Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread M. G. Devour
Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit with the specs of 25,000 volts and 350 milliamps? Or is there a particular stun gun that can be bought and modified, and if so how to modify? Ummm, guys? Before you go running off to build something like

RE: CSDMSO - other side?

2004-05-13 Thread Stuff
Face it. Living is a dangerous occupation...if done well. And that's not taught in The School System. stuff At 04:09 PM 5/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: If people read the MSDS on all the products under their kitchen sink, or in their medicine cabinet, many would think they would be on the verge

Re: CS Fever blisters

2004-05-13 Thread David Bearrow
At 04:01 PM 5/12/04, you wrote: There is no medical documentation that DMSO is viricidal, CS is viricidal. When I feel a fever blister coming in on my lip (usually after eating almonds, I don't know why) I take my colloidal silver generator and put the silver leads one on each side of the

CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread daddybob
Not too many Brown Recluses down here, but the Black Widows will carry you away. We dare not reach under something without looking under it or turning it over from April to October, and that's not to mention the fire ants, copperheads and rattlers. So does anyone know how to build a homemade

Re: CSBest distilled water

2004-05-13 Thread Linda Jones
Walgreens DW says it is bottled in Milesburg, PA, and distributed by Walgreens in Deerfield IL. I've bought it from several different Walgreens in several different tows, and they all say the same thing. Since I live in Nebraska, it seems like that is evidence that they are shipping it out of

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
M. G. Devour wrote: Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit with the specs of 25,000 volts and 350 milliamps? Or is there a particular stun gun that can be bought and modified, and if so how to modify? Ummm, guys? Before you go running off

CSSpider Bite Zapper

2004-05-13 Thread DByron
With a spider bite located on my neck, close to what functioning brain cells I have left, I am distinctly not crazy about the idea of zapping myself with 25,000 volts. Has anyone seen any information about the MINIMUM voltage necessary to destroy venom? DByron -- The Silver List is a

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marmar845
I would just like to point out that anyone whose chiropractor has an electro-stim unit can be treated by that chiropractor for any kind of bite. An electro-stim unit passes electrical current gently through the tissues and does the same job without any jolts or pain. Of course, there's the

RE: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James Holmes
Apparently, some insect venoms are also broken down by heat. In a catalog have seen an egg-shaped battery-powered device that gets very warm on one end. You place the pointy end on the bite. It seems to me that you could obtain a nest egg---those stone eggs used to show hens where to lay---and,

RE: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James Holmes
I think the instructions for that were in one of the links I recently posted. JOH -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper? Daddybob asks: So does anyone know

RE: CS Fever blisters

2004-05-13 Thread James Holmes
Long term use of a couple of ounces a day has eliminated the occurrence of the lesions for myself and several other people that I know. JOH -Original Message- From: David Bearrow [mailto:dav...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 5:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread DByron
Hello Marmar845, I'm assuming you've had direct experience, then, seeing an electro-stim unit stop the necrotic action of a spider bite. I'd sure appreciate hearing more details. Thanks, DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for

CSSpider Bite Documents and References

2004-05-13 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Deborah, With a spider bite located on my neck, close to what functioning brain cells I have left, I am distinctly not crazy about the idea of zapping myself with 25,000 volts. You face some hard decisions. Even though I am a strong minded person, at times, the thought went

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Tom
Wouldn't the flash circuit for a disposable camera be enought voltage to disable venom, I was building a small magpulser with one at one time and accidently shorted it out on my self and it did shock the hell out of me, actually brought back memories of being zapped by the ignition system of a car

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 5/13/04 10:52:09 AM EST, laqueren...@mindspring.com writes: I'm assuming you've had direct experience, then, seeing an electro-stim unit stop the necrotic action of a spider bite. I'd sure appreciate hearing more details. Hi DByron -- yes I've had direct experience with

Re: CS Fever blisters

2004-05-13 Thread Garnet
Pardon me but there is medical documentation that it inhibits virus growth. And it delivers the CS deep into the nerve tissue where it hides so best to use both. Garnet On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 16:01, Nina Whit wrote: There is no medical documentation that DMSO is viricidal, CS is viricidal.

CSspider bite zapping using the Godzilla?

