Re: CStooth problems- can EIS help?

2012-04-28 Thread Pat Lawrie
I had a root canaled tooth and the filling on it broke and became painful.  
When I finally got to the dentist  (I waited too long) he put in a temporary 
cap.
Even with anaesthesia that tooth was extremely sensitive. He thought it might 
be  the neighboring wisdom tooth, but I didn't think so. In any event, the next 
day it was still really painful and I thought I was going to have to call him 
and cancel the cap and have  it pulled. But in a moment of lucidity, I decided 
to try my godzilla. I applied the sponges to each cheek for only 20 min.  Pain  
was eliminated and has remained so. Godzila rocks!
Pat
 


 From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: CStooth problems- can EIS help?
   
 
I easily destroyed several bacterial
infections in the roots of my teeth as well as cavitations in  teeth.  I used a
Godzilla… a battery hooked up to two wires with sponges on the ends used
as electrodes.  The DC current kills the bacteria instantly inside the tooth or
root.  You can use as little as 1 ½ volts or up to 6 volts but no higher.  9
volts is dangerous and overkill in any event.  Just a flashlight battery will
do.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info and schematics on
how to make the device… it costs less than $10 and has saved me thousands
in dental bills.  Good luck. 
  
Bob 
  


  
From:martsmai...@aol.com [mailto:martsmai...@aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012
6:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStooth problems-
can EIS help?  
  
   
You did the correct thing.  
  
According to Dr. Mercola  
During a root canal, there is no way to
sterilize your tooth; after the root canal, dangerous bacteria hide out in the
tooth and are unreachable with antibiotics  
· Root-canaled
and filled teeth harbor bacteria that morph into very toxic forms, which then
can migrate to other tissues in your body and cause serious medical conditions,
including diseases of your heart, kidneys, bones, and brain  
· There
is no other medical practice that permits leaving a dead body part inside your
body, because it triggers your immune system to attack  
· If
you have a diseased tooth, or if you’ve already had a root canal, I
highly recommend consulting a biological dentist about have it extracted   
   
In a message dated 4/27/2012 9:19:10 A.M.
Central Daylight Time, smjl...@wavewls.com writes:  
I would choose losing the tooth over a
root canal any day!

 
  
 

Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

2012-02-12 Thread Pat Lawrie
I became sensitive to Sensodyne that I had been using for about a year. Of 
course it started AFTER I just bought a 3-pak!!!
Pat
 


 From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots
  
DH had excrutiatingly sensitive teeth. Dentist recommended this special 
toothpaste for sensitive teeth.  Using it gave him the same pain as sweet 
things.  Studied the contents list, looked up on line - sorbitol is used to 
keep the paste moist.  My mother used to tell me as a kid that they put sugar 
in toothpaste to rot people's teeth, and I didn't believe her. Sixty years 
later I wonder if this is what she meant.
R

On 13/02/2012 2:23 AM, sol wrote:
  I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity.
 sol
 
 
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Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

2012-02-12 Thread Pat Lawrie
You might try oregano oil. 
Pat
 


 From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:23 PM
Subject: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots
  
ew wrote:
 Well, if you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize 
 sensitive teeth... and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper 
 varities) will help take care of current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed 
 nerves.  (Using both the Tea Tree and the Sensodyne), one then the other)
 
  
I can't use tea tree oil at all, is there another essential oil that can do the 
same thing? I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity.
sol


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Re: CSAnother way to heal

2011-12-20 Thread Pat Lawrie
Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked  for it but couldn't find it. When I 
tried checking  in the book, I chose the pain protocol, which was negative 
side down, even tho for the foot  with the problem was positive. This morning I 
just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in worse pain than me 
after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order some more pronto.

Pat
  


 From: gaiac...@gmail.com gaiac...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSAnother way to heal
  
 
If you use the stronger ones you could put it outside your shoe--though you 
must wrap it good enough that it doesn't fall off.  You could get the book out 
and look up the method that is recommended for toes.  It will depend on which 
foot it is on as to whether you use the positive or negative side of the 
magnets. 

The group is here:  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Magnetictherapytoday/ 
Peter belongs to the group and will answer any questions you have about 
magnets and healing with them.   

This 50% off sale is great, though members of the group get 25% off all the 
time with a special code.  So if someone missed the holiday sales there's still 
a way to save some money. 

