On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 5:54 PM Jack Aboutboul wrote:
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> Hi Bonnie, Dave, et. al.
>
> I am a long time Fedora person and now the community manager of AlmaLinux.
Cool. I've set up a VM with AlmaLinux 8 myself, it's been well behaved so far.
This kind of friendly outreach to the community is
On 05/05/2021 00:38, Yasha Karant wrote:
> I have not attempted to get a "dev" IBM RH license that supposedly is
> at no cost -- has anyone done so and down a full buildable source
> download?
Just go here to create a free dev account (which allows up to 16 RHEL
instances and, of course, access
I fully concur -- a clear statement of a concern about the source and
any authentication/pay-walls limiting access to that source. I assume
that the official rebuilders other than SL have paid the necessary fees
to download the real, actual, production IBM RH EL buildable source as
referenced
On 04/05/2021 23:41, Leon Fauster wrote:
> The source are at
>
On 05.05.21 00:10, Mark Rousell wrote:
On 04/05/2021 21:42, Yasha Karant wrote:
Your statement at the end indicates that I have missed a source
distribution channel.
Sorry, which statement is that?
Just for the avoidance of doubt, my comment about "Discourse" was a
reference to the
On 04/05/2021 21:42, Yasha Karant wrote:
> Your statement at the end indicates that I have missed a source
> distribution channel.
Sorry, which statement is that?
Just for the avoidance of doubt, my comment about "Discourse" was a
reference to the Discourse software
On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense,
with everybody stuck with el7 for another 3 years and
bye, bye, c++14, c++17, c++20.
Is Red Hat Developer Toolset 10
On 04/05/2021 21:51, Jack Aboutboul wrote:
> Yes and contrary to the pure FUD that has been spread around, the AlmaLinux
> OS Foundation is in fact a 501©6 non-profit and our governing board includes
> a leadership from diverse backgrounds, some from industry and even Simon
> Phipps, former
The HEP community may have significantly changed since my last
accelerator based research efforts (as part of collaborations).
If by "site-wide", you mean each individual collaborating group,
typically housed at different universities (or equivalent) around the
world, has its own sysadmin and
On 5/4/21 3:42 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
You state that there will not be a CentOS 9 and only a CentOS Stream
perpetual alpha or beta channel. I thought that IBM RH would not
directly release buildable production EL source, but would channel it
under a CentOS moniker. CentOS Stream is *NOT*
Yes and contrary to the pure FUD that has been spread around, the AlmaLinux OS
Foundation is in fact a 501©6 non-profit and our governing board includes a
leadership from diverse backgrounds, some from industry and even Simon Phipps,
former president and current standard & policy director at
For our use, free is definitely a positive, but not a requirement.
We deploy our product's control systems and are really looking for the
long term stability and security patches. I wouldn't have a problem
with purchasing licenses, as long as it didn't get in the way. That
meaning, not
Your statement at the end indicates that I have missed a source
distribution channel. The discourse concerning the ergonomics of a list
such as this versus an eyecandy "Ask Ubuntu" (with character count
limitations on the length of postings) approach is worthwhile, but
perhaps at a later time
On 04/05/2021 20:51, James M. Pulver wrote:
> Honestly, I've seen a lot of the FLOSS community prefer Rocky over Alma, and
> I think it's because Rocky is actually not backed by any company. However, we
> see how that went before, and I just think Rocky as described is ripe for
> CENTOS 2.0 to
On 04/05/2021 18:01, Yasha Karant wrote:
> then one is forced to either Rocky or AlmaLinux, assuming either
> pushes out an EL 9 clone as soon as CentOS or other IBM RH buildable
> source is released.
Well, we know there's not going to be a CentOS 9. There will obviously
be a CentOS Stream 9 but,
One small point about Princeton, as clearly pointed out to me by the
Institute for Advanced Study (IAS). The Springdale EL distro is NOT from
nor supported by Princeton University -- IAS is a separate entity. It
appears from what I can garner that Springdale is not a project to which
IAS
Jack,
From what I can tell, SL users is not a developers/internals list as
such -- those also exist. It is an experienced, "sysadmin", porting,
running, and defect-work-around list. Many of the questions that I have
asked and the few that I have answered are similar to what I have posted
to
Honestly, I've seen a lot of the FLOSS community prefer Rocky over Alma, and I
think it's because Rocky is actually not backed by any company. However, we see
how that went before, and I just think Rocky as described is ripe for CENTOS
2.0 to me. It's even run by one of the CENTOS founders, so
Maybe the AlmaLinux reddit (might also be one for Rocky?
--
James Pulver
CLASSE Computer Group
Cornell University
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To:
Dave,
Thanks for your response. My message was going to everyone on the list, not
necessarily just the decision makers. To me/us it’s important to involve the
whole community not just any specific decision makers.
Thanks for your feedback. If you don’t mind, can you just give me more
Thanks Konstantin for all of this great information.
I'll second the recommendation to watch Troy's video.
It makes me feel a bit more comfortable that Alma/Rocky will be able to
deliver the 10 years of updates.
I still have a sour taste for this new "module" packaging scheme. It
seems to
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:14:11PM +, Dave Dykstra wrote:
> Here's a presentation at HEPiX'21 from CERN that's publicly available:
> https://indico.cern.ch/event/995485/contributions/4256466/
Thank you for the link, I was not aware of this presentation.
For further reading, it contains a
If I correctly have read the IBH RH EL9 CentOS announcement below, EL 9
will be in production before the end of this year, leapfrogging EL 8 as
it were. I wonder how much of this is due to the various issues with EL
8? As SL 8 is not happening, SL 9 certainly is not -- forcing one to
choose
On 04.05.21 17:41, Dave Dykstra wrote:
Yasha,
I'll try to answer as I understand things as an observer.
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:51:30PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote:
...
1. Fermilab and the non-CERN HEP community are not part of the Linux Future
Community analysis as far as I can read, but
Yasha,
I'll try to answer as I understand things as an observer.
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:51:30PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote:
...
> 1. Fermilab and the non-CERN HEP community are not part of the Linux Future
> Community analysis as far as I can read, but are consulted later after the
>
Hi Jack,
I am not involved in the decision-making regarding Linux here at
Fermilab, so I'm just a community member as well. I think it's good
to have options but in my opinion the Rocky Linux effort is better
positioned for long term support by the community than AlmaLinux is.
Dave
On Mon,
Thanks for your review of CentOS stream. Very helpful.
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To:
When the Centos 8 news came out, I tried out Centos Stream against our
configuration. Kickstart and Puppet config needed very little change and I was
able to bring up a VM in our lab config quite easily.
I have two observations:
1) Updates are sparse, none for ages then a large batch of
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