2008/12/22 Martin Aspeli optil...@gmx.net:
I think the fact that Chameleon now uses repoze.zcml may be. And my
argument is that if you want to both use other parts of the Repoze stack
that use the Zope 3 CA, and you want this minimal set of dependencies,
then you're going to have to make the
Mmmm... I didn't mean for this to get quite so emotional. :)
Chris (and Agendaless) is of course free to do whatever he wants with
BFG. And as I've shown many times, I'm very supportive of the great work
coming out of the Repoze project.
However, if Repoze is aiming to bridge the gap between
Tres Seaver wrote:
Note that one change I would make to the docs is to make using the 'bfg'
namespace *not* the default in the examples; marking each non-Zope
directive with 'bfg:' (in the examples, not necessarily in a real-world
config) would remind people, this is not your father's
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a pure Zope 3 package
that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants to
serialise Zope 3 schema interfaces to/from an XML representation) well,
On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a pure Zope 3
package
that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants
to
serialise Zope 3 schema interfaces
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Paul Everitt wrote:
On Dec 22, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Chris (and Agendaless) is of course free to do whatever he wants with
BFG. And as I've shown many times, I'm very supportive of the great
work
coming out of the Repoze project.
However, if Repoze
Paul Everitt wrote:
On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a pure Zope 3
package
that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants
to
serialise Zope 3
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a pure Zope 3 package
that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants to
serialise Zope 3 schema interfaces to/from an XML
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
If reimplementing something is easy to do (which is generally true
considering we all have Zope's source) and allows you to drop all that
extra baggage that - why not?
Because you have to maintain it forever. Of course, you may not mind
doing that - it'll be a
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
Chris McDonough wrote:
That package is now done...
http://static.repoze.org/zcmldocs
and
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/repoze.zcml/0.1
I've adjusted the trunk of bfg and the trunk of chameleon.zpt to use ZCML
declaration implementations from
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
Chris McDonough wrote:
That package is now done...
http://static.repoze.org/zcmldocs
and
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/repoze.zcml/0.1
I've adjusted the trunk of bfg and the trunk of chameleon.zpt to use ZCML
declaration
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Paul Everitt wrote:
That seems like a false leap.
I freely admit to using hyperbole in my original email to draw out a
debate. :-)
It does bother me a little, though, that the fix seems to be to
fork/re-implement rather than to try and push something downstream.
On Dec 21, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Chris McDonough wrote:
But one thing won't happen: bfg is not going to live
with four inappropriate dependencies forever to service a goal of
fidelity.
Repoze is the place where we co-habitate with the goals of other
projects, such as Zope and Plone. BFG,
On Dec 21, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Paul Everitt wrote:
That seems like a false leap.
I freely admit to using hyperbole in my original email to draw out a
debate. :-)
It does bother me a little, though, that the fix seems to be to
fork/re-implement rather than to try and
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Chris McDonough wrote:
Hanno Schlichting wrote:
Chris McDonough wrote:
Maybe there's some potential to create a set of core ZCML registration
handlers
for utility, adapter, subscriber, and interace that are not actually part of
BFG, but on
On Dec 20, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
Paul Everitt wrote:
On Dec 20, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
As a result of messing around with the ZCA + ZCML outside the
context
of Zope,
I've found that it may be possible to significantly reduce the
number
of egg
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