aac3a7fc_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 The battery they come with isn't very good and its NiCd.. They won't last half a day with constant talking, But you can get Nickle-metal extended batts off ebay for cheap. -Scott On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:19 AM, n6...@cox.net wrote: Don't know about the F40GT but the Icom IC-F40LT had front panel programming capability, so did its VHF counterpart the IC-F30LT. Versions with high serial numbers (above 3 if memory serves) were wide and narrowband capable. I still have one of each new in the box stowed away along with accessories and software. They were built tough and work fine. Some time ago I scanned the keypad programming guide into .pdf and it's been floating around the internet ever since. If anyone is interested in both of these radios and their accessories software contact me off the reflector. Also, let's not forget there are lots of FPP capable UHF XTS3000's and XTS5000's around today as well that work great on GMRS. Gary N6LRV Brian Raker brian.ra...@gmail.com brian.raker%40gmail.com wrote: On the Motorola side for FPP, you'd pretty much be limited to HT1550 (bling, hard to find used, need fpp battery) or JT1000 (hard to find as well, need FPP key/dongle). The Icom IC-F40GT was rumored to have FPP, but I've not seen a valid example surface (and all the tricks I have seen, I've tried and they don't work on my own IC-F40GT). On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM, George Henryka3...@att.netka3hsw%40att.net wrote: Looking for a recommendation for an HT for GMRS use which is either fully keypad programmable, or at least capable of changing tones from the keypad. A tone scan feature would be nice, but not a necessity... George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set
Any handheld or mobile radio will work. A scanner would even be appropriate. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 kerinvale wrote: Ill try that .which is ht you refer to Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ Scott Zimmerman mailto:n3...@repeater-builder.com /*Date:*/ 30/07/2009 11:08:31 /*To:*/ Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com /*Subject:*/ Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set Ian, I did the same thing. (easy to do isn't it!!) I ran the internal tests before and after the repairs and there was a significant difference. That's what I did to be sure it was working OK. I must admit, it's probably not as good as sending it somewhere for calibration, but on a ham budget, it works OK enough. You could always hook your HT to the I/O port and check sensitivity then connect it to the duplex port and see if it's about the same. That's a REAL easy benchmark. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 kerinvale wrote: I accidently hooked up my test leads to my 8921a wrong and introduced high Watts into the duplex out socket .Removed the a23 module and found the cr203 And cr501 burnt out in the duplex switch .I have replaced them and the unit Seems to be working again .Can anyone suggest simple ways to check the Duplex and ant in section to make sure there isn't any more parts damaged . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set
Ian, I did the same thing. (easy to do isn't it!!) I ran the internal tests before and after the repairs and there was a significant difference. That's what I did to be sure it was working OK. I must admit, it's probably not as good as sending it somewhere for calibration, but on a ham budget, it works OK enough. You could always hook your HT to the I/O port and check sensitivity then connect it to the duplex port and see if it's about the same. That's a REAL easy benchmark. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 kerinvale wrote: I accidently hooked up my test leads to my 8921a wrong and introduced high Watts into the duplex out socket .Removed the a23 module and found the cr203 And cr501 burnt out in the duplex switch .I have replaced them and the unit Seems to be working again .Can anyone suggest simple ways to check the Duplex and ant in section to make sure there isn't any more parts damaged . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00
[Repeater-Builder] Too stupid to run Google??
I *know* this is out there somewhere, but apparently I am WAYYY to stupid to run google right now. I have a TM-331 I am making in to a single frequency remote base. Where can I find a COR in this radio? I see TONS of references to using an RBI-1, but I am only using ONE channel. Apparently I have been out in the sun too long or something. Maybe Google is having trouble reading my mind... Yea, That's it!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
[Repeater-Builder] 3450 LPI repeater
This is driving me nuts! I have a working 3450 but want a service manual for when problems crop up. I have checked all the usual places, hoping someone around here has one lying around the shop they don't need anymore and willing to part with it. Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vibrasponder KLN 6209A 123.0Hz..
Carm, I have a '6210 that should work fine. I can bring it to the Somerset hamfest next weekend if you're going to make it. BTW: A good local hamfest for those in the Allegheny region of Pennsylvania: http://www.k3smt.org/hamfest/index.shtml Come up to the mountains - The RF is GREAT!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Carmen J Peca wrote: Hi All, I am in need of a Motorola Vibrasponder KLN 6209A Freq. 123.0 Hz. If anyone has one to sell please let me know. Or if you can steer me in the right direction to try and locate one that would work also. Thanks, Carm,WO3T No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.9/2228 - Release Date: 07/09/09 18:07:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vibrasponder KLN 6209A 123.0Hz..
