Re: [silk] Introduction about myself

[Deepa Mohan]

Ramakrishna Reddy  did post pics on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/silklist/?fref=gs=5083012209_location=group_dialog

(Is this a valid link?)

Alas, he was not one of the 5 people there (Udhay, Vinit, Surabhi,  Meera,
Savitha) I know face to face...I asked him to provide namesbut perhaps
in the interest of privacy (on FaceBook?)...it hasn't happened yet.

Cheers,Deepa.



On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Preetha Chari-Srinivas 
wrote:

> Hi Deepa,
> Thank you for your feedback, and I hope to meet you some time soon, as
> well.
> Btw, Udhay and Vinit - the pictures of the Silk party? :)
> Have a great week ahead, folks.
> Regards,
> -pcs.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Deepa Mohan  wrote:
>
> > Very impressive, PCS! I hope to meet you face-to-face sometime...
> >
> > I too am unable to make it for the silken birthdayhere's wishing all
> of
> > you a great evening! Vinit and Surabhi, I feel even sorrier because you
> are
> > hosting it. No excuses, as I was very much looking forward to it...but I
> > was awake at 3.30am  to see off Derek, Anjana and their children (going
> to
> > Maine for Christmas) , and then I had a nature walk to conduct. I know
> that
> > if I come over, I will yawn my way  through, and miss all the Intelligent
> > Conversation (much of which passes overhead anyway!)
> >
> > I like the way everyone who lurks (and unlurks) here compliments all of
> us!
> >
> > Cheers, Deepa.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Preetha Chari-Srinivas <
> > bling...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This feels like a count-down to the ball being dropped in Times Square
> on
> > > the New Year eve here...
> > >
> > > As I had promised Udhay, here goes my introductory mail..although I
> have
> > > been a member of the group for a while (not sure when I joined it, but
> > > thanks to my friend Bharat Shetty Barkur - I get to lurk in the
> > background,
> > > admiring the geeks and non-geeks of this group from afar).
> > > I happen to be hard of hearing, but I strictly communicate orally and
> am
> > an
> > > excellent lip-reader. I consider myself to be a jack of all trades and
> a
> > > master of none - with a long athletic/competitive tennis career (did
> > dabble
> > > as a tennis coach for a while, to make ends meet), which I had to
> abandon
> > > in order to pursue my higher studies (a must for our middle-class
> family,
> > > where 'education is wealth' - which I do not fully agree with, since
> > there
> > > are instances of people doing equally well without any fancy degrees
> > under
> > > their belt). I strongly believe that a sporting career helps develop
> the
> > > confidence, drive and independence in any individual, come what may.
> Some
> > > people are naturally gifted, while others make it to the top with sheer
> > > hard work, blood, sweat and tears, the latter category of which I fall
> > > into! I did dabble in poetry and painting, plus competitive yoga when I
> > was
> > > in my teens, but had to weed them all out, to focus solely on my tennis
> > > career. I am better known as a tennis player, although I consider
> myself
> > to
> > > be a decent athlete. I have a passion for travel, for it helps widen my
> > > horizons, and I do enjoy going on long drives. I get to be in my
> elements
> > > on the road as well as on the courts.
> > > In any case, I have a background in Civil Engineering and a double
> > masters
> > > in Environmental Engineering and Science/Computer Science. I do not
> fall
> > > into any of the above, for I have never really gotten around to work in
> > > either the civil or environmental fields. Worked briefly in the IT
> > sector,
> > > before I realized it was not my cuppa joe.
> > > So, I am now back to square one, not to mention being broke, and
> > clueless,
> > > but still trying to chase my lofty dreams. I did be more than happy to
> > list
> > > them all out here, but would spare you the drudgery for another day :)
> To
> > > give you a brief glimpse into one of my goals, one of them is to make a
> > > foray into modeling, at such an advanced age!
> > > I am an ardent admirer of Jack Ma and J.K. Rowling and strongly believe
> > > that when you have the drive to do something, it is bound to work, no
> > > matter what. I do admire women who break the glass ceiling in their
> > > respective spheres
> > > As the fastest woman on two wheels once said"If someone is
> interested
> > > in something, they don't have to start off with a whole lot of money to
> > be
> > > successful at something they love. They just have to pursue it, and
> make
> > it
> > > happen".
> > > In closing, I would like to mention two of my favorite quotes by Johann
> > von
> > > Goethe:
> > > - *Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help them
> > to
> > > become what they are capable of being.*
> > > *- Plunge into the thick of life*
> > >
> > > I would give an arm and leg to be there for 

Re: [silk] Introduction about myself

[Preetha Chari-Srinivas]

Hi Deepa,
Thank you for your feedback, and I hope to meet you some time soon, as well.
Btw, Udhay and Vinit - the pictures of the Silk party? :)
Have a great week ahead, folks.
Regards,
-pcs.



On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Deepa Mohan  wrote:

> Very impressive, PCS! I hope to meet you face-to-face sometime...
>
> I too am unable to make it for the silken birthdayhere's wishing all of
> you a great evening! Vinit and Surabhi, I feel even sorrier because you are
> hosting it. No excuses, as I was very much looking forward to it...but I
> was awake at 3.30am  to see off Derek, Anjana and their children (going to
> Maine for Christmas) , and then I had a nature walk to conduct. I know that
> if I come over, I will yawn my way  through, and miss all the Intelligent
> Conversation (much of which passes overhead anyway!)
>
> I like the way everyone who lurks (and unlurks) here compliments all of us!
>
> Cheers, Deepa.
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Preetha Chari-Srinivas <
> bling...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This feels like a count-down to the ball being dropped in Times Square on
> > the New Year eve here...
> >
> > As I had promised Udhay, here goes my introductory mail..although I have
> > been a member of the group for a while (not sure when I joined it, but
> > thanks to my friend Bharat Shetty Barkur - I get to lurk in the
> background,
> > admiring the geeks and non-geeks of this group from afar).
> > I happen to be hard of hearing, but I strictly communicate orally and am
> an
> > excellent lip-reader. I consider myself to be a jack of all trades and a
> > master of none - with a long athletic/competitive tennis career (did
> dabble
> > as a tennis coach for a while, to make ends meet), which I had to abandon
> > in order to pursue my higher studies (a must for our middle-class family,
> > where 'education is wealth' - which I do not fully agree with, since
> there
> > are instances of people doing equally well without any fancy degrees
> under
> > their belt). I strongly believe that a sporting career helps develop the
> > confidence, drive and independence in any individual, come what may. Some
> > people are naturally gifted, while others make it to the top with sheer
> > hard work, blood, sweat and tears, the latter category of which I fall
> > into! I did dabble in poetry and painting, plus competitive yoga when I
> was
> > in my teens, but had to weed them all out, to focus solely on my tennis
> > career. I am better known as a tennis player, although I consider myself
> to
> > be a decent athlete. I have a passion for travel, for it helps widen my
> > horizons, and I do enjoy going on long drives. I get to be in my elements
> > on the road as well as on the courts.
> > In any case, I have a background in Civil Engineering and a double
> masters
> > in Environmental Engineering and Science/Computer Science. I do not fall
> > into any of the above, for I have never really gotten around to work in
> > either the civil or environmental fields. Worked briefly in the IT
> sector,
> > before I realized it was not my cuppa joe.
> > So, I am now back to square one, not to mention being broke, and
> clueless,
> > but still trying to chase my lofty dreams. I did be more than happy to
> list
> > them all out here, but would spare you the drudgery for another day :) To
> > give you a brief glimpse into one of my goals, one of them is to make a
> > foray into modeling, at such an advanced age!
> > I am an ardent admirer of Jack Ma and J.K. Rowling and strongly believe
> > that when you have the drive to do something, it is bound to work, no
> > matter what. I do admire women who break the glass ceiling in their
> > respective spheres
> > As the fastest woman on two wheels once said"If someone is interested
> > in something, they don't have to start off with a whole lot of money to
> be
> > successful at something they love. They just have to pursue it, and make
> it
> > happen".
> > In closing, I would like to mention two of my favorite quotes by Johann
> von
> > Goethe:
> > - *Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help them
> to
> > become what they are capable of being.*
> > *- Plunge into the thick of life*
> >
> > I would give an arm and leg to be there for the 20th reunion of Silk List
> > this evening, but unfortunately, unforeseen circumstances have played
> havoc
> > on my plans...
> >
> > Hopefully, I will get to see you folks during my travels, or at the
> silver
> > jubilee and golden jubilee celebrations, if it ever takes place, either
> in
> > India or anywhere else around the world. It helps to get some perspective
> > from well-read folks like you all...
> >
> > Regards,
> > - pcs.
> >
>

Re: [silk] Introduction about myself

[Deepa Mohan]

Very impressive, PCS! I hope to meet you face-to-face sometime...

I too am unable to make it for the silken birthdayhere's wishing all of
you a great evening! Vinit and Surabhi, I feel even sorrier because you are
hosting it. No excuses, as I was very much looking forward to it...but I
was awake at 3.30am  to see off Derek, Anjana and their children (going to
Maine for Christmas) , and then I had a nature walk to conduct. I know that
if I come over, I will yawn my way  through, and miss all the Intelligent
Conversation (much of which passes overhead anyway!)

I like the way everyone who lurks (and unlurks) here compliments all of us!

