Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(
On April 9, 2019 1:49:22 AM HST, Sami Jumppanen wrote: > Out of curiosity, what is the problem? > > > > >I had gotten in the habit of just buying a retail desktop PC off > the > > >shelf, but you can't buy those anymore. Getting Linux onto a > retail > > >Windows PC is a huge pain in the ass anyway. I guess I have to go > > >figure out what components to buy and roll my own like it's 1995. > I am > > >not looking forward to this at all. > > > > - Buy a computer > - Put in another hard drive, I bought a cheap SSD > - (Unplug the supplied Windows drive if you're not going to use it for > now) > - Install Linux > > I did find the new Linux installer (with Ubuntu Studio) a bit strange. > It > seemed all logical with empty HDD, but when having another HDD in the > computer with Ubuntu Studio, the installer says there were no other OS > found and logical volume management options and all the talk of > deletion > look strange or scary :D > > I am using now a 2006 era dual core and everything looks ok. Maybe the > newest computers bring new problems? > > Sami My wife's Asus is 2014 or 2015. Booted it from a USB stick, got to see all the lovely partitions Window 10 scattered all over the drive. Xubuntu 18.04 installed over it with no problems. That wasn't Ubuntu Studio. Maybe they're behind the times? -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with F/LOSS K-9 Mail. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(
On 4/8/19 10:37 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: I haven't tested the timing thing either. My computer keeps freezing. When I reboot it, I'm stuck at 1024x768, and the only way I have managed to make progress on that issue is to reinstall Kubuntu. I've been around that bush three times now, and I have grown tired of the aggravation. This machine is rather old, and I suspect the hardware is just flaking out. My main desktop/server, also rather old, finally died. The onboard video went first. Then the machine just quit coming up at all. The backup desktop/server still works. It's "newer" than the dead main one, but has some peculiarities. For example, the BIOS doesn't recognize the presence of a keyboard unless it's plugged into the PS/2 port. Once Linux comes up, it works just fine with my USB keyboard, so it's not a problem with the keyboard. Hoping to replace the guts with a Ryzen 7 motherboard. Could use the speed for other things I do. Either that, or Kubuntu 18.04 is less stable than its many predecessors, which I find difficult to imagine. Still, the trouble started when I upgraded from 16.04, so that may be the culprit. So many things have changed it's more trouble than it's worth to me to try to keep track of any of it. Well, in my experience, upgrading from Ubuntu 16 to Kubuntu 18 was a big hairy problem. For instance, after upgrade and restart, no working network. I reinstalled fresh. I had gotten in the habit of just buying a retail desktop PC off the shelf, but you can't buy those anymore. Getting Linux onto a retail Windows PC is a huge pain in the ass anyway. In my experience, only if you want to keep Windows around. I guess I have to go figure out what components to buy and roll my own like it's 1995. I am not looking forward to this at all. Well, putting Linux on my wife's retail laptop PC that came with Windows on it worked just fine. Dell, Lenovo, HP apparently work. Only ointment-infestation I can imagine might be support for fancy new graphics cards? At the moment, I like Asus motherboards. My wife's laptop and the mobo in my backup desktop machine just work with Linux. Since my present laptop experiences a few issues (doesn't think it has a battery, takes 3-5 minutes before the built-in display shows the POST screen) due to having been dropped a few times, I'm thinking of jumping to a Dell 15"/4K HDR display and Intel processor. Looking for hardware that won't leave me crawling when I move to a 42mpixel camera and get to start making big panoramas. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(
Out of curiosity, what is the problem? > >I had gotten in the habit of just buying a retail desktop PC off the > >shelf, but you can't buy those anymore. Getting Linux onto a retail > >Windows PC is a huge pain in the ass anyway. I guess I have to go > >figure out what components to buy and roll my own like it's 1995. I am > >not looking forward to this at all. > - Buy a computer - Put in another hard drive, I bought a cheap SSD - (Unplug the supplied Windows drive if you're not going to use it for now) - Install Linux I did find the new Linux installer (with Ubuntu Studio) a bit strange. It seemed all logical with empty HDD, but when having another HDD in the computer with Ubuntu Studio, the installer says there were no other OS found and logical volume management options and all the talk of deletion look strange or scary :D I am using now a 2006 era dual core and everything looks ok. Maybe the newest computers bring new problems? Sami ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(
On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 04:37:15 -0400 "D. Michael McIntyre" wrote: >I haven't tested the timing thing either. My computer keeps freezing. >When I reboot it, I'm stuck at 1024x768, and the only way I have managed >to make progress on that issue is to reinstall Kubuntu. I've been >around that bush three times now, and I have grown tired of the >aggravation. This machine is rather old, and I suspect the hardware is >just flaking out. Either that, or Kubuntu 18.04 is less stable than its >many predecessors, which I find difficult to imagine. Still, the >trouble started when I upgraded from 16.04, so that may be the culprit. >So many things have changed it's more trouble than it's worth to me to >try to keep track of any of it. > >I had gotten in the habit of just buying a retail desktop PC off the >shelf, but you can't buy those anymore. Getting Linux onto a retail >Windows PC is a huge pain in the ass anyway. I guess I have to go >figure out what components to buy and roll my own like it's 1995. I am >not looking forward to this at all. > > > Over here in the UK I found a company the builds to order, and are quite happy to do so with no OS installed with the knowledge you are going to run Linux on it, so will use known supported peripherals. They are not cheap, but I've now had two machines from them and in both cases all I needed to to was install from CD. The latest one is a quad core Ryzen and is just over a year old now - sings like a bird :) Is there nothing like that where you are? -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(
I haven't tested the timing thing either. My computer keeps freezing. When I reboot it, I'm stuck at 1024x768, and the only way I have managed to make progress on that issue is to reinstall Kubuntu. I've been around that bush three times now, and I have grown tired of the aggravation. This machine is rather old, and I suspect the hardware is just flaking out. Either that, or Kubuntu 18.04 is less stable than its many predecessors, which I find difficult to imagine. Still, the trouble started when I upgraded from 16.04, so that may be the culprit. So many things have changed it's more trouble than it's worth to me to try to keep track of any of it. I had gotten in the habit of just buying a retail desktop PC off the shelf, but you can't buy those anymore. Getting Linux onto a retail Windows PC is a huge pain in the ass anyway. I guess I have to go figure out what components to buy and roll my own like it's 1995. I am not looking forward to this at all. -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
