John-
Would you mind elaborating on how __PACKAGE__-meta and -setup work?
I was working on new ways to automagically call/include my rose
objects ( ie: include an entire perl namespace at once, not each
individual file ) and hijack the setup registry to push some
information elsewhere.
On Nov 14, 2007, at 3:56 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
On Nov 14, 2007 2:59 PM, Darren Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Or I see something about a company that does online gambling.
That's the one :)
This position requires does require occasionally lifting up to 20
(twenty) pounds
I don't
Anyone else get this when updating?
t/setup...NOK 3/4
# Failed test 'ROSEDBRC 2'
# in t/setup.t at line 22.
# got: 'localhost'
# expected: 'othervalue'
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 4.
t/setup...dubious
Test returned status 1 (wstat
using .765
has_loaded_related ( helpers ) keeps returning false, when the
related item is loaded via a manager with_objects call ( and i know
its via a data::dumper profile )
$obj= $class-load( with_objects=['subclass'] );
print this always returns false .
for
writing with_objects instead of with. it was correct on my code,
just not on the posting.
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I usually get the effect you want in a slightly different way
a) I have
Oasis::Model::Asset::Object::Helpers
b) but I might also have
Oasis::Model::Asset::Object::Helpers_SpecifcNameHere
c) when i need a function in a rose object, i just stuff
On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:34 AM, John Siracusa wrote:
I've added is/is_not operators to QueryBuilder in SVN. Give them a
spin and let me know if they do what you want.
awesome. will test tonight
can't wait to rid the 'clauses' sections from my managers.
// Jonathan Vanasco
will
print the current state of the obj to STDERR. comes up as a 0 every
time. looking at the pg table , it inserts a 0 as well, not an undef.
i must be doing something blatantly wrong here -- and someone will
notice it just looking at the class setup. i hope so.
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, and it is not a 'not_null' col
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my $names= myapp::names::manager-load_names();
foreach my $name ( @{$names-blessed_class_sort_method() } )
{
#do something.
}
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On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:16 AM, David Lloyd wrote:
Is it possible to have separate read and write database connections in
Rose::DB::Object?
For example, I might have read to:
read.db.com
...and...write to:
write.db.com
...is it possible to get any updates/deletes and inserts (and
On Jun 15, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Jeffrey Horn wrote:
I'm wondering if there's any code out there that will generate
Rose::DB::Object's for all tables in a database. I have my own
makeshift
version which will do it for a given table, and the loop to simply
iterate
through tables isn't bad.
On Jun 16, 2007, at 1:11 AM, Jeffrey Horn wrote:
Aw shucks! You guys think of everything! :)
Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for!
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i think thats pretty much straight from the docs
i just converted a micro-app to rose last night, and had that handy ;)
On Jun 5, 2007, at 8:36 AM, John Siracusa wrote:
I made some changes to the error messages in SVN, but I could make
them better if you could give me a concrete example of a call that
produces an error for you, and what you'd like the error to be
instead.
Again, I think I need to see an
= b-new();
$a-b( $b );
right now i'm using the relationship name, because it works. but
thats not the best way.
do column_accessor_value_pairs/column_mutator_value_pairs work for
relation names too?
can we have a seperate relation function ?
// Jonathan Vanasco
On Jun 4, 2007, at 12:35 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
Yes, and it works the same way as for columns. Like columns,
relationships and foreign keys have N named method types created on
their behalf. Examples of method type names are get, get_set,
get_set_on_save, find, count, etc. There are
. in order to trace, i find myself
opening 1 file to see which function i'm calling, then i get to open
the manager file
it would be even neater if rose could just infer/guess something or
bypass this -- since rose uses bind variables, there shouldn't be any
trickery needed.
// Jonathan
sorry this took so long to respond -- been too busy on the business
side of work, little time for code.
On May 18, 2007, at 2:21 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
I think it's pretty clear given that the table definition is right
above it, and contains:
UNIQUE(product_id, region)
ok. that
code and pglog -- and it gave every
indication rose wasn't. Then other sections started failing with
random code and modules. I have no idea WTF happened.
// Jonathan Vanasco
a lookup hash to map t1_available_api_application_keys to
the t1 object and column when creating objects
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please disregard the last question.
additional troubleshooting showed that , somehow , perl on that dev
box is completely corrupted.
reinstalling *everything* seems to have fixed it after we tested the
same app on another server.
