Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-07-09 Thread VaibhaV Sharma
On Jul 7, 2007, at 1:36 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: Unlocking an iphone doesn't get you the whole package iirc. There are features such as visual voice mail that require special iphone support on the telco side. Have your friends in India thought that one out? Yes I know the details. People

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-07-07 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
Unlocking an iphone doesn't get you the whole package iirc. There are features such as visual voice mail that require special iphone support on the telco side. Have your friends in India thought that one out? Also, are they willing to pay the contract early termination fee that must be at least a

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-07-06 Thread Ingrid
Blogger in Upper Turkfakistan has Absolutely No Opinion on the iPhone. He was of course arrested shortly afterwards. Interrogations so far have failed to determine the reasons for his refusal to write about the popular product. Ahmed can now be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] "He seemed unaware of

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-07-05 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 12:51:07PM -0700, VaibhaV Sharma wrote: > Gah! They try. Everyone wanted a piece of the publicity of the > iPhone. I know people who said - "Gah! iPhone, too restricted. Can't > write apps for it. Won't work." And now the same people are saying "I > told you so. Web a

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-07-05 Thread VaibhaV Sharma
On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:28 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote: I saw this in one of my RSS feeds: http://www.forbes.com/2007/06/19/iphone-security-risk-tech-security- cx_ag_0619iphonesecurity.html (or http://tinyurl.com/2huxru). What is the general opinion? We were at a local apple store at ar

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2007-06-30 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Danese Cooper wrote: [ on 03:57 PM 6/30/2007 ] Where did you get the idea that you must go through iTunes? I grab music from lots of sources, in .mp3 .wav and other standard formats. Quicktime plays them, and they only convert to .aac if I say to. Also, its a single checkbox to mount an iPod as

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 29-Jun-07, at 6:58 PM, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote: What is the general opinion? I am one of those who turned in a Blackberry for a far more useful Sony Ericsson P990i. More likely this kind of article is coming from shills trying to undermine the iPhone even before it is launched (Rob Enderle

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2007-06-30 Thread Danese Cooper
udhay, Where did you get the idea that you must go through iTunes? I grab music from lots of sources, in .mp3 .wav and other standard formats. Quicktime plays them, and they only convert to .aac if I say to. Also, its a single checkbox to mount an iPod as an external drive. I back stuff

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 30-Jun-07, at 11:09 AM, shiv sastry wrote: Can I ask a stupid question as a prelude to a convoluted answer? How does an iPod differ from any one of a number of similar music/ other media reproducing devices in the market? Isn't owning an "iPod" a fashion statement or is content for iPods

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Binand Sethumadhavan
On 30/06/07, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A beautiful user interface, extremely good product design overall, and the Reality Distortion Field [1]. And the iTunes Music Store. A lot of people here prefer to shell out the £0.79 iTunes store charges per song (often just 2-3 per album

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 shiv sastry said the following on 30/06/2007 09:39: > Can I ask a stupid question as a prelude to a convoluted answer? > > How does an iPod differ from any one of a number of similar music/other media > reproducing devices in the market? Having us

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Udhay Shankar N
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 11:09 AM 6/30/2007 ] Can I ask a stupid question as a prelude to a convoluted answer? How does an iPod differ from any one of a number of similar music/other media reproducing devices in the market? A beautiful user interface, extremely good product design overall, an

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Brian McNett
On 6/29/07, Binand Sethumadhavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: what do you think of the iPhone? Having purchased one today, I can now speak definitively about the device. The interface is every bit as slick as the now-ubiquitous online demos make it seem. The touch-screen is nearly as intuitive

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread shiv sastry
On Friday 29 Jun 2007 6:58 pm, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote: > What is the general opinion? Can I ask a stupid question as a prelude to a convoluted answer? How does an iPod differ from any one of a number of similar music/other media reproducing devices in the market? Isn't owning an "iPod" a fa

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 30-Jun-07, at 8:02 AM, Vinit Bhansali wrote: Also, NPR radio was stating something to the affect of AT&T having a 5 year lock-in exclusive to selling the iPhone. How the heck did Apple get cornered into that? Two year lock-in for the American market only.

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Casey O'Donnell
On 6/29/07, Chris Kantarjiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The SIM card is physically sealed inside the phone, according to one site. Looks like it's at least possible to change the SIM card... if it will work is another matter. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305746 CKO

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Vinit Bhansali
> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > et] On Behalf Of Chris Kantarjiev > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 3:23 PM > To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > Subject: Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts? > > > Rumor has it that phone > > will be unlocked for

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Vinit Bhansali
silklist@lists.hserus.net > Subject: Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts? > > Oh, I don't know about that...my husband uses AT&T in NYC for > data connectivity and it is s-l-o-w. So, no EDGE I guess. > > Folks who reviewed the iPhone like Pogue talk about the > slow

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Vinit Bhansali
> Kamla wrote: > > Connecting to the Internet is slow as molasses because of > the Cingular/AT&T network, which is not the greatest. > Unless you are looking to download large files (over ten's of mb) or looking to hookup the cellphone to your laptop to act as your laptop's internet gat

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Vinit Bhansali
Well, in America, it is still fashionable to get excited about mobile phones. This must be the first phone in years (or ever) to get released in the US without already selling in Europe/Asia! - Vinit > Eugen wrote: > > It seems EDGE is getting 200 kBps lately. > > Let's see, it's mid 2007, and s

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, I don't know about that...my husband uses AT&T in NYC for data connectivity and it is s-l-o-w. So, no EDGE I guess. Folks who reviewed the iPhone like Pogue talk about the slow connectivity. More on EDGE here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1770749,00.asp Kamla Eugen

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 12:23:23PM -0700, Chris Kantarjiev wrote: > You can't buy the phone without signing up for a two-year AT&T contract. What is this AT&T thing you speak of? > The SIM card is physically sealed inside the phone, according to one site. > > I suspect that these phones will n

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
> Rumor has it that phone > will be unlocked for other SIM cards only after signing up for a > cingular contract. No, you've got it wrong. You can't buy the phone without signing up for a two-year AT&T contract. The SIM card is physically sealed inside the phone, according to one site. I suspe

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Danese Cooper
There's a wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Packer and lots of coverage on FakeSteveJobs about the first guy in line. He's a "first in line" hobbyist. I suspect he doesn't really want an iPhone, just a chance for more media attention. Danese On Jun 29, 2007, at 11:37 AM

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 11:37:09AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Connecting to the Internet is slow as molasses because of the Cingular/AT&T > network, which is not the greatest. It seems EDGE is getting 200 kBps lately. Let's see, it's mid 2007, and still no wearable yet. People are get

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The iPhone hype is more of a media frenzy from what I can see here in New York. The line for the iPhone consisted of less than 35 people as of Thursday eveningn in NYC. Last evening I went down to the Apple Store in New York and spoke to the guy who is first in line to buy the iPhone. Chec

Re: [silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Thaths
On 6/29/07, Binand Sethumadhavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: what do you think of the iPhone? Too tightly tied to a Cingular/AT&T mobile contract for my liking. Touchscreen (and how usable it is to type) is an unknown quantity to me. UI looks beautiful. WiFi capabilities are a godsend in cities

[silk] IPhone - Thoughts?

2007-06-29 Thread Binand Sethumadhavan
I saw this in one of my RSS feeds: http://www.forbes.com/2007/06/19/iphone-security-risk-tech-security-cx_ag_0619iphonesecurity.html (or http://tinyurl.com/2huxru). What is the general opinion? I am one of those who turned in a Blackberry for a far more useful Sony Ericsson P990i. More likely t