Samala, 
Renee.  

 



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What is the link to the magnet  group please?  

Re: CSAnother way to heal

2011-12-19 Thread Pat Lawrie
What is the link to the magnet group please? I recently bought the Wellness Kit. After someone mentioned them yesterday, I got mine out and put it on a toe that's been sore like a boil for a month (could hardly walk). Pain was gone in just a few minutes to my utter amazement. Left it on all nite but couldn't wear it with shoes. Was fine all day today. Plan to reapply for tonite.Thank you, Pat   From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com  Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 6:49 PM Subject: Re: CSAnother way to heal  

 
 











You will not regret it. I wouldn't be without our magnets. Members of the magnetic group have reported some remarkable healings while using the magnets. Some I never even thought of--like putting magnets on both sides of thenose toclear a sinus infection! That would work better for me than using a netti pot with CS because I can't stand to run liquid into my nose.

Samala,
Renee






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Thank you for your post regarding the magnets.I have always wanted to work with magnets but there is so much out there it is difficult to know what to get and where to put them..and if they really do work. I am pleased to read of your personal experiences and the fact that the book is such a great help and guides the exact placement. I have purchased the wellness kit this morning and look forward to learning about the world of magnets and the body. Put that together with the wonderful use of CS and there we go











Re: CSThank you...

2011-05-12 Thread Pat Lawrie
How does one know if their arteries are clear or not? I took several bottles of 
serrapeptase and nattokinase, but I didn't see or feel anything different 
before 
or after. How would you know without getting expensive and invasive dye studies?

Pat





From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 3:34:57 PM
Subject: Re: CSThank you...

M. G. Devour wrote:
 
 Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of 
this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and 
though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all.
  
Mike,
I have a good friend with completely clear arteries, who says it is due to 
serrapeptase and nattokinase she takes. Also she eats very few PUFAs and does 
eat good fats, coconut oil and butter.
sol


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Re: CSmuscle cramps

2011-02-07 Thread Pat Lawrie
Did not work for me. 
Pat




From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 1:58:42 PM
Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps


If it happens at night I would suggest throwing a couple of bars of soap into 
your bed.  No need to unwrap but it must be soap and not a detergent bar.

I know it sounds crazy but it does work for many.
PT





From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:11:31 AM
Subject: CSmuscle cramps

Lately whenever I try to exercise I get tons of muscle cramps in the subsequent 
days.  When I use a product called First Endurance EFS (Electrolyte Fuel 
System) 
it helps a lot.  But it's very expensive.

Does anyone have any other suggestions for replacing electrolytes on a budget?

-- 
Alan Jones

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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
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Re: CSmuscle cramps

2011-02-07 Thread Pat Lawrie
AND me . Placebos have never worked on me like they do with many. Oh 
that power of suggestion.
Nothing else worked either, ie. mag oil on feet and calves or xtra potassium. 
But lately, I've done nothing and haven't had any cramps for a few months now, 
go figure. I had them at nite and when I was doing Pilates. Stopped Pilates due 
to increasing back pain.
Pat




From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:25:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps


Well wouldn't you just know it?  Had to be me.  :-(
MA





From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:14:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps


You are the first 2 I have come across for whom it did not work.  Ah, well! 
PT





From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 7:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps


Didn't work for me either.
MA





From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com


Did not work for me. 
Pat




From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net


If it happens at night I would suggest throwing a couple of bars of soap into 
your bed.  No need to unwrap but it must be soap and not a detergent bar.

I know it sounds crazy but it does work for many.
PT





From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:11:31 AM
Subject: CSmuscle cramps

Lately whenever I try to exercise I get tons of muscle cramps in the subsequent 
days.  When I use a product called First Endurance EFS (Electrolyte Fuel 
System) 
it helps a lot.  But it's very expensive.

Does anyone have any other suggestions for replacing electrolytes on a budget?

-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


  

Re: CSarthritic pain

2010-06-14 Thread Pat Lawrie
When I got my Mag oil, already made, I put it on my face. And oh yeah, did it 
burn and face turned beet red.
Washed it off immediately. Since then have been using it on feet and ankles 
morning and nite. Still get leg cramps tho. Will buy from the source below and 
also look for an internal pill. I must be really deficient, or it's the 
potassium or.???
Pat




From: mhale mchl.h...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 5:51:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


Are you experiencing any burning sensations or ?
I just ordered 5lb of Nigari from Natural Import
mike




From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 3:33:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain

What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup waterBut I 
ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of flakes. You will know 
when too many flakes have been added because they won't dissolve. No big deal. 
Just decant the good liquid into another container and leave the flakes behind 
for your next batch

I am using my home made magnesium oil...

Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes added to 
it as possible

garrick


  

Re: Re: CSarthritic pain

2010-06-14 Thread Pat Lawrie
Glad you said this, cuz Dove is the one I use for bathing and intended to use 
in the bed.
Anxious to try this and see if it works for me as well.
Pat





From: kathy.she...@verizon.net kathy.she...@verizon.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:42:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re: CSarthritic pain



My family has used this with success for restless legs.  I have heard any soap 
except Dove and Dial is OK .
Kathy





Jun 14, 2010 11:34:35 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

Any bar soap? 


samala,
Renee
www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt 
Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 

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Re: CShelp for clogged arteries

2010-03-19 Thread Pat Lawrie
There is a site www.serrapeptase.info which has a lot of info. I bought 
serrapeptase from them and noticed myself taking in deep breaths within just a 
few days. I didn't even know I wasn't breathing deeply till then. So I recently 
just added their Blockbuster All Clear and take it with Curcumin.
Pat





From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 10:40:47 AM
Subject: Re: CS help for clogged arteries

Serrapeptase has shown itself to be very good at completely clearing arteries. 
My wife's blood pressure went down with blood pressure from 150/100 to 115/65 
without taking medicine blood pressure medicine after only one month of taking 
it. I believe that the heart surgeons would have to find another job if 
everyone would try that before surgery.

Caution, to NOT take too much at once. If you have blocked arteries it needs to 
be removed slowly, if you take too much, chunks can break off and cause a 
stroke. But this is not a problem, it will clear vessels usually within a month 
or two.

We initially took 2 capsules of SerraGold 100,000 IU a day, And once our blood 
pressure was normal and all the blockage gone (in about a month), we shitched 
to Drs 40.000 Best one a day for maintenance.

Marshall

Kirsteen Wright wrote:
 Hi can anyone offer any suggestions or pointers to the archives please. A 
 friend of mine (male 60) has recently had a heart attack. The angiogram 
 showed one artery completely blocked and the others severely constricted. He 
 will probably have a quadruple bypass very soon. He has never smoked, 
 exercises regularly and eats a vegan diet.
 
 He is very open to adding in supplements, complimentary therapies and a 
 natural approach to the problem. However, surfing the web for advice he feels 
 bombarded with sites all promising miracle cures if he just pays £ XXX for 
 whatever they're selling.
 
 I know there's some really knowledgeable people here. What would you suggest 
 he tries. Any advice gratefully received.
 
 Thanks
 Kirsteen


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Re: CSOT- CAN-C and Bright-eyes

2010-03-18 Thread Pat Lawrie
After all I read about CanC, I bought the 6pak. After the first bottle of 
putting drops in 2-3 times a day, I noticed NO change. I stopped it and plan to 
start again (pretty expensive for no results), but now am feeling less hopeful.
Pat





From: sun sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 12:01:47 AM
Subject: Re: CS OT-CAN-C and Bright-eyes

Tankersley larry wrote:
 Hey Folks;
 Has anyone had experience using CAN-C or Bright-eyes for cataracts? Or other 
 modalities?
 I've been dealing with a retinal detachment [twice now] since Dec. and they 
 inject the gas bubble causes a rapid increase in the cataract. I'd really 
 like to skip the operation. TIA
 Larry Tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA
Larry,
I have been using either Bright Eyes or CAN-C for about a year now (with a few 
gaps): CAN-C we are just finishing up 3 boxes of (6 bottles). I had great hopes 
for it, but have to say at my last eye exam just a few weeks ago the cataracts 
were still present, and the one in the left eye may have been just a tad worse 
(or not). The only good news is there has been no significant INCREASE in the 
cataract in either eye, Which may be due to the CAN-C and Bright Eyes, or may 
be due to the CS / MSM / DMSO eye drops I also use at times ( I stopped for 
over a month after a vitreous detachment in the left eye.
I also would really like to skip cataract surgery, and am very lucky the 
vitreous detachment (which seems to have been total) did not cause a retinal 
tear or detachment. In my case the left eye Suffered an inflammation after the 
vitreous detachment, Which is now apparently gone, but I have months yet to 
think about cataract surgery, as it can not be done until it is certain the 
inflammation is entirely gone. And I'm left with a large obtrusive floater 
floater and a filmy, and the eye surgeon says cataract surgery may enable me to 
see the floaters even better, Which Is Not a Desirable thing, in my own 
opinion, LOL.
I too want to put surgery off for the rest of my life ideally and that desire 
is even stronger since the vitreous detachment and the subsequent inflammation. 
But I have not succeeded in getting rid of the cataracts after a year of trying 
(though I seemed to be having success for the first couple of months of drops).
sun
.


