Re: [Rosegarden-user] Audio File Location Issue
my personal preference is to default to the same ./ as the rg file itself. That way anyone in the habit of dumping all their rg files into ~/rosegarden will know where to find them, while people who want to save them somewhere else can effortlessly keep the associated audio files in that different location. Anywhere relative to the *.rg file is good from my point of view, but this option seems likely to be the least coding Introducing a new dialog for something that most people haven't had spend any time thinking about so far seems like an undesirable increase in user friction. Not quite kwallet kind of nuisance, but better off avoided in my opinion. On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:11 AM Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > Hey Ted, > > On 28/01/22 03:09, Ted Felix wrote: > >To solve the audio file location issue (i.e. why is everything always > > just dumped in ~/rosegarden), I was thinking we could have a dialog pop > > up when saving with audio files for the first time. It would ask where > > you would like the audio files saved and provide the following options: > > I will say that I rarely do audio in Rosegarden, still... > > > > > - To an "audio" directory where the document is saved. (./audio) > >(Recommended.) (default) > > > > - To a directory named after the document in the directory where the > >document is saved. (./document name) > > > > - To the same directory where the document is saved. (.) > > > > - To a central audio file repository. (~/rosegarden-audio) > > > >It might also have a "go with this from now on" option to avoid > > showing the dialog ever again. > > > >I think this (along with switching to > > "~/.local/share/rosegarden/audio" for audio files before saving) would > > satisfy all the issues described in the bugs and feature requests > > related to audio paths: > > I think it's a great idea to provide options to users which might work > well for different workflows. If this becomes a config option it should > also be exposed somewhere in the preferences. > > An additional option _might_ be to then put the audio into the > rosegarden file (which is actually just a zip file). The reason for this > would be that it's the most 'portable' option (e.g. for backups etc.). > Software like QTractor and Ardour use a directory as the 'session' so > everything is stored in a 'project' directory. I guess the unique file > vs. directory has its pros and cons, and as of now I like Rosegarden > approach which has the benefit of being able to start a new file without > having to give it a name and a directory (sorry I digress). > > A question about the different options: would the path be saved as an > absolute one or relative one, or both depending on the options above? > I'm thinking about this, again, for portability. In the cases of > ./audio, ./document and ./ IMHO the path should be relative so that if I > move those around the audio isn't broken. In the case of ones in home > the path should ~ so that if a user migrated their system to a new home > stuff would still work? > > Lorenzo. > > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/bugs/1283/ > > https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/494/ > > https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/495/ > > > >Any objections before I dig into this? The pop-up at save time is > > the most annoying thing, but you really only need to configure it for > > your preferred way of working once and that will be the default from > > then on. > > > > Ted. > > > > > > ___ > > Rosegarden-user mailing list > > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to > unsubscribe > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Audio score creation
Nothing does that On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 4:15 PM M.R.P. zensky via Rosegarden-user < rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hello I am looking for linux software that can take an audio track and > convert it to sheet music. Does Rosegarden allow this? > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Import sf2
Importing the sf2 in the 'manage midi devices' dialog has a mostly decorative function. Ie, it only effects the the labels that RG assigns to tracks. If you are fairly new to this sort of stuff what i bet you want to do is to load the font into a synth to make some sounds. This is done in qsynth itself and the process is fairly self explanatory. Once the sf2 is loaded in the synth, there is no urgent need to import it into RG unless you find it overly confusing to have RG calling your presets by the wrong name. On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 11:33 AM Mike Knott wrote: > Hi, > > I'm struggling to understand the instructions on importing a soundfont > into Rosegarden. The Rosegarden Handbook says this is achievable (instead > of importing an rgd file). > > What I'm, exactly, trying to achieve is to replace the Programs in the > Instrument Parameter List to those in the Guitars-Universal-V1.5.sf2. > > I've tried using the Studio > Manage MIDI Devices Dialog to Import but am > only getting three voices as a result (there are many, many in the > soundfont). > > I'm using QSynth and have tried loading this soundfont in there but this > changes nothing in Rosegarden. > > OK, apologies in advance for the newbie nature of the post. > > Mike > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] beginners question : getting sound
If you're just looking to make examples of non-standard tunings, csound is probably your most direct route. While csound's learning curve is genarally alarmingly precipitous, in this instance it might be what you're looking for. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 10:18 AM Tom Peters wrote: > On 09-02-2021 05:46, Ted Felix wrote: > > On 2/8/21 10:19 PM, david wrote: > >> Also, what's a "sensible default" vs something that someone else might > >> consider a headache or bloatware? > > > >Heh. Yeah. VMPK just added a built-in synth. That caused me a > > bunch of head scratching since it broke my setup. Had to dig through > > the menus to get it working again. You can't keep the beginners and the > > pros happy. > > > >We've got documentation and lots of folks here willing to help. I > > think we're doing it right. > > I agree with Ted on the folks willing to help, but I do find the > documentation lacking. His page > (http://tedfelix.com/linux/linux-midi.html) appears to be what I was > looking for (it does look like some work, so I won't have time to dive > in until the weekend), but all this info appears lacking from the > Rosegarden site itself. A picture of the required software stack like > on Ted's page I think is most helpful (although oddly Rosegarden itself > is not in it). > > Also in this thread opinions differ on what is required or recommended: > JACK? Obsolete with DSSI? DSSI itself obsolete? > Maybe too many hardware combinations and choices to have a "sensible > default", but then an installation wizzard like someone suggested would > be a valuable addition. And I do maintain that since almost every > compter has a sound card and speakers, which are known to the kernel and > detectable, getting sound out of them should be automagic. > > Traditionally Unix has been a bag of components and a bag of tools and > users have had to build their own custom hotrod. But frankly, I've been > there, done that, got the T-shirt (really I do - from the trade shows in > the late 1990's): what I want these days is get things done. I want to > go from A to B and don't care about the colour of the car or think about > if I need spiked tyres along the way. That's why I asked whether > Rosegarden is the proper tool for what I am trying to make (sound > samples to illustrate music theory). Since I am looking for a program > that can generate notes in Pythagorean tuning which is hardly standard, > I suppose I need something fancy like Rosegarden so I will make the > effort. But I foresee that I will come back with questions on how to get > a non-standard tuning. > > Maybe if I figure things out I will see what I can contribute to the > documentation. > -- > Tom > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [OT]: quick and easy music making: a marketer's dream [WAS] Re: beginners question : getting sound
