PPM.
David
previously improving health is no longer improving. I am about to give
them a piece of my mind, but want to double check before I do.
Thanks,
David
the patient has advocates to stand up to what the patient
wants, it's his right to take CS if he wants.
Silvia
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Plus now I learn that liver cancer all by itself causes elevated
creatinine. And so does whey protein, which he was taking.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
I also just read cancer die-off can increase creatinine. So damn, you
WANT CS to increase
Though most of the liver is on the right side, one should lie on the
left side to get the most into the liver?
David
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:13 AM, devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
One more thing it would be absorbed by the blood vessels in the area that
would go to the liver...there are drugs
Is it like a pretty snowflake pattern? I get things like that. I wet
a paper towel with distilled water, drop it in the empty jar, then use
a big spoon or spatula to reach inside and move the paper towel around
and rub those deposits off. Then I rinse the jar with DW once.
David
On Wed, Mar
Reviving this rectal CS thread...would rectal CS be a good idea for
liver cancer? Would it reach the liver directly? Would there be a
minimum volume needed to reach the liver?
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current regulation or not. It certainly is expensive enough to have
it...
Dan
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:55 PM, David AuBuchon
aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
I am helping someone in India who I got to buy this unit:
http://alchemist.co
particles.
I didnt watch the video, but can someone tell us whether or not they are
talking about ABL products?
David
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.comwrote:
I'm not set up for watching youtube on this system (computer doesn't
belong to me). but I contracted
The particles that appear in our home brews some here would say are not
metallic silver but are clumps of silver compounds like AgOH. They just
are not the same thing.
David
2012/3/16 André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com
What is LVDC particles? The article talk about silver nano particles
Roughly 5 to 20% of the silver ends up in particles actually.
2012/3/16 André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com
But most brews are simply ionic silver solutions, you make it via
electrolysis i distilled water.
2012/3/16 David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com:
The particles that appear in our
attainable in the body.
But it would be nice to be able to access the graphs and see them closely.
Also note that the footnotes on the graphs refer to Ag2O
nanoparticles...not metallic silver. Is there any of that in LVDC brew?
David
2012/3/16 André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com
100 μg ml−1 NPs
Can one use a magnet to make silver ions conregate on one side of a jar,
and then suck of water from the other side of the jar with a syringe?
Could this leave the remaining solution with a higher ion concentration?
David
Ph waiot, silver is not magnetic is it? Is their any analogous concept one
can think of to make silver ions migrate to one side of a jar?
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
Can one use a magnet to make silver ions conregate on one side of a jar
Thanks for the useless information. No sarcasm intended.
David
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
I vortexed water through 2 microwave electron magnets 'X' number of times
c/wise and anticlockwise before brewing several batches and didn't notice
any
to be reversing the person's
otherwise terminal cancer. But I need to have a better sense of how
long it would take to brew say 15PPM with this unit. My guess is 45
minutes, total, wiping the electrodes every now and then? The guy who
sells it seems to be unreachable at the moment.
Thanks,
David
Oh wait! I meant to say Sarcasm INTENDED. Haha, brain fog.
David
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
That's cool. It was 4 magnets too, not 2, I'd better get it right g.
N.
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:37:07 -0700
Subject: Re: CSmagnetized water study
titanium dioxide nanoparticles, according to a recent study by the
Norwegian Institute of Public Health. However, the use of both types
may affect testicular cells with possible consequences for fertility.
David
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Someone needs to get the full text and see what concentrations of
nanoparticles they are talking about.
David
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Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:56 pm
Subject: CSHow long does a plain single 9V setup take to brew?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
I am helping someone in India who I got to buy this unit:
http://alchemist.co/
(scroll down to the super
.
From that info, I deduce that you should remove your scotum and soak your
cancerous testicles in large-particle Ag sols of unknown concentration.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:28 PM, David AuBuchon
aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
Someone needs to get the full text and see what concentrations
Learn how to make it from people on this forum. It will be clear and less
than 15PPM. Drink it by the jar full, and you will almost definitely not
turn blue. And even if you did, it would happen gradually, and you would
just decide to stop before anything happened.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:14
CS is good, but adding some DMSO will help it penetrate. But unless your
dental issue is caused by infection, I don't know what might help you. But
if it is caused by infection, you might try some things, and see if you can
get another xray and see if looks clear again? I dunno.
.
Then as you no longer get such a reaction at a given dose, increase the
dose again tell you again start getting such a reaction. Eventually youll
get up to 16 fl oz a day this way. Then when you no longer herx or improve
in health, it is time to reevaluate your situation and think of the next
move.
David
.
David
to provide great vitality at the beginning of the day. I have no
idea what type of silver she may have been using.