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Re: CSVitamin D

2010-03-12 Thread Pat Lawrie
What is the cost of the Vit D test in the US? I live in Mexico and was going to 
get the test
till they told me it would cost like $260 dollars, so didn't get it.

Pat





From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver silver-list@eskimo.com list
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 9:50:29 PM
Subject: CS Vitamin D

I was disappointed today to find out that my 25-hydroxy vitamin D test 
showed my vitamin D level to be only 25. I was sure it would be so high that I 
almost did not request one. Since last fall I've been taking at 
D3 least 1.000 units plus the D3 in my multivitamin and calcium pills. 
When the day is warm enough, I go out with a jacket and shorts to get 
some sun. It's been a very cold winter for here, though. 

I'd gotten my level up two years ago from 14 in February to a near perfect 55 
in the summer by taking 2.000 units D3 and then lying in the sun 20 minutes two 
or three times a week as soon as weather allowed.

Have any of you had the vitamin D blood test?'ve Heard that in the 
north in the winter, even if you lie naked outside at noon, you can not 
get any vitamin D Because of the angle of the sun. (Plus you'd be a 
popsicle!)

Pat



      


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Re: CSImportant question about reducing atherosclerosis

2010-01-25 Thread Pat Lawrie
Gordon, you might want to check out www.serrapeptase.org for reducing plaque. I 
just recently started
taking it for just that purpose. It is an enzyme and does a LOT of other stuff 
too.
Pat




From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:48:35 PM
Subject: Re: CS Important question about Reducing atherosclerosis

When Linus Pauling was 90 years old, I was taking 18 grams of Vit C daily. 
Hmmmnnn. Urination In a test, he only urinated off 15%. ... The rest waswa 
Hmmmnnn going to work ...

John


On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote:

Read: Practicing Medicine Without a LicenseOwen Fonrow 

Linus Pauling. Minimum 3 GRAMS C per day keeps the arterial plaque away. 


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

Thanks for this link. I printed the book and read it. I think very highly of 
it. 





On Friday, Jan 1, 2010, at 11:18 Asia / Tokyo, Dan Hall wrote:


Read this e-book

http://jkant2001.tripod.com/EAT_TO_LIVE.pdf

You would have to change your diet ...

Dan

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:02 PM, G Baldwin baldwin6...@comcast.net Wrote:

List members,

I hope someone can help me. I have moderate blockage in carotid artery.
Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction is very distracting and
seems to get louder with time. Can anyone suggest a protocol that I could
try to reduce the build-up in the arteries? I am Concerned about a stroke.
Any helpful suggestions will be very greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Gordon


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Re: CSdecongestant alternatives?

2010-01-17 Thread Pat Lawrie
It is called a Netti Pot.

Pat





From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 2:25:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSdecongestant alternatives?



I recommend taking cayenne pepper.   For an immediate help, take about 1/4 tsp 
in a glass of warm water and drink it down.  Myself, I take it in capsule 
form.   It helps with a great deal of stuff.  You can also take a capsaicin 
cream such as Capsaicin HP and dab just a little bit on your forehead, 
cheekbones and nose right over your sinuses.  This helps a lot as well.   

And for the diehard. get a bottle of sinusblaster.   It's saline solution 
with a minute amount of capsaicin in it and when you squirt it up there, it 
briefly feels like someone has rammed a 6 inch red hot spike up there. but 
you talk about resolving cluster or sinus headaches instantly!  Wow!    (If 
you're a masochist, just have someone pepper spray you in the face that 
works too, but I don't recommend it!)