Technically speaking RG does make sound without any coaxing although this point likely won't be well taken by a first time user who just want to hear some sequenced sounds. Part of the problem is the sheer diversity of available instruments. Apart from the go to fluidsynth, most distros have packages for aeolus, bristol, hexter and plenty more. For only slightly more effort linuxsampler is just a compile away. As such there is no single clear path to making notes come out. >From a novice's point of view, it will not be immediately obvious that just hooking up RG to sytem out will be insufficient to hear the sounds they are looking for. To this end, it might be helpful to steer beginners toward using DSSI plugins. That way, at least, connecting RG to system output (which should happen automatically on startup) will make sound come out with a minimum of configging around. Users consulting the examples included with RG won't find a lot of help in this regard. I know my own contributions in this area still reference a SB128 sound card which wont get them very far in the right direction. Perhaps a little sprucing up here would be helpful. I haven't used RG in the fluidcentric way outlined in this thread for quite a while now. My current way of making the sounds come out is to use carla to connect RG to sfz files. Apart from the sfzs themselves, everything I use ships stock with UbuntuStudio. My workflow is as follows: 1) Open studio controls. Make sure the a2j bridge is selected and start jack. 2) Start carla. Drag and drop some sfzs From the file tree on the left onto the main canvas and connect them to system out. 3) Fire up RG. Go to the 'manage midi devices' pop up and add a new device for each sfz to be used, giving each a helpful name. 4) Back in carla, connect the RG instruments the their respective sfzs. 5) In RG, select the appropriate sfz instrument for each track rather than just accepting the default GM device. A similar approach works with sf2 files as well. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 8:52 AM Will Godfrey wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 07:45:47 -0500 > "D. Michael McIntyre" wrote: > > >But whatever. I hate this topic, and I'm going to duck my head and > >concentrate my attention elsewhere. I just wanted to fire off this rant. > > FWIW, I feel your pain (as someone who fell into software development a > similar > way) > > What doesn't help, is the people who ask for special features to make > something > fit their unique way of working, then when it's supplied never actually > use it! > > -- > Will J Godfrey > http://www.musically.me.uk > http://yoshimi.github.io > Say you have a poem and I have a tune. > Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] work flow irritants
I was recently working on an audio project in RG using an existing midi as a guide track and encountered a couple of pesky issues I haven't run up against before. The midi I imported (understandably) didn't have any audio track, so I added eight of them at one go via tracks->add tracks Doing so has the unfortunate result that all of them come up as audio #1 rather than audio #1-8 as might be expected and as is the case in a new empty file. As such, they have no independent volume control and are all on the same effects bus. A suboptimal arrangement. While the solution was simply to manually change them to audio #1 through audio #8, it didn't jump right out at me until after a bit of thinking, never having come across this particular situation in my 15+ years of using RG. Is this a bug or a feature? My second irritant is that it is no longer possible to copy and paste between separate invocations of RG. I distinctly remember having done so in the past. That is to say, if I have a part in one file that I wish to paste into another, it won't do to open them both up in seperate invocations of RG and copy and paste between them (as I have done at some point in the distant past). The clipboard is not shared between the two instances of RG. Instead, I have to open one file, copy the stuff I want, close that file and open the other. Ok if it's just one copy and paste operation, but get pretty darn tedious if I want to transplant several chunks. I struggle to imagine a context in which I would prefer the current behaviour to the old one, but maybe there's a perfectly good reason for it in someone's eyes. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden raspberry pi?
Btw, when I last tried RG on a Pi, there was a precompiled version in the Raspbian repo. Good thing. Pis aren't real good at compiling stuff is a hurry. On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:26 AM steve conrad wrote: > I have used Rosegarden on a Pi3. It worked about as much as any desktop > app can be said to work on one of those things. Didn't make it crash more > than anything else. As near as I can make out, once a Pi runs out of RAM it > just reboots and that happens pretty often using Raspbian. > > PIs are basically pretty useless though. The price point is a bit of a > hoax. By the time you gear them up with a case, a screen and such they cost > as much as a low end laptop while offering a fraction of the performance > and stability. > > If you want something small and quiet for rosegarden etc, try looking into > a micro PC like a Gigabyte brix. They've got a real computer inside. > > I've had a Pi for a couple years now and while I have found it technically > capable of performing a variety of tasks, I have yet to find any > application for which it is the right tool. So I don't use it for anything > at all. A solution in search of a problem. > > And of course they're offensively black boxed as you would expect from the > bastard child of a bunch of Broadcom engineers. Those things are not open > source friendly in any way. > > Imho, Pis are a waste of time and money but Rosegarden doesn't present any > special problems as far as they are concerned. > > I've heard some people like them more than I do. > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:28 PM David Tisdell > wrote: > >> I am leaning toward giving it a shot after the first of the year, >> especially after Will Godfrey's link to the "yoshimi pi" >> If I do, I'll post about success of lack thereof. I am thinking that I >> will most likely have to compile RG. There probably isn't a binary in the >> PI repository. Not that it's hard, just haven't done it in quite a while. >> >> Dave >> >> Dave >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:16 AM Ted Felix wrote: >> >>> On 12/8/20 7:43 PM, David Tisdell wrote: >>> > Has anyone tried Rosegarden and other linux audio apps on the newest >>> > Raspberry PI? >>> >>>I have not. However, it would be an interesting test case. >>> >>>On my laptop (an ancient 1st gen i3) I see about 1.7% CPU being used >>> by RG if I launch JACK after RG is up. If I launch RG after JACK is up, >>> I see about 15% CPU for RG plus about 4.3% CPU for JACK. So, if you >>> don't use the audio subsystem (audio tracks) in RG, you can likely >>> reduce the CPU usage considerably. That might make it a lot easier to >>> use RG on a Pi. >>> >>>Let us know how it goes if you decide to try this route. We might >>> need to add a "disable audio" to the preferences to allow for easier >>> performance tuning. We also might need to do some further performance >>> tuning in the code. I'm always up for that. >>> >>> Ted. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Rosegarden-user mailing list >>> Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to >>> unsubscribe >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user >>> >> ___ >> Rosegarden-user mailing list >> Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user >> > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden raspberry pi?