Cheers, Deepa.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Preetha Chari-Srinivas 
wrote:

> This feels like a count-down to the ball being dropped in Times Square on
> the New Year eve here...
>
> As I had promised Udhay, here goes my introductory mail..although I have
> been a member of the group for a while (not sure when I joined it, but
> thanks to my friend Bharat Shetty Barkur - I get to lurk in the background,
> admiring the geeks and non-geeks of this group from afar).
> I happen to be hard of hearing, but I strictly communicate orally and am an
> excellent lip-reader. I consider myself to be a jack of all trades and a
> master of none - with a long athletic/competitive tennis career (did dabble
> as a tennis coach for a while, to make ends meet), which I had to abandon
> in order to pursue my higher studies (a must for our middle-class family,
> where 'education is wealth' - which I do not fully agree with, since there
> are instances of people doing equally well without any fancy degrees under
> their belt). I strongly believe that a sporting career helps develop the
> confidence, drive and independence in any individual, come what may. Some
> people are naturally gifted, while others make it to the top with sheer
> hard work, blood, sweat and tears, the latter category of which I fall
> into! I did dabble in poetry and painting, plus competitive yoga when I was
> in my teens, but had to weed them all out, to focus solely on my tennis
> career. I am better known as a tennis player, although I consider myself to
> be a decent athlete. I have a passion for travel, for it helps widen my
> horizons, and I do enjoy going on long drives. I get to be in my elements
> on the road as well as on the courts.
> In any case, I have a background in Civil Engineering and a double masters
> in Environmental Engineering and Science/Computer Science. I do not fall
> into any of the above, for I have never really gotten around to work in
> either the civil or environmental fields. Worked briefly in the IT sector,
> before I realized it was not my cuppa joe.
> So, I am now back to square one, not to mention being broke, and clueless,
> but still trying to chase my lofty dreams. I did be more than happy to list
> them all out here, but would spare you the drudgery for another day :) To
> give you a brief glimpse into one of my goals, one of them is to make a
> foray into modeling, at such an advanced age!
> I am an ardent admirer of Jack Ma and J.K. Rowling and strongly believe
> that when you have the drive to do something, it is bound to work, no
> matter what. I do admire women who break the glass ceiling in their
> respective spheres
> As the fastest woman on two wheels once said"If someone is interested
> in something, they don't have to start off with a whole lot of money to be
> successful at something they love. They just have to pursue it, and make it
> happen".
> In closing, I would like to mention two of my favorite quotes by Johann von
> Goethe:
> - *Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help them to
> become what they are capable of being.*
> *- Plunge into the thick of life*
>
> I would give an arm and leg to be there for the 20th reunion of Silk List
> this evening, but unfortunately, unforeseen circumstances have played havoc
> on my plans...
>
> Hopefully, I will get to see you folks during my travels, or at the silver
> jubilee and golden jubilee celebrations, if it ever takes place, either in
> India or anywhere else around the world. It helps to get some perspective
> from well-read folks like you all...
>
> Regards,
> - pcs.
>

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

Whoops, sorry "Soumya"got changed to "Sowmya" ...Sorry about that!

On Sep 24, 2017 12:17, "Deepa Mohan"  wrote:

Welcome, Sowmya!

On Sep 23, 2017 20:19, "Soumya Kanti Datta" 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> My name is Soumya Kanti Datta, I am a new subscriber to this list. I work
> as a research engineer in EURECOM, France and recently I kicked start a
> company "Future Tech Lab" to work on IoT. I like tech news, Barcelona in La
> Liga and traveling. Hope to have fun conversations with the rest of you on
> tech, culture and more.
>
> Thanks to Udhay for adding me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Soumya
>
> --
> Research Engineer, EURECOM, France | @skdatta2010 |
> http://iot.eurecom.fr
>
>
>

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

Welcome, Sowmya!

On Sep 23, 2017 20:19, "Soumya Kanti Datta" 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> My name is Soumya Kanti Datta, I am a new subscriber to this list. I work
> as a research engineer in EURECOM, France and recently I kicked start a
> company "Future Tech Lab" to work on IoT. I like tech news, Barcelona in La
> Liga and traveling. Hope to have fun conversations with the rest of you on
> tech, culture and more.
>
> Thanks to Udhay for adding me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Soumya
>
> --
> Research Engineer, EURECOM, France | @skdatta2010 |
> http://iot.eurecom.fr
>
>
>

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Shenoy N]

On 8 August 2014 09:19, Bruce Metcalf bruce.metc...@figzu.com wrote:

 Hi, I'm Biju C and I'm father to two boys, 7 and 4 respectively. Is
 there a 12-step programme to restore my sanity after such trauma?


 Yes; it's called grandparenthood. There are many opportunities for fun,
 from feeding the grandchildren sugar just before bedtime to giving them
 drums.

 It was one of my father's great regrets that I never had children so that
 he could exact his well-deserved revenge for my childhood.

 Cheers,
 Bruce


Haha! I'm reminded here of my maternal grandfather, a grumpy man (though he
had a heart of gold) who steadfastly refused to have anything to do with
his grandchildren, especially my cousin and I who would keep getting into
fights. His standard response was not stop fighting but go and fight
THERE (pointing to a location sufficiently far away from him) which, come
to think of it, is how many management problems are solved in industry.



-- 
Narendra Shenoy
http://narendrashenoy.blogspot.com

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Udhay Shankar N]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Shenoy N sheno...@gmail.com wrote:

 His standard response was not stop fighting but go and fight
 THERE (pointing to a location sufficiently far away from him) which, come
 to think of it, is how many management problems are solved in industry.

This is what economists would call an externality.

Udhay
-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Venkat Mangudi - Silk]

Also known as risk transferred
On 11 Aug 2014 09:32, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Shenoy N sheno...@gmail.com wrote:

  His standard response was not stop fighting but go and fight
  THERE (pointing to a location sufficiently far away from him) which, come
  to think of it, is how many management problems are solved in industry.

 This is what economists would call an externality.

 Udhay
 --
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Thejaswi Udupa]

On Aug 11, 2014 7:03 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Shenoy N sheno...@gmail.com wrote:

  His standard response was not stop fighting but go and fight
  THERE (pointing to a location sufficiently far away from him) which,
come
  to think of it, is how many management problems are solved in industry.

 This is what economists would call an externality.


This is what the late, lamented Iain M Banks called an outside context
problem.

 Udhay
 --
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Udhay Shankar N]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Thejaswi Udupa
thejaswi.ud...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is what economists would call an externality.


 This is what the late, lamented Iain M Banks called an outside context
 problem.

Also what the late lamented Douglas Adams called an SEP field.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEP_field

Udhay
-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

Indeed, with two grandchildren, 5 and 1.5 years (girl and boy,
respectively), I can say that grandparenthood is one of the great joys of
my life. But having them live halfway across the world means having to go
and visit them, and having an experience like this:

http://deponti.livejournal.com/1088820.html

And yet it is worth it. But I dare not give them sugar or drumsI have
been the primary caregiver while the parents go to work, when each child
was born!

Deepa.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Bruce Metcalf bruce.metc...@figzu.com
 wrote:
  Hi, I'm Biju C and I'm father to two boys, 7 and 4 respectively. Is
  there a 12-step programme to restore my sanity after such trauma?
 
  Yes; it's called grandparenthood. There are many opportunities for fun,
  from feeding the grandchildren sugar just before bedtime to giving them
  drums.

 And here I was thinking that they were just clueless ... damn ...
 they're doing it on purpose!

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Mohit]

 On 08-Aug-2014, at 15:49, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 But I dare not give them sugar or drumsI have
 been the primary caregiver while the parents go to work, when each child
 was born!

Spoilsport!

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Rajesh Mehar]

Hey Biju,

Thanks. I thought about all the stuff that I've done in my life. And more
than playing with a rock band, more than being in an FM radio station for 5
years, more than being a 'learning consultant', I feel like my role as a
parent gives me the most satisfaction. I work from home, so I can afford to
take on quite a bit of the parenting responsibilities.

As side effects, I've become a better cook, I've been running regularly for
about 3 years now, and I my commute consists of ambling over to the study
from the living room. So, no complaints. And the sanity reserves are high.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Welcome Rajesh!

 It's nice to see that you identify yourself first as a parent. Too
 many of us think their identity is their jobs, which is sadly limiting
 and so transitory. I think I'll do the same.

 Hi, I'm Biju C and I'm father to two boys, 7 and 4 respectively. Is
 there a 12-step programme to restore my sanity after such trauma?

 :-)

 -- b

 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  My name is Rajesh Mehar, Uday just added me to this list. I'm a parent
 of a
  three year old, and I live on a relatively quiet street in Jayanagar,
  Bangalore. I was born in and grew up in Bangalore and other than for a
  one-year-stint in Mumbai, I've lived here all my life. Happy to join the
  fun.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Alok G. Singh]

Hey Rajesh. Small world. Do share your gourmand adventures. There are a
fair number here.

-- 
Alok

Mix's Law:
There is nothing more permanent than a temporary building.
There is nothing more permanent than a temporary tax.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[gabin kattukaran]

Hi Rajesh,
Welcome on board.

On 7 August 2014 11:57, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks. I thought about all the stuff that I've done in my life.

I'm with you and Biju on this. I like to think that everything else
that I do is so that I can have a better life with my wife and three
boys. And this, more than anything else constrains almost all the
decisions I take.

 As side effects, I've become a better cook, I've been running regularly for
 about 3 years now, and I my commute consists of ambling over to the study
 from the living room. So, no complaints. And the sanity reserves are high.

I have had similar experiences with cooking. Though I have spend
considerably more time on my commute.

Cheers,

-gabin



-- 

They pay me to think... As long as I keep my mouth shut.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

Hmm...hi again, Rajesh. I want to ask a TDQ...Thread Drift Questionhow
many people had a blog on LiveJournal? I know of Udhay, Anjana, Derek,
Vinit, Charles, Debbie, Nishant,  Kiran-Jace, Suraj, Kalyan,  Rajesh (whom
I met because of LJ, in fact; I met him as a talented musician, as he
didn't have kids or the parent identity then.) I was quite a late adopter,
but I enjoyed the then-vibrant LJ interactions very much. It's now
moribund, but I still post there regularly as a matter of
writing-something-regularly-discipline.