James, I have indeed (4) 162.2Hz KLN6209's here. Send me a private e-mail and we'll bicker. HIHI Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 James Adkins wrote: I also am in need of 4 of the 162.2 Hz vibrasponders. I have 4 203.5 Hz if anyone needs them, or maybe I could trade them for the frequency I need. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Carmen J Peca carmenp...@comcast.net mailto:carmenp...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, I am in need of a Motorola Vibrasponder KLN 6209A Freq. 123.0 Hz. If anyone has one to sell please let me know. Or if you can steer me in the right direction to try and locate one that would work also. Thanks, Carm,WO3T -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.9/2228 - Release Date: 07/09/09 18:07:00
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Stuff
I have the following Micor stuff available for pickup near San Jose in California--and at the right price tooall free. Two TPN1110B power supplies One TRC1052AB receiver One TTC1041BA transmitterI think that it was on 75.64 mhz. Two matching control chassis with some modulesribbon cable style All the above was said to be operational when it came to me and it has been in dry storage ever since. And, there was a Motorola 1D83000E, PN# 80D103 black box in with the above--about 2.5 X 6 X 1.5-two rows of solder terminals on one side ---one row labeled IN and the other OUT with 100, 200, 300 etc. labeled to the side. What is this assembly? --and direct email off the list would be fine ---Thanks Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional
, and build in a way for THEM to turn it off... over the air preferrably, but a phone line power switch would work too. That'd only be reasonable since they probably already have that feature on THEIR repeater you're linking into... if they built theirs right. Sorry about the rant... if you want REAL ideas on how to do something totally different so you can communicate with the far-away repeater... holler. Plenty of ways to do that without a cross-band junkpile... at least you were looking at relatively good rigs for doing it... compared to that broad-as-a-barn-door front end on that FT-8800! -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:42 +, turboelesjuan kd0...@gmail.com wrote: A little background on what I'm trying to accomplish here; I'm a member of a Ham radio club but do not live in the city the club's repeater resides in. Due to the distance away I'm unable to access the repeater with a handheld radio without the use of a large external antenna and thats what I'd like to change. Installed in my vehicle is a Yaesu FT-8800 mobile that has ability to perform crossband repeat option. Example: A: 145.170MHz (-600khz offset) B: 438.500MHz simplex. I have a UHF Radio that I can set to 438.500MHz simplex to walk around my house and both TALK and RECEIVE traffic to and from the repeater. Basically the radio in my car has the ability to transmit and receive on BOTH frequencies. Heres my question: Is there a controller I can build which has the ability to control TWO Motorola GM300 mobiles w/16pin connectors the same way? Use each radio as a transceiver for bi-directional traffic? I already have both of the GM300 radios and they didn't cost 400$, which my 8800 Did. I want something perm. installed at my house so I can use a small UHF handheld on low power anywhere around my area to chat. Is this possible? Thanks!! -Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples
While I don't have any recordings for you, I can assure you that ALL machines I build have audio responses that sound as close to simplex as possible. When I am finished with a machine, I have a helper in another room talk into the repeater's input while I toggle my receiver between the receiver's input and output frequencies. If they don't sound REALLY close, the machine doesn't leave my shop. There are many things that can lead to distortion in a repeater's audio path. Among these are discriminator response, PL filtering, (if used) controller bandwidth and distortion, and exciter frequency response. The most likely causes of audio response issues are the controller and exciter modulator. Since you describe the audio response as either 'tinny' or 'muffled' that tells me that the audio input response of the controller is not configured properly. *Most* controllers can be used with both discriminator audio or de-emphasized audio. This is often jumper selectable, but sometimes component changes are necessary. I will leave it to the reader to do further research on what these two type of audio are, but suffice to say that most controllers expect to see discriminator audio and have on-board de-emphasis circuitry to make the audio response flat again. If the repeater in question has a 'boomy' sound to it, this is likely a sign of too much low-end audio response. The audio is more than likely being de-emphasized twice inside the system. The best and easiest way to fix this is to remove the extra de-emphasis circuitry. This can sometimes be done on the input circuitry of the controller. If it can't be done there, you may have to look at your Rx audio source. It is common practice to those who don't know any better to use audio from the speaker. It's convenient and it squelches when the repeater is not active. This is a BAD idea. Not only is the audio WAYYY to loud from a speaker's output, it's bound to the volume control. If someone is at the repeater site and decides he wants to listen in on a conversation, there goes the audio setting for the repeater!! Speaker audio is a good example of de-emphasized audio. If the repeater audio sounds 'tinny' it has too many high frequency components. In this case, an additional stage of de-emphasis is required. Again, the easiest way to add this is in the controller's audio circuitry. If the audio is 'muffled', it is probably being processed (compressed) too hard. Inside a transmitter there is circuitry that keeps the audio tamed down and in check to avoid overmodulaton and other band things from happening. This circuitry can only do so much. If it is getting hit with an audio source that is WAYYY to loud, it simply slams it to the ground, hence making it sound bad. This is an over-simplification, but more information on audio processing and how to *properly* set it up can be found in the repeater-builder.com site.: http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/audioprocessing.html (This may be a bit over your head)[sorry Jeff] http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/fmtheorydiscussion.html Sounded like a simple enough question didn't it!! Enjoy, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 tait700 wrote: Hello, Was Wondering if anyone had a link to a site that had samples of talk thru Repeater traffic that would be considered good quality audio ? Maybe i am expecting too much but any of the ones around here that i have heard seem either Muffled or very Shrill, Listening on the input frequency the Audio seems quite reasonable but the Transmit Audio doesn't sound the same and seems a bit average. I realize that the Audio will vary due to the normal constraints of Radio atmospherics but i was hoping for something that doesn't sound like a very cheap tiny AM broadcast radio I would be really interested in discovering just how good normal Analogue speech can sound when it is being passed through something that is properly setup. Apologies if this has been answered before, i searched but couldn't find anything specific. Any info gratefully received, Cheers, Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2214 - Release Date: 07/02/09 05:54:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ACC Controller Power I/O Connector Part Numbers?
