Re: CSTumor reduction

2010-09-26 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
be to put 1/8 teaspoon of MMS in 2.5 gallons of water and use that solution. Tom -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction -- The Silver List

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2010-09-25 Thread Tom Poast
Hello Dee, The easiest way would be to put 1/8 teaspoon of MMS in 2.5 gallons of water and use that solution. Tom -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor

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2010-09-22 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thank you Tom--the sodium chlorite I have is the one sold as MMS which comes with a bottle of citric acid. This I believe, is 28% so I would need to dilute this quite a lot before I added it to water wouldn't I? Unfortunately, I am mathematically challenged, so if someone could tell me a

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2010-09-21 Thread Tom Poast
sensitive and chlorous acid (ASC) may irritate it. Tom -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction Thanks Tom, so as I have just discovered I have shingles in my

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2010-09-21 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Could you tell me the ratio for topical use in the eye Tom? dee On 21 Sep 2010, at 16:07, Tom Poast wrote: Hello Dee, A little bit of sodium chlorite in drinking water will be beneficial, but I would approach both issues topically. You don't want to use ASC in any strength near the eye,

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2010-09-21 Thread Tom Poast
Hello Dee, We have used 1 ml of 5% sodium chlorite in 500 ml of water with animals and people. Tom -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction Could you

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2010-09-20 Thread Tom Poast
a closer look at the MMS protocol. Tom -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction so does sodium chlorite do the same job as ASC Tom? and if so, why do we use ASC

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2010-09-20 Thread Tom Poast
Hello Renee, Now, if we could get everyone talking in PPM, there would be no confusion. J Tom From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTumor reduction Great explanation, as usual, Tom. But--since most

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2010-09-20 Thread Renee
Lol, you just keep dreaming. It's good for the soul. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Now, if we could get everyone talking in PPM, there would be no confusion… J

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2010-09-20 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thanks Tom, so as I have just discovered I have shingles in my actual eye, would you suggest drinking say, five drops of ASC in half a glass of water - or - one or two drops of sodium chlorite in a half a glass of water? Also, my dog has infected anal sacs--do you think a couple of drops of

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2010-09-18 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
so does sodium chlorite do the same job as ASC Tom? and if so, why do we use ASC? thanks. dee On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:01, Tom Poast wrote: Hello Renee, When I think of MMS, I think of the whole MMS protocol. When I think of sodium chlorite, only one part of the thinking process goes to

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2010-09-18 Thread Renee
Great explanation, as usual, Tom. But--since most people only know MMS, and can not get the flakes--or don't have them and don't want to mess making their own liquid--I think most everyone will stick with the MMS designation. At least when someone says that, we know it's the 28 (22.4)% solution,

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2010-09-18 Thread needling around
Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:25 AM Subject: RE: CSTumor reduction Great explanation, as usual, Tom. But--since most people only know MMS, and can not get the flakes--or don't have them and don't want to mess making

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2010-09-18 Thread Renee
Simply explanation is--if you are really sick, use the activated. If you are not ill and wanting to stay that way, use unactivated. If it's a few drops in water, it more or less winds up being stabilized oxygen, which many people have taken daily for years. No colds, flu, etc. Still, I would

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2010-09-18 Thread needling around
Thank you Renee. That really helps. PT - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction Simply explanation is--if you are really sick, use the activated. If you are not ill

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2010-09-17 Thread Ode Coyote
Obviously a tongue in cheek leap, but based on fact and logic. There is no electricity IN the body. There is only electro-chemical interaction...ion exchange transporting electrons, chemically. The surface of the body can act like a capacitor with different parts being a better dryer

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2010-09-17 Thread Tom Poast
can be referred to as a very low percentage sodium chlorite solution. When an acid is added, you have ASC. Tom From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction Unactivated MMS, rarely used

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2010-09-16 Thread Dan Nave
I think you are jumping to wild conclusions when you compare what happens to electricity in the body with alkaline water devices. Dan On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:  Voltage is not current. One of the electro-chemicals produced this way is Sodium

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2010-09-15 Thread Ode Coyote
Voltage is not current. One of the electro-chemicals produced this way is Sodium Hydroxidewhich dissolves fat and oils making a water soluble substancesoap. New era in lipsuction? Ode At 07:39 AM 9/14/2010 -0500, you wrote: Wow, another interesting story. I'm guessing you had

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2010-09-15 Thread Renee
Unactivated MMS, rarely used, is simply the drops from an MMS bottle and no acid added to the drops. It can be used straight from the bottle for burns (But must be washed off in 30 seconds) and some people have put a few drops of straight MMS into a liter of water and sipped on that all day