 Cheers, Deepa.




On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:47 PM, gabin kattukaran gkattuka...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Rajesh,
 Welcome on board.

 On 7 August 2014 11:57, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks. I thought about all the stuff that I've done in my life.

 I'm with you and Biju on this. I like to think that everything else
 that I do is so that I can have a better life with my wife and three
 boys. And this, more than anything else constrains almost all the
 decisions I take.

  As side effects, I've become a better cook, I've been running regularly
 for
  about 3 years now, and I my commute consists of ambling over to the study
  from the living room. So, no complaints. And the sanity reserves are
 high.

 I have had similar experiences with cooking. Though I have spend
 considerably more time on my commute.

 Cheers,

 -gabin



 --

 They pay me to think... As long as I keep my mouth shut.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Thejaswi Udupa]

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 I met him as a talented musician, as he
 didn't have kids or the parent identity then.)


I dare say most people did. I probably display my vintage by saying I've
seen a band called 'Roadcrew' live. :D

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Bruce Metcalf]

Hi, I'm Biju C and I'm father to two boys, 7 and 4 respectively. Is
there a 12-step programme to restore my sanity after such trauma?


Yes; it's called grandparenthood. There are many opportunities for  
fun, from feeding the grandchildren sugar just before bedtime to  
giving them drums.


It was one of my father's great regrets that I never had children so  
that he could exact his well-deserved revenge for my childhood.


Cheers,
Bruce

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Mohit]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Bruce Metcalf bruce.metc...@figzu.com
wrote:

 Yes; it's called grandparenthood. There are many opportunities for fun,
 from feeding the grandchildren sugar just before bedtime to giving them
 drums.


​It's something to look forward to, for sure.​

Now I just need to think how to convince the kids that they should think of
getting kids of their own, before all the live your dreams; don't settle
down too early crap I've been feeding them ;)

Regards,
Mohit
*(M) *+91 9989 420 582

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Biju Chacko]

Welcome Rajesh!

It's nice to see that you identify yourself first as a parent. Too
many of us think their identity is their jobs, which is sadly limiting
and so transitory. I think I'll do the same.

Hi, I'm Biju C and I'm father to two boys, 7 and 4 respectively. Is
there a 12-step programme to restore my sanity after such trauma?

:-)

-- b

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 My name is Rajesh Mehar, Uday just added me to this list. I'm a parent of a
 three year old, and I live on a relatively quiet street in Jayanagar,
 Bangalore. I was born in and grew up in Bangalore and other than for a
 one-year-stint in Mumbai, I've lived here all my life. Happy to join the
 fun.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Pranesh Prakash]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lots of love, Deepa (Deponti)

Does Deponti come from Deepa Aunty or is that just my fanciful imagination?

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

Yes, it does...but amongst those (there is at least one person on this list
who started with calling me that) who called me that...the name has since
morphed to Andy.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Pranesh Prakash the.solips...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
  Lots of love, Deepa (Deponti)

 Does Deponti come from Deepa Aunty or is that just my fanciful
 imagination?

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Venkat Mangudi - Silk]

Sounds like a mallu saying the second half of Deepa Aunty

:-)
On Mar 27, 2014 1:12 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it does...but amongst those (there is at least one person on this list
 who started with calling me that) who called me that...the name has since
 morphed to Andy.


 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Pranesh Prakash the.solips...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Lots of love, Deepa (Deponti)
 
  Does Deponti come from Deepa Aunty or is that just my fanciful
  imagination?
 
 

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Venkat Mangudi - Silk 
s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 Sounds like a mallu saying the second half of Deepa Aunty


In the case of the lurker on this list, who's addressed me by both
appellations...it's true...yes, Madhu Kurup?

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

Welcome, Pooja is always a good season in West Bengal, and that ought to be
true here, too!

I know your dad as Nallu, but my delight at the opportunity to get to
know a child as an adult in her own right doesn't change. Can you tell
jokkus like your dad does?

Lots of love, Deepa (Deponti)


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Pooja Sastry pooja.sas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello! My name is Pooja. I studied architecture in Bangalore and Urban
 Planning in Ahmedabad, and learnt a few months ago that I could begin to
 call myself an architect-urban planner and my former professors by their
 first names.

 Until very recently, I was working full-time at an architecture firm in
 Bangalore, but I am currently between jobs. In the meantime, I freelance as
 an architect, or more frequently, as an interior designer. When projects
 come along, I work as a researcher for a start-up planning consultancy with
 some fellow alumni from planning school. I am also writing a
 paper-in-progress called Poverty and Transport Accessibility in Bangalore:
 the need for a gendered perspective which brings many of my interests
 together.

 I coach schoolchildren in Mathematics on the weekends, and really enjoy it.
 One child was very upset when I told her I would probably not be able to
 teach any more after this year. I would have rejoiced in her place, so
 although it puzzles me, I hope it's because the children enjoy it, too.

 Those on silk-list will know my father as Shiv, so Udhay has known me since
 I was little and I am lucky enough to have met many of you. I have been
 lurking on the list for two years, so I thought maybe I should finally
 de-lurk and say hello.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

Welcome to the list :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

 On 12 Mar 2014, at 08:49, Pooja Sastry pooja.sas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello! My name is Pooja. I studied architecture in Bangalore and Urban
 Planning in Ahmedabad, and learnt a few months ago that I could begin to
 call myself an architect-urban planner and my former professors by their
 first names.
 
 Until very recently, I was working full-time at an architecture firm in
 Bangalore, but I am currently between jobs. In the meantime, I freelance as
 an architect, or more frequently, as an interior designer. When projects
 come along, I work as a researcher for a start-up planning consultancy with
 some fellow alumni from planning school. I am also writing a
 paper-in-progress called Poverty and Transport Accessibility in Bangalore:
 the need for a gendered perspective which brings many of my interests
 together.
 
 I coach schoolchildren in Mathematics on the weekends, and really enjoy it.
 One child was very upset when I told her I would probably not be able to
 teach any more after this year. I would have rejoiced in her place, so
 although it puzzles me, I hope it's because the children enjoy it, too.
 
 Those on silk-list will know my father as Shiv, so Udhay has known me since
 I was little and I am lucky enough to have met many of you. I have been
 lurking on the list for two years, so I thought maybe I should finally
 de-lurk and say hello.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Udhay Shankar N]

On 12-Mar-14 2:19 PM, Pooja Sastry wrote:

 Those on silk-list will know my father as Shiv, so Udhay has known me since
 I was little and I am lucky enough to have met many of you. I have been
 lurking on the list for two years, so I thought maybe I should finally
 de-lurk and say hello.

Hi Pooja, glad you finally came out of the closet, so to speak. :)

There's at least one more parent-child pair on silk - I'll let them
speak for themselves.

Udhay
-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Biju Chacko]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 On 12-Mar-14 2:19 PM, Pooja Sastry wrote:

 Those on silk-list will know my father as Shiv, so Udhay has known me since
 I was little and I am lucky enough to have met many of you. I have been
 lurking on the list for two years, so I thought maybe I should finally
 de-lurk and say hello.

Welcome Pooja. I too studied architecture -- but only for a while. I
learned the error of my ways and moved on to serfdom in the IT
industry. We have, therefore, nothing in common. :-) Welcome,
nevertheless.

When I studied architecture I was in the camp that considered
architecture an engineering problem that included aesthetics as one of
the requirements to be fulfilled. I annoyed (and was annoyed by) the
crowd for whom it was Art (with a capital A).

Where do you place yourself?

 There's at least one more parent-child pair on silk - I'll let them
 speak for themselves.

Cousin, you're even more annoying than usual when you allude to this
mysterious membership list that only you can see. Almost as annoying
as when you shamelessly name drop. [1] ;-)

-- b

[1] The primary annoyance is that when *I* want to name drop, I'm
reduced to saying, I don't actually know so-and-so but I know Udhay,
who does.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

 Cousin, you're even more annoying than usual when you allude to this
 mysterious membership list that only you can see. Almost as annoying
 as when you shamelessly name drop. [1] ;-)

 -- b

 [1] The primary annoyance is that when *I* want to name drop, I'm
 reduced to saying, I don't actually know so-and-so but I know Udhay,
 who does.


Yes, who are these mysterious parent-child combinations that you keep
talking about, Vod Ka Raja?

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Biju Chacko]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, who are these mysterious parent-child combinations that you keep
 talking about, Vod Ka Raja?

Quite clearly you wouldn't know Deepa.

-- b

Re: [silk] introduction...

[Badri Natarajan]

On 20 Jun 2013, at 07:44, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Happy 4th anniversary, Stef and Indro!
 
 I'd be most interested in your account of your experiences in India over
 4+ years.

Why would the visa be an issue? Automatic PIO card and rights to live and work 
in India for the spouse of an Indian citizen (or even a former Indian citizen)..

(Happy anniversary!)

Re: [silk] introduction...

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Something about frro registration and an apostilled marriage certificate, as I 
remember it. 

--srs

 Original message 
From: Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com 
Date: 06/20/2013  2:37 PM  (GMT+05:30) 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net 
Subject: Re: [silk] introduction... 
 

On 20 Jun 2013, at 07:44, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Happy 4th anniversary, Stef and Indro!
 
 I'd be most interested in your account of your experiences in India over
 4+ years.

Why would the visa be an issue? Automatic PIO card and rights to live and work 
in India for the spouse of an Indian citizen (or even a former Indian citizen)..

(Happy anniversary!)

Re: [silk] introduction...

[Udhay Shankar N]

Happy 4th anniversary, Stef and Indro!

I'd be most interested in your account of your experiences in India over
4+ years.

