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2016-12-15 Thread Phil Morrison
One can cuff at several spots from wrist to several inches above wrist. No need to burn out cuffing at the same spot. Also, when I need pulser, I find cuffing for shorter periods several times a day more effective than cuffing for one long session.

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2016-12-14 Thread PT Ferrance
No, I use self-adhering electrodes.  They still burn. From: Steve Levine <scl...@cox.net> To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: PT Ferrance <ptf2...@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:15 PM Subject: Re: CS>Zappers The higher frequency 30khz shouldn

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2016-12-13 Thread Steve Levine
don't know if it is the waveform or the frequencies but I keep getting burned.PT From: Steve <scl...@cox.net> To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:08 PM Subject: Re: CS>Zappers The zappers with the copper handholds do a better job because they hav

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2016-12-13 Thread PT Ferrance
I have the Z4Ex and it also burns me even when I put it on pads.  I don't know if it is the waveform or the frequencies but I keep getting burned.PT From: Steve <scl...@cox.net> To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:08 PM Subject: Re: CS&g

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2016-12-13 Thread wanda85929
I've found taking supplements that r known to benefit the skin helps like vitamin c, Serrapeptase, and MSM. These all help restore skin. And keep the current turned down. Gail Sent from my iPad > On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:02 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: > > How do you keep

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2016-12-13 Thread Steve
et blistered every time. > Thanks. > PT > > > > From: Phil Morrison <philmorrison...@gmail.com> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:45 AM > Subject: CS>Zappers > > > The immune system you were born with is > about as

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2016-12-13 Thread PT Ferrance
How do you keep the zapper from burning your skin?  I like the idea and I have 2 including a Don Croft but I get blistered every time.Thanks.PT From: Phil Morrison <philmorrison...@gmail.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:45 AM Subject: CS&g

CS>Zappers

2016-12-12 Thread Phil Morrison
The immune system you were born with is about as good as it gets. Any thing piped into the body thereafter helps little, or more likely, may cause damage. That's where silver kicks in and picks up the slack. And, if the problem still persists, the zapper is a must. Sota's silver pulser,

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2003-10-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
I had never seen that theory before. I guess the questions is, does that theory support the facts, which are: If you increase the Beck device to 30 KHZ it does not work. If you make the Clark zapper use a bipolar rather than a unipolar wave, it does not work. At this time I do not see any

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2003-10-28 Thread Dan Nave
... Dan Re: cs Zappers From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:40:07 Thanks Dan, That LMC555 timer circuit is rather strange. Uusually the timing circuit is a resistor series between pin 8 - 7- 6 and the Cap from pin 6 to ground. I got knee

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2003-10-28 Thread Robert Berger
Dan, Your schemtic is ok. If the C1 is 3.2mfd then the freq is 10 Hz. ole Bob Dan Nave wrote: I don't know if there is a typo or what. My schematic that I pulled out of my file shows the 22.1K resistor going from pin 6 to 7 and a 1K resistor going from pin 7 to VCC (pin 8). I don't have

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2003-10-28 Thread Dan Nave
I have a .001uf cap from pin 2 and 6 to ground and a .01uf cap from pin 5 to ground. Frequency is somewhere around 30KHz. The circuitry on the left is, of course, merely to give an indication of battery voltage and indicate when to change the battery. Dan Re: cs Zappers From: Robert

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2003-10-28 Thread
. The circuitry on the left is, of course, merely to give an indication of battery voltage and indicate when to change the battery. Dan Re: cs Zappers From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:23:36 Dan, Your schemtic is ok

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2003-10-27 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Please see the SOTA website for details. The output for the Beck device is 31 volts produced by a nine volt battery. The Tools for Health site has a page explaining the differences between the devices. JBB On Monday, Oct 27, 2003, at 01:02 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Jonathan

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2003-10-27 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs Zappers Hi, Richard, Pardon, but I want to say again: The Beck device is a Silver Pulser; the Clarke device is a zapper.The distinction is important.The latter is 12 volts; the former is 31. SOTA is discontinuing

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2003-10-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Hi, Richard, Soon SOTA will support only the Beck Pulser. They will drop the Clarke Zapper. You have gotten one of the last Clarke Zappers to be sold by SOTA. They now offer a second device for half price if you buy one. They sell both Beck and Clarke devices