Some people also use a salt solution rinse for their sinuses pour it in one 
nostril and it comes out the other.   I'm told by folks that this is very 
effective.  There are special devices you can buy at the health food store to 
do this.   I forget what they're called.

Steve G.




--- On Sun, 1/17/10, S. Brown lizrbe...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: S. Brown lizrbe...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSdecongestant alternatives?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:33 AM


I've had an ongoing sinus infection and decongestants make my resting heart 
rate close to 100. Is there something else I can use to help clear stopped 
up ears especially, not to mention sinuses? I take CS orally and  can actually 
breathe thanks to a CS and saline wash. Thanks for any suggestions.  --Irene

 



  

Re: CSHelp needed

2009-12-02 Thread Pat Lawrie
Barbara,
You can try and check out the www.serrapeptase.info website. I have just been 
reading many testimonials about
just this thing. I just bought it to help clean out any placque I might have. 
But it does a whole LOT more stuff.
They recommend taking a couple of other things as well.

Pat





From: Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:16:51 PM
Subject: CS Help needed


Hi Everyone,
 
I have a friend with pulmonary arterial Hypertention. This is not COPD. 
Actually, she's got constriction of arteries between heart and lungs. Doctors 
do not know much about it, do not know how to treat it, it is rare and it may 
be congenital in her. Even as a child she was often out of breath. 
 
Would you guys have any thoughts for her? Cayenne? 
 
Barbara



  

Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma

2009-05-17 Thread Pat Lawrie
I also took off a basal cell with just regular iodine and DMSO. After day 1 I 
noticed a marked difference. Because it stains, I covered it with a soaked 
cotton piece and duct tape. Think I only applied it sporadically about 5 or 6 
times because the tape irritated my skin and it's in a difficult location on my 
shoulder for me to reach. But it really took it away. Has left a red mark so 
plan to do it again a couple more times. My concoction was about 1/3 DMSO to 
the iodine. I did not measure.
 
Pat

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From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 6:38 AM



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I think you may be right about the cell phone connection. You might want to 
combine the iodine with some DSMO. I have used vitamin C mixed with water on 
Basal and it did work for me. You have to apply it several times a day for a 
few days. After a while it burns and a scab forms.  I don't know if it works 
for squamous.
Paula
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Dianne France 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: CSsquamous cell carcinoma

Paula
 
I have some Lugol's Iodine so I will ask my Mom if she would use it.  I don't 
think that would be painful.  Mom is concerned since my Dad had the same thing 
happen to him but it had progressed and it took quite a bit of his ear.  My dad 
died of a skin cancer shortly after healing from the ear.
 
My sister in law and I were discussing the cancer in the ears and my brother 
has also got a spot looking suspicious in his.  There are other people with 
same we know about.  I think these cell phones and portable phones in the homes 
possibly play a roll.  
 
Thank you again for the information.
 
Dianne
 


From: p...@zoomnet.net
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Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:14:42 -0400



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Hi Diane,
The website Jonathan mentioned is really interesting. The only deterrent to 
using the salve is that it appears to be fairly painful. I have read that skin 
cancers can be removed by applying 7% Lugol's Iodine 10 to 20 times a day. They 
do sell it at that website. I found a page to some other info I will post. Good 
luck for your mom!
Paula

- Original Message - 
From: Dianne France 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: CSsquamous cell carcinoma

Paula
 
My Mother was just diagnosed with the same cancer, it is inside her ear.  She 
is 84 yrs old.
I will be checking the web ite Jonathan sent also.
 
Dianne
 
 From: p...@zoomnet.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma
 Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:31:00 -0400
 
 Thanks Jonathan. I will,
 Paula
 
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 From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:49 AM
 Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma
 
 
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Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?

2009-04-06 Thread Pat Lawrie
I just bought some MSM at a tack store intended for MY use. It says on the 
label there are no fillers. Then when I got home and read further it says, 
quote:
WARNING:
For animal use only.
Keep out of reach of other animals and children. In case of accidental 
overdose, contact a health professional immediately.
This product should not be given to animals intended for human consumption.
 
So with THAT warning I never took it. What the heck else could be in it so 
harmful?
 
Pat

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From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:49 AM



DMSO is The Same as MSM only missing an atom, making it a liquid, If you took 
DMSO and spread it on a plate and left it in the sun for a few days it would 
turn to white powder, Presto (MSM)  Thats how they discovered it.
Its a by-product of wood pulp The western lumber areas are a huge source for 
MSM-DMSO.