I have used Rosegarden on a Pi3. It worked about as much as any desktop app can be said to work on one of those things. Didn't make it crash more than anything else. As near as I can make out, once a Pi runs out of RAM it just reboots and that happens pretty often using Raspbian. PIs are basically pretty useless though. The price point is a bit of a hoax. By the time you gear them up with a case, a screen and such they cost as much as a low end laptop while offering a fraction of the performance and stability. If you want something small and quiet for rosegarden etc, try looking into a micro PC like a Gigabyte brix. They've got a real computer inside. I've had a Pi for a couple years now and while I have found it technically capable of performing a variety of tasks, I have yet to find any application for which it is the right tool. So I don't use it for anything at all. A solution in search of a problem. And of course they're offensively black boxed as you would expect from the bastard child of a bunch of Broadcom engineers. Those things are not open source friendly in any way. Imho, Pis are a waste of time and money but Rosegarden doesn't present any special problems as far as they are concerned. I've heard some people like them more than I do. On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:28 PM David Tisdell wrote: > I am leaning toward giving it a shot after the first of the year, > especially after Will Godfrey's link to the "yoshimi pi" > If I do, I'll post about success of lack thereof. I am thinking that I > will most likely have to compile RG. There probably isn't a binary in the > PI repository. Not that it's hard, just haven't done it in quite a while. > > Dave > > Dave > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:16 AM Ted Felix wrote: > >> On 12/8/20 7:43 PM, David Tisdell wrote: >> > Has anyone tried Rosegarden and other linux audio apps on the newest >> > Raspberry PI? >> >>I have not. However, it would be an interesting test case. >> >>On my laptop (an ancient 1st gen i3) I see about 1.7% CPU being used >> by RG if I launch JACK after RG is up. If I launch RG after JACK is up, >> I see about 15% CPU for RG plus about 4.3% CPU for JACK. So, if you >> don't use the audio subsystem (audio tracks) in RG, you can likely >> reduce the CPU usage considerably. That might make it a lot easier to >> use RG on a Pi. >> >>Let us know how it goes if you decide to try this route. We might >> need to add a "disable audio" to the preferences to allow for easier >> performance tuning. We also might need to do some further performance >> tuning in the code. I'm always up for that. >> >> Ted. >> >> >> ___ >> Rosegarden-user mailing list >> Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user >> > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Humanizing MIDI tracks
Two good things to randomize are timing and velocity, obviously. Note velocities can be tweeked in the velocity ruler to get a faux random effect. The start time and duration of notes can be given individual micro-adjustments in the note properties pop up. Pushing the tempo or just plain screwing it up can easily be replicated in this manner. Maybe more labour intensive than one would hope, but certainly enough to breath some life into the rendering. Playing with the pitch ruler can also get some of the starch out of a midi sequence.-- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471&iu=/4140___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Blog on RG Organ Sounds
I have written up a short article on my experience experimenting with organ sounds on Rosegarden using different synthesizers and effects processors. It may be of some interest to readers of this list. http://steve-conrad.com/blog/?page_id=65 -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bars & Ties
Csound is utterly indifferent to note names and accidentals. Notes are called by their frequencies (yuck), midi note number or most commonly PCH notation which is what Rosegarden exports. In PCH, octaves are integers and the notes within an octave are decimals, so that 6.00 is middle C, 7.04 is the E a tenth above middle C etc. In this scheme 4.24 is also middle C, by the way, so transposition by simple addition (but not subtraction) is possible. Subtraction doesn't work because 6.00 - 0.01 = 5.99, which is Eb eight octaves and a minor third above middle C rather than the B just below it. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bars & Ties
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Bars & Ties
Thanks. That's helpful.
Accessing bar line positions is more trouble than it's worth for me
right is what that part of your answer tells me. That frees up some time
for me.
As for the ties, a note would have two properties: one for tied from
and another for tied to. Any idea where I could find that code? Just
looking quickly, I didn't see anything like that in event.* or
notationtypes.* and there doesn't seem be be a file called note anywhere
in the tree.
I'm expecting there to be an accessor method like note->getTieForward()
which returns the note to which a given note is tied but I can't find
one. Or maybe it's just note->getProperty('tiedForward') and I have to
find where the properties are defined. In either case, I can't find it.
But I'm hardly a well informed searcher.
Csound understands legato ties between notes of different pitch, but it
has no reason to use ties between notes of the same pitch because score
events don't take place in the context of a staff with bars and time
signatures. Notes just have arbitrary start times and durations. Very
economical if you take a second to think about it.
Unfortunately, collapse all will only work for notes with durations that
divide by 1,2,3,4,6,7 or 8. (I'm assuming that collapse all remembers to
use double dots to get the sevens). That is to say a dotted quarter note
tied to a regular quarter note can't be collapsed into anything else.
Still, seven out of eight is pretty good, so I'll be using that in the
future when doing Csound exports. Thanks.
