Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
There's a PDF version in the folder that you downloaded. If you don't have the folder any more, it's available on our website: http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=latest_docs HTH! Irena Solomon If I downloaded my copy of Retrospect, where would I find this guide? Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4 Full instructions for doing an Emergency Restore start on page 114 of the Retrospect for Windows User's Guide. You may also select "Prepare for Emergency Restore" from the Window menu in Retrospect; this will list what you will need to restore and allow you to print full Emergency Restore instructions. Searching for "Windows Restore" in our knowledgebase now also returns these instructions, as well as several platform-specific notes. Regards, Irena Solomon Dantz Technical Support 925.253.3050 Try our Searchable Knowledgebase at: http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/ These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too. Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the software and the hardware. Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety of situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the software for the user. Thanks for your response, Malcolm. I will be updating our recovery procedures to reflect your suggestions. Hi Scott, on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I never thought of that. Temporary directories sound like they will save my butt. Brilliant response! Would I use temp directories with win95/98? Absolutely! When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running Win9x I just format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the Retrospect Client ... all in a temp directory. Reboot, add the client to the server and restore over the network. In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine the way I want it then do a full backup. I can then use this backup to configure new machines or fix broken ones. Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but I find using Retrospect over the network more convenient. In an office which has several hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with Retrospect to just do a full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied" configuration can be re-applied when necessary. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too. Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the software and the hardware. Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety of situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the software for the user. Thanks for your response, Malcolm. I will be updating our recovery procedures to reflect your suggestions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Malcolm McLeary Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:12 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4 Hi Scott, on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I never thought of that. Temporary directories sound like they will save my butt. Brilliant response! Would I use temp directories with win95/98? Absolutely! When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running Win9x I just format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the Retrospect Client ... all in a temp directory. Reboot, add the client to the server and restore over the network. In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine the way I want it then do a full backup. I can then use this backup to configure new machines or fix broken ones. Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but I find using Retrospect over the network more convenient. In an office which has several hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with Retrospect to just do a full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied" configuration can be re-applied when necessary. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Information Alchemy Pty Ltd ACN 089 239 305 Canberra, Australia Malcolm McLearyMobile: 0412 636 086 Managing Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using Outlook Express 5.0 for Macintosh. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
Full instructions for doing an Emergency Restore start on page 114 of the Retrospect for Windows User's Guide. You may also select "Prepare for Emergency Restore" from the Window menu in Retrospect; this will list what you will need to restore and allow you to print full Emergency Restore instructions. Searching for "Windows Restore" in our knowledgebase now also returns these instructions, as well as several platform-specific notes. Regards, Irena Solomon Dantz Technical Support 925.253.3050 Try our Searchable Knowledgebase at: http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/ These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too. Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the software and the hardware. Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety of situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the software for the user. Thanks for your response, Malcolm. I will be updating our recovery procedures to reflect your suggestions. Hi Scott, on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I never thought of that. Temporary directories sound like they will save my butt. Brilliant response! Would I use temp directories with win95/98? Absolutely! When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running Win9x I just format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the Retrospect Client ... all in a temp directory. Reboot, add the client to the server and restore over the network. In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine the way I want it then do a full backup. I can then use this backup to configure new machines or fix broken ones. Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but I find using Retrospect over the network more convenient. In an office which has several hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with Retrospect to just do a full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied" configuration can be re-applied when necessary. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
If I downloaded my copy of Retrospect, where would I find this guide? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Irena Solomon Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:11 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4 Full instructions for doing an Emergency Restore start on page 114 of the Retrospect for Windows User's Guide. You may also select "Prepare for Emergency Restore" from the Window menu in Retrospect; this will list what you will need to restore and allow you to print full Emergency Restore instructions. Searching for "Windows Restore" in our knowledgebase now also returns these instructions, as well as several platform-specific notes. Regards, Irena Solomon Dantz Technical Support 925.253.3050 Try our Searchable Knowledgebase at: http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/ These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too. Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the software and the hardware. Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety of situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the software for the user. Thanks for your response, Malcolm. I will be updating our recovery procedures to reflect your suggestions. Hi Scott, on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I never thought of that. Temporary directories sound like they will save my butt. Brilliant response! Would I use temp directories with win95/98? Absolutely! When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running Win9x I just format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the Retrospect Client ... all in a temp directory. Reboot, add the client to the server and restore over the network. In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine the way I want it then do a full backup. I can then use this backup to configure new machines or fix broken ones. Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but I find using Retrospect over the network more convenient. In an office which has several hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with Retrospect to just do a full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied" configuration can be re-applied when necessary. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