Skipp, I *thought* these were KK series Molex plugs that fit .1 header pins. I don't remember off-hand how many pins are needed for each, but try molex #22-01-2xxx. I am looking in the Jameco catalog and a 10 position version is a 22-01-2107. Here is Mouser catalog page 1450. It shows all different types: http://www.mouser.com/catalog/catalogUSD/638/1450.pdf I *think* your looking for figure 'A'. Digikey has them too: http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/B092/P0181.pdf This is Page 181. Page 182 has more. These are just the housings, you'll need to order the pins separate. If you are looking to go from .1 header to a terminal block type interface, you're on your own. I made an adapter board one time that brought the pins out to terminal strips for easy connectivity. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 skipp025 wrote: re: ACC Controller Power I/O Connector Part Numbers? Anyone have a current source and part number(s) for the ACC RC-85 Repeater Controller logic and power jacks/plugs? thanks in advance for your replies. cheers, s. Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2211 - Release Date: 06/30/09 11:37:00
[Repeater-Builder] Dual Receive Antennas
OK, I can't get this straight as to how to do it... one repeater, with duplexer, an omni antenna for TX and RX, and a yagi added for RX in one direction to pull in a critical station. What is the best cheapest way? de NA4IT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 meter repeater
G7 - 144 Interest--- I've had a G7-144 on top of a hospital here for more years than I can figure and all was good until it went bad a few years ago. Corrosion was the problem evidenced by severe desense. On transmit, the corrosion was rectifying and producing wide band noise enough that the repeater receiver saw it as a desensing signal. The interesting thing was that input signals were desensed without additional noise being apparent in the repeater receiver audio. Anyway---The fix I used was to clean and severely scratch up all the metal to metal joints in the antenna and reassemble using liberal amounts of the corrosion preventive goop sold for aluminum electrical connections---Home Depoe and the like all sell it. Then, I ran self tapping screws through all of the aluminum slip joints rather than use the original hose clamps and then I put a couple of layers of high grade heat shrink tubing over all the joints. Oh, and I put sharp burr washers between all of the threaded together pieces too. This was 5 or 6 years ago and the antenna continues to work fine. Scott, N6NXI - Original Message - From: John Poindexter To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 meter repeater Thanks for the tip on screwing the sections together. I am not a real fan of the clamps on an antenna myself. When I out up the HF tri-band, I used the clamps and not regretting it. 73 John, W3ML -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.50/2150 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] what controller to use for repeater and link to be installed 800' in the air?
I have a good used one here. If anyone is interested, please reply direct. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Chris Curtis wrote: ff-800 would be my choice if I had the money http://www.rollanet.org/~joeh chris kb0wlf -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of transistor747 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 9:31 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] what controller to use for repeater and link to be installed 800' in the air? I am soliciting input as to the most reliable and cost effective controller to use on a system that will be installed on a platform 800' up a tower. Getting back up to the system for service is not easily done, nor inexpensive, so reliability is of the essence. The system will be in South West Louisiana.. temps might get as cold as 25 degrees, and as hot as 140 degrees. Thanks! Sam, WA5VDM Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.46/2145 - Release Date: 06/01/09 06:09:00 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.48/2148 - Release Date: 06/01/09 06:09:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Mastr II PLL Exciter
The PLL exciters with the missing daughter boards are more and more common. I have a whole stack of radios with PLL exciters, but missing the daughter boards. (the BPF and audio processor) We at Repeater-Builder have brewed up a BPF module that is a direct replacement for the OEM GE version. I have parts to stuff them for either 136-150, 150-174 or 220-225 MHz. These boards are $20 each. We have also in the process of laying out an OEM style audio processor for the PLL exciter. These will be completed as time permits. These will sell for around $30 each. So, for $50 extra, you could turn a PLL exciter with missing boards into a working unit. These prices may come down depending on how many we can sell. (You know, the more you make the cheaper they become.) We *are* taking pre-orders at this time. If you don't want to wait for the audio processors to be complete, we do have a solution using an adapter board and one of our AP-50 modules: http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ap-50.html The AP-50 runs $50. The adapter board adds $10. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Laryn Lohman wrote: I shoulda picked one up at Dayton... I'm working on a 2M repeater and have replaced the multiplier exciter with a PLL exciter. I love these things-- very clean output and one tuning coil. The PLL exciter I had on hand has no audio processor module, so I'm looking for a complete PLL exciter. Then I'll have spare parts on hand too. Reply to my call at arrl dot net. Thanks! Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.46/2145 - Release Date: 05/31/09 05:53:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: mastr exec II 13 split
Chris, I *think* I have what you need at the shop. I have not returned from Dayton yet. It's a long story, but I am in Indianapolis while my father-in-law recovers from a massive heart attack. (Prayers are always appriciated) I will see what I have around when I get back to the shop and let you know for sure. I am 98% I have (2) '13' split receiver sections. I'm not so sure about the rest right now. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Chris Curtis demo...@rollanet.org To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: mastr exec II 13 split Hey gang, I'd like to source a 13 split mastr exec II. Mobile or station, or even just the modules + pa. Thanks for the bandwidth! Chris Kb0wlf Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Time for that Semi Annual Bath (I mean Dayton is almost here!)