On May 23, 2007, at 9:36 AM, John Siracusa wrote:
Does anyone have any good ideas for a namespace for module that
augment or
extend RDBO, but that are not part of the official RDBO
distribution? The
first thing that springs to my mind is:
Rose::DBx::*
At first I really liked
defined names.
thats my documentation gripe of the week :)
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On May 17, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Michael Reece wrote:
here is a bit of ugliness that hints at what i am after:
I think i do some similar stuff, so I'll give my advice -- which you
may be better off to not take ;)
I never use 'make manager methods'. i started it as a memory saver
because i
at the manager class ?
http://search.cpan.org/~jsiracusa/Rose-DB-Object-0.764/lib/Rose/DB/
Object/Manager.pm
i think that should handle everything you need.
// Jonathan Vanasco
I'm making quite a bit of custom rose functions for my projects , and
looking for feedback on some that i think would be useful if rolled
back into Rose::DB::Helpers
the newest one is related_index
related_index takes a rose object and creates an internal hash to
quickly access specific
, or just suggestions.
its even longer than you think:
at the least, you missed documenting the strip() feature in the
changelog!
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On May 2, 2007, at 1:54 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
You can do this already, more or less, by making your own
My::EmailColumn class based on Rose::DB::Object::Metadata::Column,
then mapping that class to a type name using
meta-column_type_class(email = 'My::EmailColumn'). Then, in your
class
On May 1, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Derek Watson wrote:
I feel like I'm repeating work here -- I've got a similar set of
functions that serialize and restore trees of objects, only I'm doing
this in a very specific way, keeping only what I want from specific
classes (not reusable).
What are the
On Apr 30, 2007, at 4:37 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
Even though there are a bunch of things on my short-term list that I
haven't gotten to, the change list is already quite large and I want
to cut a release soon (it will be 0.764). Is there any feature that I
previously mentioned I'd get to
i'd like to see an is not operator
something like:
'!NAME' = undef# COLUMN IS NOT NULL
under postgres, booleans behave as such:
example table
create table test ( id integer not null , is_selected boolean );
insert into test ( id , is_selected ) values ( 1 , NULL
On Apr 27, 2007, at 10:25 AM, John Siracusa wrote:
Sorry for any delays in responding to RDBO issues or email. We just
had a baby (our second) and things will likely be a bit hectic here
for a while... :)
Congrats!
// Jonathan Vanasco
On Apr 26, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
e) when restoring an object, I'm trying to figure out how stuff the
foreign keys and relationships. i can bring them up as new objects
just fine, but there aren't really any rose methods for stuffing one
into an object
My only concern was how portable the solution would be.
Theoretically,
Rose could add enough value to make it work regardless of the
database.
For example, right now, our version of MySQL silently truncates
values
not in an enum list and add the empty string into enum fields. Rose
On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:06 AM, John Siracusa wrote:
On 4/19/07, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would it be terribly difficult to port:
Rose::DB::Object::MixIn
into
Rose::Object::MixIn
and then just having Rose::DB::Object::MixIn be a subclass of
Rose::Object
On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:22 AM, John Siracusa wrote:
On 4/17/07, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Though that can be handled using a strip helper alone too -- we'd
just need an unstrip() function that builds back in a db object and
metadata
I don't think that'd be necessary
with regex hell
for now
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I have a 4 key map table , and its confusing me how to do this in rose.
Rose Tutorial:
Products
id , name
Colors
id , name
Product2Color
product_id , color_id
My Setup
Adds in a 'user' fkey + time to track the assignment of
obj and just change the table name in the
package meta.
Which would give you a RODB obj that will always fail on DB writes.
Granted, that only works on DBs that support VIEW
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I'm going to need to cache my objects into memcached , and looking
for options.
the quickdirty way would be to just use storable. i think
cache::memcached should be able to bring back the entire object
structure -- including nested objects
has anyone done this? pros / cons ?
my other
is there a way to get Rose to search based on functions?
ie:
bad
SELECT * FROM useraccount WHERE email = ?
good
SELECT * FROM useraccount WHERE lower(email) = lower(?)
the second query will be optimized by the postgres planner to search
on this
use a function or stored
procedure to emulate that better?
also, if you're worried about concurrency, why not just stuff your
rose objects with a dbh that is in a transaction and handle stuff
that way ?
// Jonathan Vanasco
On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:01 AM, John Siracusa wrote:
On 4/5/07, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any chance of these features being pushed back into rose?
The first thing you're likely to see is support for triggers on save,
insert, update, and delete because overriding some of those
to have my cake and eat it too.