Udhay

On 17-Sep-08 10:51 AM, Stephanie Whiting wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I got the welcome mail asking me to introduce myself, I'm Stephanie Whiting
 and I am a 24 year old American citizen, who intends to move and settle in
 Kolkata, India in around a year's time as I have met and fallen in love with
 an Indian guy. Right now I am working on finishing my bachelors degree in
 Criminal Justice, with no idea what to do with it.
 
 Right now we are working on figuring out exactly what visa I need to get in
 order to arrive (whether to come in on a simple tourist visa and apply for a
 entry visa or what not) and be able to stay in India after we marry. I worry
 about the culture shock and the learning the language (bengali
 specifically).
 
 Stephanie Whiting
 

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] introduction...

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Sounds like a plan. I think the visa issue did sort itself out after a great 
deal of effort :) 

--srs

 Original message 
From: Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com 
Date: 06/20/2013  7:44 AM  (GMT+05:30) 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net 
Subject: Re: [silk] introduction... 
 
Happy 4th anniversary, Stef and Indro!

I'd be most interested in your account of your experiences in India over
4+ years.

Udhay

On 17-Sep-08 10:51 AM, Stephanie Whiting wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I got the welcome mail asking me to introduce myself, I'm Stephanie Whiting
 and I am a 24 year old American citizen, who intends to move and settle in
 Kolkata, India in around a year's time as I have met and fallen in love with
 an Indian guy. Right now I am working on finishing my bachelors degree in
 Criminal Justice, with no idea what to do with it.
 
 Right now we are working on figuring out exactly what visa I need to get in
 order to arrive (whether to come in on a simple tourist visa and apply for a
 entry visa or what not) and be able to stay in India after we marry. I worry
 about the culture shock and the learning the language (bengali
 specifically).
 
 Stephanie Whiting
 

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Till it starts to get exchanged for hard currency bitcoin is merely a token of 
barter - you barter X bitcoins for say legal services. Or a dime (or is it 10 
bitcoin) bag of weed. Or whatever.

Once it starts getting exchanged for hard currency - the point where this 
exchange takes place WILL get regulated.  That's inevitable.

Any widespread use of bitcoin for illegal activities will also, inevitably, 
attract interest - but more from the ATF, FBI or similar agencies worldwide, 
compared to financial and tax regulators.

--srs (iPad)

On 02-Apr-2013, at 18:17, Alaric Snell-Pym ala...@snell-pym.org.uk wrote:

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 On 04/01/2013 05:30 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm one of the coordinators of the Program on Liberation Technologies
 at Stanford University, where we study and design technologies that
 can be used to promote the public good, including democracy, human
 rights, freedom, and development, among others.
 
 Good! Perhaps you will have something to say about a matter I've been
 turning over in my head lately!
 
 I'm interested in Bitcoin. Why? Because I think there's a lot of
 inefficiency and injustice in the way traditional financial systems
 (banks, currencies, and markets) are built: they're heavily centralised
 and monopolised and entangled with politics and other vested interests.
 
 But I'm far from certain that Bitcoin will be a panacea here. Precisely
 because it is decentralised and purely under the control of
 dispassionate algorithms, it is open to different kinds of abuse. The
 initial distribution is hardly fair (no matter how you define fair),
 although I don't think a better distribution mechanism could have been
 defined; but will it even out with time? Or will we find new
 centralisation, in the form of important market functions (eg, the kinds
 of roles that banks fill) being monopolised by the few who have the
 capital to run them?
 
 There's a centralisation risk in the mining power being monopolised;
 somebody who controls more than half of the computational power in the
 mining network, for instance, could just write their own rules (creating
 bitcoins out of nothing or stealing bitcoins from other people, for a
 start).
 
 There's also a danger of governments stepping in and regulating Bitcoin
 in ways that make it a slave to the incumbent financial system.
 
 But there's also the chance for truly independent economic institutions
 to form, fighting each other for trust and market share by actually
 competing, with reputation being the most important capital, meaning
 that anyone with a good idea can implement it and earn from it; and
 reduced transaction fees and censorship making it easier to do business
 from developing economies (look at how PayPal blacklists entire
 countries); and stuff like that.
 
 So what can nerds like me do to try and make sure the world gets the
 benefits of a decentralised currency, and that good outweighing the
 costs of it being used for tax evasion, trading in unethical things, or
 ending up ensnared by central control in one way or another?
 
 
 Yosem
 
 ABS
 
 - --
 Alaric Snell-Pym
 http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/alaric/
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Re: [silk] Introduction

[Alaric Snell-Pym]

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On 04/02/2013 01:55 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 Till it starts to get exchanged for hard currency bitcoin is merely a
 token of barter - you barter X bitcoins for say legal services. Or a
 dime (or is it 10 bitcoin) bag of weed. Or whatever.

Hard currency is merely a token of barter, just one that's gained
widespread trust. That's a quantitative matter rather than a qualitative
matter!

 Once it starts getting exchanged for hard currency - the point where
 this exchange takes place WILL get regulated.  That's inevitable.

And it is exchanged for hard currency, which has recently (in the US)
been defined as a money-handling business and therefore prone to
anti-money-laundering regulations, which is thankfully a good thing IMHO
- - the US government could have taken the opportunity to make things a
lot harder for the bitcoin community, rather than giving it a green
light under the existing regulatory frameworks. And closing the growing
opportunity to use it to launder money is a good thing for everyone; not
only does it hinder criminals, it also helps to avoid Bitcoin gaining a
bad reputation for money laundering, making it more legitimate in the
eyes of the masses.

There are many markets where Bitcoin can be traded for many conventional
currencies - take a look:

http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/

 Any widespread use of bitcoin for illegal activities will also,
 inevitably, attract interest - but more from the ATF, FBI or similar
 agencies worldwide, compared to financial and tax regulators.

Indeed!

 --srs (iPad)

ABS

- --
Alaric Snell-Pym
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Re: [silk] Introduction

[Eugen Leitl]

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 06:25:01PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 Till it starts to get exchanged for hard currency bitcoin is merely a token 
 of barter - you barter X bitcoins for say legal services. Or a dime (or is it 
 10 bitcoin) bag of weed. Or whatever.

BTC exchanges have been around for a while. I don't know
what a hard (or floppy) currency is, but Bitcoin is not
a currency. It's merely money. Like gold (which is not
money, according to Bernanke). 
 
 Once it starts getting exchanged for hard currency - the point where this 
 exchange takes place WILL get regulated.  That's inevitable.

You can exchange Bitcoin in central exchanges or with
local folks for cash, see https://localbitcoins.com/ .
 
 Any widespread use of bitcoin for illegal activities will also, inevitably, 
 attract interest - but more from the ATF, FBI or similar agencies worldwide, 
 compared to financial and tax regulators.

You can run Bitcoin over anonymizing networks. Not that
you can tell which wallet belongs to which person.
Brain wallets need not even to be instantiated, though
their weakness is getting enough entropy into the pass 
phrase.

P.S. if you liked Bitcoin, check out https://bitmessage.org

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

On 02-Apr-2013, at 18:35, Alaric Snell-Pym ala...@snell-pym.org.uk wrote:

 Hard currency is merely a token of barter, just one that's gained
 widespread trust. That's a quantitative matter rather than a qualitative
 matter!

Except that it has a sovereign guarantee backing it.

Which may not matter as much if the country backing it is, say, Zimbabwe.  But 
you get the picture.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Eugen Leitl]

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 06:49:09PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

 Except that it has a sovereign guarantee backing it.

Busily destroying it, you mean.
 
 Which may not matter as much if the country backing it is, say, Zimbabwe.  
 But you get the picture.

No, I actually don't. All sovereigns default, in the long run.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Udhay Shankar N]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 Which may not matter as much if the country backing it is, say, Zimbabwe.  
 But you get the picture.

 No, I actually don't. All sovereigns default, in the long run.


We're all dead in the long run, but that doesn't mean we can't use the
intervening time to do something useful/fun/menaingful (however you
define those terms)

Udhay

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Eugen Leitl]

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 08:00:49PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

 We're all dead in the long run, but that doesn't mean we can't use the

Sovereign defaults are unfortunately a lot more frequent.
Since collapse of currencies is always associated with 
considerable hardship to participants in the economy, and
avoidably so, why not trying an experiment.

 intervening time to do something useful/fun/menaingful (however you
 define those terms)

I think P2P cybercurrencies are something very useful and
meaningful. They are definitely filling a need, or they
wouldn't be so successful (why, BTC is over 100 USD at 
the moment).

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Jon Lebkowsky]

Great to see you here, Yosem!

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Yosem Companys ycompa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm one of the coordinators of the Program on Liberation Technologies
 at Stanford University, where we study and design technologies that
 can be used to promote the public good, including democracy, human
 rights, freedom, and development, among others.

 We're located at http://liberationtechnology.stanford.edu/.  We're
 also at Twitter at https://twitter.com/Liberationtech and have a
 public mailing list at
 https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech.

 Looking forward to exchanging ideas! :)

 Best,

 Yosem

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Caitlin Marinelli]

Yosem, great to meet you! I'm from the US originally, but working at a
company based out of IIT-Madras, called Uniphore, and our focus is
precisely on one type of 'liberation technology': speech technology. Broadly
speaking, using multilingual speech recognition in 14 Indian languages and
voice biometric technologies, we empower businesses to connect with the BOP
through secure, personalized voice interactions through any basic mobile
phone. Through voice, we eliminate the troubles caused by literacy levels
and handset capability variation. Till date, our focus has been building
voice-based applications for financial inclusion, agri, and health
companies - to help them to penetrate deeper into he pyramid, enhance their
service delivery, and increase their efficiency. Happy to chat more about
it, and would love to learn more about the other liberation technologies
you're mapping out.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Yosem Companys]

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Jon Lebkowsky j...@polycot.com wrote:
 Great to see you here, Yosem!