As in years past RB will NOT be setup in the tailgating area. (I know, much to everyone's great dismay) My wife Elisha and I WILL be at the show on Friday - all day. I'd love to say what frequency you might find me on, but if things go like last year, I won't even have a radio on me!! For those that REALLY want to get in touch with me, E-mail me privately and I'll give you my cell #. (Did I *REALLY* say that??) We do have plans to stop by Jeff's lounge and hang out for at least a few minuites. (For those that don't know, Jeff's spaces have become the Un-Official RB list hangout whilst at Hamvention) If anyone is willing, we can *TRY* to coordinate some type of dinner on Friday night for list members going to the show. WARNING: It may be a dinner at Bob Evan's in Fairborn or something, but If you're interested, e-mail me. I'll see what kind of response I get and go from there. Most unfortunately, I don't think I can convince Kevin to make the 6hr. drive to join us. :( Be sure and keep an eye open for anyone in a RB hat. (Those that own one should sport them proudly or be summarily shamed into submission) I will also, more than likely, have a RB shirt on, but it probably won't be visible due to the Parka I'll be wearing. (Reminder to get RB logo'd parka for next year!!) Skipp: Sorry, but if I can't remember a simple radio, how am I supposed to remember my helmet tower?? I'm sure a good time will be had by all - at least until the brats kick in!! See you all at the show, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 skipp025 wrote: Re: It's almost time for that Semi Annual Bath (I mean Dayton is almost here!) The sights, sounds and smells of Dayton 2009 are coming around the bend. Those of us from the West (left) Coast are eagerly eyeballing the weather reports to see if our plane trips will cluster %*$ through our connecting airports. What's the weekend going to be like in Dayton? One year it rained almost the entire weekend... The Friday night VHF (and above) Weak (and strong) signal Dinner (at the Holiday Inn) is not on this year so a number of us are detouring over to the Amstat banquet. Will you be there..? and are you bringing your yellow plastic safety helmet with the mini tower and yagi beam (antenna) atop? :-) s. Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2110 - Release Date: 05/12/09 06:22:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TASMA 70 cm band coordination - CLOSED!!
THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS OUT OF LINE AND AGAINST LIST RULES!! Per Kevin and my wishes, this topic is now closed. Any further discussion by ANY parties will lead to people being banned from this list. Understood?? Scott N3XCC - List co-owner Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 raffertysec wrote: If it is not wanted here, Joe, stop responding while fanning the flames. SCAROA does not want it here beause it wants a neutral forum where the list owner cannot delete a message and then moderate the user. I've am a member of many Yahoo groups and see this daily. Be part of the in crowd and speak with impunity. But dare you be an outsider your words are subject to removal. Does this list owner have a working relationship with the ARRL and NFCC on this exact issue? No, but SCAROA does. That is THE point and that is the fear. We want NOTHING buried and that is obvious. But it remains a local issue. You're not even in California and have no dog in this fight. THAT is a reason to keep it local. But it seems more to me that you are able to protect your repeater guru here. Exactly why do you keep replying if you have nothing to do with this? Move over to http://scaroa.org. The time spent just building their web site shows that they are serious. Mr. Dengler still has not answered why he made the self-serving statement that TASMA doesn't have a 70cm plan when they have a motion before them to adopt the SCRRBA plan. Mr. Dengler, man up and own up. Do it here, do it on the other list, or do it on SCAROA where your presence would be appreciated. It doesn't have to be a fight, either. Dialogue. Communication. But hiding behind the internet in silence only brings more of the same towards you. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: Sounds like you want it buried on a local list. That's fine. I would like to see what's going on, but I'm not going to join 75 local lists to keep tabs on the various areas. That's the reason for having a national list. My only insistence was that it move from the RB list to the RBC list as desired by the list owner, as the RB list is not for coordination issues. That's why the RBC list was created - to keep the scope the same, but separate the coordination threads from the building threads. As for neutral, it sounds like you don't want a more neutral forum - you want it on a forum where virtually everyone has a direct stake in the matter. Again, that's fine. At this point, I don't care where it goes - just keep it off this list, as it's not wanted here. Joe M. raffertysec wrote: It strikes me as very odd that you insist on keeping this on a Yahoo Group that is nationwide instead of allowing the locals to go to a neutral place.. You don't make a dime off of the advertising here, so what does it matter? I referenced SCAROA two by URL oprior to commenting to you. You even replied to one message. http://scaroa.org. SCAROA has well over 100 repeater owner members that are able to speak with qanonimity until they are ready to speak in their real voice. Most send PM's back and forth but it is a start. This discussion does not need to be on a natiowide group or even a subset of that group. Why do you claim ownership of a topic that you want gone anyway? Take it to SCAROA. They have been working with the ARRL and the NFCC directly. I respectfully ask the moderator to close this thread. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH mch@ wrote: Threaded... Spencer R. Peterson wrote: You have misread and misunderstood his comments. He attempted to direct comments to a more appropriate forum. That's what I was doing - trying to move the discussion from the RB list to the RB Coordination list. Yes, I understand that he was trying to move it to a local list, but if it was a local issue it should have never been put on the RB list which IS a national (actually international) list. Regardless, it was and it should have been immediately moved to the RBC list where the scope is the same but the list is dedicated to issues such as those. This is a repeater builder forums while the web site that he sent you to is a local association that deals with TASMA and SCRRBA. This is not a national issue. Why should the rest of us have to read this stuff? It doesn't concern us. You complain that the discussion is here but then complain that he is trying to move it where it belongs? That doesn't really add up. Where it belongs is the RBC list as opposed to the RB (non-coordination) list if you're going to compare apples to apples. You SHOULD have gone to the web site to see what it was about before asking him what it was about. A website that he only referenced ***AFTER*** I asked? How should I have known what the URL was or even that there WAS a website? The address has been posted several times. Not that I saw. The only
