Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Malcolm McLeary]

Hi Robin,

On 25/7/00 6:50 AM, Robin Mayoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>My point is that the -23 has been known to be caused by extension conflicts.
>It may be worth while to attempt to reproduce the problem with basic Apple
>extensions to see if the problem goes away.

After disabling Virex 5.9.1, Retrospect 4.3 was able to access the 
storage sets created on the weekend and perform a full restore to my 
server.  :-)

Does Virex 6.1 cause the same problem?

Cheers,  Malcolm


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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Malcolm McLeary]

Hi Matthew,

on 25/7/00 5:42 AM, Matthew Tevenan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Basically, if you're getting *most* any negative error up through -5XXX in
> Retrospect, it's is being mapped directly from the OS. That's why Pat looked
> to a list of Mac OS errors to figure out what this meant.

OK, I guess thats in the doc somewhere.  ;-)

> All of Pat's suggestions are good ones. I assure you that larger than 2 GB
> file backup sets were tested thoroughly and do work correctly. I'd estimate
> they were the number one customer suggestion of recent memory, so we knew
> they'd better! If you're still having trouble, please e-mail
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only other machine I have with enough spare disk space to test this is
my wife's iBook ... I installed Retrospect 4.3 and it worked fine.  Actually
the throughput was almost 4 time what my old 8500 does ... could be 10baseT
vs full duplex 100baseT but I guess the 8500 is just showing its age.

Hence I conclude that there is an issue with the disk subsystem in my 8500
... ACARD PCI IDE/66 adapter and IBM 20GB IDE disk.  :-(

Sounds like a good opportunity simulate a disk failure and perform reformat
and do a full restore from backup.

Cheers,  Malcolm

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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Robin Mayoff]

Oops, I didn't mean on sending that out to the group.

My point is that the -23 has been known to be caused by extension conflicts.
It may be worth while to attempt to reproduce the problem with basic Apple
extensions to see if the problem goes away.

Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks

Robin Mayoff
Senior Technical Support Specialist
925-253-3050 (voice)
http://www.dantz.com
http://www.betterbackup.com

> From: Robin Mayoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:29:11 -0700
> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge
> 
> We have seen another cause for this error, from the DSL:
> 
> NCE (No Change Expected) for the Macintosh
> 
> In the last week I have had two customers report -23 errors when doing a
> backup with DiskFit Direct.
> 
> In both cases the customers had recently installed Virex 5.9.1.
> 
> I ran a test.  If the Virex 5.9.1 control panel is installed, you will get
> -23 errors during backup.
> 
> The only workaround is to Turn off Virex Control Panel or don't use DiskFit.
> 
> the -23 could be an extension conflict for the user.
> 
> Robin
> 
>> From: Matthew Tevenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:42:57 -0700
>> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge
>> 
>> Malcolm,
>> 
>>>> In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates
>>>> that
>>>> the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
>>>> Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}
>>> 
>>> Interesting ... Retrospect reported the error, why did you make the leap
>>> to MacOS errors?
>> 
>> Basically, if you're getting *most* any negative error up through -5XXX in
>> Retrospect, it's is being mapped directly from the OS. That's why Pat looked
>> to a list of Mac OS errors to figure out what this meant.
>> 
>> All of Pat's suggestions are good ones. I assure you that larger than 2 GB
>> file backup sets were tested thoroughly and do work correctly. I'd estimate
>> they were the number one customer suggestion of recent memory, so we knew
>> they'd better! If you're still having trouble, please e-mail
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> Matthew Tevenan
>> Technical Support Specialist
>> Dantz Development Corporation
>> 925.253.3050 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>>> From: Malcolm McLeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:09:21 +1000
>>> To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge
>>> 
>>> Hi Pat,
>>> 
>>> On 23/7/00 4:35 PM, Pat Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates
>>>> that
>>>> the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
>>>> Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}
>>> 
>>> Interesting ... Retrospect reported the error, why did you make the leap
>>> to MacOS errors?
>>> 
>>> I have no idea if its relevant, but Finder will happily duplicate the
>>> storage set so Finder can open the file and read it.
>>> 
>>>> Sounds like it could be a problem with the disk driver on your disk in this
>>>> case. What formatting software was used to format the ATA disk? Did it see
>>>> it as a SCSI drive or an ATA drive?
>>> 
>>> Only use the Apple product ... Drive Setup ... the "get info" on the disk
>>> says its v8.1.4.  The card makes ATA disks appear to be on just another
>>> SCSI bus.
>>> 
>>>> Have you tried creating a greater than 2GB file set on a connected SCSI
>>>> hard
>>>> drive on this computer and does it work?
>>> 
>>> No the biggest SCSI drive I have is only 2GB ... I guess I could string a
>>> couple of them together as a stripe.
>>> 
>>> I will verify that the disk driver is the latest, and also the bios for
>>> the card.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,  Malcolm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>> 
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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Matthew Tevenan]

