Re: CS>leg cramps

[Deborah Gerard]

 Your right Victor...I have added Boron to my regime too...
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 6:10:14 PM EDT, Victor Cozzetto 
 wrote:  
 
 Has anyone mentioned boron yet? This is also critical for the body to properly 
use magnesium, calcium, etc.
I've used this boron tonic: mix 1 teaspoon of borax into 1 quart of water and 
mix well. Use only 1 teaspoon of this base mixture mixed into a glass of water 
each day.
I have an old blog post discussing boron 
here:http://www.otezok.com/boron-arthritis-more/
Victor

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Dianne France  
wrote:

You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium and 
potassium help. There is also a product called release made by dynamite. It’s 
wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up. 



  

CS>leg cramps

[Helena Hughes]

Dear Marshall,

Thank you so very much for your reply.
You¹ve given me a great list to explore.
CBD oil comes in so many shapes, strains, forms and dosages.  Could you let
me know what your wife specifically uses? Brand and strength.
I¹ve never heard of Theraworx, but another prescriber to this list
referenced it.
Thank you for taking the time to email me.
I appreciate
Helena

CS>Re: leg cramps thank you

[Helena Hughes]

Dear PT,
Thank you so much for your reply.  I don¹t take western meds but I so take
supplements.  The ReMag and the Ionic magnesium sound good.  What trace
minerals do you mix it with?
The idea of drinking something benign throughout the day is definitely
appealing.
Also can you please elaborate a little on the cramp bark.  Do you make
into a tea?  How do you make the salve?  A magnesium spray isn¹t working
for me and doesn¹t feel good either.
Appreciate your time and help, truly.
Thank you
Helena

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>> David Bearrow
>> Anagogic Beachbum
>> chip...@verizon.net
>> 608-364-4300
>>
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>>
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>> Thank you,
>> Helena
>>
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Re: CS>leg cramps

[glendajmason]

1 teaspoon of borax=5000mg=550mg of boron at 11% concentration of boron in 
borax, and therefore, 550 mg of boron in 1000ml (1 quart), with a serving size 
of 1 teaspoon at 200 teaspoons per quart - 2.75 mg of boron in a glass of water 
per teaspoon from the concentrate. Not that much, triple it to  3 teaspoon per 
glass of water, and you'll get 7.25 mg per day of boron, GOOD ENOUGH

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Victor Cozzetto 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: CS>leg cramps



Has anyone mentioned boron yet? This is also critical for the body to properly 
use magnesium, calcium, etc.


I've used this boron tonic: mix 1 teaspoon of borax into 1 quart of water and 
mix well. Use only 1 teaspoon of this base mixture mixed into a glass of water 
each day.


I have an old blog post discussing boron here:
http://www.otezok.com/boron-arthritis-more/


Victor



On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Dianne France  
wrote:

You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium and 
potassium help. There is also a product called release made by dynamite. It’s 
wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up. 

Re: CS>leg cramps

[Victor Cozzetto]

Has anyone mentioned boron yet? This is also critical for the body to
properly use magnesium, calcium, etc.

I've used this boron tonic: mix 1 teaspoon of borax into 1 quart of water
and mix well. Use only 1 teaspoon of this base mixture mixed into a glass
of water each day.

I have an old blog post discussing boron here:
http://www.otezok.com/boron-arthritis-more/

Victor

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Dianne France 
wrote:

> You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium
> and potassium help. There is also a product called release made by
> dynamite. It’s wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up.
>
>
>

Re: CS>leg cramps

[Dianne France]

You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium and 
potassium help. There is also a product called release made by dynamite. It’s 
wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:37 PM, RaVen Sequoia 
mailto:aslra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the humorous response, David - 'Limp to the kitchen'... cracked me 
up so hard. :D




On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:16 PM, David Bearrow 
mailto:chip...@verizon.net>> wrote:
Helen,

Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big toe), 
I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a glass  of  a product called calm. 2 
teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium and it gets rid of the cramp within 5 
minutes. I really rely on this product .

Best regards,

David Bearrow
Anagogic Beachbum
chip...@verizon.net
608-364-4300

On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes 
mailto:hhughes...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dear Folks,

Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  not the 
right type, brand? Any advice?
I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
Thank you,
Helena



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[RaVen Sequoia]

Thanks for the humorous response, David - 'Limp to the kitchen'... cracked
me up so hard. :D




On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:16 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:

> Helen,
>
> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big
> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a glass  of  a product called
> calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium and it gets rid of the cramp
> within 5 minutes. I really rely on this product .
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Bearrow
> Anagogic Beachbum
> chip...@verizon.net
> 608-364-4300
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg
> cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe
>  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>
>


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Re: CS>leg cramps

[ew]

Read More http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/custom/1981172/2#ixzz5LXy9UyVh

Potassium in the fruit (Bananas, Grapes, citrus fruits... love 'em all.

