Re: Basic Configuration (Was: Re: Retro)
Hi, I got to say: in a university environment the image/fixed data path works like a charm. The students (clients) will pretty much mess up a workstation within 3 months. By having a 4BG Ghost image for NT4 and 2k download in under 10 minutes and then restore networking and data if any is the most efficient way to operate for us. Have you ever tried to do a restore from a backup set with 8 DLT members? It's a lot of trips to the tape drive... As far as having IT recommend the way to work in a company/university, I think is the sanest option: Usually you have 1-10 IT guys and 5-600 users. Can you imagine the scenario combinations? Long live server data storage! Cheers, Ben Pam Lefkowitz wrote: On 3/8/2001 1:07 PM, "Julia Frizzell" wrote: Every one of our users is told when they start, and they get frequent reminders, that nothing not in the Documents folder (save their bookmarks) gets backed up. We keep the Documents folder on the desktop so they can get to it easily, and remind them to make aliases instead of putting files/folders on the desktop. Julia, Seems to me that this is all a matter of how the IT is structured and who has ownership and control over data. If the goal is for IT to design and determine how users can and should work, then your setup works fine (assuming, of course, that everyone saves everything to the designated spot). If, on the other hand, users work in a way that gives them freedom to be comfortable in their work environment (therefore, more productive) then your method isn't as effective. I had a client who was determined to have IT own the workflow and have all documents, etc. reside on the servers. I questioned this logic but I never really got an answer as to how they were going to handle it when the their boss lost data because he just couldn't figure out how to navigate the servers to save his stuff or because he just got back from a 3 week business trip and hadn't had time to move his things to the server yet. Frankly, if a missed deadline caused by lost data costs the company a $x-million fine then something is wrong in the IT structure/workflow/strategy. Obviously, you can see where my preference for user support lies...strongly. I believe that IT is there to *support* our users, not to tell them how to best do their job. Therefore, I vote HUGELY in favor of backing up desktops as well as servers. One can never be too protected. Whew, quite a rant that was. Think I'll go out for a walk. Pam --- Pam Lefkowitz, President Core Computing Technologies, Inc. voice:847/675-3513fax: 847/675-3564 Member, Apple Solution Experts/Apple Product Professional Dantz Development Solutions Provider -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retrospect client under VMWARE??
I'm not sure if it makes a diff, but did you install vmware on a raw disk or as one big file? Ben Toby Blake wrote: Hi, One of our users has recently changed over from having a dual-boot win98/Linux machine to a Linux only machine, incorporating a vmware windows 98 partition (look at http://www.vmware.com/ for details). I had believed it would be possible to install the retrospect client on this windows 98 partitions, just as if it was a 'normal' windows 98 installation - it has its own IP address and every other aspect of networking seems to work OK. However, the Retrospect client installs OK but cannot be seen from the server - it gives a 541 error "client not installed or not running". Can anyone shed any light on this? The server is 4.3 for Mac and the client is 5.1. Am I being over-optimistic in expecting it to just work? Thanks Toby Blake University of Edinburgh -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Backup Script settings
Hi all, If I have a script that is suppose to finish at 9:00 am, but it didn't have a chance to go around all the clients yet, can I ask it ( interactively or through script ) to continue until it picked up all the clients, or to go let's say another 1.5 hours? Here are my specs: Here is my hardware: PIII 733, 512MB RAM, 2 x 30GB HDD, Quantum DLT 4000 SCSI Tape Drive. (2nd Quantum DLT 7000 to come sooon) I use Retorspect 5.15 Backup Server with Retro 5.15 Win Clients and 4.2a Mac clients. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering McGill University, Montreal, Canada 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Backup configuration help
Hi all, We have quite a few clients to back up in a window of about 14 hours every night. Currently I am running a single script, that picks up every client during the night, for the duration of one month. Evidently, the catalog is getting quite big and towards the end of the month, the process of matching is quite slow, thus from the 20th of each month, not all clients are reached. I was wondering if splitting the backup in 3 scripts - let's say for client A-H, I-R, S-T, and schedule those accordingly throughout the night would be a viable solution. Of course, this 3 sets would have to be backed up to he same tape. Is this possible? I am open to any suggestions, since this is becoming quite a pain. New hardware is out of the question for now, and I would like to not have to start new sets every 2 weeks or so, since it involves me coming in on the weekend Thanks, Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering McGill University, Montreal, Canada 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Backup configuration help
I'm not sure I understand your suggestion. To run a full bu it takes about 3 DLT4000 tapes (approx. 90GB). I only have one DLT drive, and during the initial full backup I have to come in twice to change tapes. It would be nice to have another two drives If I misunderstood, sorry, but please explain. Thanks, Ben Dan O'Donnell wrote: As you point out, it appears that the size of the catalog is the bottleneck. Changing the cycle from 1 month to 2 weeks (approx.) would be better, but why do you have to set it up to change on a weekend. Why not set it to break on the Monday following the weekend, or some other arrangement that is convenient? At 9:11 AM -0500 on 11/23/00, Ben Mihailescu wrote: Hi all, We have quite a few clients to back up in a window of about 14 hours every night. Currently I am running a single script, that picks up every client during the night, for the duration of one month. Evidently, the catalog is getting quite big and towards the end of the month, the process of matching is quite slow, thus from the 20th of each month, not all clients are reached. I was wondering if splitting the backup in 3 scripts - let's say for client A-H, I-R, S-T, and schedule those accordingly throughout the night would be a viable solution. Of course, this 3 sets would have to be backed up to he same tape. Is this possible? I am open to any suggestions, since this is becoming quite a pain. New hardware is out of the question for now, and I would like to not have to start new sets every 2 weeks or so, since it involves me coming in on the weekend -- -- To subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: How can I stop an NT service before backup?