Nice!  I'm sure there's a lot of cross membership on our various lists.

Yosem

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Yosem Companys]

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Caitlin Marinelli 
caitlin.marine...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yosem, great to meet you!

Same here :)

 I'm from the US originally, but working at a
 company based out of IIT-Madras, called Uniphore, and our focus is
 precisely on one type of 'liberation technology': speech technology.

This is extremely important, particularly to help preserve the world's
indigenous languages at risk of becoming extinct.  But glad to hear that
you are working on its various implications.

 Happy to chat more about
 it, and would love to learn more about the other liberation technologies
 you're mapping out.

Feel free to email me privately to discuss further.

Best,

Yosem

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Charles Haynes]

Hi Yosem,

Nice to see you here! I've just finished a year working in Africa
(Johannesburg and Kampala) building local software development capability
The idea is to build up local development ability rather than continuing to
allow Africa to be treated as a market to be exploited. Love to hear more
about what you're doing. I'm in Australia now, but hoping to head back to
Accra sometime within the next year. I'd be interested in hearing your
thoughts (if any) on how best to do development outside of the
Johannesburg/Lagos/Nairobi concentration.

I also spent a year in Bangalore, which is how I came to know most of the
folks here.

-- Charles


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Yosem Companys ycompa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Caitlin Marinelli 
 caitlin.marine...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yosem, great to meet you!

 Same here :)

  I'm from the US originally, but working at a
  company based out of IIT-Madras, called Uniphore, and our focus is
  precisely on one type of 'liberation technology': speech technology.

 This is extremely important, particularly to help preserve the world's
 indigenous languages at risk of becoming extinct.  But glad to hear that
 you are working on its various implications.

  Happy to chat more about
  it, and would love to learn more about the other liberation technologies
  you're mapping out.

 Feel free to email me privately to discuss further.

 Best,

 Yosem

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Biju Chacko]

On 1 Apr 2013 22:31, Yosem Companys ycompa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Caitlin Marinelli 
  Happy to chat more about
  it, and would love to learn more about the other liberation technologies
  you're mapping out.

 Feel free to email me privately to discuss further.

Nothing's off topic here, so you can also keep it on list.

-- b

PS: Welcome, Yosen.

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Vinayak Hegde]

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Andy Deemer andydee...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
 a publisher for my first pre-teen spy novel.  I'm absolutely loving
 the street art here in Bangalore -- the 3D hand-painted shop signs,
 those litho-printed movie posters, the towering 60' cutouts of action
 stars -- but am sad it's all disappearing so quickly.

Hi Andy,

Welcome to the list. I quite enjoyed your posts on the Litho posters
and others on Bangalore. Thanks to Naresh for getting you on the list.

Regards
Vinayak

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Andy Deemer]

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:56 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 14:38 +0530, Andy Deemer wrote:
  but I've run a Chinese government
  propaganda magazine

 Wow! That IS unusual for someone on Silk. Would you be able to say how
 the propaganda gets to the editor/publisher? I mean is there a local
 party rep who sends an email or a print out?

 shiv

Didn't mean to write so much here, but...

It wasn't hard-line propaganda -- there was a facade of editorial
freedom -- but I was guided in certain directions, and more strongly
guided away from others.

It was supposed to be a magazine about an emerging China, using the
5,000 years of history as a backbone.  We'd talk about the internal
ethnic peace, the technological and environmental advances, and the
great cuisine of China.  Two of these are obviously skewed.  We
*could* talk about the peace and beauty of Tibet, but only that side
of it, and only rarely.  We weren't really allowed to talk about
Xinjiang at all (although we did fight to run an article about their
tasty kebabs.)  We'd publish long articles about certain party members
or their organizations or awards, usually in extremely drab
translations from the Chinese.  One of my first challenges was
persuading the publisher against running an article that claimed
Buddhism was a Chinese invention. (???)

Every article would have to be conceptually approved, then read,
dissected, and approved or rejected by several aging party members.
Even after that, the editorial team would suffer hour-long lectures
about such things as the use of the word Mao in the same paragraph
as the word mistake (even though they were unconnected.)  Or the
highly dangerous use of the word Formosa, which was never actually
used.  (I had to look it up after the lecture.)  We were almost shut
down for using the words Taiwan and India in the same sentence.
Or -- in one wonderfully absurd case -- a fiery lecture about our
near-use of an image of a Mao statue, with scaffholding around the
base.  What does this mean, the publisher screamed. Are you saying
Mao is broken? Or tarnished? Are you saying there was something wrong
with Mao? Or are you trying to imprison him?!!

We would regularly (weekly?) have criticism sessions, directly
mirroring those from the cultural revolution.  Every company employee
would take turns speaking against one poor employee, criticizing their
performance.

It was a unique experience.

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Ashwin Kumar]

On 15 January 2013 15:15, Andy Deemer andydee...@gmail.com wrote:

 We would regularly (weekly?) have criticism sessions, directly
 mirroring those from the cultural revolution.  Every company employee
 would take turns speaking against one poor employee, criticizing their
 performance.


pretty much sounds like stack ranking. :)

Welcome to the list. A very interesting collection of experiences.

~ashwin

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Radhika, Y.]

hi Andy! Interesting background. I had a disturbing exchange once in
Washington with a Chinese fellow employee who was a visiting scholar. In
the beginning we were quite friendly and he once confided that in China
they had been taught to view India as a dangerous country -  I responded
that it was a backhanded compliment.

One day the young man came wearing a crown (I think it was Halloween or
something). It was a bit odd and mistaking familiarity for friendship I had
remarked that he would make an excellent emperor for China. Suddenly in a
stentorian voice he declared sternly pointing a finger at me - China is a
democracy. China is a democracy. At first we thought he was joking and that
seemed to feed him more! I did get a bit annoyed at what I perceived to be
him browbeating us into accepting his claim and said something about
everyone knows the truth. There was no dialogue after this.

My father was recruited by the Indian air force in 1963 either right after
or during the Chinese invasion of India (or as they put it claiming back
their illegally occupied territory). I recently found a priceless National
Geographic issue from 1963 at my in-laws place and they let me take it and
send it to my dad - it contained photos of war preparations at that time.

Radhika

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Pranesh Prakash]

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 15:15 +0530, Andy Deemer wrote:
 made some (fairly
 awful) cult movies,

 What is a cult movie?

Without answering the question, I'd quite heartily recommend The Rough
Guide to Cult Movies.[1]  It made for many hours of interesting
reading (and once in a while, viewing).

 [1]: http://openlibrary.org/works/OL8093361W/The_Rough_Guide_to_Cult_Movies

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Radhika, Y.]

I have never quite understood the term. Sholay was described by some in the
US as a cult film which confused me. I thought a cult film was one that was
a commercial failure but was popular with a small group.

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Landon Hurley]

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I have never quite understood the term. Sholay was described by some in the
US as a cult film which confused me. I thought a cult film was one that was
a commercial failure but was popular with a small group.

I always thought of it as an underdog movie, solely because of Fight Club. The 
movie profited something like 40 million, rather than being a commercial 
failure.  I think the definitive objective standard may be underperformes in 
the box office but does extremely well in home viewing sales. That last bit 
would contradict being popular with a small subsection of the population too, 
even though that seems like a logical conclusion.


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Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

On 15-Jan-2013, at 23:52, Landon Hurley ljrhur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I always thought of it as an underdog movie, solely because of Fight Club. 
 The movie profited something like 40 million, rather than being a commercial 
 failure.  I think the definitive objective standard may be underperformes in 
 the box office but does extremely well in home viewing sales. That last bit 
 would contradict being popular with a small subsection of the population too, 
 even though that seems like a logical conclusion.
 

Or movies that should be flops because of storyline, production quality etc but 
that turn out to be hits?  Kanti Shah's Gunda is the canonical example of the 
so bad that it is just f*ing awesome variety of movie when you look at Indian 
cinema.  Similarly, Zero Wing, the game known for gems like someone set us up 
the bomb, All your base are belong to us etc.

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[gabin kattukaran]

On 15 January 2013 22:12, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
 made some (fairly
 awful) cult movies,

 What is a cult movie?

This should help

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0214311/

(Hi, Andy! Welcome to the list)

-gabin
--

They pay me to think... As long as I keep my mouth shut.

Re: [silk] Introduction - Andy Deemer

[Andy Deemer]

 On 15 January 2013 22:12, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
  made some (fairly awful) cult movies,
 
  What is a cult movie?

Really, cult movie is a broad, vague, terribly over-inclusive term.
But basically, it's a film that people go fanatical over (literally,
the cult.)

The way I'm using it, I mean lousy z-grade movies that have an
obsessive fan following.  (Films in the vein of Surf Nazis Must Die,
Ferocious Female Freedom Fighters, and, yes, Poultrygeist: Night of
the Chicken Dead.  The kind of films that usually bomb everywhere,
but inspire regrettable tattoos among crazed fans.)  But the term can
be also used for big budget films like Fight Club or Big Lebowski, old
1930s horror films, Japanese zombie musicals, etc.  I think Sholay
would definitely be considered a cult movie in the US, outside the NRI
community.  Rarely-seen, loved-by-few, but my lord how those few love
it.  ;P

Re: [silk] Introduction - Deepak Malani

[Deepak Malani]

Caitlin, I did hope to find some biking enthusiasts on this group.
A mixed terrain tour that I did in Coorg (near Bangalore) has been a nice
ride.
Trip summary: 
weblinkhttp://www.chadaga.com/2011/03/self-supported-4-days-cycling-tour-coorg/

Deepa Mohan, good one :-)

Regards
Deepak

Re: [silk] Introduction - Deepak Malani

[Caitlin Marinelli]

Welcome Deepak. Glad to have another cyclist aboard. I did Chennai to Pondy
a few months back. A long ride, but a flat one, with a delicious dinner
waiting at your destination. Highly recommended! Where have you done some
of your best cycling in India?