All,

I've replied to Craig off-list about this, but I'd thought I'd clue you all
in on what might be going on here. Retrospect 4.3 introduced significant
changes in the way it deals with high-end, high-speed SCSI cards. This was
done in an effort to speed up Retrospect's communication with these drives
and really take advantage of these cards' capabilities, which Retrospect was
not fully doing in version 4.2 and earlier.

Therefore, the (in many cases) significant speed increase is more likely to
bring out problems. These problems, though they may have always been
present, may have only surfaced now thanks to the newly increased speed.
That's what I suspect happened in Craig's case, and may occur in others.
Once again, I encourage anyone receiving similar symptoms with high-end SCSI
cards and fast drives to contact Dantz technical support at 925.253.3050 or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Thanks,

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
925.253.3050 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> From: Craig Gaevert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: TLCD Architecture
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:05:59 -0700
> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge
> 
> Pat Lee wrote:
> 
>> What is the configuration of your setup (computer, OS, SCSI card, other SCSI
>> peripherals)? Is the Sony DAT drive a narrow (50 pin) or wide (68 pin)
>> drive? What type of SCSI card is it connected to (narrow or wide)? Is this
>> first drive connected to the SCSI card or is there another external drive
>> connected it before it.
> 
> Yes, I should have posted that information with the original post.
> 9600/184mb w/ Newer G3 card, OS 9.0.4.  The drive is an APS enclosure Sony
> DDS-4 68 pin
> wide off a Adaptec 2940UW (bus 2, id 1).  The primary drive (internal) for the
> machine
> is also on this card (SCSI bus 2, id 6).
> 
> SCSI config looks like this:
> Bus 0
> id 0  IBM HD
> id 3  CD-ROM
> id 5  Zip
> Bus 1
> id 4  Yamaha CDR 4260
> Bus 2
> id1  DDS-4 tape [Sony SDT-1]
> id 6  Quantum Atlas 9gb
> 
> Other cards in the machine: Keyspan USB, Asante 10/100 Ethernet, Keyspan
> Serial Port
> Expansion card (not in use), the video card.
> 
> As soon as I have a chance I intend to do the extensions thing looking for
> conflicts
> there, but since this thing hangs on the SCSI scan, I'm not sure that that is
> worth the
> time.
> 
> --
> Craig Gaevert, A.I.A.
> Architect
> TLCD Architecture
> Santa Rosa, CA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Robin Mayoff]

We have seen another cause for this error, from the DSL:

NCE (No Change Expected) for the Macintosh

In the last week I have had two customers report -23 errors when doing a
backup with DiskFit Direct.

In both cases the customers had recently installed Virex 5.9.1.

I ran a test.  If the Virex 5.9.1 control panel is installed, you will get
-23 errors during backup.

The only workaround is to Turn off Virex Control Panel or don't use DiskFit.

the -23 could be an extension conflict for the user.