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2003-10-27 Thread Robert Berger
Jonathan, you reference the Sota web site but never give the URL ! Why? ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com

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2003-10-27 Thread Robert Berger
Marshall, Where can I get schematics for both the zapper and the pulser? Ole Bob P.E., EE -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:

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2003-10-27 Thread Dan Nave
There is a zapper schematic on this page: http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Zapper/Zapper_schematic.htm Dan Re: cs Zappers From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:20:39 Marshall, Where can I get schematics for both the zapper

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2003-10-27 Thread Dan Nave
Beck device? http://www.sotainstruments.com/images/Beck_Improved.gif -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list

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2003-10-27 Thread Robert Berger
Thanks Dan, That LMC555 timer circuit is rather strange. Uusually the timing circuit is a resistor series between pin 8 - 7- 6 and the Cap from pin 6 to ground. I got knee relief running 10 Hz rather 30 kHz, and that is safe for the eyes. The approved medical TENS unit runs at 10 Hz. Ole Bob

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2003-10-27 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Hi, Marshall, Good questions. My understanding, as a layman relying on a variety of sources, was based on a different theory of the mechanism of action.One theory, supposedly based on dark field microscopy of live blood, is that the Beck device and other blood electrification

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2003-10-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Hi, Richard, Pardon, but I want to say again: The Beck device is a Silver Pulser; the Clarke device is a zapper.The distinction is important.The latter is 12 volts; the former is 31. The zapper is 9 volts, not 12. I don't believe the initial voltage

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2003-10-26 Thread Jack Dayton
Richard Harris 10/24/03 5:27 AM Wrote: (This description is in their own words--Model # ZHC5 $110 + shipping). WE have yet to observe any positive effects; therefore my questions as to how when YOU know it's doing anything. €€ Currently I have no intention of

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2003-10-26 Thread Richard Harris
Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs Zappers Richard Harris 10/24/03 5:27 AM Wrote: (This description is in their own words--Model # ZHC5 $110

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2003-10-25 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs Zappers The one that you are talking about isn't a zapper.it is a blood electrification device

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2003-10-25 Thread Richard Harris
would appreciate your outlook and ideas. Many thanks, Richard Harris, 56 yt FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs Zappers Hi, Richard, Pardon

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2003-10-25 Thread Robb Allen
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: RE: cs Zappers Hi Jonathan, Thanks for your info, but my SOTA is the New Model ZHC5 @$110 US and is clearly identified as a Super square wave Zapper using a 9 v battery and peaks to 12 volts as long as the battery lasts. I'm tickled with it and my

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2003-10-25 Thread tdg39
@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: Re: cs Zappers Hi Richard..I hope you'll keep us posted of any progress with your zapper...I'm beginning to think that perhaps much longer exposer times are needed for most people..we'll see.Robb - Original

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2003-10-24 Thread Richard Harris
10:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs Zappers The one that you are talking about isn't a zapper.it is a blood electrification devicezapper pulse a square wave positive offset signaland zappers also put out much less current..Robb - Original Message

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2003-10-24 Thread Robb Allen
24, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: RE: cs Zappers Hi Robb, You failed to address the inquirer you were answering--could have been me--thanks for your advice and patience with us seekers--my wife I use a SOTA (Beck) zapper it does have pulse a square wave (Super-Square Wave output circuitry

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2003-10-24 Thread Rob Combis
it, prevented me from getting any cold sores which I use to get every few weeks. Rob -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 10/24/2003 12:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Subject: Re: cs Zappers Hi Richard...I can't answer

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2003-10-22 Thread Robb Allen
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:46 PM Subject: Re: cs Zappers Hi guys, I'm interested, at long last, in zappers. At this point I think I'd rather make one myself than shell out an extra $100, which I don't really have, and give it a try. I have basic wiring skills

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2003-10-21 Thread silversurfer1952 .
Hi guys, I'm interested, at long last, in zappers. At this point I think I'd rather make one myself than shell out an extra $100, which I don't really have, and give it a try. I have basic wiring skills and could make the one pictured on the microelectricitygermkiller homepage without any