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Deepak Malani malani.dee...@gmail.comwrote:


 I discovered silklist while exploring a recent book Return to India by
 Shoba Narayan. Thankyou Udhay.
 I like to read non-fiction books, especially biographies and memoirs; and
 content with constructivist themes.
 Some of the book-reviews I have written can be found on my blog[1].

 With my background in engineering, I love ideating and building things.
 I have built some electronic product prototypes (speedometer for my
 bicycle and consumer electronics akin to a home media server).
 Currently, I am researching some deeper aspects in this field at iit
 bombay.

 Did I mention cycling?
 While in Bangalore, I took up cycling to commute to my workplace and
 recreational long-distance rides.
 Did a four-day self-supported cycling tour in Western Ghats. I continue to
 do 100km rides with biking groups in Mumbai.
 For cross-training, I tried running distances, but rather enjoyed
 organizing a running event[2].

 Social discovery and communicating with people around have recently
 grabbed my time spent on internet.
 I have conceived of a mobile application that finds and lets you interact
 with people around you wherever you go.
 With booming support for startups now-a-days, I hope to take a dive in
 taking ideas to market.

 Sharing my learnings takes me to students and teachers.
 I like to volunteer some time for doing activity-based-learning
 workshops/projects in schools.
 More about my pursuits: www.deepakmalani.in

 Hope to participate in conversations with you all.

 [1] deepak-malani.blogspot.in/search/label/book
 [2] sntrun.org

 Regards,
 Deepak




-- 
Caitlin Marinelli

blog: http://caitlinmarinelli.wordpress.com/
cell (India): +91 7305598165

Re: [silk] Introduction - Deepak Malani

[Deepa Mohan]

Welcome, Deepak,  you should change your name to Multi-lani!

Deepa.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Deepak Malani malani.dee...@gmail.com wrote:

 I discovered silklist

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Udhay Shankar N]

On 22-Jul-12 9:00 PM, Subodh Sankar wrote:

 My name is Subodh, and after a few years working in the technology
 business, my wife and I decided to open a bookstore. We now spend our
 time at Atta Galatta, our little bookstore in Koramangala that is
 focused carrying Indian writing..in English and other languages.

And on the front page of Time Out, I see. Good stuff!

http://www.timeoutbengaluru.net/shopping/features/atta-galatta

Udhay
-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Balaji Dutt]

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Subodh Sankar subodh.san...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My name is Subodh, and after a few years working in the technology
 business, my wife and I decided to open a bookstore. We now spend our time
 at Atta Galatta, our little bookstore in Koramangala that is focused
 carrying Indian writing..in English and other languages.


/delurk.

Hi there Subodh! It's a small world and all that. Nice to see Atta Galatta
is getting really popular. Looking forward to visiting whenever I manage to
travel back to India this year.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Deepak Jois deepak.j...@gmail.com wrote:


 What an interesting co-incidence. I was at the documentary film
 screening at Atta Galatta just yesterday and had a great time. We
 spoke for a few moments before the screening started.


Didn't realize the Where in the world is Deepak Jois game was now in the
India level :). Any plans to transit through Singapore?

--
Balaji

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Vinit Bhansali]

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Subodh Sankar subodh.san...@gmail.comwrote:

 After a couple (or more) years of lurking I've been prodded by Udhay to
 introduce myself to the group.

 My name is Subodh, and after a few years working in the technology
 business, my wife and I decided to open a bookstore. We now spend our time
 at Atta Galatta, our little bookstore in Koramangala that is focused
 carrying Indian writing..in English and other languages.

 I've had an opportunity to meet a few silklisters..and hope to start
 meeting more soon

 Cheers
 Subodh


Welcome to un-lurked status on Silk, Subodh!!

Is the cafe open now?

- Vinit

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepak Jois]

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Subodh Sankar subodh.san...@gmail.com wrote:

 My name is Subodh, and after a few years working in the technology business,
 my wife and I decided to open a bookstore. We now spend our time at Atta
 Galatta, our little bookstore in Koramangala that is focused carrying Indian
 writing..in English and other languages.

 I've had an opportunity to meet a few silklisters..and hope to start meeting
 more soon


What an interesting co-incidence. I was at the documentary film
screening at Atta Galatta just yesterday and had a great time. We
spoke for a few moments before the screening started.

Nice to know you were on Silk all along :)

Deepak

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan]

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Deepak Jois deepak.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 What an interesting co-incidence. I was at the documentary film
 screening at Atta Galatta just yesterday and had a great time. We
 spoke for a few moments before the screening started.


Is this the film by Vinoo Krishnan?
He's an old friend and former colleague.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepak Jois]

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is this the film by Vinoo Krishnan?
 He's an old friend and former colleague.


Yes, thats the one: Where The Gods Give Up Caste.

Here is a clip for those interested: http://vimeo.com/14203358

Deepak

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Subodh Sankar]

On 22-07-2012 21:58, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:



On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Deepak Jois deepak.j...@gmail.com 
mailto:deepak.j...@gmail.com wrote:


What an interesting co-incidence. I was at the documentary film
screening at Atta Galatta just yesterday and had a great time. We
spoke for a few moments before the screening started.


Is this the film by Vinoo Krishnan?
He's an old friend and former colleague.


Interesting coincidence indeed...glad to have met you Deepak :)

Yes..it was the film by Vinoo Krishnanbrilliant film wonder how many 
have seen it

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Mahesh Murthy]

I can do 13th not 14th
On Apr 8, 2012 9:20 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 welcome. btw in case like lahar, people prefer a weekday we might try
 friday the 13th as well

 none of y'all turn up wearing goalie masks, please ..

 --srs (iPad)

 On 08-Apr-2012, at 8:51, Deepa Agashe daga...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello all,
 
  I am Deepa Agashe, evolutionary biologist/ecologist, and I just moved to
 Bangalore. I've been lurking on the list for a BIT (well, I looked up the
 first email from Udhay and it turns out that I've been here since April
 2011).
 
  So, a full year after there was talk of moving to Bangalore, I'm finally
 here and somewhat settled. I've loved the list conversations I've managed
 to follow so far, and I look forward to more!
 
  Oh, and I will raise my hand to the April 14 silkmeet.
 
  Deepa
 
 
 

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

13 it is

-- 
srs (blackberry)

-Original Message-
From: Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:29:12 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction

I can do 13th not 14th
On Apr 8, 2012 9:20 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 welcome. btw in case like lahar, people prefer a weekday we might try
 friday the 13th as well

 none of y'all turn up wearing goalie masks, please ..

 --srs (iPad)

 On 08-Apr-2012, at 8:51, Deepa Agashe daga...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello all,
 
  I am Deepa Agashe, evolutionary biologist/ecologist, and I just moved to
 Bangalore. I've been lurking on the list for a BIT (well, I looked up the
 first email from Udhay and it turns out that I've been here since April
 2011).
 
  So, a full year after there was talk of moving to Bangalore, I'm finally
 here and somewhat settled. I've loved the list conversations I've managed
 to follow so far, and I look forward to more!
 
  Oh, and I will raise my hand to the April 14 silkmeet.
 
  Deepa
 
 
 

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Kiran K Karthikeyan]

On 8 April 2012 08:51, Deepa Agashe daga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am Deepa Agashe, evolutionary biologist/ecologist, and I just moved to
 Bangalore.


Welcome Deepa. This must be right up your alley. Thoughts?

http://animalreview.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/pandas/

Animal Review: Pandas

Last week’s passing of Ling Ling, Japan’s most famous panda, at the age of
22 presents an occasion for a long-overdue review of the species Ailuropoda
melanoleuca (literally, ‘black and white black cat foot bear who suffers
depression’).

After food with lead in it and human organs harvested from executed
political prisoners, pandas are China’s third-largest export, best known
for sitting dumbly in zoos around the world while visitors fawn over them
and their adorable Chinese names. These names are always one syllable
repeated twice (see ‘Ling Ling’, above). While fewer than 1,600 pandas are
alive in the wild, the vast majority (27) live in foreign zoos, where most
of their time is dedicated to not mating. There are also some pandas in
Chinese zoos, which makes as much sense as opening a Taco Bell in the
middle of Mexico City: You’ll get a few tourists, but the locals know where
the authentic, non-mass-produced food (pandas) is (are).

Much ado is made about the plight of the panda. Pandas are endangered due
to habitat destruction, the Chinese tradition of poaching, and their
hilariously low birth rate. While their exact fertility rates are unknown,
the best estimates are that pandas reproduce once every thousand years.
This has prompted aggressive captivity breeding programs. These never work.
The reality is that getting pandas to mate is like launching a satellite
into orbit. Pandas will do anything to avoid mating, like Quakers avoiding
a military draft. Zookeepers have even resorted to showing them pornography
in the hopes of getting them to mate, which is more a measure of
desperation than scientific training.

However, every so often captive pandas will mate (always by accident), and
the local news then runs endless loops of a gross panda cub in an
incubator, already planning a life of not mating.

Pandas’ problems come from their basic refusal to act like real bears.
First of all, real bears like to mate. Brown bears, black bears, and polar
bears are all famous for their robust drive to procreate. Not so pandas.
It’s just very low on their list of priorities. In addition, real bears eat
what they’re supposed to. Again, not so with pandas. Even though they have
the digestive tract of a carnivore and cannot digest cellulose effectively,
they insist on keeping to a diet that is 90 percent bamboo. This means that
they have to feed constantly, subtracting from time that could otherwise be
spent not mating. In fact, it is entirely likely that pandas don’t ever
mate because they don’t have enough energy after long days of eating their
really inefficient food source.

