Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Ode Coyote
U Current is not expressed in milli volts? Ode OdeAt 04:41 AM 12/13/2009 -0800, you wrote: Ah, good. I'll forget the AC then. I recently used the electrophoresis power supplies to make a couple of gallons, and they came out somewhere between 25-30 ppm, and very clear. I limited

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Ode Coyote
the technique and scale up to faster production. First step is to develop the best method. Dick From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:24:05 PM Subject: Re: CSac or dc? The answer is DC. If you didn't know that, you are woefully

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Ode Coyote
tested were produced utilizing the AC process. From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:24:05 PM Subject: Re: CSac or dc? The answer is DC. If you didn't know that, you are woefully behind in your understanding of CS creation

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Richard Goodwin
, December 12, 2009 7:10:05 AM Subject: Re: CSac or dc? DC that you have to switch polarity on every minute or so, IS AC. You're just Alternating the Current slower than 50- 60 times a second and it's Square wave, not Sine wave AC. Voltage controls ion velocity. At a high frequency AC, voltage

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Richard Goodwin
: CSac or dc? Ya, but don't call it AC in this context if you want clarity... Call it polarity switching or very low frequency AC. For higher frequency AC, just try putting a diode in line. You'll have pulsed DC Dan On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: DC

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Richard Goodwin
Right, meant mA From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 6:30:04 AM Subject: Re: CSac or dc? U Current is not expressed in milli volts? Ode OdeAt 04:41 AM 12/13/2009 -0800, you wrote: Ah

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
*From:* cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, December 11, 2009 6:24:05 PM *Subject:* Re: CSac or dc? The answer is DC. If you didn't know that, you are woefully behind in your understanding of CS creation and your research. Suggested: http

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
. *From:* cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, December 11, 2009 6:24:05 PM *Subject:* Re: CSac or dc? The answer is DC. If you didn't know that, you are woefully behind in your understanding of CS creation and your

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-14 Thread Richard Goodwin
-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 1:33:09 PM Subject: Re: CSac or dc? This confirms what I said previously. LVDC produces higher ionic content and smaller particles than HVAC. That site rates collidal silver by the amount of colloid it contains, so they rate the HVAC

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-13 Thread Richard Goodwin
-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 4:53:44 PM Subject: Re: CSac or dc? Richard Goodwin wrote: Which do you think works better for making EIS, DC that you have to switch polarity on every minute or so, or AC, assuming everything else is equal? Dick I have made thousands of gallons

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-13 Thread Richard Goodwin
trying to refine the technique and scale up to faster production. First step is to develop the best method. Dick From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:24:05 PM Subject: Re: CSac or dc

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-13 Thread Richard Goodwin
were produced utilizing the AC process. From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:24:05 PM Subject: Re: CSac or dc? The answer is DC. If you didn't know that, you are woefully behind in your

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-13 Thread cking001
If you really want to experiment, you CAN make a gallon in about ten minutes by using high voltage. Convert a microwave oven with Duncans info: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=81791 Chuck Why reach for the musket when the custard pie will do?

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-13 Thread cking001
Yeah, my bad. The AC methods I'm aware of are in the kilovolt range, but you're right. Chuck Without the last minute, how much would ever get done? On 12/13/2009 8:19:15 AM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com) wrote: The answer is DC.

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-12 Thread Ode Coyote
DC that you have to switch polarity on every minute or so, IS AC. You're just Alternating the Current slower than 50- 60 times a second and it's Square wave, not Sine wave AC. Voltage controls ion velocity. At a high frequency AC, voltage has to be very high so the Ions can get

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-12 Thread Dan Nave
Ya, but don't call it AC in this context if you want clarity... Call it polarity switching or very low frequency AC. For higher frequency AC, just try putting a diode in line. You'll have pulsed DC Dan On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:  DC that you

CSac or dc?

2009-12-11 Thread Richard Goodwin
Which do you think works better for making EIS, DC that you have to switch polarity on every minute or so, or AC, assuming everything else is equal? Dick

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Richard Goodwin wrote: Which do you think works better for making EIS, DC that you have to switch polarity on every minute or so, or AC, assuming everything else is equal? Dick I have made thousands of gallons of both. HVAC is good for 3-5 ppm, but the particles get big quite quickly above

Re: CSac or dc?

2009-12-11 Thread cking001
The answer is DC. If you didn't know that, you are woefully behind in your understanding of CS creation and your research. Suggested: http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html http://silver-lightning.com/research.html http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html

Re: CSAC vs. DC

2005-12-14 Thread Ode Coyote
x-rich That's because you use Yahoo mail that mis translates ancient text based programs like this Eudora 3X. I don't send attachments. At 08:58 AM 12/13/2005 -0800, you wrote: excerpt I can't seem to open any of Ode Coyote's attachments. They only say they're scanned for virus, but

Re: CSAC vs. DC

2005-12-13 Thread Ode Coyote
The difference is so small as to be irrelevent. Nor are the differences consistant on either end of the debate. You can, however, make silver nitrate with high voltage AC or DC and not know you did...and you can kill yourself very quickly by mis-operating the equipment, but you can't do either