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[Rosegarden-user] Bars & Ties
How would I go about rounding up the bar lines in a segment? It would not appear that a bar line is an event, since in jpff;;;'s CsoundExport code, all non-note events are printed as a comment line, and bar lines aren't there in the output. Same thing for ties. They aren't there either. If they aren't an event, what are they, and how do I enumerate them? I'm more than willing to spend a bit of time reading the code if someone could point me in the right direction. I'm trying to add a commented mention of the bar numbers to the csound export. Also trying to correct the way two tied notes are output as two separate notes instead of one long one. Not being familiar with the RG codebase, I'm running up against a bit of a needle in a haystack problem though. (Sent this once already, but from the wrong email. Sorry if it double posts eventually). -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] CsoundExport
Thanks. For now just commit the attached Csound Export.cpp. That really improves usability from my point of view. I'll try to figure out how to do something about the ties as time permits. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] CsoundExport
It mostly works as it is. The thing is that you can't proceed on the assumption that your RG composition will come popping out the other end of csound at the press of a button. I use it to make a start on a csound score which then needs some touching up by hand. However, just getting all notes down in the right order is a huge headstart on the problem. The other day I tried entering twelve bars worth of a 12/8 phrase into a csound score manually, and it took most of the evening because I kept miscounting the syncopated bits and had to keep fixing my mistakes. While most instruments are going to take more parameters than the basic five, in general, the value will just be a "." in a human edited score. So, while RG isn't going to output a renderable .csd file any time soon it is a very handy tool for generating the note lists. For example, here's a chunk of an actual score I'm working on: ; p1p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 ; Inst Start Dur Amp Pitch Press BowPos Vfreq Vamp i 1 0 1 40 6.003 0.135 0.01 i 1 + . 32 6.072.5 . . . i 1 + . 34 7.032.0 . . . i 1 + . 28 6.001.5 . . . Note how many of the values past p5 are just dots (repeat the value from the line before). RG can generate output like the scrap below, which means that if you wanted to play it with the wgbow instrument for which the above scrap was written, you'd just have to go through and tack on the bits after p5. I assure you that this is a huge help to me. The below output was made using my modified CsoundExport.cpp file, fyi. The stock version would have "i 0" in place of "i 1" and would have p4 (Amp) and p5 (Pch) reversed. ;; Inst Start Dur Amp Pch ;; --- - ;; Event type: clefchange ;; Event type: keychange i1 0 1 127 9.02 i1 0 1 127 8.11 i1 0 1 127 8.07 i1 1 0.3 104 8.07 i1 1 0.3 104 8.11 i1 1 0.3 104 9.02 i1 1.3 0.3 96 8.07 i1 1.3 0.3 96 8.11 i1 1.3 0.3 96 9.02 i1 1.7 0.1896 8.07 i1 1.7 0.1896 8.11 i1 1.7 0.1896 9.02 i1 2 0.6 124 8.07 i1 2 0.6 124 8.11 i1 2 0.6 124 9.04 i1 3 0.6 119 8.07 i1 3 0.6 119 8.11 (This is the first phrase of one of the tunes from The Nutcracker, btw). Punching the notes into the notation editor is immensely quicker than working out the note times in a text editor. What RG can't do though is to help you with the orchestra files. Kind of on your own with the documentation on that front. That said, the folks at the csound mailing list are active and helpful. The preferable solution would be to have a spreadsheet sort of editor to which extra columns can be added to accomodate the extra p values. Pretty sure Qt already has a spreadsheet library built in. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] CsoundExport
Since rosegarden remains the only way I know of the create a csound score using standard musical notation, I thought I might adjust a couple of pesky things about the otherwise excellent way it makes the files. 1) Instrument 0 is not valid in csound, so I just add 1 to the track number to avoid i 0. 2) By convention, the first five parameters of a score are: p1 => Instrument p2 => Start p3 => Duration p4 => Amplitude p5 => Pitch I've just rearranged the output to reflect this custom (assuming that velocity is a reasonable standin for amplitude). I've been running some conversions with this this afternoon and it doesn't seem to break anything else in RG. Changing the RG source was easier for me than writing a perl script to modify RG's output, even though I'm definitely not anything like a C++ programmer. There are a couple of other irritants I'd like to correct as well - most notably the way two tied notes of the same pitch just come out as two regular notes, which can be pretty jarring at times. But devising a way of adding up the durations of two tied notes to output one long one would require a bit more effort on my part. For now this minor change greatly improves the usability of CsoundExport, from my point of view at least. Does anyone else actually use this? CsoundExporter.cpp.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ubuntustudio and Elusive libs
Thanks Ted. That was just the information I needed. Went off without a hitch.
I also tried leaving the jack.pc file untouched and passing the
correct path to the jack headers as an environmental variable. This
also worked.
Kicking myself for checking that all the libs were where pkgconfig
said they were, but not bothering to check in on the header files.
Below is a scriptlet I used to run configure for me. Maybe someone
else will find it useful in a similar situation.
#!/bin/sh
# Working ./configure invocation for rosegarden-14.12 on Ubuntu-14.10
# Tell compiler where to actually find jack headers
export JACK_CFLAGS="-I${includedir} -I${includedir}/jack"
# Tell configure where Ubuntu have hidden libQtGui.so
./configure \
--with-qtlibdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
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[Rosegarden-user] Ubuntustudio and Elusive libs
Having a bit of bother getting RG 14.12 to find libs when compiling UbuntuStudio 14.10. The problem, of course is that Ubuntu sticks its libs pretty deep in the file system under /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ When it can't see libQtGui.so I can easily solve the problem by changing my configure command to: $./configure --with-qtlibdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ The problem that's holding me up is that when it can't find the jack libs, it isn't quite as chatty, so I don't really know what it isn't finding: configure: WARNING: Required JACK library not found, building with no audio! The configure script doesn't have a --with-jacklibdir option so I guess I'll have to set some sort of a jack related environmental variable like JACK_CFLAGS or JACK_LIBS but I'm not really sure how to set them. The output from pkg-config all seems pretty reasonable. There are in fact libs where pkg-config says they ought to be: steve@laprat:~/Downloads/rosegarden-14.12$ pkg-config --print-variables jack exec_prefix prefix libdir includedir server_libs steve@laprat:~/Downloads/rosegarden-14.12$ pkg-config --variable=exec_prefix jack /usr steve@laprat:~/Downloads/rosegarden-14.12$ pkg-config --variable=libdir jack /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu steve@laprat:~/Downloads/rosegarden-14.12$ pkg-config --variable=includedir jack /usr/include steve@laprat:~/Downloads/rosegarden-14.12$ pkg-config --variable=serverlibs jack I notice that some of the jack libs are put under a subfolder of libdir, so maybe whatever it is that RG can't find is hiding in there: steve@laprat:~/Downloads/rosegarden-14.12$ ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/*jack* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjacknet.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjacknet.so.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjacknet.so.0.1.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjackserver.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjackserver.so.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjackserver.so.0.1.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjack.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjack.so.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjack.so.0.1.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/jack: audioadapter.so jack_alsa.so jack_loopback.so netadapter.so inprocess.so jack_dummy.so jack_netone.sonetmanager.so jack_alsarawmidi.so jack_firewire.so jack_net.so profiler.so Any suggestions? -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Useless Mode?
Yes, that was it. Vaguely remembered something like that but couldn't find the button, never having used it in all my years with RG. The troublesome stylized S appears in the track window but not in the main one so I was just looking in the wrong place. Thanks. > > >> After spending a fair amount of time punching in a piece today, I >> suddenly found it would only play one track at a time. Whichever one I >> select in the main window. > > Sounds like you're in solo mode. It's the [s] button, found in a few > different places. Synchronization between the assorted different places > has been a chronic, complex problem, and it's entirely possible you're > showing solo mode here but not there, or you're in solo mode even though > the display indicates otherwise. > > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Useless Mode?