2004-05-13 Thread cmccauley
Would the Godzilla machine work? Mine is 36 volts with the lowest ma at .25 and up to and over 1.0 ma. Could you just take the electrodes and put one on each side of the bite and turn it on for a few minutes? Mine is manual so it doesn't pulse or change polarity, unless I want it to by

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Tom
When my wife was bit by a brown recluse last year we used a CS compress and I did use the godzilla but later in the day. I believe te CS neutralized it though as I thought of the godzilla later in the day but still she had just a bruise where the bite was and the uclerating necrosis had

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread daddybob
M. G. Devour wrote: Ummm, guys? Before you go running off to build something like this would you please check those specs? It seems to me that over 1/3 of an amp at 25 kilovolts is a rather large amount of energy -- likely lethal. It's certainly enough to stop the heart if used

Re: CSSpider Bite Documents and References

2004-05-13 Thread Charles Sutton
Just my two cents, but in this case I would want to forgo the electricity and use the healing (betonite) clay and CS to draw out the poison and heal. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:26 PM Subject:

Re: CS A question For Charles Sutton

2004-05-13 Thread Charles Sutton
. This is from the article in Outdoor life I posted earlier.I don't know if the mfg or number is still good. The only medically tested shocking device that is safe for almost all people, including those with heart pacemakers, is the Stun Gun, made by Nova Technologies (2207 Braker Lane,

CSNon electric remedy for BR

2004-05-13 Thread Charles Sutton
This was sent off list, but it may help someone. .It is simple and works. My friend's husband has had several BR bites. Rails Anyway the remedy I use on the brown recluse spider bite is Adolph's Meat Tenderizer and Vaseline petroleum jelly to make it stick the to bite..put your finger

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
In the case of a stun gun, that may be right. A stun gun produces a very short duration spike, 20 or so times a second. If the spike is a microsecond in length, then the power would be way less than one watt average. Marshall daddybob wrote: M. G. Devour wrote: Ummm, guys? Before you go

Re: CSNon electric remedy for BR

2004-05-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
The meat tenderizer is what I used on all insect stings. What it does is digest proteins, and the venom is a form of protein that is easily digested by the tenderizer. I was wondering if it would work on the brown recluse. Thanks for the confirmation. Marshall Charles Sutton wrote: This was

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Marshall, microsecond in length, then the power would be way less than one watt average. Not questioning your calculations and expertise, but it feels like more than that. grin I have been shocked by 700 VDC which was hefty, and also have been hit by lightening. The

CSspider bite and electrostim unit

2004-05-13 Thread Shirley Reed
Is the electro stim unit the same as the cranial electronic stimulation device sold by Sota Instruments? pj - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2'

RE: CSNon electric remedy for BR

2004-05-13 Thread James Holmes
Re: Adolph's Meat Tenderizer. I think it contains the papaya enzyme. Could be that breaks down the venom components. JOH -Original Message- From: Charles Sutton [mailto:cds...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNon electric

Re: CS[List Owner] Handling OT and commercial stuff...

2004-05-13 Thread Christine Carleton
With Mike's permission, for those who have inquired about Spider bites I will post the recipe from the book I have seen used successfully for tick bites, with other insect bites, and major infections on the OT list. Christine. From: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To:

Re: CSspider bite

2004-05-13 Thread Christine Carleton
Deborah, In my experience we are multidimensional beings. That in part is why Homeopathics work. They acknowledge that a balance can be achieved with a frequency, not the actual poison. Another aspect I would pay attention to is the meridians in the area of the bite. The Stomach, Liver,

Re: CS A question For Charles Sutton

2004-05-13 Thread Hank
Thank you Charles. Yours Hank - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton To: Hank ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: Re: CS A question For Charles Sutton . This is from the article in Outdoor life I posted earlier.I don't know if

Re: CSspider bite and electrostim unit

2004-05-13 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 5/13/04 3:26:43 PM EST, pj20...@yahoo.com writes: Is the electro stim unit the same as the cranial electronic stimulation device sold by Sota Instruments? I have no idea, but I doubt it. This is a unit that is designed to relieve muscle pain and spasm, and instigate

Re: CS[List Owner] Handling OT and commercial stuff...

2004-05-13 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 5/13/04 3:29:05 PM EST, essential-liv...@telus.net writes: With Mike's permission, for those who have inquired about Spider bites I will post the recipe from the book I have seen used successfully for tick bites, with other insect bites, and major infections on the OT list.