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:35 AM, David AuBuchon
aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22375039
Can someone find out for us what the type of silver she
%2Fhealth_medicine+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Health+%26+Medicine+News%29
David
http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/new-colloidal-silver-for-lyme-disease/
Is anyone able to find the patent for the product so I can verify what it
is? Vendors are claiming it is not ordinary EIS and I want see.
Thanks,
David
.
Maybe it is true colloidal silver (i.e. particles and not ions),
with hydrogen peroxide then added? Any other guesses?
David
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.google.com/patents/US7135195
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo
HVAC. Everything else appears to be exactly
identical.
David
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:46 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Awesome. How do you know it is the right one?
Holladay and Moeller...where have I heard them before with other
silver products?
They mention hydrogen
David
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was
clear with a slight amber (not yellow) tint.
David
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
From: Robert Toborek rtobo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator
Hi Mike,
... That's my five cents worth of thoughts. Again, thank you, Mike
FYI there is a DIY LET yahoo group all on this topic.
David
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:15 AM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
I got mine at Harbor Freight online. It was much less expensive there
than in their stores. It is an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner. I got the
larger size
A case of spina bifida was cured with liposomal colostrum. If it is some
kind of premature birth defect and more development is needed, that might
help.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
**
I believe I have read that these can sometimes be removed with a
12V garage door opener battery.
David
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
It doesn't say how much and where to buy. dee
On 10 Feb 2012, at 04:25, David Snowdon wrote:
A low-cost medium-voltage circuit to use on warts can be found here:
http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Misc/wart_zap
A low-cost medium-voltage circuit to use on warts can be found here:
http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Misc/wart_zap/wart_zapper.htm
David
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I went through the digging at the roots, the topical applications of
various kinds, the regrowth. Violet ray is what worked
If you could send it to me I would appreciate it. Or why not just share it
with the group?
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jared De la Torriente
jarochoda...@hotmail.com wrote:
joy,i read some literature about using silver hidrosol -- ionic
silver to perform tratment of renal issue,
There were a lot of good options in the previous thread on kidney failure
if you ask me. Ubiquinol I think is the foremost. Better, but more
expensive would be liposomal ubiquinol. Then Kibow Probiotics was another
one. Sorry, I don't know any one-time-cost approaches for kidney failure
If you have been herxing with CS but not improving, killing bugs is not
what you need to be focusing on right now. Lyme is very complicated. To
put it bluntly, you do not have lyme disease like you think you have. You
have a mental concept that you have a lyme bacteria and if you kill that
it as a
starting point for brewing to purposely add ions? (Not that anyone would
want to)
4. What would happen if you added peroxide to these higher PPMs brews as
compared to adding peroxide at the PPMs we are used to?
David
I just had an interesting experience with the new CDS (chlorine dioxide
solution). 100 drops of activated MMS used transdermally with DMSO did
nothing for me in the past. Recently about 5 ml of CDS transdermally gave
me strong intestinal herx. 1ml of CDS is said to be equivalent to 3 drops
of
anyone want to recommend me a cost-effective ultrasonic nebulizer? Need to
step up from the Edge portable and get every last drop of bug killing power
I can.
David
I bought silver oxide powder from salt lake metals. Then I bought citric
acid from somewhere. Then I put silver oxide powder in water, keeping
track of how much elemental silver by mass there is. This was actually a
pain to figure out how to measure it somewhat accurately as I do not have
fancy
I've done 8 oz and none of it comes back out. It seemed to reach some bugs
in the lower intestines that was not getting reached when taken orally.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote:
I do retention enema's when I am fighting a really bad cold or a bug
I did neti pot once with CS. Stings like hell. Would not recommend it. I
think nasal spray CS is not uncomfortable though.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kathryn Neff n...@swtexas.net wrote:
In a recent alert on the internet regarding problems with using the Netti
Pot with regular water
in the electrolyte that comes with it didn't you?
Marshall
On 1/12/2012 2:42 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
I did neti pot once with CS. Stings like hell. Would not recommend it.
I think nasal spray CS is not uncomfortable though.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kathryn Neff n...@swtexas.net wrote
Undiluted. Like 10 PPM. There is some belief in the lyme world right now
that a particular nasal staph infection is part of the overall puzzle for
some people.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Kathryn Neff n...@swtexas.net wrote:
David: What how much CS did you put in a full pot of water
, not as effective but still
effective. If you add a little citric acid to the CS to produce silver
citrate first, that should make it inactive to the chlorine ion when you
add salt.
Marshall
On 1/12/2012 3:33 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
Negative! My neti pot came with salt. Is their an additive
Trem, Tel, and Others,
When you made your higher PPM brews, did you stop just because you felt
like it, or because you actually hit a limit in PPM?
I have a batch at 50PPM right now, and am going to work it up til it wont
go no more. It is however very slow, as I run off 2 AA's.
