Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc1 released

2014-11-04 Thread François Bissey
I have these rather unpleasant failure: sage -t --long --warn-long 76.2 src/sage/tests/cmdline.py ** File "src/sage/tests/cmdline.py", line 222, in sage.tests.cmdline.test_executable Failed example: print out Expected: 34

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-11-04 22:31, Harald Schilly wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: In my opinion, doctest output should be the actual output of a Sage run somewhere and not artificially be adjusted Well, if there are different outputs for the same input, which one to pick? An

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-11-04 22:02, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: I think its the way we treat tolerance which changed It's true that the way we treat tolerance has changed, see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16889 But that's not the reason for the failed tests, the reason is http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16858

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > In my opinion, doctest output should be the actual output of a Sage run > somewhere and not artificially be adjusted Well, if there are different outputs for the same input, which one to pick? IMHO, in this case it's actually better to cle

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-11-04 21:58, Thierry wrote: Enlagring the tolerance for catching the correct result instead of taking this correct result as the centered expectation looks like an odd fix ! On the other hand, don't forget that doctests serve not only as *tests* but also as *docs*. I think it's good to h

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Volker Braun
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:58:54 PM UTC, Thierry wrote: > > all those numerical noise appearing suddenly, couldn't that mean that > some numerical algorithm became less stable/accurate somewhere in the > code ? No, it is because we print more digits now. -- You received this message bec

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread François Bissey
It could. But in this case looking at the 1e-15 tolerance I think that we are just hitting numerical noise because the specification for double doesn't insure that those last decimals are exact. And even if it was for a single computation we could be hit by rounding error if there is a number of

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:58:54 PM UTC+1, Thierry wrote: > > Hi, > > all those numerical noise appearing suddenly, couldn't that mean that > some numerical algorithm became less stable/accurate somewhere in the > code ? > > I think its the way we treat tolerance which changed, so no real

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Thierry
Hi, all those numerical noise appearing suddenly, couldn't that mean that some numerical algorithm became less stable/accurate somewhere in the code ? If it turns out to be the case, we should thank doctests for the discovery, not asking them to shut up by enlarging the tolerance ! Also, in the

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:02:00 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: > > Since they are machine-dependent numerical noise its not going to get > fixed unless you tell us what failed. > > Sure, don't worry, I'll open a ticket for that. It is #17921. -- You received this message because you are s

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Volker Braun
Since they are machine-dependent numerical noise its not going to get fixed unless you tell us what failed. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:54:19 PM UTC, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > I didn't check but would say so as the failures happen in other files. > Namely in the different translations of: >

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread John Cremona
On 4 November 2014 15:42, Volker Braun wrote: > Do you get any failures with #17278? > 2 pass, 1 still fails: File "src/sage/tests/french_book/linsolve_doctest.py", line 51, in sage.tests.french_book.linsolve_doctest Failed example: x = A\b; x # rel tol 1e-15 Expected: (-0.2

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I didn't check but would say so as the failures happen in other files. Namely in the different translations of: src/doc/en/tutorial/tour_linalg.rst -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-release" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Volker Braun
Do you get any failures with #17278? On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 1:58:34 PM UTC, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:16:43 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: >> >> It's a long time since I have done a "make ptestlong" and not had >> several test failures. I have done "ma

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread John Cremona
On 4 November 2014 13:56, Volker Braun wrote: > At least the ones you mention are in #17278 which will be in rc2 Good! looking forward to it. John > > > On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 1:16:43 PM UTC, John Cremona wrote: >> >> It's a long time since I have done a "make ptestlong" and not had >> se

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:16:43 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: > > It's a long time since I have done a "make ptestlong" and not had > several test failures. I have done "make distclean" first and have > pulled the latest develop branch (commit > 8b95db32005c62e289d6698e8233218d5fda0f60)

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Volker Braun
At least the ones you mention are in #17278 which will be in rc2 On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 1:16:43 PM UTC, John Cremona wrote: > > It's a long time since I have done a "make ptestlong" and not had > several test failures. I have done "make distclean" first and have > pulled the latest develo

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread John Cremona
It's a long time since I have done a "make ptestlong" and not had several test failures. I have done "make distclean" first and have pulled the latest develop branch (commit 8b95db32005c62e289d6698e8233218d5fda0f60) but see this: sage -t --long src/sage/matrix/matrix_double_dense.pyx # 1 doctest

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread Volker Braun
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:49:10 AM UTC, leif wrote: > > Well, if a (potential) argument follows '-n' Its not a hand-written parser, duh. Also, that is not how command line tools work. > > On the plus side the error that you'll get is pretty self-explanatory. > CRITICAL:root:unknown, >

Re: [sage-release] Sage 6.4.rc0 released

2014-11-04 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: You can't really deprecate that yet make the notebook selectable, either -n takes an option or not. Well, if a (potential) argument follows '-n', but doesn't match any of 'ipython', 'sagenb', nor 'default', we should probably default to 'default'... ;-) (Not to mention it