With silver being so sensitive to *any* contaminants, I would have
thought it would show some colour change or something, if something had
become contaminated within it. Would not the taste change? I gave some
three year old silver (a bit cruddy) to someone who had never used it
and was a
Why am I not surprised to hear that!
N.
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From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
With silver being so sensitive to *any* contaminants, I would have thought
it would show
Nenah - you have made a very important point. While EIS is my 'ace',
maybe I'm undoing what I'm trying to do. Actually, I don't have a
clue what the cause of the itch is. The vet saying it is a yeast
problem only makes sense if I'm killing too much internal bacteria
with the EIS.
Lisa -
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From: Indi indule...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
Quote:
[armed with only an EC meter and a laser pointer, for the simple reason that
those devices are not enough to *prove*
Dear N.
I don't use anything to 'measure' the CS I use. I'd like to have something
for this purpose. I think Ode sells a meter of some sort. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:15 AM
You'd probably want to send it to a lab. Around three hundred dollars for
true answers. I realize it isn't cheap (or even affordable for most of us).
A good chemical analysis is not something an untrained person can do at home.
People get degrees in chemistry, you know. :)
As I've said before,
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 09:27:55AM -0400, Faith Gagne wrote:
Dear N.
I don't use anything to 'measure' the CS I use. I'd like to have
something for this purpose. I think Ode sells a meter of some sort.
Faith G.
Ah, interesting. :)
- Original Message - From: Neville
I'm glad the silver worked for your friend. See, reporting anecdotal
evidence is fine. My difference with Ode is that he crossed a line,
saying unchanged after five years, claiming he proved it with an EC
meter and laser pointer. That is the very soul of speaking in absolutes.
:) You and I may
Morning Neville,
At 08:40 AM 10/18/2008, you wrote:
You'd probably want to send it to a lab. Around three hundred dollars for
true answers. I realize it isn't cheap (or even affordable for most of us).
A good chemical analysis is not something an untrained person can do at home.
People get
Thanks Wayne. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Morning Neville,
At 08:40 AM 10/18/2008, you wrote:
You'd probably want to send it to a lab.
So by that thinking, then are we all guilty on this list of giving EIS
to others and telling them of its wonders? After all, if it can't be
'proved' does this mean to say that it can't be true? Even though we
know categorically that is does work? dee
Indi wrote:
You'd probably want to
One Degree or 10, is not worth a nickle for arriving at the ppm of CS.
That's very silly. CS is a physical substance, and there are known methods which
are quite precise.
And a Chemist cannot usually operate the huge combination of
instruments used for
some measurements,
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 05:20:32PM +0100, Dee wrote:
So by that thinking, then are we all guilty on this list of giving EIS
to others and telling them of its wonders? After all, if it can't be
'proved' does this mean to say that it can't be true? Even though we
know categorically that
Within context.
If there are no observable changes, there are no changes in any practical
sense.
There are ALWAYS limits to observation.
I assure you that I am well aware of how tricky an EC meter can be after
going round and round with Hanna Tech for 3 months asking them why I was
Dear indi:
Thank you very much for your efforts. I think, after all, that you are
right about anecdotal evidence. I appreciate the fact that you are
discussing this. Truthfully, I have wondered about the condition of CS when
stored for a while, and wonder how much it has changed, and what
I apologize iin advance for getting in this issue but are you familiar with the
Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MTBI)? While you cannot determine someones
personality type from postings you can get some indications. Indi, I would
guess you as something close to an ISTJ and Ode closer to an INTP.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:21:22PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
I apologize iin advance for getting in this issue but are you familiar with
the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MTBI)? While you cannot determine someones
personality type from postings you can get some indications. Indi, I would
Hi, sorry if you've read this before. I'm not sure if there is a list
server issue or a problem at my end, but emails to and from the list
seem to be getting dropped somehow, and I really wanted to communicate
this:
An EC meter reveals *conductivity*; only proper chemical analysis can
reveal
Never did understand the flap about storage time of cs.
Other than the discussion is interesting, and the experimenters
results, it's kinda a big So What?.
I make a jug, or give a jugful away, and when it's used up I make some
more.
I dont NEED it to last for years or even months.
Instead of
But the thing is Indi, that if all of us had reacted the way you did,
and would not try it because there was not any provable data, then we
would *all* have been very badly off indeed, and would *never* have ever
used EIS! I for one, would have been much the poorer in health.
Therefore I
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 01:14:59PM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
Within context.
If there are no observable changes, there are no changes in any
practical sense.
There are ALWAYS limits to observation.
I assure you that I am well aware of how tricky an EC meter can be
after going round
Hi there Faith,
I have both an EC/TDS blah blah meter and a, 'supposedly', ppm meter. The
only reason I use any of them is cos I just don't trust the colour business
as much as some form of instrument, and no matter how criticised they are.
It seems the accepted thing is that slight colour
Hey, I agree 100% my friend, you are 'absolutely' right in what you are
saying, no argument from me there, but to me there are no 'absolutes' with
this stuff and from all the information I have perused I don't believe there
is a brain on the planet that will ever get a total understanding of
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:20 AM
Subject: CSMeasuring or Guessing
[Morning Neville,
You'd probably want to send it to a lab. Around three hundred dollars for
true answers. I realize it isn't
Don't ever 'chuck it', filter it or 'skim' it if you want or use it
topically, but you won't ever need to 'chuck it' Faith, [my conviction].
N.
- Original Message -
From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:48 AM
Subject: Re:
Thanks very much. I would prefer not to chuck it but indi brings up a very
good point, don't you think? Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
Oh, yeah, sure Faith, and quite rightly so, Ode has points also, I have
points and you have points and so do many others, and I'm not going to get
involved any deeper than I have done with my couple of responses to indi. I
know only too well what the discussion is about and I now have an
Sorry, but just as a point, EICS is in the same catagory to me as religion,
consider all the arguements which abound with that subject! When it is all
torn down it all comes to the same thing..belief, faith, blindly
following, or..conviction! See my point? There is nobody on this
- Original Message - From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
Dear indi:
Thank you very much for your efforts. I think, after all, that you
are right about anecdotal evidence. I
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 08:36:39AM +1030, Neville wrote:
Hey, I agree 100% my friend, you are 'absolutely' right in what you are
saying, no argument from me there, but to me there are no 'absolutes'
with this stuff and from all the information I have perused I don't
believe there is a
- Original Message -
From: Indi indule...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
Quote:
[Maybe part of my discomfort lies in the fact that I've become one of the
people I used to poke fun at, LOL.]
That
Paula,
I just wanted to report the latest with my dog's itching. He is
DRAMATICALLY better. He is not itching, the red raw places are healing, and
he also had some strange bite-looking things on his nether regions which are
healing (altho he doesn't have fleas and he is inside most of the
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