Re: CSNon electric remedy for BR

2004-05-13 Thread Norman Cameron
hi Group With regard to bites...in my memory someone on the list mentioned onions ...does anyone remember who it was? Norm - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: CSNon electric remedy for BR

Re: CSBrown Recluse Spider Bite Treatment - Handling OT and commercial stuff...

2004-05-13 Thread Christine Carleton
It's just one click... that's all it takes... OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html and you can pick it up there with no other effort... ... To not distract those who want to stay on topic to CS. CC From: marmar...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com

CSRe: Possibly Useful Info

2004-05-13 Thread Dave Rogan
Dear Brooks: I read your post on possibly useful info on Potassium Chloride,Magnesium Sulphate, and ammonium laurel sulphate. I was wondering what protocols your researchers used (how much of each daily, etc.). I have been reading your posts for quite a while and using many of the protocols

RE: CSTransfer Factor

2004-05-13 Thread Thora Rasmussen
Just like many other beaurocratic stuff, it is complicated, with several language rules, so that organic means one thing, certified organic means another, the country source changes the rules, and with a variety of labelling rules, that consumers need to know if they care. It also changes daily,

Re: CSTransfer Factor

2004-05-13 Thread Christine Carleton
Yes this is true... But did you see what happened to GM wheat and Montsano yesterday? The corporation has decided to step back from GM wheat... at least for the time being... and announced it to shareholders.. Good things are happening, and it helps if we support ... Organic may not mean

Re: CSSpider Bite Documents and References

2004-05-13 Thread David S Osborne
Sure wish someone would try the Violet Ray on a bite. Never had the nerve myself but I have seen someone use the eyecup applicator directly on the eye. I have used one numerous times on my neck. Never have had a recluse bite to try it on. Feel sure it would do the trick. davido On Thu, 13 May

Re: CS[List Owner] Handling OT and commercial stuff...

2004-05-13 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi Marmar, You don't need to participate in the OT list to use it. Just click on the link to the OT list web archives in the footer of these messages and look for the post you want to read. If you *do* happen to want to post a reply, you can, since you're a member of the main list. Be well,

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
The Nova is reliable as they developed a testing device to audit voltage and amperage at the same time.. I would clip leads to the inner probes and terminate the wires with needles. Then I would insert needles on opposite sides of the toxin injection site and then pulse the device. - Original

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Not lethal if Nova or Taser. To keep Consumer Product Safety Commission happy, Taser had the same output as Nova fired across the beating heart of a monkey. Nonfatal. This was also verified by the EE PhD who [1] verifies the safety of all the Navy ships to keep them lightening safe, and [2]

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper

2004-05-13 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Well, 25000v is is about the shock you get off a doorknob. Think amperage. You are boosting the voltage of a 9 volt nicad about 5000 times. That means your amperage is about 1/5000 that of the same battery. - Original Message - From: DByron laqueren...@mindspring.com To:

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Tony Moody
Thats probably 25kV output. Drain on a 9 or 12 v battery would be in the region of 350mA but even that is over hefty IMHO. Tony On 13 May 2004 at 10:15, M. G. Devour wrote: Daddybob asks: So does anyone know how to build a homemade Spider Bite Zapper circuit with the specs of 25,000

Re: CSRe: Possibly Useful Info

2004-05-13 Thread Brooks Bradley
Dear Mr. Rogan, Our Group researches involving the substances to which you refer...are in process and currently ongoing. As no definitive conclusions have been reached to date (excepting the utilization of potassium chloride), all would be poorly served by my personal

Re: CSSpider Bite Documents and References

2004-05-13 Thread Christine Carleton
I used the Violet Ray from the Edward Cayce Institute (based on Tesla's work) on a suicidal 35 year old fellow about 7years ago. The session was about 6 minutes on low voltage. He slept like a baby, and could think the next day. He was quite stressed about loosing a million dollar development

CSClarke, Wormwood, and Malaria

2004-05-13 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
List, Interesting report in yesterday's newspaper: the WHO is approving a kind of Chinese wormwood for worldwide treatment of malaria. The wormwood has proven more effective than any other drug at eliminating the parasites in the blood. It will be given in a cocktail to discourage

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-13 Thread Peter Rebaudo
Hi: A barbecue piezorlectric igniter produces 25,000 volts. Anybody can has any suggestions how to measure the current? PeterR -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your

CSlung congestion

2004-05-13 Thread Revonda Henderson
I wanted some info on how to use CS with a nebulizer to treat lung congestion.