Also, they’re legally blind.

So while everyone worries about the panda’s future, any objective observer
is led to the conclusion that perhaps the panda’s time has passed. Nature
is clearly trying to give them the hint that they need to go the way of the
Dodo, and maybe we should spend our time on a species that at least wants
to survive.

In the meantime, pandas occupy valuable zoo space while bringing little to
the table. We’re not even allowed to name them. If we could give the pandas
that China lends us names like Babcock or Slider, they might be
ever-so-slightly more interesting. Instead we’re left wondering how to
pronounce ‘Gao Gao.’

In conclusion, pandas are literally a dying breed, and whatever their
charms or ability to symbolize goodwill between us and a brutal Communist
regime, the panda species leaves much to be desired.

GRADE: F

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Udhay Shankar N]

On 08-Apr-12 8:51 AM, Deepa Agashe wrote:

 I am Deepa Agashe, evolutionary biologist/ecologist, and I just moved to
 Bangalore. I've been lurking on the list for a BIT (well, I looked up
 the first email from Udhay and it turns out that I've been here since
 April 2011).

Hi Deepa,

Welcome, and good to see you unlurked.

Do say more about your work here? I guess you work with Vijay at NCBS?

 Oh, and I will raise my hand to the April 14 silkmeet.

Excellent. The both of you?

Udhay

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

welcome. btw in case like lahar, people prefer a weekday we might try friday 
the 13th as well

none of y'all turn up wearing goalie masks, please ..

--srs (iPad)

On 08-Apr-2012, at 8:51, Deepa Agashe daga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I am Deepa Agashe, evolutionary biologist/ecologist, and I just moved to 
 Bangalore. I've been lurking on the list for a BIT (well, I looked up the 
 first email from Udhay and it turns out that I've been here since April 
 2011). 
 
 So, a full year after there was talk of moving to Bangalore, I'm finally here 
 and somewhat settled. I've loved the list conversations I've managed to 
 follow so far, and I look forward to more!
 
 Oh, and I will raise my hand to the April 14 silkmeet.
 
 Deepa
 
 
 

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Agashe]

 Hi Deepa,

 Welcome, and good to see you unlurked.

 Do say more about your work here? I guess you work with Vijay at NCBS?


Yes, I am setting up my lab at NCBS.

For my research I use populations of bacteria or beetles that evolve in the
lab under various conditions. I sometimes manipulate their genes to try and
retrace evolutionary steps or test predictions about future evolution. I'm
interested in how species adapt to different habitats, and how ecological
factors influence evolution. Also, as we accumulate complete genome
sequences of various species, a number of really cool patterns have
emerged. For instance, there is large variation in bacterial DNA
composition- which of the four nucleotides A, T, G and C are used more
often- and we're not quite sure why. I am interested in how such genomic
patterns evolve, so I will soon be setting up experiments to alter some of
these genomic patterns in some pet lab bacteria and see what happens.


 Oh, and I will raise my hand to the April 14 silkmeet.

 Excellent. The both of you?


Nope, just me (my other half will be out of town).


Deepa

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Venkat Mangudi]

Welcome, Deepak. It's mad here, but you'll fit right in. :)
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Folks,

A quick mail to say hello and the Myself Deepak Shenoy bit. I'm an
ex-techie who has migrated into thinking about stocks and futures and
options and RBI auction devolvement. I have two young kids, 5 year old
Varun and 5 month old Zubin, and we live in Gurgaon. Moving back to
Bangalore in a couple months.

I write at http://capitalmind.in about money and markets, and I tweet
at @deepakshenoy.

Have heard a lot of good things about Silk and I hope I can contribute!

Cheers,
Deepak

Re: [silk] Introduction

[J. Alfred Prufrock]

Greetings.

I think I already know you from Twitter, Satin and the Quizzers page.
Hope to confirm on Monday.

J.A.P.

On 17 February 2012 07:52, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 Welcome, Deepak. It's mad here, but you'll fit right in. :)
 --
 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


 Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 A quick mail to say hello and the Myself Deepak Shenoy bit. I'm an
 ex-techie who has migrated into thinking about stocks and futures and
 options and RBI auction devolvement. I have two young kids, 5 year old
 Varun and 5 month old Zubin, and we live in Gurgaon. Moving back to
 Bangalore in a couple months.

 I write at http://capitalmind.in about money and markets, and I tweet
 at @deepakshenoy.

 Have heard a lot of good things about Silk and I hope I can contribute!

 Cheers,
 Deepak




-- 
J. Alfred Prufrock

Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded
I do not know whether a man or a woman
- But who is that on the other side of you?

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Venkat Mangudi]

On Friday 17 February 2012 08:36 AM, J. Alfred Prufrock wrote:
 Greetings.
 
 I think I already know you from Twitter, Satin and the Quizzers page.
 Hope to confirm on Monday.
 

Guess it's the same one... and yes, we're meeting on Monday.

\--Venkat

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

Would like to add my welcome to the others', too, Deepak Shenoy!

Deepa.

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Xxxrum]

And pray,what is Satin?

'Naresh' Narasimhan
Sent from my Phone

On 17-Feb-2012, at 10:56 AM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:36 AM, J. Alfred Prufrock
 another.prufr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings.
 
 I think I already know you from Twitter, Satin and the Quizzers page.
 Hope to confirm on Monday.
 
 J.A.P.
 
 Yes sir, the same one. And we've met in Mumbai once, I even remember
 the cigarelles :)
 
 Cheers,
 Deepak
 

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Venkat Mangudi]

On Friday 17 February 2012 11:55 AM, Xxxrum wrote:
 And pray,what is Satin?

Another list. If I am not mistaken, it's run by Madman.

--Venakt

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Chetan Nagendra]

Welcome, and you may find a couple of subscribers to your newsletter
here!

- Original message -
From: Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:29:34 +0530
Subject: [silk] Introduction

Hi Folks,

A quick mail to say hello and the Myself Deepak Shenoy bit. I'm an
ex-techie who has migrated into thinking about stocks and futures and
options and RBI auction devolvement. I have two young kids, 5 year old
Varun and 5 month old Zubin, and we live in Gurgaon. Moving back to
Bangalore in a couple months.

I write at http://capitalmind.in about money and markets, and I tweet
at @deepakshenoy.

Have heard a lot of good things about Silk and I hope I can contribute!

Cheers,
Deepak

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Mahesh Murthy]

 I write at http://capitalmind.in about money and markets, and I tweet
 at @deepakshenoy.

 Have heard a lot of good things about Silk and I hope I can contribute!

 Cheers,
 Deepak


Welcome to the madhouse, Deepak!

:-)

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Deepa Mohan]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:
 On Friday 17 February 2012 11:55 AM, Xxxrum wrote:
 And pray,what is Satin?

 Another list. If I am not mistaken, it's run by Madman.


You might have enjoyed the lovely song, Satin and Silk from Silk Stockings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Stockings

Deepa.

Re: [silk] introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Eva,
  I am doctor in modern medicine. I should caveat this I don't practice, just 
happen to renew my registration on my recent trip to India. I am based in UK 
(London).
Regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 14 Jan 2011, at 03:18, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Anish, what kind of doc are you?
 Ayurveda?

Re: [silk] introduction

[Eva Jansen]

Yes I know that modern medicine is the same as allopathy :-) what are 
you doing in the UK then?

in which office in Kerala did you have to go for your registration?
Was it in Trivandrum? Is it just a signature or what is involved? Thank you
eva

Am 14.01.2011 09:34, schrieb Anish Mohammed:

Hi Eva,
   I am doctor in modern medicine. I should caveat this I don't practice, 
just happen to renew my registration on my recent trip to India. I am based in UK 
(London).
Regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 14 Jan 2011, at 03:18, Eva Jansenjansen@web.de  wrote:


Anish, what kind of doc are you?
Ayurveda?

Re: [silk] introduction

[Anish]

what are 
you doing in the UK then?
I have been working as a security architect/researcher (security and 
cryptography) for a past decade or so :)
in which office in Kerala did you have to go for your registration?
Was it in Trivandrum?
Yep, tvm
 Is it just a signature or what is involved? Three photos, form, small amount 
 of money, ur certificates and some amount of time :)
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: [silk] introduction

[Eva Jansen]

but where in trivrandrum?

do only allopathic docters register there or all practisioners?

Am 14.01.2011 11:09, schrieb Anish:

what are
you doing in the UK then?

I have been working as a security architect/researcher (security and 
cryptography) for a past decade or so :)

in which office in Kerala did you have to gofor your registration?
Was it in Trivandrum?

Yep, tvm
  Is it just a signature or what is involved? Three photos, form, small amount 
of money, ur certificates and some amount of time :)
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: [silk] introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

It's near the gov eye hospital on the same side of road, not sure of the answer 
for second question 

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 14 Jan 2011, at 10:14, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 but where in trivrandrum?
 

Re: [silk] introduction

[Srini RamaKrishnan]

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Yes I know that modern medicine is the same as allopathy :-)

Isn't allopathy a pejorative term?

Hmm.. Wikipedia seems to agree with me, not that that's saying much,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopathic_medicine

Allopathic medicine is a term coined by Samuel Hahnemann (1755–1843)
in 1810 to refer to the practice of conventional medicine (and
especially the practices now referred to as heroic medicine). While
this term was rejected by mainstream physicians, it was adopted by
physicians with unconventional training as a pejorative term to refer
to physicians who had undergone a more traditional course of
education.[1]

[...]

Re: [silk] introduction

[anish.moham...@gmail.com]

Cheeni :)

Apologies for short response and spelling, sent from mobile phone

- Reply message -
From: Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2011 17:59
Subject: [silk] introduction
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Yes I know that modern medicine is the same as allopathy :-)

Isn't allopathy a pejorative term?