How about you run an AT job with "net stop service" before your backup starts and then you run an AT job with "net start service" after retrospect is done. HTH, Ben "Kraut, David" wrote: I have a backup job that backs up several servers during the night. One of these servers has a SQL database that will not back up properly unless the NT SQLBase service is stopped first. I went thru the support docs and they all talk about external scripting? Is there a simple way that I can stop a Windows NT service prior to backup of this server and then start it up again after backup. I know about the "net stop service" command but have no clue how to implement within retrospect. Also, I'm backing up 10 servers in this script so it would best if I could stop this service immediately before backing the SQL server and then start the service immediately after backup of this server is complete. Sometimes my backup jobs run into the morning hours so I can't afford to have this service stopped during the entire script. Any ideas?? TIA!! David -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
Hi James, I completely understand the Windows side of the client update. If you run the update with the manual reboot client the old version will still be active until after the first reboot. I've updated 59 clients last night before my nightly backup with the manual reboot client (Win) and they have all been backed up correctly over night. So, Dantz, it would be nice to put the Mac Client Update software in a "Macintosh Manual Reboot" folder, rather then just "Macintosh". Essentially it would have avoided us having this discussion, and therefore be more efficient. Cheers, Ben James Keagan wrote: I think what Irena was trying to say is that you must manually restart the Mac clients before the change takes effect. The Windows clients have two separate .rcu files: one that will automatically restart the computer and one that requires a manual reboot. And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Windows client service completely stop until reboot, while the Mac client can continue operating even if there has not been a reboot (it will still be the same version, though)? J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Mihailescu Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:26 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Mac Client Uptdate
Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate
Does this happens automatically, or can I have an option to restart manually like the Win boxes? Thanks, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
Hi Irena, Thanks, that's good news. Sorry if I seemed harsh. It's better to be clear than sorry. Cheers, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, They will require a manual reboot; Retrospect won't automatically reboot a Mac client after updating. Thanks for keeping me in check ;) Irena From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:26:16 -0400 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
OS9 and Retrospect 4.3
Hi all, I just installed Retrospect 4.1 + 4.3 upgrade on a Performa 6360 running OS9. Everything seems to be OK, the only problem is that when I go to Devices, I see the following line for my Quantum DLT4000 SCSI drive: ID #2Quantum DLT4000CCIE(no driver) I gather my Mac can see the drive, but Retrospect is not loading the driver for it? If anyone has had the same experience, maybe you can share the fix. TIA, Ben -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: changing client password?
From your backup server go to the Configure tab, click Clients. Choose your client pc and under the tools tab use the Set Password option. On the client side I don't think there's an option for changing the password. HTH, Ben andrew wrote: Client 5.1: is there any way to change the password...short of re-installing the client? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Retrospect Error Messages
Hello all, I run a nightly backup using Retrospect 5.11 on a Win2k Server machine (member server only). I backup a mixed (Mac and Win) bunch of clients. Generally backups are going good (no major errors), yet I get sometime error 1017 - insufficient permissions on some of the Mac files. Nothing has changed on the clients from a permission prospective and applications are closed. I looked through the error messages posted on the web by Dantz and read the manual, yet I didn't find anything about this error message. Did anybody experience this before? Any clue what *exactly* it means in terms of fixing it? Thanks, Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