After spending a fair amount of time punching in a piece today, I suddenly found it would only play one track at a time. Whichever one I select in the main window. This strange and unhelpful situation only affects the tune in question and seems incurable. I'm wondering if I might have accidentally clicked on some 'useless mode' button that renders the thing monophonic, but if so, I can't seem to find it again to unclick it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] multiple separate inputs in one recording?
Actually, that was a bit of shabby reading on my part. The solution I mentioned earlier only works for audio ins and outs, not midi ones. On 6/16/14, Bric wrote: > On 06/16/2014 10:00 PM, steve conrad wrote: >> Actually, that was a bit of shabby reading on my part. This only works >> for audio ins and outs, not midi ones. > > You mean what you suggested previously? The "create jack outputs for > individual audio instruments" checkboxes? > > And by "audio" you mean, like, wav recordings, right? > > OK. Good to know. You should have posted to the list, perhaps, for > "posterity" ;-) > >> >> On 6/16/14, Bric wrote: >>> On 06/16/2014 04:10 PM, steve conrad wrote: >>>> You have to go to Edit -》Preferences -》Audio and check the box for >>>> "create jack outputs for individual audio insruments". Then just make >>>> the desired connections in patchage. >>>> >>> I had seen that setting earlier, and had paused and wondered about it >>> :-))) but had not tried it. >>> >>> Anyhow, in my previous post I was saying how I finally achieved the >>> input separation, and it was without the above configuration. Go >>> figure... >>> >>> Or, perhaps my success was just another erratic behavior of the software >>> that will not be replicated next time I try. If it fails again, I will >>> look to the above as the solution immediately. Otherwise, I might get >>> around to it in a few days, when I'm done laying down the desired tracks >>> ;-) >>> >>> (Is that non-communal and selfish of me? (Is that a rhetorical >>> question?? ) :-)) I think I just don't want to change the slightest >>> thing in a WORKING configuration (if, indeed, it continues to work) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk >>> Solutions >>> Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems >>> Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. >>> Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems >>> ___ >>> Rosegarden-user mailing list >>> Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to >>> unsubscribe >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user >>> > > -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] multiple separate inputs in one recording?
You have to go to Edit -》Preferences -》Audio and check the box for "create jack outputs for individual audio insruments". Then just make the desired connections in patchage. On Jun 12, 2014 6:50 AM, "Andrew" wrote: > Hi, all > > I've always had the inkling that this was possible, because the interface > options seemed to suggest it is, but now I finally need this functionality > and am trying it but it doesn't seem to work. > > I have set up two inputs at once - vkeyboard and an external keyboard. > Outisde of RG the two seem to work OK, in concurrence and without > interference; I assign each input to a different output, in qsynth, and > they are played simultaneously and produce two distinct sounds, without > crossing over. > > So, I wanted to use them both in a single RG recording session, recording > two tracks at once, but track 1 getting input ONLY from vkeyboard, and > track 2 getting input ONLY from the external keyboard. > > And when I tried this, there was total crossover! All the midi signals > generated by both inputs got recorded on each of the two tracks tagged for > recording. Even though, in the instrument panel, under "Recording > filters", I designated vkeyboard for track 1 and external keyboard for > track 2. > > I also tinkered with channels, though not thoroughly. > > What am I doing wrong? Or did I even infer correctly that this is > possible? > > thanks > > > > -- > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration > http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] sooperlooper
Thanks for responding to such an arguably off topic question. After a bit of tinkering around I have managed to figure things out, mostly. I am trying to use Rosegarden to control SooperLooper in order to automate a variety of tasks, thereby freeing my hands from the mouse and putting them back on my guitar where they belong. So far I have managed to assign midi binding to the more basic commands. Pretty straight forward, really. Just go to SL's session->properties dialog and select the MIDI Bindings tab. Assign events to notes and then make an RG file containing these notes. However, I am a bit stymied trying to set up a pitch_shift binding. When I try to create such a binding in the midi binding tab of the preferences dialog, I see the target range showing -12 to +12 as I would expect, but I'm kind of confused by data range options. Obviously 128 doesn't divide evenly by 25, so I'm guessing I should limit the range to something that does - say from 88 to 112. When I do this I get the following line in my .slb file: 0 n 74 set pitch_shift 0 -12 12 norm 88 112 But then where does the data come from? These control events show up in RG as plain old notes. So the only "data" they're packing is the velocity. So I set up and RG file where the are a bunch of note 74 type events and I give them velocities somewhere in the range of 88 to 112. (Fortunately for me, 100 is the default velocity for a new note in RG, which corresponds to a pitch_shift of 0). Much to my surprise this almost works as expected. The only problem is that as soon as the notes end, the pitch_shift reverts to the unhelpful default of -12. This is easily corrected by changing the event type from "note" to "note on" in the midi event panel at the bottom right of the midi bindings tab. Why it defaults to -12 is a bit puzzling though. One minor glitch is that pitch shifting the loop to which SL is synching will cause other loops to fail to trigger, so don't do that. -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity • Requirements for releasing software faster • Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] sooperlooper
Has anyone tried using RG to control SooperLooper? I notice RG quite readily attaches itself to SL in the studio setup, but I'm just not smart enough to figure out how to get RG to send midi control events to SL. I've been playing around with loops on my guitar lately, but find it a bit distracting to have to reach over and mess with the mouse while I"m trying to play. As far as I can tell, it should be possible to automate the recording, overdubbing and manipulation of loops just by having an RG piece that sends out command to SL. Just have no clue where to begin. -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ubuntu Studio 14 - Don't Do It
