Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-02 Thread .
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 17:31, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: Err..I'm not sure who you're talking about? I was talking about the guy in the article who warns off the NYT reporter saying that he will complain to her superiors... Ah Badri, you were replying to me recounting the Indian

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:02:28AM +0530, ashok _ wrote: You relocated and during your childhood. You think thats the same as relocating when you are an adult or when you have kids? When you've relocated once or twice, it gets easier with time. Kids have it easier, if anything. -- Eugen*

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread ashok _
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: You relocated and during your childhood. You think thats the same as relocating when you are an adult or when you have kids? When you've relocated once or twice, it gets easier with time. Kids have it easier, if anything. I

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ashok _ [01/12/2009 3:15 PM]: The biggest stress for my folks was getting school admissions as sometimes we moved during the middle of the school year. Most of my childhood memories revolve around writing school entrance exams or packing things into boxes. Your dad was in the army and you

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread ashok _
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Your dad was in the army and you weren't a KV brat?   That kind of situation is just why every single armed forces base had a KV onsite, plus at least one other school, quite often .. both of which would be quite

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Deepa Mohan
Err..I'm not sure who you're talking about? I was talking about the guy in the article who warns off the NYT reporter saying that he will complain to her superiors... I am also uncomfortable with this kind of sub-text references to any particular person. the point is (as has just

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Radhika, Y.
indeed having a spouse of another culture makes any return to india complicated. our first criterion is that Mike should be able to find good work in landscape architecture (assuming that I will as well!). also where we return to work in India is an issue. overall i find it freeing to admit

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepa Mohan [01/12/09 17:31 +0530]: Err..I'm not sure who you're talking about? I was talking about the guy in the article who warns off the NYT reporter saying that he will complain to her superiors... I am also uncomfortable with this kind of sub-text references to any particular person.

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: snip let's NOT talk about any particular people, snap Gee Deepa, you've gone from saying let's say nothing bad about anything, to let's say nothing about anybody. Darn, this forum, and by extension, the

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: snip let's NOT talk about any particular people, snap Gee Deepa, you've gone from saying let's say nothing bad about anything,

[silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say - I agree. Cheeni http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/business/global/28return.html?_r=1src=twpagewanted=all Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again By HEATHER TIMMONS Published: November 27, 2009 NEW DELHI — When

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote: I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say - I agree. Cheeni The article also does not mention a very major factor...the difficulties that the children of the repats, born and raised in

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Badri Natarajan
to adjust to a very different set of circumstances, a whole new culture, that is often perceived as very restrictive, their inabliity to cope with the huge extended families that were never in the picture in their home country. I agree in general, but why the quotes? The US (or wherever) *is*

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
behavior that would have got him fired just as fast stateside as he was from csir. --Original Message-- From: Deepa Mohan Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Some Indians Find

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say - I agree. I am quoting here the bits I definitely felt myself relating to. But a study by Mr. Wadhwa and other academics found that 34 percent

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread .
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 17:45, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say - I agree. [snip] would be interested in the situation, and then said he would complain to a reporter’s bosses in New York if she continued to

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Badri Natarajan
would be interested in the situation, and then said he would complain to a reporter’s bosses in New York if she continued to pursue the story. ah, nothing new and the intimidation is not restricted to the corporate world or govt sector firms. The 'complain to bosses/friends-up-there'

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread ss
On Monday 30 Nov 2009 5:45:06 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again And some Indians find it easy. Big deal shiv

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread ss
On Monday 30 Nov 2009 6:33:32 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: The US became home within 1 year of getting there. While India remains close to my heart, it remains elusive as home even after 4 years of trying to fit in. It takes 10 years to become Indian. shiv

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
. [30/11/09 18:47 +0530]: corporate world or govt sector firms. The 'complain to bosses/friends-up-there' intimidation tactics is my personal experience within the Indian FLOSS community. I suspect you simply ran across the same person a lot of us on this list did. Next please? srs

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
2009/11/30 Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com: that the children of the repats, born and raised in the US,face when trying May I submit that repat is derogatory, as it implies someone shipped home at the expense of the GoI? I propose cowpat instead. Ram

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/30 Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com: that the children of the repats, born and raised in the US,face when trying May I submit that repat is derogatory, as it implies someone shipped home at the

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread ashok _
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Returnees run into trouble when they “look Indian but think American,” OMG, do I relate to this one. I dont live in North America ... but I still feel the disconnect everytime I fly from Nairobi into India. The

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Radhika, Y.
Kiran's rant is reminiscent of Reagan era America when jingoism was at its peak. I guess that language transcends cultures!

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/12/1 Thaths tha...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: Please, do us a favor, stay where you are and don't come back. For every repat that rants, there is one that digs in, and contributes without cribbing. If you still

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/12/1 Radhika, Y. radhik...@gmail.com Kiran's rant is reminiscent of Reagan era America when jingoism was at its peak. I guess that language transcends cultures! Is asking those who crib and quit to rather participate and solve the problem categorized as being extremely nationalist?

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/12/1 Radhika, Y. radhik...@gmail.com when you phrase it as an exhortation to participate This is what I was trying to say with For every repat that rants, there is one that digs in, and contributes without cribbing. Its interesting how you picked up the bit of my post most easy to

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Thaths
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/1 Thaths tha...@gmail.com Could we have more reasoned arguments than the likes of Put up or shut up, You call yourself Indian?! and Go back to Massachusetts, Wuss!? The reasoned argument was dig in

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread ashok _
You relocated and during your childhood. You think thats the same as relocating when you are an adult or when you have kids? On 12/1/09, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/30 Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread .
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 19:29, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote: True, but hardly restricted to India. This guy mostly stands out for being clumsy about it. ...clumsy? as in, lying and pretending to be a woman on a woman-only list (which is neither new nor surprising) to dig into their

Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread .
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 02:43, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: The reasoned argument was dig in and solve the problem instead of complaining/quitting/swimming against the tide from the word go. As an Indian-Born-Confused-Desi I'm curious to know how one would dig in and