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call me lazy--
I just use a bad db handle for all things rose, then have a custom
method that pulls a read-only or read/write handle from a db factory
as needed. ie, they'll always fail on save, insert, update because
they don't have the db permissions
the shell manager classes created for all my modules, but i
don't use the default manager methods . i fill that class with
custom calls as needed.
I just regex it out in 5 seconds, but I think thats marginally useful
to others. perhaps not.
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Lots of messages like this:
Could not auto-retrieve unique keys for class
X::RoseDB::Object::X - No columns found for relation id
174592, column numbers 0 at /Library/Perl/5.8.6/Rose/DB/Object/
Metadata/Auto/Pg.pm line 111.
at /Library/Perl/5.8.6/Rose/DB/Object/Loader.pm line 889
On Apr 2, 2007, at 1:31 AM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
Lots of messages like this:
Could not auto-retrieve unique keys for class
X::RoseDB::Object::X - No columns found for relation id
174592, column numbers 0 at /Library/Perl/5.8.6/Rose/DB/Object/
Metadata/Auto/Pg.pm line 111
doc change:
with_managers seems to default to true , it should be listed as such
feature request:
it would be nice if a variation of with_managers could be called ,
that did not create:
__PACKAGE__-make_manager_methods('useraccount');
mod_perl, it might make sense to play around with the
cache version of rose objects.
rose is *really nice* under mod perl. it sucks a ton of memory for
all the pregeneration of sql , but if flys s fast once its running.
John addressed the rest.
// Jonathan Vanasco
On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:07 PM, James Masters wrote:
So when you say startup, does this mean upon Apache startup or upon
your script startup? I can see that if it's in Apache's memory before
a script even runs, that would be hugely performance enhancing.
apache startup.
there's no point on
situation or have extremely complex joins.
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the nextval later aborts. This means
that aborted transactions may leave unused holes in the sequence of
assigned values. setval operations are never rolled back, either.
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On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:02 PM, Jud wrote:
On 20/03/07 18:57 -0400, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok. its on my list right after the debugger module :)
If you're actually putting together a debug module, I'd put in a
request
for a simple way to turn on all debugging in Rose
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perfect sense: transactions are a part of application
logic , not orms logic
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from a factory class that my entire application uses.
As needed, I have a function that rose reset the db with a write dbh
from the factory.
it works exceedingly well for a clustered db environment.
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On Mar 16, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
package My::RDBO;
use base Rose::DB::Object;
use strict;
sub init_db {
our $cached_db ||= do {
require My::RDB; # my Rose::DB subclass
My::RDB-new;
}
}
1;
mine relies heavily
the tables, classes, and
columns
in accordance with the expectations of the convention manager.) The
resulting vendor() and delete_vendor() methods behave exactly the
same as the methods created on behalf of the foreign key definition.
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never happen though ! ) , everything that hits rose is
consolidated in the DataObject tree
all the hooks , pre processing / whatever can also happen within
update modules in DataObject
its not a better solution, but it works :)
// Jonathan Vanasco
On Feb 17, 2007, at 10:17 PM, Danial Pearce wrote:
Why would you think that? The first example is passing a hash, the
second is passing a hashref.
The bulk of CPAN modules i've been using lately have been taking a
hash or hashref as input equally. and i thought rose did something
] )
get_query( [ a = 1, b = 2 ] )
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db 'operational'
data and metadata seems to be nicely stashed away to 'private'
styled names, while column names are plaintext.
thanks,
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, and noticed that all of the
rose stuff had some sort of prefix -- except db
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the var is this:
sub db
...
$self-{'db'} = $new_db;
$self-{'dbh'} = undef;
...
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. they do nothing but consume memory :)
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On Feb 8, 2007, at 5:58 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
On 2/8/07 5:54 PM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
Er, that's a it already is a get/set method in the latest version.
http://search.cpan.org/~jsiracusa/Rose-DB-Object/lib/Rose/DB/
Object.pm#dbh
Oh, *that* dbh :) That's some old, probably now
::Object instead of
Rose::DB::Object.
My system is different, I keep a 'bad' dbh by default and stuff a
valid dbh manually after i get a read/write/config dbh from a factory
class.
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it could be pretty neat.
opinions ?
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not as nice as having more control, but it
works well.
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On Jan 30, 2007, at 7:48 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
Given that this method will always be called with arguments, and
that those
arguments can change per-call, how can there be any expectation
that the
results will be saved internally? How would such a feature even work?
it wouldn't -- i
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On Jan 19, 2007, at 12:26 AM, Danial Pearce wrote:
On 1/19/07, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
VIEWs are great, because they work out essentially as tables -- so
you can create ROSE DB objects for selecting (though not inserting)
Sure you can do inserting. You can either do
actually do what you expect it to when turned on.