Robin

> From: Matthew Tevenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:42:57 -0700
> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge
> 
> Malcolm,
> 
>>> In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates that
>>> the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
>>> Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}
>> 
>> Interesting ... Retrospect reported the error, why did you make the leap
>> to MacOS errors?
> 
> Basically, if you're getting *most* any negative error up through -5XXX in
> Retrospect, it's is being mapped directly from the OS. That's why Pat looked
> to a list of Mac OS errors to figure out what this meant.
> 
> All of Pat's suggestions are good ones. I assure you that larger than 2 GB
> file backup sets were tested thoroughly and do work correctly. I'd estimate
> they were the number one customer suggestion of recent memory, so we knew
> they'd better! If you're still having trouble, please e-mail
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Matthew Tevenan
> Technical Support Specialist
> Dantz Development Corporation
> 925.253.3050 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> From: Malcolm McLeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:09:21 +1000
>> To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge
>> 
>> Hi Pat,
>> 
>> On 23/7/00 4:35 PM, Pat Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates that
>>> the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
>>> Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}
>> 
>> Interesting ... Retrospect reported the error, why did you make the leap
>> to MacOS errors?
>> 
>> I have no idea if its relevant, but Finder will happily duplicate the
>> storage set so Finder can open the file and read it.
>> 
>>> Sounds like it could be a problem with the disk driver on your disk in this
>>> case. What formatting software was used to format the ATA disk? Did it see
>>> it as a SCSI drive or an ATA drive?
>> 
>> Only use the Apple product ... Drive Setup ... the "get info" on the disk
>> says its v8.1.4.  The card makes ATA disks appear to be on just another
>> SCSI bus.
>> 
>>> Have you tried creating a greater than 2GB file set on a connected SCSI hard
>>> drive on this computer and does it work?
>> 
>> No the biggest SCSI drive I have is only 2GB ... I guess I could string a
>> couple of them together as a stripe.
>> 
>> I will verify that the disk driver is the latest, and also the bios for
>> the card.
>> 
>> Cheers,  Malcolm
>> 
>> 
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> 
>> Information Alchemy Pty Ltd
>> ACN 089 239 305
>> Canberra, Australia
>> 
>> Malcolm McLearyMobile: 0412 636 086
>> Managing Director  Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Matthew Tevenan]

Malcolm,

>> In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates that
>> the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
>> Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}
> 
> Interesting ... Retrospect reported the error, why did you make the leap
> to MacOS errors?

Basically, if you're getting *most* any negative error up through -5XXX in
Retrospect, it's is being mapped directly from the OS. That's why Pat looked
to a list of Mac OS errors to figure out what this meant.

All of Pat's suggestions are good ones. I assure you that larger than 2 GB
file backup sets were tested thoroughly and do work correctly. I'd estimate
they were the number one customer suggestion of recent memory, so we knew
they'd better! If you're still having trouble, please e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
925.253.3050 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> From: Malcolm McLeary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:09:21 +1000
> To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge
> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> On 23/7/00 4:35 PM, Pat Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates that
>> the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
>> Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}
> 
> Interesting ... Retrospect reported the error, why did you make the leap
> to MacOS errors?
> 
> I have no idea if its relevant, but Finder will happily duplicate the
> storage set so Finder can open the file and read it.
> 
>> Sounds like it could be a problem with the disk driver on your disk in this
>> case. What formatting software was used to format the ATA disk? Did it see
>> it as a SCSI drive or an ATA drive?
> 
> Only use the Apple product ... Drive Setup ... the "get info" on the disk
> says its v8.1.4.  The card makes ATA disks appear to be on just another
> SCSI bus.
> 
>> Have you tried creating a greater than 2GB file set on a connected SCSI hard
>> drive on this computer and does it work?
> 
> No the biggest SCSI drive I have is only 2GB ... I guess I could string a
> couple of them together as a stripe.
> 
> I will verify that the disk driver is the latest, and also the bios for
> the card.
> 
> Cheers,  Malcolm
> 
> 
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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Craig Gaevert]

Pat Lee wrote:

> What is the configuration of your setup (computer, OS, SCSI card, other SCSI
> peripherals)? Is the Sony DAT drive a narrow (50 pin) or wide (68 pin)
> drive? What type of SCSI card is it connected to (narrow or wide)? Is this
> first drive connected to the SCSI card or is there another external drive
> connected it before it.