The problem with the cramps was only getting worse and worse... till the day I
realized that eating 3 grapes (or more of course) would be followed shortly by
severe cramps. :((( I've had problems with constipation and muscle cramps all
my life. As you will notice, there is a link between those two ;>  And I just 
don't
get around to taking stuff by schedule.  No patience.  So I only grab a bottle
of Magnesium (Doctor's Best High Absorption Magnesium 100% chelated with Albion 
Minerals...
Vegan) as I'm to busy with other stuff till I'm forced too...

With Almond milk, I think it's the calcium.  (Have food intolerance problems 
with Corn, Milk and
Wheat. : All my favorite foods. :(((

.
>From nutrition chart of Silk Almond milk:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/custom/1981172/2

yep. The calcium:

Minerals
Amounts Per Selected Serving

%DV

Calcium 450 mg 45%

Magnesium 16.0mg 4%

Phosphorus 20.0 mg 2%

Potassium..apparently ~

..
https://happy.guide/2014/11/17/calcium-magnesium/

The quote below is from the google search:
Almonds and minerals from a quote from the above site.

"Image result for balance of calcium and magnesium
To add to the problem, magnesium needs to be in balance with calcium. They have 
opposite functions — for example
calcium contracts muscles, magnesium relaxes muscles. The ideal ratio of 
calcium to magnesium is thought to be 1:1 to
2:1 so if you're getting say 800 mg calcium, you'd need 400 – 800 mg 
magnesium.Nov 17, 2014"

Anita  (By the way, my bones are super-strong, but nails are bad unless I keep 
up with iodine (in the form of
Provodine externally applied.  Discovered it works to alleviate pain as well.  
(Bruises, smashed nails, sprained
fingers.. as will as itching)

.

>  Anita
> What do you think is in the almond milk and fruit that would cause the 
> cramping? 
> Thanks in advance,Debbie
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:44:02 PM EDT, ew  
> wrote:
>
>  At one time muscle cramps would involve opposing muscles. Nothing more 
> painful in
> my experience as you have to endure them, you can't pull them out.
>
> I have found that if I indulge myself with fruit, or Almond milk, I will 
> shortly experience
> restless legs, then muscle cramps... and if I keep ignoring them, opposing 
> muscle
> cramps. :(
>
> And I've also come to recognize the energy that precedes restless legs.
> And the sleeplessness that precedes that energy.
>
> There is also a problem with my left hand 'freezing' into a claw to the point
> that I have to grab each finger one-at-a-time and force them to open. This is
> also magnesium related.
>
> And as someone that never gets-around-to taking pills unless forced to
>
> AnitaW
>
>> Helen,
>>
>> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big 
>> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself
>> a
>> glass  of  a product called calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium 
>> and it gets rid of the cramp within 5
>> minutes. I really rely on this product .
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David Bearrow
>> Anagogic Beachbum
>> chip...@verizon.net
>> 608-364-4300
>>
>> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Folks,
>>
>> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg 
>> cramps that wake me up several times a
>> night.
>> I take magnesium but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
>> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I 
>> have an underlying condition of
>> bronchiectasis
>> and sleep is so important for me.
>> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
>> Thank you,
>> Helena
>>
>
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Re: CS>leg cramps

[Deborah Gerard]

 Anita
What do you think is in the almond milk and fruit that would cause the 
cramping? 
Thanks in advance,Debbie
On Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:44:02 PM EDT, ew  
wrote:  
 
 At one time muscle cramps would involve opposing muscles. Nothing more painful 
in
my experience as you have to endure them, you can't pull them out.

I have found that if I indulge myself with fruit, or Almond milk, I will 
shortly experience
restless legs, then muscle cramps... and if I keep ignoring them, opposing 
muscle
cramps. :(

And I've also come to recognize the energy that precedes restless legs.
And the sleeplessness that precedes that energy.

There is also a problem with my left hand 'freezing' into a claw to the point
that I have to grab each finger one-at-a-time and force them to open. This is
also magnesium related.

And as someone that never gets-around-to taking pills unless forced to

AnitaW

> Helen,
>
> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big 
> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a
> glass  of  a product called calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium 
> and it gets rid of the cramp within 5
> minutes. I really rely on this product .
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Bearrow
> Anagogic Beachbum
> chip...@verizon.net
> 608-364-4300
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
> that wake me up several times a night.
> I take magnesium but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis
> and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[RaVen Sequoia]

I find Standard Process
Calcium Lactate which has magnesium in it helps a lot.
Highly recommended by chiropractors...,.
Magnesium works better with calcium in it.

Can buy in Amazon.



On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Helena Hughes  wrote:

>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg
> cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe
>  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[Marshall]

My wife has had problems with nocturnal leg cramps for years.  She has 
them mostly under control now.  She uses the following:


Calcium and Magnesium supplement
potassium supplement
B complex supplement
drinks water before bed
CBD oil
and if they do strike Theraworx.

Marshall


On 7/16/2018 10:08 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi Helena,


It might be an electrolyte imbalance, like PT suggests.