Just recompiled the current version and no crash. Thanks. Yes, I did mean to paste from the notation editor. Sorry I wasn't clearer. Odd that the selection bug hadn't shown itself to me until after upgrading the OS. Bit of a chore getting everything to compile at first. Ubuntustudio isn't all that developer ready. Got a little frustrated trying to tell configure where to find things at first, but the wiki info about how to compile from SVN was extremely helpful and to the point. The new version of the OS doesn't seem quite as awful as it did this morning. Not sure what's up with that. Network stopped dropping the connection and Firefox isn't freezing up all the time. And I didn't have to recompile those things. VLC still freezes up the system when playing video though. Guess I should have help off for a bug fix release of ubuntustudio before taking the plunge. Live and learn. On 5/2/14, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 05/02/2014 12:19 PM, steve conrad wrote: > >> I've attached a small example that reliably >> crashes RG on my machine. Just try to copy and paste the last two bars >> into the next bit of empty space. > > You left plenty for me to invent with that test procedure. I infer > you've been using the notation editor to do this copying and pasting. > Since you left it in the air, I tried two different selection methods > and two different copy/paste methods. > > No crashes with current SVN. > > I wish I could remember the precise details of who did what how on those > selection bugs, so I could give proper credit to the right people. I > simply don't remember, tragically. > > In any case, it was a tough bit of work some time ago, but distro > packages tend to be 1-2 years out of date, so you probably have a > version older than that fix. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > -- > "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE > Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get > unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. > Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." > http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Ubuntu Studio 14 - Don't Do It
I just "upgraded" from ubuntustudio 13 to version 14. Bad move. Everything crashes all the time. Too bad, really. I've been using this distro for a few years now, and this is the first time I've ended up installing a truly regrettable dud. Most relevantly to this list, RG dumps its core in response to simple copy and paste operations making it pretty much unusable. Not sure if this is because of a defective RG package, or just the general instability of the OS. I've attached a small example that reliably crashes RG on my machine. Just try to copy and paste the last two bars into the next bit of empty space. Here's what RG has to say up until the core dump: # # RG Output # # [notation] NotationView::slotUpdateMenuStates: Have selection; it's 0x2e8d490 covering range from 61440 to 69120 ( 13 events) [notation] Do not have NoteRestInserter [generic] EventSelection::addRemoveEvent Sent event that can not be found in segment. Exiting method Segmentation fault (core dumped) ## # End RG Output # ## Curious to see if anyone else can reproduce these results on a less dodgey system. crashy-example.rg Description: audio/rosegarden -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Setup Automatic Pitch Bend?
Probably the most efficient work around is to make your own sound font with the samples retuned to suit your purposes. The midi note to sample mapping of a font doesn't really require you to sound the note corresponding to the midi note number you've selected. Percussion fonts are one obvious example of a font where note number doesn't correspond to midi pitch. An hour or two fiddling around with Swami and you should be up and running. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] 3/7/2013 2:41:57 AM
http://www.retailtrainingnetwork.com/zcel/sfpfyh/qddgdz/trhllsxw/pfyrj steve conrad 3/7/2013 2:41:57 AM -- Symantec Endpoint Protection 12 positioned as A LEADER in The Forrester Wave(TM): Endpoint Security, Q1 2013 and "remains a good choice" in the endpoint security space. For insight on selecting the right partner to tackle endpoint security challenges, access the full report. http://p.sf.net/sfu/symantec-dev2dev___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...
Ubuntu Studio 12.04 defaults to XFCE I believe. I've been using it for a while now with great success. Didn't take much of a test ride to boil down Unity though. 12.04 finally has a proper real time pre-emptive kernel again after going through a bit of a rough patch for a release or two. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Busted Examples
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[Rosegarden-user] Busted Examples
I'd like to point out that my examples are broken again. Track 9 should in all cases be a second drum track. But it comes up as a non-percussion track in the wrong key instead. I do this to make the notation more manageable since cymbals and hi-hat are all notated as sharp notes whereas kick, snare and toms are all naturals. This arrangement used to work in earlier versions of RG but now it doesn't. Not actually sure if this is an issue with RG or Fluidsynth. In any case, changing track 9 so that it uses instrument 10 fixes the problem. Sorry if I seem to be so persistently anal about a few example tunes, but since the tunes are in C major, E minor and G minor having some repetitive notes banging away in B major really does create a godawful cacophony. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Can't connect virtual MIDI input (Windows version)
a feature, not a bug? On 1/18/12, Josep Pujadas i Jubany wrote: > Hello! > > I downloaded today Rosergarden for Windows and I found two problems: > > * I have JACK for Windows also installed (it comes with last version of > Hydrogen). The Windows version of Rosegarden can't work with JACK. JACK > doesn't see Rosegarden and viceversa. > > * I tried many Virtual MIDI ports to connect other virtual MIDI devices. I > can't add anu imput MIDI and When I want to do sometimes Rosegarden > crashes. I tested it with midyoke, sony virtual midi router and loopbe1, to > connect http://vmpk.sourceforge.net/ > > Regards, > > -- > Josep Pujadas > -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Trouble with softsynths
The two most common reasons for this sort of thing are that either you have no soundfont loaded in your softsynth, or else that you haven't set up RG to route its midi output through the softsynth that you have. The solution to the first one will vary with the synth you're using, but should be pretty easy to figure out. Qsynth has a pretty self explanatory setup window for loading fonts. To solve the second, from the main RG window go to Studio -> Manage Midi Devices and make sure that your synth is showing as one of the available midi outputs and that it is selected. The whole getting the sound going thing is a bit of a barrier to entry, but it gets easier from there. Hope this helps. On 12/25/11, tim true wrote: > Hi, I am probably overlooking something, but I am unable to get any sound > out of rosegarden. I have mint11 (probably the version of rg that goes > along with that), and have a ton of compositions that I am unable to use > for their various purposes (I teach)... anyhow, I have tried to use > timidity, fluidsynth, zynaddsubfx, and some others, but nothing creates any > sound... How do I go about trying to fix this? (Yes, I have scoured the > manual, etc) any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!! > -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] controlling attack?