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2010-09-14 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hold on--I've lost track here a bit! Was this for the dog with the lump? dee On 14 Sep 2010, at 04:50, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: OR...you could just use a drop unactivated in half a glass of water... I seriously doubt anybody will get a negative reaction. You're worrying this thing to

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2010-09-14 Thread Alan Jones
Wow, another interesting story. I'm guessing you had to cut his hair in the places where you placed the electrodes? What device did you use? Alan On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.netwrote: Renee, That's great news. Keep up the program and let us

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2010-09-14 Thread Renee
People were asking if making up some stabilized oxygen from regular strength MMS, because I was using purchased stabilized oxygen in the dog's water mix. So yes--this was for the dog's lump. BUT--people take stabilized oxygen every day for years with no ill effect, and claim it improves their

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2010-09-14 Thread Renee
Right! Great, thanks. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- That's it. Of course, you could double and triple the recipe if you want. The percentages would stay the same.

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2010-09-14 Thread Renee
Hey Bob. I've mentioned on another list where you posted this, that I am going to try the Godzilla on my female's fatty tumor. I'll report whether it does anything or not. Thanks for this. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Nevertheless, I decided one day to treat it

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2010-09-14 Thread needling around
: CSTumor reduction People were asking if making up some stabilized oxygen from regular strength MMS, because I was using purchased stabilized oxygen in the dog's water mix. So yes--this was for the dog's lump. BUT--people take stabilized oxygen every day for years with no ill

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2010-09-14 Thread Lisa
Would you be using unactivated MMS to accomplish this? WOW, that'd be wicked cool to make as it's so inexpensive! _ From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction So you are saying add 1

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2010-09-14 Thread needling around
Since we are working with chemicals, how would we measure .47 ounces? Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: RE: CSTumor reduction Would you be using unactivated MMS to accomplish this? WOW

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2010-09-14 Thread Stephen Rose
:* Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:59 AM *Subject:* RE: CSTumor reduction Would you be using “unactivated” MMS to accomplish this? WOW, that’d be wicked cool to make as it’s so

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2010-09-14 Thread Renee
It's called 'close enough'.I'd do 6 and a half ounces. Because like Chuck said--it's not super critical. People have taken just drops of straight, full strength MMS in water and gotten results. I simply prefer to be a bit closer to actual stabilized oxygen--which can be from between 2 and

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2010-09-14 Thread Renee
Yes. MMS is very versatile. You can use it as Jim suggests, you can use it unactivated as drops in water. You can dilute it to get various strengths to use for different things, such as 5% for cleaning, 2% for stabilized oxygen. Having a bottle of regular MMS around is a very handy thing.

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2010-09-14 Thread needling around
Thanks. I was thinking more the other ingredient. PT - Original Message - From: Stephen Rose s9...@penguinmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:22 AM Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction Just round it to one half. The difference is negligible. I

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2010-09-14 Thread Lisa
[mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction It's called 'close enough'.I'd do 6 and a half ounces. Because like Chuck said--it's not super critical. People have taken just drops of straight, full strength MMS

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2010-09-14 Thread Renee
No. CellFood is NOT stabilized oxygen. Two totally different things. CellFood has all sorts of minerals and amino acids in it. Stabilized oxygen is simply sodium chlorite in water at a 2 to 3% solution. I used cell SALTS, CellFOOD, and a product called Activated Oxygen, which is stabilized

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2010-09-14 Thread Stephen Rose
:* Re: CSTumor reduction It's called 'close enough'. I'd do 6 and a half ounces. Because like Chuck said--it's not super critical. People have taken just drops of straight, full strength MMS in water and gotten results. I simply prefer to be a bit closer to actual stabilized oxygen--which can

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2010-09-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
If you want 2% stabalized oxygen and have mms then simply dilute the mms about 11:1 to get that. If you want 3% then dilute it about 7:1. Marshall Renee wrote: People were asking if making up some stabilized oxygen from regular strength MMS, because I was using purchased stabilized oxygen in

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2010-09-14 Thread Bob Banever
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction Wow, another interesting story. I'm guessing you had to cut his hair in the places where you placed the electrodes? What device did you use? Alan On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

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2010-09-14 Thread Lisa
Thanks :) -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction If you want 2% stabalized oxygen and have mms then simply dilute the mms about 11:1 to get that. If you

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2010-09-14 Thread needling around
Thank you Marshall. This is much clearer to me and it can be done with drops. PT - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction If you want 2% stabalized oxygen

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2010-09-14 Thread Renee
Well, how much easier is that? Thanks Marshall. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- If you want 2% stabalized oxygen and have mms then simply dilute the mms about 11:1 to get that. If you want 3% then dilute it about 7:1.