Hmm.. Wikipedia seems to agree with me, not that that's saying much,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopathic_medicine

Allopathic medicine is a term coined by Samuel Hahnemann (1755–1843)
in 1810 to refer to the practice of conventional medicine (and
especially the practices now referred to as heroic medicine). While
this term was rejected by mainstream physicians, it was adopted by
physicians with unconventional training as a pejorative term to refer
to physicians who had undergone a more traditional course of
education.[1]

[...]

Re: [silk] introduction

[ss]

On Wednesday 12 Jan 2011 9:25:57 am Eva Jansen wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I am new at silk list, my name is Eva Jansen, I am a German PhD student
 writing on Naturopathy in South India. At the moment I am looking for
 information about the legal consequences of medical practisioning
 basically in Kerala but also in other South Indian states. I guess
 medical issues are handled statewise but I am not so sure. Does anybody
 know a lawyer or somebody else who can give me legal advice?
 
 I am happy about comments of any kind,
 
 Eva
 

Eva?  Didn't we meet in Bangalore?

I think we discussed Sudhir Kakkar's book The Indians and you had an opinion 
about the man :D

But he does portray an interesting and what I believe to be a realistic 
picture of how Indians relate to health and disease. As a result of that 
litigation is uncommon. 

shiv

Re: [silk] introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Eva,
Welcome to silk. Drop me a note for info on registration in Kerala ( yep I am a 
doc and have just renewed my registration inkerala)
Regards

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 12 Jan 2011, at 03:55, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I am new at silk list, my name is Eva Jansen, I am a German PhD student 
 writing on Naturopathy in South India. At the moment I am looking for 
 information about the legal consequences of medical practisioning basically 
 in Kerala but also in other South Indian states. I guess medical issues are 
 handled statewise but I am not so sure. Does anybody know a lawyer or 
 somebody else who can give me legal advice?
 
 I am happy about comments of any kind,
 
 Eva
 

Re: [silk] introduction

[Varun Sahni]

Hi Eva,

Do connect as well, while at acumen fund we invested in ayurvedic hospitals 
across south india and they might have faced similar challenges, i am not sure, 
but perhaps they did. In addition to which I could introduce you to a couple of 
pro Bono legal services for a conversation.

Regards,

Varun 

On 12-Jan-2011, at 23:50, Anish Mohammed anish.moham...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Eva,
 Welcome to silk. Drop me a note for info on registration in Kerala ( yep I am 
 a doc and have just renewed my registration inkerala)
 Regards
 
 Anish Mohammed
 Twitter: anishmohammed
 http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
 
 On 12 Jan 2011, at 03:55, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I am new at silk list, my name is Eva Jansen, I am a German PhD student 
 writing on Naturopathy in South India. At the moment I am looking for 
 information about the legal consequences of medical practisioning basically 
 in Kerala but also in other South Indian states. I guess medical issues are 
 handled statewise but I am not so sure. Does anybody know a lawyer or 
 somebody else who can give me legal advice?
 
 I am happy about comments of any kind,
 
 Eva
 
 

Re: [silk] introduction

[Venkatesh Hariharan]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Dear all,

 I am new at silk list, my name is Eva Jansen, I am a German PhD student
 writing on Naturopathy in South India. At the moment I am looking for
 information about the legal consequences of medical practisioning basically
 in Kerala but also in other South Indian states. I guess medical issues are
 handled statewise but I am not so sure. Does anybody know a lawyer or
 somebody else who can give me legal advice?

 I am happy about comments of any kind,

 Eva

 Also, to add to my previous mail, one of Prof. NS Gopalakrishnan's students
had done research on the growth and commercialization of ayurveda clinics
and the lack of regulaion was one of the aspects that was looked into.

Venky

Re: [silk] introduction

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

you could start with
http://www.medindia.net/indian_health_act/the-drugs-and-magic-remedies-act-1955.htm

On Wednesday 12 January 2011 09:25 AM, Eva Jansen wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I am new at silk list, my name is Eva Jansen, I am a German PhD student
 writing on Naturopathy in South India. At the moment I am looking for
 information about the legal consequences of medical practisioning
 basically in Kerala but also in other South Indian states. I guess
 medical issues are handled statewise but I am not so sure. Does anybody
 know a lawyer or somebody else who can give me legal advice?
 
 I am happy about comments of any kind,
 
 Eva
 

Re: [silk] introduction

[Venkatesh Hariharan]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Dear all,

 I am new at silk list, my name is Eva Jansen, I am a German PhD student
 writing on Naturopathy in South India. At the moment I am looking for
 information about the legal consequences of medical practisioning basically
 in Kerala but also in other South Indian states. I guess medical issues are
 handled statewise but I am not so sure. Does anybody know a lawyer or
 somebody else who can give me legal advice?

 I am happy about comments of any kind,

 Eva


I am not a lawyer, but one of the comments that concerned me was about the
use of heavy metals in popular ayurvedic medicines like Chawanprash. As far
as I know, naturopathy and ayurveda are loosely regulated as compared to
allopathy. The Indian government has tried to document some of these
practices through the Traditional Knowledge Digital Library.

http://www.tkdl.res.in/tkdl/langdefault/common/Home.asp?GL=Eng
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Knowledge_Digital_Library

All tangential information, but I hope it is useful in some way :-) I have
some roots in Kerala, so if you are looking for some specific information,
let me know and I will check with my friends in Kerala.

Venky

Re: [silk] introduction

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

On Wednesday 12 January 2011 09:38 AM, Venkatesh Hariharan wrote:
 I am not a lawyer, but one of the comments that concerned me was about the
 use of heavy metals in popular ayurvedic medicines like Chawanprash. As far
 as I know, naturopathy and ayurveda are loosely regulated as compared to
 allopathy. The Indian government has tried to document some of these
 practices through the Traditional Knowledge Digital Library.

Hah. Forget heavy metals - thats supposed to be part of some ayurvedic
medicine apparently.

For what you need, look at, for example,

http://ayurbhishak.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/%E2%99%A3-official-tests-confirm-musli-power-extra-of-kunnath-pharmaceuticals-as-adulterated/

That's an ayurvedic viagra - heavily marketed on tv, sponsors sports
teams etc.  So what do they do but adulterate their product with
tadalafil (aka cialis) so it does get you the expected results.

They're not alone - several other commercial ayurvedic medicines have
been at various times shown to have been adulterated with antibiotics,
steroids etc etc allopathic drugs.

Re: [silk] introduction

[anilkumar . nagaraj]

Welcome Eva:
So, as you can see, on Silklist one does not need a lawyer to respond to 
'legal' queries ;-)

But really, that seems like a pool of ready information there, even for a 
lawyer in India who does not practice medicine law.

-Anil Kumar (fone post)
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net
Sender: silklist-bounces+anilkumar.nagaraj=gmail@lists.hserus.net
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:46:50 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] introduction

On Wednesday 12 January 2011 09:38 AM, Venkatesh Hariharan wrote:
 I am not a lawyer, but one of the comments that concerned me was about the
 use of heavy metals in popular ayurvedic medicines like Chawanprash. As far
 as I know, naturopathy and ayurveda are loosely regulated as compared to
 allopathy. The Indian government has tried to document some of these
 practices through the Traditional Knowledge Digital Library.

Hah. Forget heavy metals - thats supposed to be part of some ayurvedic
medicine apparently.

For what you need, look at, for example,

http://ayurbhishak.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/%E2%99%A3-official-tests-confirm-musli-power-extra-of-kunnath-pharmaceuticals-as-adulterated/

That's an ayurvedic viagra - heavily marketed on tv, sponsors sports
teams etc.  So what do they do but adulterate their product with
tadalafil (aka cialis) so it does get you the expected results.

They're not alone - several other commercial ayurvedic medicines have
been at various times shown to have been adulterated with antibiotics,
steroids etc etc allopathic drugs.

Re: [silk] introduction

[Venkat Mangudi]

Hi Ashwin,

Welcome to Silk!

On Saturday 08 May 2010 09:49 AM, Ashwin Kumar wrote:
 After enjoying a silk meetup, I have finally taken the leap of faith
 into intelligent conversations.

One hopes to see the intelligent part soon. We're just a bunch of
crazy people.

 * self-confessed geek 
Where do you confess such things?

 * foodie
Oh, welcome once again. Tons of us are. In fact, quite a lot of
conversations revolve around food and Bhoot Jolokia infused Vodka. ;)

 * photographer (BW film/developing/photo-chemistry/lens optics)
A lot of us are. Know someone who would like to buy an Analog Nikon D65?
It's lying rather unused at home. I bought it and the DSLR prices
crashed. Now I am verboten to buy any optical equipment till I get rid
of the two additional camcorders and three cameras. ;)

Cheers,
Venkat

Re: [silk] introduction

[Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan]

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Ashwin Kumar ashwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey folks


Saar, hello!


 A short bio:
 * self-confessed geek

Isn't confession, by its definition, of the self?

* foodie
 * photographer (BW film/developing/photo-chemistry/lens optics)

 And awesome photos they be. Good to see you too on Silk.

C

(Isrushedforspaceandtimeashegoesbackintomajorpanicbecauseessaydeadlineis2hoursaway)

-- 
http://www.uk.linkedin.com/in/chandrachoodan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages
http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/

+447940289855

Re: [silk] introduction

[Balaji Dutt]

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ashwin Kumar ashwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 After enjoying a silk meetup, I have finally taken the leap of faith into
 intelligent conversations.


And about time too!


 * photographer (BW film/developing/photo-chemistry/lens optics)


And one of the folks I hold responsible for getting me addicted to this very
expensive hobby :)

--
Balaji