Re: CSAC vs. DC

2005-12-13 Thread Pat
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CSAC vs. DC

2005-12-12 Thread Pat
This book is available to read on the internet Silver Colloids, Do They Work by Ronald Gibbs. He has been the director of the center for Colloidal Science at the University of Delaware since 1981. He states in it that The DC-produced colloidal silver products that they tested had the

Re: CSAC to DC

2005-04-13 Thread debbie cozens
me too. Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:Sol, Yes, I use an AC to DC component setup. Terry __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

CSAC to DC

2005-04-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Sol, Yes, I use an AC to DC component setup. Terry __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Re: CSAC to DC

2005-04-12 Thread Mike Monett
CSAC to DC From: Terry Chamberlin Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:18:08 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79527.html Sol, Yes, I use an AC to DC component setup. Terry Terry, you mentioned using 600 Volts. Do you have a specially wound transformer, or do you use a voltage quadrupler

CSAC vs. DC Generator

2002-05-27 Thread Paul Ladendorf
I've seen different opinions on which is the best way to make CS...AC or DC. Anyone have any thoughts or know of a good website that addresses this issue? Thanks in advance, Paul Ladendorf __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA

Re: CSAC vs. DC Generator

2002-05-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
They all make CS of acceptable (in fact good) quality. DC has the advantage of being safe, and not requiring a lot of expensive equipment. AC has the advantage of sometimes producing a product with better stability, and of making CS at a much higher rate than DC at the expense of more cost, and

Re: CSAC vs. DC Generator

2002-05-27 Thread Gary Green
On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 04:20 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: DC has the advantage of being safe, and not requiring a lot of expensive equipment. AC has the advantage of sometimes producing a product with better stability, and of making CS at a much higher rate than DC at the expense of more

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-22 Thread Ode Coyote
I do believe that that process could be vastly improved. The HVAC unit I have has no current controls whatever and will burn itself down in mere minutes. This particular generator is dangerous junk. However, I have little interest in fooling with it. It was a gift from a happy LVDC convert. I

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question. There is ore than one type of DC generator and more than one type of AC generator as well. I have an HVAC generator that makes black brown mud in less than 4 minutes and DC generators that make an apparently fine product at 20

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-21 Thread Robert Berger
20, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question. There is ore than one type of DC generator and more than one type of AC generator as well. I have an HVAC generator that makes black brown mud in less than 4 minutes and DC generators that make an apparently fine product at 20

CSAC or dc, more than one kind of each

2001-09-21 Thread Langsley Russell
In my continuing quest for information prior to purchasing a CS generator I previously asked whether AC or DC was preferable. Not surprisingly I got differing opinions in responses. One of the things that was pointed out is that there are more than one kind of each and that the product produced

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-21 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 9/21/2001 11:38:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bober...@swbell.net writes: Subj:Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question. Date:9/21/2001 11:38:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time From:bober...@swbell.net (Robert Berger) Reply-to: A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list

Re: CSAC or dc, more than one kind of each

2001-09-21 Thread Solar
Hello Langsley, Friday, September 21, 2001, 1:39:40 PM, you wrote: LR In my continuing quest for information prior to purchasing a CS generator I LR previously asked whether AC or DC was preferable. Not surprisingly I got LR differing opinions in responses. LR One of the things that was pointed

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-20 Thread brooks bradley
- Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question. Hi Langsley, You have just stepped into a hornet's nest!!! The people on this list cannot agree

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-19 Thread Robert Berger
Dan, Contact meoff list. Subject: Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question. How do I build a HVAC ARC system? Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ

CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-18 Thread Langsley Russell
Hi again list. In my continuing quest for information to help me decide which CS generator to buy, over the weekend I read a booklet called Silver Colloids by Ronald J. Gibbs PhD, director of the Center for Colloidal Science at the university of Delaware. in it he says, ...The DC-produced

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-18 Thread Frank Key
Langsley T Russell wrote: Is anybody familiar with this author and/or this work? I was a colleague of Prof. Ronald Gibbs and worked with him on this and other research until his death in May 2000. I will be happy to answer your questions, but it may be better if such communication is

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-18 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Langsley, You have just stepped into a hornet's nest!!! The people on this list cannot agree as to which is best, ionic silver or particle silver. Technically speaking only colloidal silver must be made up of particles of silver (Ag0). However since one cannot change common usage of the word

Re: CSAC or DC, that is the question.

2001-09-18 Thread Dan R Smith
How do I build a HVAC ARC system? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in

CSAC vs DC production methods and quality

1999-10-05 Thread Steve King
Fred- Have you by any chance noticed a difference in quality between AC and DC produced CS? Is it possible to make CS that has very small stable particle sizes with both AC and DC? Some say there is more small particles in AC. Other say DC is fine. Your thoughts? Thanks a lot, Steve King At

CSAC vs DC CS production

1999-10-05 Thread Steve King
Dear Brooks: Thanks for your valuable message about the use of sugar-bearing compounds in the production of CS. A quick question if I may: In your studies, does electron microscopy reveal any difference in quality of CS made by AC vs DC current flow? Many thanks, Steve King At 12:35 PM