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2010-09-14 Thread cking001
- Original Message - From: Lisa [link: mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: RE: CSTumor reduction Would you be using “unactivated” MMS to accomplish this? WOW, that’d be wicked cool to make as it’s so inexpensive

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2010-09-14 Thread needling around
, September 14, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: RE: CSTumor reduction Yes. MMS is very versatile. You can use it as Jim suggests, you can use it unactivated as drops in water. You can dilute it to get various strengths to use for different things, such as 5% for cleaning, 2% for stabilized oxygen

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2010-09-13 Thread Alan Jones
That's great news! I've recently been researching H2O2 and have read that it's been used to help cancer in pets, when added to their drinking water (typical dosage is 1oz 3% in 1qt water) I'm guessing H2O2 is considerably less expensive than your oxygen supplement, have you considered it? Alan

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2010-09-13 Thread Renee
Hey Alan. I have considered it, but I already have a large 8 ounce bottle of the oxygen, and at only 10 drops a day, it lasts a long time, so at this point I'm reluctant to change the protocol. I had actually originally thought to start with h2o2, but was trying to figure out how many drops to

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2010-09-13 Thread Dan Nave
What is in the oxygen drops? Is that the same as MMS (sodium chlorite)? Dan On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Alan. I have considered it, but I already have a large 8 ounce bottle of the oxygen, and at only 10 drops a day, it lasts a long time, so at

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2010-09-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This is a good idea Alan. dee On 13 Sep 2010, at 18:29, Alan Jones wrote: That's great news! I've recently been researching H2O2 and have read that it's been used to help cancer in pets, when added to their drinking water (typical dosage is 1oz 3% in 1qt water) I'm guessing H2O2 is

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2010-09-13 Thread Renee
Pretty much. Only MMS is full strength at 28% while stabilized (or activated) oxygen is between 2 and 3% of sodium chlorite. So no need to activate it externally with acid. It activates with your stomach acid. It does need to be diluted in water though, even at that strength. So a person with

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2010-09-13 Thread Lisa
Ooh.I have a supply of MMS and would actually LOVE to know how to make my own oxygen drops. Any math whizzes out there to help? Lisa _ From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTumor reduction Pretty

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2010-09-13 Thread Stephen Rose
there to help? Lisa *From:* Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 2:27 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSTumor reduction Pretty much. Only MMS is full strength at 28% while

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2010-09-13 Thread Renee
Ah--the rub comes in here--Jim Humble says it's 28% sodium chlorite. It is NOT. Since the sodium chlorite that the MMS is made from also has some filler' material in the flakes, when the s chlorite is made into MMS as per Jim's instructions, it's actually a 22.4% of Sodium Chlorite. The other

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2010-09-13 Thread Stephen Rose
I did wonder about that. I think we can fix it. Let's modify it this way: .224/x = .03 Solving for x, x = .224/.03 = 7.4 So, subtracting the one ounce of fluid that represents the mms to be diluted, you would add 6.47 ounces of water to get 3% using the 22.4% sodium chlorite

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2010-09-13 Thread cking001
OR...you could just use a drop unactivated in half a glass of water... I seriously doubt anybody will get a negative reaction. You're worrying this thing to death... Chuck Yes, but did you read the REALLY fine print? On 9/13/2010 11:18:39 PM,

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2010-09-13 Thread jaxi
I think if it works right it is a heck of a lot less expensive than the stabilized O2. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Stephen Rose s9...@penguinmail.comwrote: I did wonder about that. I think we can fix it. Let's modify it this way: .224/x = .03 Solving for x, x = .224/.03 =

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2010-09-13 Thread Bob Banever
Renee, That's great news. Keep up the program and let us know what happens. My dog, a 14 year old Bichon Frise, had a tumor on the side of his neck. Since it was always fairly soft and moveble (not fixed) I figured it was a fatty tumor. Nevertheless, I decided one day to treat it

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2010-09-13 Thread Renee
So you are saying add 1 ounce of MMS to the 6.47 ounces of water? It would be best to be able to make up a good size amount, because then you'd have it ready. I know Tom has talked about making it up per dose, but having a bottle of it handy would save time and brain power. Samala, Renee

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2010-09-13 Thread Stephen Rose
That's it. Of course, you could double and triple the recipe if you want. The percentages would stay the same. Steve On 9/13/2010 10:58 PM, Renee wrote: So you are saying add 1 ounce of MMS to the 6.47 ounces of water? It would be best to be able to make up a good size amount, because