A slightly more off topic solution is to make your own sound font using swami or viena, and to create multiple velocity layers with differing attack times. (Viena - not vienna - is a windows program, but it works for me under wine). I've made a few guitar fonts like this with progressively longer attack times at lower velocity levels to create a volume swell effect. Just be warned that both swami and viena are very odd and therefore frustrating programs. For instance, both authors have seen fit to reimplement their own file choosers which are significantly inferior to the standard options available. Think they'd have enough to do just dealing with the sf2 end of things, but go figure. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] ROSEGARDEN 11.11.42, codename "Edelweiss" RELEASED
Nice work. Strange to see RG running on windows. -- Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Alternative repeats
Btw, as far as playing a second ending goes (rather than notating one) RG will truncate a repeated segment as soon as it encounters any other segment in that track, so it's pretty easy to get it to play an alternate ending by simply plopping down the desired second ending as a new segment in the appropriate place and then toggling the repeat property of the segment you want to repeat. I do this quite a bit. -- What Every C/C++ and Fortran developer Should Know! Read this article and learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help Windows* and Linux* C/C++ and Fortran developers boost performance applications - including clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Percussion is silent or sounds like piano
Again, I don't use timidity either (Why are you?) However, I'd guess that the synth is set to use a percussion preset not contained in your soundfont, hence the silence. Try changing the percussion preset you are using until you get some sound. Might want to try using fluidsynth instead also, since that's what most folks on this list use. -- Forrester Wave Report - Recovery time is now measured in hours and minutes not days. Key insights are discussed in the 2010 Forrester Wave Report as part of an in-depth evaluation of disaster recovery service providers. Forrester found the best-in-class provider in terms of services and vision. Read this report now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/ibm-webcastpromo ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Is there a collection of permissively licensed example/demo .rg files?
A search for Rosegarden at soundcloud.com will turn up quite a few things. -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. And it wants your games. http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Sure Is Hard to Record Rosegarden's Output
Sorry if my ardour remarks gave the impression that I thought I needed ardour to get a recording. I know it's an audio routing issue. Problem is, bouncing the master signal to a rosegarden input causes rosegarden to lock up (on my system, anyway). And audacity seems a bit daft at finding the signal. Presumably this has something to do with using it as the default recorder in RG. For instance, audacity's effects menu just lists RG's plugins while RG is running and things like fade out or fade in are out taking a smoke. Think using anything but audacity and screwing around with jack's path bay will solve the problem. Thanks for the help. On 3/20/11, david wrote: > I'm sure Ardour is worth it, but I disagree with the phrase "small > amount of time" to get used to it. It think it is very complex software > and not at all easy to learn unless you're already an audio engineer. > > steve conrad wrote: >> Thanks for the info. >> >> I'll have to set aside some time to figure out ardour. >> >> On 3/19/11, Al Thompson wrote: >>> On 03/20/2011 01:07 AM, steve conrad wrote: >>> >>>> In the end, I just stuck a jumper cable from my headphone jack to my >>>> line in and dumped it onto an RG audio track. But surely there's a >>>> more elegant solution available. >>>> >>> Use qjackctrl to do this. In the patchbay, connect RG's master outputs >>> to two RG inputs, and enable those to record. >>> >>> Learn Ardour. It's well worth the small amount of time it takes to get >>> used to it. It was actually far more intuitive to me, since it is based >>> much more closely on an actual audio mixer/recorder. I actually sync >>> Ardour and RG together using the jack transport and do all of my audio >>> stuff in Ardour, while using RG as a sequencer and synth host. I've >>> found this to be the best of both worlds for me, and the best workflow. >>> I greatly prefer to mix in Ardour anyway, and by doing it this way, all >>> of the audio is already there and a rough mix is done. > > -- > David > gn...@hawaii.rr.com > authenticity, honesty, community > > -- > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > -- Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Sure Is Hard to Record Rosegarden's Output
Thanks for the info. I'll have to set aside some time to figure out ardour. On 3/19/11, Al Thompson wrote: > On 03/20/2011 01:07 AM, steve conrad wrote: > >> In the end, I just stuck a jumper cable from my headphone jack to my >> line in and dumped it onto an RG audio track. But surely there's a >> more elegant solution available. >> > > Use qjackctrl to do this. In the patchbay, connect RG's master outputs > to two RG inputs, and enable those to record. > > Learn Ardour. It's well worth the small amount of time it takes to get > used to it. It was actually far more intuitive to me, since it is based > much more closely on an actual audio mixer/recorder. I actually sync > Ardour and RG together using the jack transport and do all of my audio > stuff in Ardour, while using RG as a sequencer and synth host. I've > found this to be the best of both worlds for me, and the best workflow. > I greatly prefer to mix in Ardour anyway, and by doing it this way, all > of the audio is already there and a rough mix is done. > > > -- > > Check out the website I've been cobbling together. It will never be > done, but it's a start: > http://lateralforce.no-ip.org > > > My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, > mixing, equipment, etc, is at: >http://audioandmore.wordpress.com > > > Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; > und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.' > - [Friedrich Nietzsche] > > -- > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > -- Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Sure Is Hard to Record Rosegarden's Output
Until lately, I haven't much used Rosegarden with both audio and midi data. I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to work with the audio in RG. Especially how I could chop things up and move them around without ending up with any nasty clicks. However, I just couldn't get the thing recorded for use in the outside world once I was done. Tried everything. Used Audacity with both jack and alsa hosts. Even pulse running through jack. But nothing worked. With jack, I could record qsynth or rosegarden's audio output, but not both. With alsa nothing worked. I tried all reasonable audio input sources (ie, I skipped the modem etc). Recording the system just gave me silence. Also tried setting the input to system on one of RG's audio channels and recording that way, but that just made RG hang. Also sort of tried Ardour, but it just made my head spin. That's a real tough program to figure out. Looks like it'd be nice if a fella had the time to set aside for it though. In the end, I just stuck a jumper cable from my headphone jack to my line in and dumped it onto an RG audio track. But surely there's a more elegant solution available. Btw, the audio in question can be heard at http://soundcloud.com/steveconrad/steve-conrad-rundle-saturday if anyone's interested in hearing a pleasant little chord change having the living crap beat out of it by an onslaught of filthy guitar playing. -- Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] pulse audio & qjackctl autostart
I'm not always needing a full audiophile experience when I'm using Rosegarden and frequently wish I could hear sound on a web page or use some other non-jack aware sound app without all the bother of shutting down jack to free up the sound card every time. I also wanted to start regular old non-jack pulse after closing jack. I found this page very helpful in getting pulse to run through jack: http://www.harald-hoyer.de/linux/pulseaudio-and-jackd However, since I pretty well always want to start qjackctl when I log in, I wanted to setup qjackctl to start automatically minimized to the system tray and to start pulse as a jack client. After a bit of screwing around, I've managed to make this happen on my system. Thought what I've figured out might be some help to others with similar requirements. First, of course, I had to add qjackctl to my startup programs (Startmenu->System->System->Startup Applications on my OpenSuse11.3 system) The attached jpeg shows the relevant settings in qjackctl. Execute Script On Startup: killall pulseaudio Execute Script After Startup: sleep 15; pulseaudio -nF ~/jack.pa & Execute Script After Shutdown: killall pulse audio; killall jackd; sleep 5; start-pulseaudio-x11 Please note that this won't work properly without the two sleep commands. In the first instance, pulse will try to start before jack is ready for it, in the second pulse will start in time to be killed by the killall command. Also that without the ampersand at the end of the second command qjackctl will hang waiting for the script to return control. If I set qjackctl to start jackd automatically, sometimes it fails to start and I have to restart it manually, but I find this to be a problem with qjackctl in general, so I just have it set up to be started manually. The file ~/jack.pa is as follows. It only differs from Harald Hoyer's in that I've changed module-volume-restore to module-stream-restore because pulse was complaining about it being obsolete: #!/usr/bin/pulseaudio -nF # load-module module-jack-sink load-module module-jack-source load-module module-native-protocol-unix load-module module-stream-restore load-module module-default-device-restore load-module module-rescue-streams load-module module-suspend-on-idle .ifexists module-gconf.so .nofail load-module module-gconf .fail .endif .ifexists module-x11-publish.so .nofail load-module module-x11-publish .fail .endif <>-- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] pulse audio & qjackctl autostart
Just a quick addendum. Substituting module-volume-restore for module-stream-restore in jack.pa seems to solve the problem with the server sometimes failing to start on the first try. i.e. doing things like in Harald Hoyer's example works properly, and listening to pulse' nagging doesn't. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Real-time Linux needed?
