Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-04 Thread Florentino Sanchez Bajo
, Florentino Sánchez De: "François Goutenoire" Para: "rietveld l" Enviados: Jueves, 4 de Marzo 2021 10:41:05 Asunto: Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis Dear Rietveld users, Thank you very much for all your responses, it will help us move forward on the subjec

Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-04 Thread François Goutenoire
%. The micro-absorption effect has been minimized (mu of the internal standard is closed to the compound). But with some electronic transmission analysis no amorphous is observed. The question is : Does a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak shape could influence quantitative analysis ? François

Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread kleeberg
ect on quantitative analysis Dear Rietveld users, I have some industrial compound presenting a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak shape (eta=1.1 with HighScore). When we calculate the amorphous content after an internal standard addition, the result is 40%. The micro-absorption effect has been minimized

Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread Mendenhall, Marcus H. (Fed)
0%. The micro-absorption effect > has been minimized (mu of the internal standard is closed to the compound). > > But with some electronic transmission analysis no amorphous is observed. > > The question is : Does a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak shape could influence

RE: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread Julian Richard Tolchard
-Original Message- From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of François Goutenoire Sent: onsdag 3. mars 2021 13.34 To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis Dear Rietveld users, I have some industrial compound presenting a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak

AW: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread Uwe Kolitsch
equ...@ill.fr [mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] Im Auftrag von Wörle Michael Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. März 2021 15:32 An: rietveld_l@ill.fr Betreff: AW: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis Dear François, Maybe you have a strongly disordered system. Depending on the type of disor

AW: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread Wörle Michael
: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 13:34 An: rietveld_l@ill.fr Betreff: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis Dear Rietveld users, I have some industrial compound presenting a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak shape (eta=1.1 with HighScore). When we calculate the amorphous content after an internal

Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread Jeff Nicolich
Does a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak shape could > influence quantitative analysis ? > > François > > -- > > * > Pr. Francois GOUTENOIRE > e-mail: francois.gouteno...@univ-lemans.fr > Tel: 0

Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread Bish, David L
ian peak shape could influence quantitative analysis ? François ++ Please do NOT attach files to the whole list <mailto:alan.he...@neutronoptics.com> Send commands to <mailto:lists...@ill.fr> eg: HELP as the subject with

Re: Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread Reinhard Neder
not see that, then the quantitative analysis is certainly misleading. Best Reinhard Neder Am 03.03.21 um 13:34 schrieb François Goutenoire: Dear Rietveld users, I have some industrial compound presenting a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak shape (eta=1.1 with HighScore). When we calculate

Hyper-Lorentzian effect on quantitative analysis

2021-03-03 Thread François Goutenoire
standard is closed to the compound). But with some electronic transmission analysis no amorphous is observed. The question is : Does a strong hyper-Lorentzian peak shape could influence quantitative analysis ? François

Re: Alumina standard for quantitative analysis

2018-01-24 Thread David L. Bish
inexpensive), but you can evaluate it yourself. Regards, David On 1/23/2018 1:05 AM, Davide Levy wrote: Hi I would like to buy alumina standard to use for XRD quantitative analysis. I looked in NIST website and it finished.  Sigma-aldrich sells it but is too expensive. do you know other

R: Alumina standard for quantitative analysis

2018-01-23 Thread Marco Taddei
<rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr> per conto di Fabrizio Guzzetta <fabrizio.guzze...@gmail.com> Inviato: martedì 23 gennaio 2018 13:25 A: Davide Levy; rietveld_l@ill.fr Oggetto: Re: Alumina standard for quantitative analysis davide, you can look the same dealers for neutron diffraction as we

Re: Alumina standard for quantitative analysis

2018-01-23 Thread Fabrizio Guzzetta
escribió: > Hi > > I would like to buy alumina standard to use for XRD quantitative analysis. > I looked in NIST website and it finished. Sigma-aldrich sells it but is > too expensive. > do you know other suppliers? Or other quantitative analysis standards? > > T

Alumina standard for quantitative analysis

2018-01-22 Thread Davide Levy
Hi I would like to buy alumina standard to use for XRD quantitative analysis. I looked in NIST website and it finished. Sigma-aldrich sells it but is too expensive. do you know other suppliers? Or other quantitative analysis standards? Thanks Dr. Davide Levy, Ph.D. Director of XRD

quantitative analysis - perovskites - preferred orientation

2014-02-06 Thread Łukasz Kruszewski
Dear Madam/Sir(s), I am performing Rietveld analysis for a sample containing perovskites (CaTiO3 and SrTiO3). When putting-in a preferred orientation (PO) correction (100 direction, as the crystals are cubic-like), I obtain better Rwp and GOF i.e. chi-squared values (9.63 and 1.5, respectively)

Re: quantitative analysis - perovskites - preferred orientation

2014-02-06 Thread Leonid Solovyov
Dear Lukasz, First of all, in the majority of Rietveld programs the uniaxial preferred orientation (such as [100]) can not be handled adequately for cubic systems since the programs normally generate only one symmetrically equivalent hkl for a diffraction peak. In DDM, for such cases, I

Re: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-29 Thread Radovan Cerny
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi Blaise In Bragg-Brentano mode, sample spinning does nothin for PO. This is because the diffraction vector is normal to the sample surface, and sample spinning rotates along this vector. That's wrong! As I have already written, the empirical PO corrections