Wow. I never thought of that. Temporary directories sound like they will save my butt. Brilliant response! Would I use temp directories with win95/98? ___ Scott Dunn Systems Engineer South Shore Building Services www.southshoreinc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Malcolm McLeary Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:40 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4 Hi Scott, on 27/1/01 10:35 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the following question: Your hard drive fails. You want to pop in a new drive and restore the system to the original condition. What do you do? 1. On the new disk Install Windows NT into a temporary directory (e.g. wintemp). 2. Since this thread was about the Backup Server, install Retrospect into a temporary directory. 3. Rebuild the catalog of the most recent backup of the Backup Server. 4. Restore from the Backup Server backup (i.e. from local backup device). 5. Reboot. 6. Delete the temporary directories. The Backup Server should now be as it was at the time of the last "self" backup. On a Mac this so much easier as you can always boot from the Retrospect CD (or an external hard disk, or zip or jaz, etc, etc) and omit steps 1 and 2 above ... this is not so easy with Windows platforms as there are so many system configuration variables which make it basically impossible for Dantz to ship a bootable restore CD for Windows. However I heard somewhere that Dantz are working on a solution which will allow a bootable restore CD to be created by Retrospect for the specific system. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Information Alchemy Pty Ltd ACN 089 239 305 Canberra, Australia Malcolm McLearyMobile: 0412 636 086 Managing Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using Outlook Express 5.0 for Macintosh. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
Hi Scott, on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I never thought of that. Temporary directories sound like they will save my butt. Brilliant response! Would I use temp directories with win95/98? Absolutely! When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running Win9x I just format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the Retrospect Client ... all in a temp directory. Reboot, add the client to the server and restore over the network. In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine the way I want it then do a full backup. I can then use this backup to configure new machines or fix broken ones. Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but I find using Retrospect over the network more convenient. In an office which has several hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with Retrospect to just do a full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied" configuration can be re-applied when necessary. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Information Alchemy Pty Ltd ACN 089 239 305 Canberra, Australia Malcolm McLearyMobile: 0412 636 086 Managing Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using Outlook Express 5.0 for Macintosh. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
A quick thanks to those who replied with your information and suggestions. I appreciate it. The rebuild of the server went smoothly and Retro was a breeze as I thought it would be. The only problem was a hard drive h/w issue which I resolved by replacing it with a spare. Thanks again maz -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the following question: Your hard drive fails. You want to pop in a new drive and restore the system to the original condition. What do you do? ___ Scott Dunn Systems Engineer South Shore Building Services www.southshoreinc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Irena Solomon Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 9:17 AM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4 If you already have an active system on that machine, you can't do a *complete* restore, as Retrospect won't write over the active system file. You could restore your entire Program Files folder though, which would restore the Retrospect program and preferences. You'd then not only have to rebuild catalogs but recreate all your scripts and log in any clients as well. Best Regards, Irena Solomon Dantz Tech Support I know that this sounds like the long way, but isn't it possible to start from ground zero? I mean that if I start with a clean install of NT 4.0, then install Retrospect, then have Retrospect rebuild a catalog of the tape, from there I could do a complete restore of the Server, right? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
What operating system? On the Mac, you can boot from the Retrospect CD, I believe. I usually take that opportunity to do a clean install though. On the Mac, I'll do a clean install of the current OS and then restore all the files into a sub-folder and then move them out as needed. All of the Windows machines that I manage have a ZIP drive and can boot from it, so I've created a Boot ZIP disk for each machine that also has the Retrospect Client software installed. Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the following question: Your hard drive fails. You want to pop in a new drive and restore the system to the original condition. What do you do? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
Hi Scott, on 27/1/01 10:35 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the following question: Your hard drive fails. You want to pop in a new drive and restore the system to the original condition. What do you do? 1. On the new disk Install Windows NT into a temporary directory (e.g. wintemp). 2. Since this thread was about the Backup Server, install Retrospect into a temporary directory. 3. Rebuild the catalog of the most recent backup of the Backup Server. 4. Restore from the Backup Server backup (i.e. from local backup device). 5. Reboot. 6. Delete the temporary directories. The Backup Server should now be as it was at the time of the last "self" backup. On a Mac this so much easier as you can always boot from the Retrospect CD (or an external hard disk, or zip or jaz, etc, etc) and omit steps 1 and 2 above ... this is not so easy with Windows platforms as there are so many system configuration variables which make it basically impossible for Dantz to ship a bootable restore CD for Windows. However I heard somewhere that Dantz are working on a solution which will allow a bootable restore CD to be created by Retrospect for the specific system. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Information Alchemy Pty Ltd ACN 089 239 305 Canberra, Australia Malcolm McLearyMobile: 0412 636 086 Managing Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using Outlook Express 5.0 for Macintosh. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
Hi Mary Ann, on 25/1/01 12:47 PM, Mary Ann Zhang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to reinstall NT4 server on a backup server and then reinstall Retrospect Server v5. I have some concerns about the existing retro config and scripts being retained and the 100 or so clients still being able to access the new install. If I backup the existing Dantz directory and the catelog directory and then restore these after retro has been reinstalled will all be (ie: retro scripts and backups) as it now?. Has anyone on this list have experience with this? If so do you have any tips and traps you know of. Given my lack of experience with this process any help would be greatly appreciated. I have had to do this a couple of times (with WinNT Workstation not Server) and all I did was backup the Dantz directory and catalog directory before reaching for the OS Restore CD and rebuilding the machine. After reinstalling Retrospect I just replaced the Dantz directory and catalog directory with the copies I saved. It worked for me. Play it safe ... do a full backup of the backup machine (and a safety) before embarking on this exercise. If you have a full backup all will go well ... bad things usually happen when you don't have a backup. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Information Alchemy Pty Ltd ACN 089 239 305 Canberra, Australia Malcolm McLearyMobile: 0412 636 086 Managing Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using Outlook Express 5.0 for Macintosh. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
I know on macs that rebuilding a catalog from scratch is a long process for one tape. Much less more than one. I know that this sounds like the long way, but isn't it possible to start from ground zero? I mean that if I start with a clean install of NT 4.0, then install Retrospect, then have Retrospect rebuild a catalog of the tape, from there I could do a complete restore of the Server, right? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Retro Server 5 on NT 4
Hi All I need to reinstall NT4 server on a backup server and then reinstall Retrospect Server v5. I have some concerns about the existing retro config and scripts being retained and the 100 or so clients still being able to access the new install. If I backup the existing Dantz directory and the catelog directory and then restore these after retro has been reinstalled will all be (ie: retro scripts and backups) as it now?. Has anyone on this list have experience with this? If so do you have any tips and traps you know of. Given my lack of experience with this process any help would be greatly appreciated. Mary Ann Zhang Computer Systems Officer Faculty of HealthSciences Room 403 HS3 Bundoora Campus La Trobe University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