I do legs stretches while prone, stretching my arms above my head and 
pulling my toes up toward my knees, or a full body stretch.  Feels 
great to do these.


Would an Epsom salt bath help with the magnesium?

They are highly advertising a homeopathic cream?, for leg cramps on TV 
but don’ t know the name.  Probably google would tell you.  It starts 
with a T.


Jean


*From:* Helena Hughes >

*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2018 9:31 PM
*Subject:* CS>leg cramps


Dear Folks,

Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is 
leg cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium 
but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I 
have an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so 
important for me.

Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
Thank you,
Hele

Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

[PT Ferrance]

Thanks Ode and Tony.  Not knowing much about electronics, perhaps it is best I 
try to find some to purchase.PT

  From: Ode Coyote 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:33 AM
 Subject: Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT
   
It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.Copper is entirely different than 
silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will never 
have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used and a 
conductivity related "Auto Off"  will not work.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view the 
Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of the 
water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird things]It  
is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to make 
copper.
Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control these 
metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic and may 
alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation may be 
advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]
You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPMOde


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:

Hallo PT, Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires 
special equipment to make pure copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage 
required) However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver 
maker is quite possible: Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods 
for copper rods and complete the process. How to check the ppm or strength? 
Keeping quality? particle size? Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some 
years ago. Dont trust me , go to : https://www.mail-archive.com/ 
silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth 
of info there. :-)) OK, Tony

On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :Subject : CS>colloidal copper 
- OT
Hello,There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the 
body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this list 
made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?Thanks.PT  



   

Re: CS>leg cramps

[PT Ferrance]

Try ReMag or the ionic magnesium I wrote about.  The ReMag has no taste and you 
can mix it and some trace minerals in a bottle of water and drink throughout 
the day... no pills!PT


  From: ew 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>leg cramps
   
At one time muscle cramps would involve opposing muscles. Nothing more painful 
in
my experience as you have to endure them, you can't pull them out.

I have found that if I indulge myself with fruit, or Almond milk, I will 
shortly experience
restless legs, then muscle cramps... and if I keep ignoring them, opposing 
muscle
cramps. :(

And I've also come to recognize the energy that precedes restless legs.
And the sleeplessness that precedes that energy.

There is also a problem with my left hand 'freezing' into a claw to the point
that I have to grab each finger one-at-a-time and force them to open. This is
also magnesium related.

And as someone that never gets-around-to taking pills unless forced to

AnitaW

> Helen,
>
> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big 
> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a
> glass  of  a product called calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium 
> and it gets rid of the cramp within 5
> minutes. I really rely on this product .
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Bearrow
> Anagogic Beachbum
> chip...@verizon.net
> 608-364-4300
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
> that wake me up several times a night.
> I take magnesium but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis
> and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[PT Ferrance]

I forgot to mention, Helen, that depending on what meds you are on you can try 
things like cramp bark.  I take it internally and also make a salve out of it 
and rub it on.  I like it better than mag oil.PT 


  From: Helena Hughes 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:31 PM
 Subject: CS>leg cramps
   

Dear Folks,
Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  not the 
right type, brand? Any advice?I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with 
this right now.  I have an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is 
so important for me.Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.Thank 
you,Helena

   

Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

[Tony Moody]

Thanks Ode, for you practical , hands on knowledge.

OK, 
Tony 



On 17 Jul 2018 at 5:33, Ode Coyote wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.
Copper is entirely different than silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it 
will never have current "runaway"..meaning: Current controls aren't 
being used and a conductivity related "Auto Off" will not work.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them 
TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer 
to view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much 
about 'how strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both 
out of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or 
other weird things]
It is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to 
make copper.
Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to 
control these metals levels, internal consumption of too much 
copper can be toxic and may alter your ability to eliminate 
silver. Selenium supplementation may be advisable. [ But don't 
over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]

You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPM
Ode


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:
Hallo PT,
Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special 
equipment to make pure 
copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage required)
However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker is 
quite possible: 
Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods for copper rods and 
complete the process.
How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size?
Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me , go 
to : 
https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-))
OK, Tony



On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT

Hello,
There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the 
body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this 
list made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
Thanks.
PT

Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

[Ode Coyote]

It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.

Copper is entirely different than silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view
the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of
the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
things]

It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
make copper.
*Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
toxic ]*


*You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPM*


*Ode*


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:

> Hallo PT,
>
> Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special
> equipment to make pure copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage
> required)
>
> However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker
> is quite possible: Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods
> for copper rods and complete the process.
>
> How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size?
>
> Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me ,
> go to : https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
>
> I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-))
>
> OK, Tony
>
> --
>
> On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
> Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT
>
> Hello,
> There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the
> body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this
> list made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>

Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

[Tony Moody]

Hallo PT, 
Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special 
equipment to make pure 
copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage required) 
However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker is 
quite possible: 
Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods for copper rods and 
complete the process. 
How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size? 
Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me , go 
to : 
https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html 
I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-)) 
OK, Tony



On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT

Hello,
There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the body 
and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this list made 
colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
Thanks.
PT