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the ManyToMany relationship
http://search.cpan.org/~jsiracusa/Rose-DB-Object/lib/Rose/DB/Object/
Metadata/Relationship/ManyToMany.pm
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is
__PACKAGE__-meta-initialize( replace_existing= 1 );
in each of your rdbo classes, after everything has been described,
*might* help. without an actual error message, its a wild stab.
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is wrong.
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makes sense.
and if you have more than 1 db connection, the current implementation
makes the most sense: there are too many cases to consider when
deciding which db handle to use.
// Jonathan Vanasco
to query the time
you could also try creating a new rose::db::object class of sql
helper items with 'result' as the only column-- then give it a
manager class and have functions select your 'result' into the
'result' field.
// Jonathan Vanasco
i don't know if this would be doable...
current:
$roseObj-timestamp_action('NOW()');
$roseObject-save;
print $roseObj-timestamp_action ;
\\NOW
desired:
$roseObj-timestamp_action('NOW()');
$roseObject-save;
print
explicit function
( cola = cola+colb ) )
d- would reload if the above conditions were met
its not a simple solution. i wouldn't expect rose to be able to
even handle anything like this for years - if ever.
i just wanted to bring up the scenarios for discussion
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On Dec 15, 2006, at 1:39 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
Why is being in a transaction relevant? Unless the specific
isolation level is known, I don't think it tells us anything.
that's entirely true.
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be to use a DB trigger on insert , that would just populate all of
the fields
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On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:40 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
All of those things are perfectly possible. The downside to all of
them is namespace pollution. The recommended approach, with separate
::Manager classes, gives each manager its own namespace in which to
add custom methods.
Putting manager
On Dec 5, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
This can also be done in a one-shot, without needing to explicitly
lock
anything:
UPDATE foo SET id = id+1 WHERE
nice catch.
i wasn't even thinking of sql. i was just trying to consolidate the
original example.
// Jonathan
On Nov 16, 2006, at 2:16 AM, James Masters wrote:
I use ENUM sometimes. It seemed like a straightforward thing to me
(although I think either MySQL or my interface to it seems to have
trouble
with an enum option of the empty string). Leaving aside
portability, what
bad design patterns
,
$hashref )
i'd just really like to see that functionality there - its really
useful when you need to edit the yaml, init from storable or another
ORM, and its the handy inverse of column_value_pairs
// Jonathan Vanasco
be the default object, but with some overridden
connect args )
but that is probably well outside of the scope of what John wants
rose to handle, and I'm not even sure that's what is going on.
On Oct 9, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
This is an odd issue...
I'm using Rose::DB
I've been going a bit crazy with the to/from yaml for serialization
I noticed that YAML::Syck / JSON::Syck can sometimes have a blank
line in it, which can screw the parser up, and then the rose reader
This will fix it:
next unless $column;
where?
Rose::DB::Object::Helpers
, ive got a bastardized system where I cut to/from yaml and
hashrefs, to coerce stuff in
dirty, but it works.
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I just wanted to bench the difference...
auto_prime_caches is a class method, can't seem to find a way to
toggle it globally
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On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:58 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
I think they key piece of knowledge you're missing is that a call
like:
$objs = My::Whatever::Manager-get_whatevers(...);
is exactly equivalent to:
$objs = Rose::DB::Object::Manager-get_objects(
object_class =
I have essentially an inherited table...
Class A
col 1
col 2
col 3
Class B
col 11 PRIMARY KEY REFERENCES col 1
col 12
col 13
Rose has them in a 1:1 relationship
Loading is fine
Right now I have this:
$classAB= Rose::DB::Object::Manager-get_objects(
object_class= A
with_objects= ['B'],
query= [
id= $kw_args{'id'} ,
On Oct 13, 2006, at 4:09 PM, John Siracusa wrote:
Then why not just do this:
$a = A-new(id = 123);
$b = B-new(id = 123);
$a-b($b);
$a-save; # save A and its associated B
That's actually exactly what I wanted.
I couldn't figure out if rose supported that or not.
the install process has this bit of text:
## WARNING: Almost all the tests in this module distribution need to
connect
## to a database in order to run. The tests need full privileges on
this
## database: the ability to create and drop tables, insert, update,
and delete
## rows, create
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