[Repeater-Builder] 7/8 in. Heliax
Hi All--- What is used 7/8 in. Heliax in 100 foot and longer lengths worth per foot these days? I have several lengths that are in very good shape that were donated to a repeater group that I am part of including a couple of 300 footers and need a ballpark value as we can't use all of it---some local hams are showing interest. Many thanks, Scott, N6NXI
[Repeater-Builder] WTB: GE MII Cont. Duty Heatsinks Dead or Alive
All, I am in need of some MII constant duty heatsinks. VHF 3 transistor preferred, but not a requirement. They need not be in working order. All I am looking for is the 1/2 thick plate, tinwork, and heatsink fins. Please respond privately with your asking price. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531
[Repeater-Builder] VHF Propagation Plotter
I've got a friend here that is looking for cheap--take that as free--easy to use , simple VHF repeater coverage prediction program that will work in Windows. If you have a favorite that you think might satisfy, please let me know---either direct or through the group if you think we should all hear about it. Many thanks Scott, N6NXI
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Receiver
If all you are wanting to add is a second receiver, take a look at this simple 2ch voter: http://www.repeater-builder.com/projects/wb2whc.html While not as sophisticated as other voters, it doesn't carry their price tag either. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:11 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Receiver At 4/15/2009 10:45, you wrote: Lance, Mark, Cort, Butch, Bob, Chris, and others, Thanks for the good advice and quick response. I will follow up on the suggestions, and get an idea of the cost. It hadn't occurred to me that I would need a voter. With only this one remote receiver, I thought I could just rely on the controller (ACC RC-850) to accept the audio in accordance with the -850 priorities. Is this not suitable? As others have mentioned there are less complex expensive alternatives, but none are as user friendly as a good voter. I have 1 repeater in my system with 2 RXs: the main RX is at the remote site with the TX, the remote RX is plugged into the link hub at my home. Each uses a separate CTCSS tone, so the users have to pick which RX they want to access. Does the link TX have to identify (amateur service)? I believe it does have to. Officially, yes. In practice, many don't. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Dynamic Range
Might this be the one: http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/albums/Tchaikovsky-1812-Overture-Beethoven-Wellingtons-Vi/ Possibly Mike was confused which album it was on. I'm not sure if this one has the cannons or not. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Dynamic Range That's the one I have. Mike was talking about one featuring the 1812 Overture. Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Mike, I'm not sure if this is the EXACT disc Mike was talking about, but here is Time Warp from Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra: http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/albums/Time-Warp/ This is where they have the disc and MP3's for sale. If you do a search for torrents, there are several available. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Mike Dietrich To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Dynamic Range (WAS: APCO P25 horror stories anyone?) Does anybody have a copy of this TIME WARP CD you are talking about, that they would share ? Sounds neet. Thanks in advance. Mike - Original Message - From: Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Dynamic Range (WAS: APCO P25 horror stories anyone?) Mike, Funny you should mention Telarc... I have the disc titled Time Warp (Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra) The disc has a prominent WARNING on the front label that read: Warning! TIME WARP contains some of the most powerful signal content ever released on a commercial recording. Please refer to the caution notice on Page 10. The Page 10 notice reads: Telarc Digital Compact Discs, especially those containing substantially wide dynamic range, will present an extraordinary challenge to all stereo systems. Certain components - even the finest - may have problems with the most demanding passages. *Damage could result to speakers or other components if the musical program is played back at excessively high levels..* WARNING! Lower levels are recommended for initial playback until a safe level can be determined for your equipment. The first musical passage, called Ascent, starts with what can best be described as a SHARP thump/chime. A friend of mine bought the disk and blew up out speakers the first time he played the disc... Apparently he didn't heed the warning, eh? hehehehe Over the years, my old stereo system has been retired, piece by piece. One of the last to go were me matched pair of Utah HS1-C speakers. I hated to see them go, but then again, my hearing isn't what is was back then, either... so I can't appreciate them like I used to be able to. :-( -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Some thoughts that are even more slightly off topic... 1000 recordings to hear before you die http://www.1000recordings.com/book/ And my stereo is also hollow-state mostly Heathkit but with new filter caps. I remember looking at the output of an early high-end CD player (Sony? I forget) on a scope. It had tremendous dynamic range. Much better then vinyl or even 7.5ips magnetic tape. Totally wasted with todays music. The only thing I could find that would max it out (i.e. run the output from rail-to-rail) was a Telarc 1979 CD of the 1812 Overture featuring REAL cannon. The CD case insert said that the producers were able to track down some of the original type of cannon that would have been used then. And it specifically warned that the recording could damage speakers. The Deutsche Gramophone recording of the same piece is almost as good - both bottomed out my subwoofers. Around the 4th of July some years PBS shows the old WGBH tape of the 1990 (or so) Boston Pops 4th of July show. The later years have the show at night but this is an late afternoon / early evening show and at the right point you can see John Williams picking up a handheld radio that he had on his music stand and cuing the Massachusetts National Guard that was sitting on the far side of the Charles river with multiple 155mm howitzers firing blanks. Not quite the same, but very impressive. They still do it - some years it's the Guard, other
Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Dynamic Range
Mike, I'm not sure if this is the EXACT disc Mike was talking about, but here is Time Warp from Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra: http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/albums/Time-Warp/ This is where they have the disc and MP3's for sale. If you do a search for torrents, there are several available. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Mike Dietrich To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Dynamic Range (WAS: APCO P25 horror stories anyone?) Does anybody have a copy of this TIME WARP CD you are talking about, that they would share ? Sounds neet. Thanks in advance. Mike - Original Message - From: Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Dynamic Range (WAS: APCO P25 horror stories anyone?) Mike, Funny you should mention Telarc... I have the disc titled Time Warp (Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra) The disc has a prominent WARNING on the front label that read: Warning! TIME WARP contains some of the most powerful signal content ever released on a commercial recording. Please refer to the caution notice on Page 10. The Page 10 notice reads: Telarc Digital Compact Discs, especially those containing substantially wide dynamic range, will present an extraordinary challenge to all stereo systems. Certain components - even the finest - may have problems with the most demanding passages. *Damage could result to speakers or other components if the musical program is played back at excessively high levels..* WARNING! Lower levels are recommended for initial playback until a safe level can be determined for your equipment. The first musical passage, called Ascent, starts with what can best be described as a SHARP thump/chime. A friend of mine bought the disk and blew up out speakers the first time he played the disc... Apparently he didn't heed the warning, eh? hehehehe Over the years, my old stereo system has been retired, piece by piece. One of the last to go were me matched pair of Utah HS1-C speakers. I hated to see them go, but then again, my hearing isn't what is was back then, either... so I can't appreciate them like I used to be able to. :-( -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Some thoughts that are even more slightly off topic... 1000 recordings to hear before you die http://www.1000recordings.com/book/ And my stereo is also hollow-state mostly Heathkit but with new filter caps. I remember looking at the output of an early high-end CD player (Sony? I forget) on a scope. It had tremendous dynamic range. Much better then vinyl or even 7.5ips magnetic tape. Totally wasted with todays music. The only thing I could find that would max it out (i.e. run the output from rail-to-rail) was a Telarc 1979 CD of the 1812 Overture featuring REAL cannon. The CD case insert said that the producers were able to track down some of the original type of cannon that would have been used then. And it specifically warned that the recording could damage speakers. The Deutsche Gramophone recording of the same piece is almost as good - both bottomed out my subwoofers. Around the 4th of July some years PBS shows the old WGBH tape of the 1990 (or so) Boston Pops 4th of July show. The later years have the show at night but this is an late afternoon / early evening show and at the right point you can see John Williams picking up a handheld radio that he had on his music stand and cuing the Massachusetts National Guard that was sitting on the far side of the Charles river with multiple 155mm howitzers firing blanks. Not quite the same, but very impressive. They still do it - some years it's the Guard, other years it's the Army, other years it's appropriate era cannon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/antydiluvian/2178640689/ You can hear the cannons in this video of the last few minutes of the 2006 performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzL_BY39vf0 Unfortunately you can't see much. Eleven civil war cannons (about a minute and a half) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSyOumYb0wY The Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force Eastern Army Band and 1st Artillery Unit use 105mm cannons: (about 4 min) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-4SRvGUtn8 (watch the flagmen giving cues in the second round of shots) BTW, how many folks know that the 1812 Overture (full title: Festival Overture The Year 1812 in E flat major, Opus 49) is about France invading Russia during the Napoleonic Wars? Despite being a staple
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: [Hamvention] Events - Request For Input
I remember after last year's event we had talked about getting a club space(s). A snip from the Hamvention.org website: A special area of the fleamarket is dedicated to the clubs. Club spaces are $100.00 for 4 spaces. I'll be damned though if I can find the application form for club spaces. If anyone is interested in pitching in, RB can get 4 spaces for use of list members. Let me know what you all want to do. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: [Hamvention] Events - Request For Input Do we want to schedule a Repeater-Builder dinner @ Dayton or some other similar event? Sounds like now's the time. Bob NO6B To: hamvent...@yahoogroups.com From: KE4WLE ke4...@ke4wle.no-ip.org Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:32:07 - Subject: [Hamvention] Events - Request For Input Reply-To: hamvent...@yahoogroups.com This is a reminder that Hamvention is seeking information about Hamvention-related events! If your group/club/association/organization has an event scheduled around Hamvention and would like it posted on the Hamvention web site (http://hamvention.org/events.php) please contact the Webmaster using the form link located on the Contact Us page (http://hamvention.org/contact.php) To request the placement of an event in the printed program, please contact prog...@hamvention.org. Thanks! R- 73 de ke4wle Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual.