It seems to me
I have made about 16,500 PPM silver citrate. This appears to be the
saturation point I was able to practically reach in a saturated solution of
citric acid. A study referenced earlier says 20,000PPM was the limit of
silver citrate solubility. So it is in the same ballpark.
10 drops
times a day on empty, with the lumbrokinase. Have your
doctor monitor whatever needs to be done with the warfarin, and
hopefully wean you off of it slowly.
David
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:33 AM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
You might also want to check in with a top rate Oriental
for the fingernails. FYI, I have done 100 drop of activated MMS
transdermally with no adverse effects.
David
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
Marshall wrote:
My sister was successful using the Bob Beck protocol. I think she drunk
around a pint of CS a day. When
FYI, brewing at higher PPMs (around 50PPM), I see both electrodes
consistently tarnish to a dark gray color very quickly. I don't
recall seeing both electrodes turning that color at lower PPMs - only
one of them.
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using silver tubing instead of wires might help for higher PPMs.
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
So, would you say that making highly ionic CS is not really that difficult
after all?
David
(Australia)
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
Just last night I was actually wondering if DMSO + a ClO2 solution might
help argyria topically. Also wonder the same thing about citric acid.
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
Marshall wrote:
I just discovered something that will remove silver stains
of new readers).
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM, David AuBuchon
aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
I am thinking that may be the case. Though it may also be that finding
out how to tweak the parameters correctly could get much higher than
50PPM. It would be interesting for people with different
ideas how to remove the moisture? Adding grains of rice to the silver
oxide bottle?
A tiny swig of the 1,000PPM had an effect on me, so I need to explore
higher concentrations (while staying out of the sun).
David
What is an acceptable ratio by volume of DMSO and EIS when used with nebulizer?
I nebulized the 50PPM EIS I made, and I got some mild feelings of herx
in my brain. So again, I need to explore this route more also.
Orally, I did not notice any clear effect.
David
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:09 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am trying to make a highly concentrated silver citrate solution but
encountered a problem. The first time I did this I did not have this
issue. I took silver oxide powder
Also, what is a good ration of DMSO and CS for eye drops? Want to try
it on someone with a cataract.
David
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:13 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
What is an acceptable ratio by volume of DMSO and EIS when used with
nebulizer?
I nebulized the 50PPM
with silica gel. You can reuse silica gel by heating it in an oven
to dry it.
Marshall
On 1/6/2012 4:09 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
I am trying to make a highly concentrated silver citrate solution but
encountered a problem. The first time I did this I did not have this issue.
I took
It is reduced by Hydrogen gas at 100°C ( 212°F ), forming Silver
Powder and water.
http://www.saltlakemetals.com/Silver_Oxide.htm
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:22 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Any idea what temperature would be needed? I have a boat made out of
aluminum foil
http://www.apexuap.com/index.html
David
month to follow the protocol. whew.. !! Lola
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:20 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.apexuap.com/index.html
David
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Well, they talk about cancer data, but then its nowhere on their site.
Guess it's privy info...no way to tell if it is any better than anecdotal
cures with EIS...
One thing their site made me realize was that their appears to be a product
by ABL called Super Silver Solution that Frank tested in
, 2012 at 2:14 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
Well, they talk about cancer data, but then its nowhere on their site.
Guess it's privy info...no way to tell if it is any better than anecdotal
cures with EIS...
One thing their site made me realize was that their appears
Has anyone here actually tried tetrasil, tetrasil cream, or terrasil cream
(appears to be renaming of tetrasil cream)? Only terrasil appears to be
available. Think it is worth a long shot for systemic infection?
I stopped brewing at about a stable 50 uS. Slight yellow tinge. It is
possible it could go higher if I just kept sticking the generator in it.
But I got bored. This concentration brew also does not appear to make me
herx or anything.
Just a few months ago on a lyme forum a lady had fast developing
paralysis. CS reversed it very quickly. This, and many other anecdotes,
would suggest that CS does cross the BBB to a meaningful degree.
David
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:13 PM, mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote
Nebulized CS can treat lung cancer.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:04 PM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
What is uncontrolled de-differentiation? Perhaps almost a cancer,
perhaps a scar tissue, but
anyway, not good I can imagine.
So those who nebulize CS are increasing their chances of lung
We posted an abstract earlier that implied that silver ions can be
liposomally encapsulated without reacting with the lecithin. If true, one
could take silver citrate solution and like 20,000 PPM and do some
professional lipo or PEG-lipo encapsulation on it. Liposomes, especially
PEG liposomes,
Is it dangerous to ingest these two supplements near each other? I heard
silver iodide is harmful to health.