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-29 Thread Daniel Chateigner
hi all, not only fibre like, but single component fibre, and with the fibre axis parrallel to the sample normal (i.e. cyclic fibre. this is very restrictive and generally does not correspond to the real texture. Contrarilly to what has been said here or there, the March-Dollase does not ensure PO

Re: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Leonid Solovyov
*** --- On Mon, 10/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Quantitative analysis To: Rietveld_l@ill.fr Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 3:48 PM Dear all, I have this question

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Martin
Sorry to disagree. Experience tells me otherwise - the March-Dollase correction has nearly always led to poor quant results for me. It most certainly cannot be applied safely. Martin -- M Vickers Dept of Chemistry UCL Subject: Re: Quantitative

Re: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Radovan Cerny
Subject: Re: Quantitative analysis Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:53:20 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rietveld_l@ill.fr Dear Mario, One more possible problem of applying preferred orientation corrections in QPA

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Omotoso, Oladipo
Subject: RE: Quantitative analysis Dear Mario, Please tell me a little about the data collection conditions you used for this work:- How was the sample prepared (hand ground, micronised in McCrone mill ) What was the tube target Cu, Co, other ?? Cheers Ian Madsen

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Whitfield, Pamela
: (613) 991 2384 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Leonid Solovyov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 28, 2008 5:53 AM To: Rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: Quantitative analysis Dear Mario, One more possible problem of applying preferred orientation corrections in QPA

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread David L. Bish
results for me. It most certainly cannot be applied safely. Martin -- M Vickers Dept of Chemistry UCL -- Subject: Re: Quantitative analysis Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:53:20 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rietveld_l@ill.fr Dear Mario

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread mariomacias
Madsen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:48 AM To: Rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Quantitative analysis Dear all, I have this question, I have been refined one mixture (of well-know percentage composition

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Mibeck, Blaise
: Quantitative analysis I agree that it's always best to avoid preferred orientation, but that is easier said than done on a routine basis. I have personally had good luck with the M-D PO correction on many known samples, as long as the PO was not severe. However, I imagine that Mario's

Re: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Radovan Cerny
]; rietveld_l@ill.fr *Subject:* RE: Quantitative analysis I agree that it's always best to avoid preferred orientation, but that is easier said than done on a routine basis. I have personally had good luck with the M-D PO correction on many known samples, as long as the PO was not severe

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Omotoso, Oladipo
: RE: Quantitative analysis Dear all, the well-known data are: CaCO3 (20%), CaF2 (35%), SiO2 (1%), Al2O3 (20%), and FeCO3 (24%). The data obtained without PO are: CaCO3 (24%), CaF2 (36%), SiO2 (1%), Al2O3 (17%), and FeCO3 (23%). The data obtained with PO are: CaCO3 (19%), CaF2 (32%), SiO2 (2

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread mariomacias
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 28, 2008 8:24 AM To: Rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: RE: Quantitative analysis Dear all, the well-known data are: CaCO3 (20%), CaF2 (35%), SiO2 (1%), Al2O3 (20%), and FeCO3 (24%). The data obtained without PO are: CaCO3 (24%), CaF2 (36%), SiO2 (1

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Martin
Spinning the sample doesn't reduce preferred orientation much. It does, however, improve ones counting statistics very nicely. Martin M Vickers Dept. of Chemistry UCL 20, Gordon Street London WC1E 0HX Subject: RE: Quantitative analysisDate: Tue, 28 Oct

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-28 Thread Matthew.Rowles
Fax: +61 3 9562 8919 (site) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mibeck, Blaise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 01:25 To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: RE: Quantitative analysis I am learning QPA and am worried about PO. I wonder why sample

Quantitative analysis

2008-10-27 Thread mariomacias
Dear all, I have this question, I have been refined one mixture (of well-know percentage composition) of CaCO3, CaF2, SiO2 and Al2O3, with preferential orientation in CaCO3 (104) and CaF2 (111) with good results. When I add to the mixture FeCO3 and I refine with preferential orientation (104),

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-27 Thread Kurt Leinenweber
and Biochemistry Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-1604 phone (480)-965-8853 fax (480)-965-2747 *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:48 AM To: Rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Quantitative analysis Dear all, I have

RE: Quantitative analysis

2008-10-27 Thread Martin
Dear Mario, My experience of quant Rietveld is much the same as yours - poor quant result if using any sort of PO function. Advise as others have here - reduce PO. Capillary geometry may help in many instances but in this case could then have problems with absorption seeing as you will most

RE: Laboratory supplies/equipments for application of the Rietveld Method (quantitative analysis)

2007-10-02 Thread Leandro Bravo
: Re: Laboratory supplies/equipments for application of the Rietveld Method (quantitative analysis)Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:51:00 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the gem dugout for zero background sample holders, and angle/intensity standards. http://www.thegemdugout.com

Laboratory supplies/equipments for application of the Rietveld Method (quantitative analysis)

2007-09-26 Thread Leandro Bravo
Hi All!! I´m searching for some equipments, supplies that could be useful to the application of the Rietveld Method (quantitative analisys) like zero-background sample holders, mill etc... in other words, equipments for sample prepare to avoid preferred orientation, microabsorption, etc..

Re: Laboratory supplies/equipments for application of the Rietveld Method (quantitative analysis)

2007-09-26 Thread David Lee
Try the gem dugout for zero background sample holders, and angle/ intensity standards. http://www.thegemdugout.com/ On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Leandro Bravo wrote: Hi All!! I´m searching for some equipments, supplies that could be useful to the application of the Rietveld Method