Eric, Thanks for posting this. Now I have 3 card numbers I can look for. Now if I could just find the cards. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual. Thanks to a private message from Chuck Kelsey, I finally located the tech data on the TLN1251A module. The reason why I could not find the modules in any recent Micor station manual is because those sheets were moved to the Micor Control and Application manual 68P81025E60-F shortly before the manuals were discontinued. The attached sheet is at the very end of the CA manual. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 5:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual. Steve, I went through more than a half-dozen Micor station manuals, and did not see the document you describe. Could you please be more specific as to which manuals contain the information about the TLN1251A module? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Card needed - TLN1251A-Manual. Fortunately, the manual for these three cards (PL control, Repeater Control, and Squelch Control) is actually in most Micor station manuals. Not often in the Low Band, non-unified, but is in most manuals. Look for the above three names or options decoder. Its all the same board. I looked, and it was in 8 of the 10 station manuals I have... Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A
Correct. This is the application we are planning on using it for. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Milt men...@pa.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A The typical application is to be able to drop RX PL from the console. Not just to check for co-channel users (ie the monitor function which is reset by PTT) but to go to and stay in carrier squelch even when transmitting until commanded back to PL receive. Hypothetical example: The medivac helicoptor (or your neighboring mutual aid department) does currently have the proper PL for your county. Dropping PL receive lets you hear him transmit and you can reply to him. When the incident is over the PL receive is reenabled. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A Eric, I'm not sure. I found (1) in my stash that I have collected at hamfests and whatnot over the years. I have no idea what model numbers these would have been found in. Knowing Motorola (and my dumb luck) there weren't very many made. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:40 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A Scott, What type of Micor station would use this card? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:18 AM To: motorola-u...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater Builder List Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A I am in need of a few TLN1251 cards. These are more commonly known as private line control modules. They have 2 momentary switches in the front labeled Operate PL and Operate Carrier Squelch. They have 2 tone decoders on board - 1550 Hz and 1450 Hz. If you or anyone you know has any they don't need, let me know. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A
I am in need of a few TLN1251 cards. These are more commonly known as private line control modules. They have 2 momentary switches in the front labeled Operate PL and Operate Carrier Squelch. They have 2 tone decoders on board - 1550 Hz and 1450 Hz. If you or anyone you know has any they don't need, let me know. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A
They *would* if it was me doing the job. This is for the county's radio system, so I need to do it by the book. I mentioned about using some other modules, but others involved were rather persistent that we use the right cards. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Mark n9...@ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A Scott, I have six of the MICOR Four User Control Module - TLN1685A. Might these work for your application? Each reed has an Enable/Disable switch on the front of the card... Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman I am in need of a few TLN1251 cards. These are more commonly known as private line control modules. They have 2 momentary switches in the front labeled Operate PL and Operate Carrier Squelch. They have 2 tone decoders on board - 1550 Hz and 1450 Hz. If you or anyone you know has any they don't need, let me know. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A
Eric, I'm not sure. I found (1) in my stash that I have collected at hamfests and whatnot over the years. I have no idea what model numbers these would have been found in. Knowing Motorola (and my dumb luck) there weren't very many made. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:40 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A Scott, What type of Micor station would use this card? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:18 AM To: motorola-u...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater Builder List Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Card needed - TLN1251A I am in need of a few TLN1251 cards. These are more commonly known as private line control modules. They have 2 momentary switches in the front labeled Operate PL and Operate Carrier Squelch. They have 2 tone decoders on board - 1550 Hz and 1450 Hz. If you or anyone you know has any they don't need, let me know. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone have this happen?