FYI my unit runs off of two AA batteries and has slowly made its way up to
a 36uS batch right now. Hope it just keeps going.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
This is interesting as this suggest that while there is a limit to how
much AgOH can
silica)
That's what I would start with if it were me. Get the things out that
could be causing it (toxins, infections, food allergies). And put the
things the body needs to build it all back up (vitamins, minerals, amino
acids, phospholipids, essential fatty acids).
David
This is to inform members of this list of the passing away of Jim
Meissner at the age of 70 from cancer. He is a member of this group
(though hasn't posted much for several years I believe). He was an
inventor and sold a CS generator among other things. He first
introduced me to silver which
I don't know about magnetic pulsers, but I know anecdotes that clearly show
using the wrong pole of a magnet can be very damaging to health.
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Douglas Haack douglasha...@yahoo.comwrote:
Melly B,
let me be as gentle as I can.
Please state your reference/s and
I don't have argyria. Just brainstorming. EDTA chelation has not worked
on argyria.
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis
thehatefuln...@comcast.net wrote:
You need chelation.
On 12/25/2011 12:26 AM, David AuBuchon wrote:
Could you take a bath in something like
earlier that seemed to imply that silver ions do
not interact with the liposomes once encapsulated.
Any thoughts?
David
Oh and now I'm out of citric acid. Anyone know if I can get it in bulk
locally? Or the best deal online?
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:24 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:
So based on the Silver 100 patent, I got silver oxide, citric acid, and
potassium citrate. Their solution
Could you take a bath in something like peroxide or citric acid or idunno
to treat argyria?
I second the pure CS stings like heck in neti pot.
David
it to his list of true colloidal silver products, but never got a
response.
David
yellow in the grooves also, but it comes of with a scrub.
David
up suggested
that particles provide sites of nucleation (which I guess just means
places for plateout to start?), and silver chloride plateouts out on them.
And it does not matter that the particles are not metallic silver as in
the case of the snowflake?
David
am I getting it correctly?
David
published this excellent article on PEMF.
Makes me really want to get one ($20,000 for the best unit though!) Maybe
someday.
(IT IS A PDF):
http://www.publichealthalert.org/pdf/2012_01.pdf
David
of particle formation as AgOH clumps right at the site of the
electrode?
just talking out of something
David
Mike has done stable high 30's at least. There is something he is doing
that has a lesson in it, I'll say. I'll be interested to see how high my
ordinary unit can go though.
David
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da
I've tried it. Did not feel anything. I have chronic lyme related
illness.
I have heard 4 anecdotes of liposomal vitamin C removing tooth pain. Other
people spray DMSO and CS on the tooth, and also nasally.
David
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:
Have
in the intestines, but it will not be able to
handle the systemic problem.
It is noteworthy that I get any results at all, as at present, no other
silver product does so for me. Though EIS does prevent me from backsliding
systemically.
David
?
Ag4O4 as an isolated chemical in higher amounts would be a completely
different product. People mention it from time to time, and I would be
interested in trying it if someone can guide me how to do so (i.e. how to
obtain it and take it)
David
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Bob Banever bbane
PEMF and magnetic mattresses are two other magnetic applications.
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:37 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
Renee,
I really would appreciate any info you can find for me re magnetic pulser
use instead of taped on magnets. I cannot use tape.as I have not found
over time after the batch is finished would also need to be viewed. Also
visible plateout or fallout. Also potential contamination sources.
David
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:
Would you mind sharing more details on this? How small must the batch
. That, in essence, could give more time for things
to disperse (analogous to turning off the power on a higher current
generator every now and then).
Skepticism diminishing...
David
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
One other thing I forgot to metion in my
They've been making an EIS generator since 1968???
David
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@me.com wrote:
On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Jim Holmes wrote:
Hello Ted,-- (Tel)
That looks like a great device, and at a good price.
But when reading about it, I came
eventually get an infinite conductance and the
curve may look asymptotic at some point.
I recall that after terminating the brew, there is some conductance drop in
the next day or so, but it is much less than the conductance drop seen with
regular EIS.
David
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 AM
hopeless.
David, are you still on his forum?
Supposedly he will eventually have a instruction manual for others to
replicate his generator, so for most of us, we just wait for that and his
documentation of the process and his experiments.
Seriously though, a lot of info could eventually come out
I the files section of the iodine yahoo group, I am sure there must be
detailed info on how to do an iodine loading test properly.
David
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:50 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
Paul wrote:
. if I put some Iodine on a flat surface like a desk it stains
I know this is bizarre, but when I looked up Ingrid's site, the first thing
that come into my head was she looks like Budwig.
David
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jonathan B. Britten
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
I believe that if you are able to contact Ingrid Naiman, who has a
website
to 50mg now and
to 200 to 300mg for people with cancer.
It detoxes bromide and fluoride so you have to work up the dose. I am
getting detox reactions with iodine right now also.
David
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