Yes, I should have posted that information with the original post.
9600/184mb w/ Newer G3 card, OS 9.0.4.  The drive is an APS enclosure Sony DDS-4 68 pin
wide off a Adaptec 2940UW (bus 2, id 1).  The primary drive (internal) for the machine
is also on this card (SCSI bus 2, id 6).

SCSI config looks like this:
Bus 0
id 0  IBM HD
id 3  CD-ROM
id 5  Zip
Bus 1
id 4  Yamaha CDR 4260
Bus 2
id1  DDS-4 tape [Sony SDT-1]
id 6  Quantum Atlas 9gb

Other cards in the machine: Keyspan USB, Asante 10/100 Ethernet, Keyspan Serial Port
Expansion card (not in use), the video card.

As soon as I have a chance I intend to do the extensions thing looking for conflicts
there, but since this thing hangs on the SCSI scan, I'm not sure that that is worth the
time.

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Architect
TLCD Architecture
Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Malcolm McLeary]

Hi Pat,

On 23/7/00 4:35 PM, Pat Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates that
>the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
>Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}

Interesting ... Retrospect reported the error, why did you make the leap 
to MacOS errors?

I have no idea if its relevant, but Finder will happily duplicate the 
storage set so Finder can open the file and read it.

>Sounds like it could be a problem with the disk driver on your disk in this
>case. What formatting software was used to format the ATA disk? Did it see
>it as a SCSI drive or an ATA drive?

Only use the Apple product ... Drive Setup ... the "get info" on the disk 
says its v8.1.4.  The card makes ATA disks appear to be on just another 
SCSI bus.

>Have you tried creating a greater than 2GB file set on a connected SCSI hard
>drive on this computer and does it work?

No the biggest SCSI drive I have is only 2GB ... I guess I could string a 
couple of them together as a stripe.

I will verify that the disk driver is the latest, and also the bios for 
the card.

Cheers,  Malcolm


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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Pat Lee]

On 7/21/00 5:49 PM, "Craig Gaevert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, 4.3 is a bust for me.  During script execution it scans the deives and
> freezes when it hits my tape drive (Sony DDS-4, scsi bus 2 device 1).
> 

What is the configuration of your setup (computer, OS, SCSI card, other SCSI
peripherals)? Is the Sony DAT drive a narrow (50 pin) or wide (68 pin)
drive? What type of SCSI card is it connected to (narrow or wide)? Is this
first drive connected to the SCSI card or is there another external drive
connected it before it.

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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Pat Lee]