I agree. Here at Repeater-Builder. We use Bomar unless otherwise instructed for all our crystals. I *HAVE* opened the cases of some ICOMs / Elements I have sent for temp. comp. and *YES* they do have capacitors changed. Don't get me wrong I HAVE had some temp. comp. elements from Bomar that would not net after a few years. I attribute this to crystal aging and Bomar has ALWAYS took them back and fixed them at NO CHARGE no matter how old they were. I think all crystal mfg's have had troubles with quality at some time or another. I remember about 5 years or so a few people complaining about ICM's crystals. As with any custom product, things can and will happen with production from time to time. This is especially true with crystals due to their organic nature. From my understanding, just because you grind a piece of quartz to a specific shape, doesn't mean it STAYS that way. Quartz lattices 'age' and change with time. Could you imagine trying to guess how much, and in what direction, a plant would grow in one year; then be able to prune it so it would be the exact shape and size you needed it to be one year from now? Quote from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator Due to aging and environmental factors such as temperature and vibration, it is hard to keep even the best quartz oscillators within one part in 10?10 of their nominal frequency without constant adjustment. In my opinion, the occasional failure of an organic substance that require a 'best educated guess' to 'try and get right the first time' are inevitable. At least the crystal manufacturers have come a long way from grinding their own crystals on a piece of emery cloth for their 40M rigs. (You old timers KNOW what I'm talking about!!) Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone have this happen? At 3/11/2009 05:33, you wrote: Unfortunately my last couple purchases with Bomar are likely to be my last, so, yes, I've had trouble with them. The one crystal was simply cut to the wrong frequency and the other was unstable. I also questioned the temp comp as no caps were changed out. Back to ICM. So much for trying to save a buck. I ordered 5 crystals from Bomar a few months ago. All 5 were perfect. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Fish paper
Bernie--- Home Depot sells a resin paper to the construction trade that is generally used to protect floors during a job. Unfortunately it comes in rolls about 5 in. dia. by about 3 feet wide but it is cheap and tough---I have used it for electrical fish paper. It's pink/brown in color and about half as thick as 15 pound roofing felt. Scott - Original Message - From: dallasreact112 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Fish paper Does anybody know of a good source for fish paper insulating material? I trying to find it available in small quantities. 73 Bernie Parker K5BP -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1984 - Release Date: 03/04/09 19:17:00
[Repeater-Builder] Painting Question
Hello All-- I have need to paint an ingraved aluminium pushbutton The engraving is of the depth and width as used on my early 390. What kind of paint should I use for the button?--the color needed can be satisfied with appliance almond. What do I use for the ingraving fill paint?-the color needed is red. And, ---Do I bake---and other process comments? Many thanks-I'll report my findings-- Scott, N6NXI
[Repeater-Builder] M/A-Comm M7100 Interface
Can anyone out on the list provide pinouts for the accessory connector on a M7100 mobile? I could like to get TX and RX audio as well as PTT and COS. Thanks, Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design
Along these same lines Has anyone on this list built / put into practice a Gray-Hoverman panel antenna? How do they perform? Is it worth building one? Double or single? http://www.casano.com/projects/hoverman/index.html I'm about 70 miles from my target DTV market. (Pittsburgh, PA) NOBODY here can seem to get the Pittsburgh ABC affiliate with their current V/U antenna setups. (WTAE4) I have some people that I am helping get their converter boxes hooked up and working. They are VERY disappointed that they won't be able get their news from channel 4 once DTV has gone into full effect. (They DO have one of the areas BEST news teams - in my opinion.) I'm wondering if a dedicated UHF panel and good UHF only preamp will help the situation. I can get MOST of the other Pittsburgh DTV stations, but WATE's signal just doesn't make it. If you look at their coverage map they are loosing QUITE a bit of territory. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/images/callsigns/WTAE.gif Sure would be nice to get it. Just looking for ideas and comments. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design
This site seems VERY paranoid!! I tried to access it with IE8 and it threw a hissy fit. It said I was trying to download the whole site. I then tried FireFox. I got to the homepage OK enough, but Didn't see much content there without creating a login. Too many hoops to jump through. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Laryn Lohman lar...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design For those interested in bowtie/conical antennas, or dozens of other types for that matter, visit http://www.cebik.com/ Register, then search for the terms, or simply wade through the topics. There's enough data at that site to keep antenna geeks happy for days. Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design
I guess I just have a problem with sites that you need to log-in to see their free information. Imagine if Kevin and I put a log-in requirement on the repeater-builder.com site. Just imagine the flack we'd catch from that!! In my opinion, free is free; no strings attached. While I agree one's information can be 'stolen', that is the risk of publishing any work in a free public environment in the first place. If you look at all of the pages of the RB site, they all have copyrights to their respective authors. This gives the ability of those authors to go after anyone using them for personal gain. My comments were not meant to spur public discussion. They were merely my own personal take on the situation. Let's get back to the issues at hand. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Laryn Lohman lar...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman n3...@... wrote: This site seems VERY paranoid!! I tried to access it with IE8 and it threw a hissy fit. It said I was trying to download the whole site. Scott, I don't know about the problems with IE, but Firefox works fine. Setting up the login one time is a very small price to pay for this site. They went to a login system when W4RNL went SK last spring. Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
My question is this: Are new energy star compliant appliances power factor corrected? In other words: To get the energy star compliance sticker, are they required to put enough capacitance in their product to correct the phase angle to 0? If they are already required to do this for compliance, isn't this going to be a self-correcting situation as time goes on. (Excuse the pun) Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Nathan Bailey n@live.com To: Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor Chuck is right. Typically power factor correction is an industrial issue (not residential). Perhaps the utilities are implementing power factor correction penalties to resi customers in other parts of the country, but not in my neck of the woods. I've put many PFC proposals together for industrial facilities, as I'm an outside salesman for an electrical distributor. Nathan N5REL Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:53:08 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor Your question was already answered. No savings UNLESS the customer is being billed for reactive demand (KVAR). Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org mailto:don%40httpd.org To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor Hello group, I need to chime in here and ask about a device that being sold as an enhancement for saving electrical energy in a residence. The device is called Power-Save 1200 and you can see it at www.power-save.com. From what I can glean from the web site it's a power factor correction device that attaches to the load center wiring panel.via 3 wires; 2 are attached to a dedicated 20 amp 2 pole 220 volt circuit breaker, the other remaining wire is attached to ground. The instructions go on to say that this device is designed to condition all power consumed by inductive loads (electric motors) in the home regardless of installation location. SNIP Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.20/1943 - Release Date: 02/10/09 07:20:00 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