Artist-X comes with a real time kernel and is based on Ubuntu, if you really want to have Ubuntu and kernel-rt together. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Re mapped channels with no sound
A slightly less crude approach is just to import the default studio into the file (Studio->Import Default Studio), then make whatever ever changes are necessary to get sound working ok and saving the file. I did this with Djer-Fire and it seems to be working ok. Apparently just making the changes and saving fails to get rid of whatever quirk it is in the old soundblaster based studio that makes the sound not work. Djer-Fire-v2.rg Description: audio/rosegarden-composition -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Re mapped channels with no sound
As a follow up to this I notice, as did Michael, that if you close the file and then open it again there in no sound once again. Checking the Studio->Manage Midi Devices window, everything is as I left it (i.e. [129:0] Synth Input Port is still selected. Restarting fluidsynth starts to solve the problem, but not quite, because after a fluid restart Studio->Manage Midi Devices is now back to [No Port]. Hmm. Reselecting [129:0] Synth Input Port gets the sound going again. Kind of a pain though. Some strange Rosegarden/Fluidsynth interaction going on there. On a related note, I'm unable to get any sound at all from anything unless I run Fluidsynth as root which isn't really how I like to do things. Jack and Rosegarden are ok as a regular user and Fluidsynth shows up in the relevant windows of qjackctl and rosegarden as if it's actually doing something. The green light on qsynth even flashes along in time with the music, but no sound. Not sure what's going on there. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Re mapped channels with no sound
Since the older examples you write of were installed, Rosegarden has made some changes to the way channels are setup. "Beginning with version 10.02, Rosegarden no longer provides controls for changing the channel associated with each MIDI instrument Instead each instrument uses the same channel as its instruemnt number." The first thing to get some sound going, is to go to the Studio->Manage MIDI devices menu and make sure you have output sent to fluidsynth. (Some of these examples were written to run through a soundblaster 128 rather than fluidsynth, so when they don't find the soundblaster they just give up and send midi output to [No Port]). Here's what I see when I open this window after opening Bogus Surf Jam: MIDI Outputs: [129:0] Synth Input Port [14:0] Midi Through Port [No Port] X I get no sound because I have [No Port] selected. Clicking on [129:0] Synth Input Port and closing the window will be enough to give me some sort of sound. However, Rosegarden doesn't do a perfect job of assigning sf2 patches to the channels in these cases. The most noticable problem for me, is that channel 9 which is supposed to be the drum kit comes up as choir vocals which won't be in the right key or anything.(C major rather than G minor). To fix this, select track 9 in that middle area listing all the different tracks and then edit the track parameters at the bottom left corner.. First check the check boxes for bank and program. From the drop down menu for banks select bank 1:0 to get the bank with all the drum kits in it. Then from the Program drop down menu select what ever drum set you want. For me this put everything to rights. But you might want to play around with the Program assignment for the other tracks as well. Except of course that for melodic instrument you'll want to be using bank 0:0 rather than bank 1:0. This change from Rosegarden 10.02 has been fairly unkind to the examples I've contributed since I invariable write the drums on two different tracks one of which always comes up as a random out of tune racket. I do this because all the cymbals and hi-hat positions can be written out without accidentals in the key of B Major, while kick snare and toms are all available without accidentals in the key of C. Also I find it easier to work out as two tracks. The three examples in question are Bogus Surf Jam, D'jer Fire and Stormy Riders. Perhaps I should fix these up and resubmit them. It is a bit of a pain to get them going. Hope this helps. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Fave studio distro
I was using Artist X for quite a while. http://www.artistx.org/site3/ It's a live distribution that's distributed as a live DVD image. Based on Ubuntu 10.04. Comes with a whole shit load of linux sound apps, including Rosegarden, jack and fluisynth. Also the default kernel has the real time patch applied to it. Pretty handy, unless you're like me and find Ubuntu an annoying linux distribution. Anyway, if you install it to the harddrive or a USB stick and let it grind away at the updates, you'll end up with a pretty current set of everything. Personally, I much prefer running OpenSuse. Seems to be aimed at adults a bit more than Ubuntu is. Only problem is, the realtime kernel for OpenSuse 11.3 won't boot on my system anymore (i.e. since I updated it last time). My attempts to compile my own real time kernel always end up with my b43 wireless card not working. All messages on this subject have been met with deafening silence at the linux-rt, linux wireless and OpenSuse mailing lists. Not really sure what the matter is, but I won't get into it here. My current solution is to run the Ubuntu real time kernel on OpenSuse 11.3. This yields the rather odd (for an OpenSuse machine) uname results below: steve@lizard:~> uname -a Linux lizard 2.6.31-11-rt #154-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Jun 9 12:28:53 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Works very well for me, even if it is a bit of a hillybilly's truck with mismatched body parts. ( I have one of those trucks of my own, btw ). -- Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. Free Software Download: http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