On 7/22/00 10:30 PM, "Malcolm McLeary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Craig,
> 
> On 22/7/00 10:49 AM, Craig Gaevert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Well, 4.3 is a bust for me.  During script execution it scans the devices
>> and freezes when it hits my tape drive (Sony DDS-4, scsi bus 2 device 1).
> 
> I can't say that I share your experience because 4.3 works for me as 4.2
> did, but I cannot RESTORE from storage sets which are > 2GB.
> 
> Actually it does create the storage set and it compares ok during script
> execution, but later I cannot browse the contents, I cannot rebuild the
> directory, and I cannot restore from it.  Whenever I attempt any
> operation on the Storage Set I get an error dialog;
> 
>Couldn't open catalog Qube - Archive error -23 (unknown)
> 
> The Operations Log would indicate that all went well ...
> 
> +Normal Backup using Server - Cobalt Qube at 22/7/2000 6:21 PM
> To backup set Qube - ArchiveŠ
> 
> -22/7/2000 6:21:22 PM: Copying archive
> 22/7/2000 7:27:21 PM: Comparing archive
> 22/7/2000 8:36:27 PM: Execution completed successfully
> Completed: 402 files, 2.9 GB
> Performance: 42.9 MB/minute (44.0 copy, 41.9 compare)
> Duration: 02:15:05 (00:00:13 idle/loading/preparing)
> 
> Quit at 22/7/2000 8:36 PM
> 
> As Storage Sets > 2Gb is a new feature  I decided to actually go through
> the exercise of checking the snapshot, the contents, and the ability to
> RESTORE ... glad I did!
> 
> Just to be sure that I hadn't done something wrong or that there was a
> problem with my system I performed the same exercise on two volumes < 2GB
> ... they worked fine.
> 
> My backup computer is an 8500, 233MHz 604e, 128MB RAM, 20GB IDE HD (via
> IDE PCI card), builtin DDS2, running MacOS 9.0.4.  The "server" is a
> Gateway Microserver (i.e Linux on MIPS, running Netatalk).
> 
> I was so looking forward to having storage sets > 2GB on the MacOS
> version :-(

In pulling up the error message on the Mac OS errors list, it indicates that
the disk driver is not cooperating with the file manager. {-23openErr
Requested read/write permission doesn't match driver's open permission,}

Sounds like it could be a problem with the disk driver on your disk in this
case. What formatting software was used to format the ATA disk? Did it see
it as a SCSI drive or an ATA drive?

Have you tried creating a greater than 2GB file set on a connected SCSI hard
drive on this computer and does it work?

Pat



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Re: 4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Malcolm McLeary]

Hi Craig,

On 22/7/00 10:49 AM, Craig Gaevert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Well, 4.3 is a bust for me.  During script execution it scans the devices
>and freezes when it hits my tape drive (Sony DDS-4, scsi bus 2 device 1).

I can't say that I share your experience because 4.3 works for me as 4.2
did, but I cannot RESTORE from storage sets which are > 2GB.

Actually it does create the storage set and it compares ok during script
execution, but later I cannot browse the contents, I cannot rebuild the
directory, and I cannot restore from it.  Whenever I attempt any
operation on the Storage Set I get an error dialog;

 Couldn't open catalog Qube - Archive error -23 (unknown)

The Operations Log would indicate that all went well ...

+   Normal Backup using Server - Cobalt Qube at 22/7/2000 6:21 PM
 To backup set Qube - ArchiveŠ

-   22/7/2000 6:21:22 PM: Copying archive
 22/7/2000 7:27:21 PM: Comparing archive
 22/7/2000 8:36:27 PM: Execution completed successfully
 Completed: 402 files, 2.9 GB
 Performance: 42.9 MB/minute (44.0 copy, 41.9 compare)
 Duration: 02:15:05 (00:00:13 idle/loading/preparing)

 Quit at 22/7/2000 8:36 PM

As Storage Sets > 2Gb is a new feature  I decided to actually go through
the exercise of checking the snapshot, the contents, and the ability to
RESTORE ... glad I did!

Just to be sure that I hadn't done something wrong or that there was a
problem with my system I performed the same exercise on two volumes < 2GB
... they worked fine.

My backup computer is an 8500, 233MHz 604e, 128MB RAM, 20GB IDE HD (via
IDE PCI card), builtin DDS2, running MacOS 9.0.4.  The "server" is a
Gateway Microserver (i.e Linux on MIPS, running Netatalk).

I was so looking forward to having storage sets > 2GB on the MacOS
version :-(

Cheers,  Malcolm


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4.3 and the bleeding edge

[Craig Gaevert]

Well, 4.3 is a bust for me.  During script execution it scans the deives and freezes
when it hits my tape drive (Sony DDS-4, scsi bus 2 device 1).  Funny but 4.2 was rock
solid.  G.

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Architect
TLCD Architecture
Santa Rosa, CA
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