Re: Food Grade DMSO?  Try to get Lingual (mfg.) most of the rest is from China 
now-days. I told you to buy it in a Tack Store, to save you money.

You can it the same quality stuff in an on line store, with a fancy name for 
much more money. If your looking for nice labels, and fancy bottles, you go guy.

If you want to Save money, go to a pet store that sells Horse feed.
Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com  
Dewey, AZ.


--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:

 From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
 Subject: CSDMSO, Human or Horse ?
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:04 AM
 
  Where do you purchase  human DMSO?
 
  ( This must reference,  Food Grade )
 
 
   If it is good enough,
         For a Million Dollar Horse,
 
 It is good enough
       for a
            Half Million
 dollar Human !
 
 Many people take better care of their horses,
 Nutrition, scientific feeding, and everything else,
 
 Than they do for their own body.
 
 Wayne
 
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Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?

2009-04-06 Thread Pat Lawrie
No, I don't. It's just that I worry about stuff coming out of China. And it 
doesn't say where it comes from on the label. Only that it's a Farnam product 
so how does one find out where it comes from.
 
Pat

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From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:56 AM


Morning Pat,

At 08:58 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote:
 So with THAT warning I never took it. What the heck else could be in it so 
 harmful?
 

What Genius organization do you think is
responsible for the bogus label ?

You must believe, everything you read.

Wayne

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Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?

2009-04-06 Thread Pat Lawrie
That's what bothered me--that I don't know where it comes from as it does 
not say on the label.
 
Pat

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From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:15 AM



For your information,Pat,,, it is a warning  on all the Great Horse products.  
Depending on Manufacture, USA or China, I would choose USA.
MSM  DMSO are both very good for sore muscles, and Joints, I take MSM 3,000 mg 
a day for arthritis. I have for 12 years. 

DMSO,  I rub it on my extra sore areas , you can get it in a roll on 
applicator. I play golf 3 times a week, My Handicap is 20. I do ok.
Many sports nuts use MSM  DMSO.  

As for the warning labels. Well its called Cover your ass The mgf, must put a 
disclaimer on everything, look at aspirin, it has a warning too...
Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ.


--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade  ?
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:58 AM
 I
 just bought some MSM at a tack store intended for MY use. It
 says on the label there are no fillers. Then when I got home
 and read further it says, quote:
 WARNING:
 For animal use only.
 Keep out of reach of other animals and children. In
 case of accidental overdose, contact a health professional
 immediately.
 This product should not be given to animals intended
 for human consumption.
  
 So with THAT warning I never took it. What the heck
 else could be in it so harmful?
  
 Pat
 
 --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tel Tofflemire
 telt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:49 AM
 
 
 
 DMSO is The Same as MSM only missing an atom, making it a
 liquid, If you took DMSO and spread it on a plate and left
 it in the sun for a few days it would turn to white powder,
 Presto (MSM)  Thats how they discovered it.
 Its a by-product of wood pulp The western lumber areas are
 a huge source for MSM-DMSO.
 
 Re: Food Grade DMSO?  Try to get Lingual (mfg.) most
 of the rest is from China now-days. I told you to buy it in
 a Tack Store, to save you money.
 
 You can it the same quality stuff in an on line store, with
 a fancy name for much more money. If your looking for nice
 labels, and fancy bottles, you go guy.
 
 If you want to Save money, go to a pet store that sells
 Horse feed.
 Tel Tofflemire
 http://www.quailwoodherbal.com 
 
 Dewey, AZ.
 
 
 --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
  Subject: CSDMSO, Human or Horse ?
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:04 AM
  
   Where do you purchase  human DMSO?
  
   ( This must reference,  Food
 Grade )
  
  
    If it is good enough,
          For a Million Dollar
 Horse,
  
  It is good enough
        for a
             Half
 Million
  dollar Human
  !
  
  Many people take better care of their horses,
  Nutrition, scientific feeding, and everything else,
  
  Than they do for their own body.
  
  Wayne
  
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Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?

2009-04-06 Thread Pat Lawrie
Then how do I look it up?
Pat

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:


From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:35 AM


At 10:12 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote:
 That's what bothered me--that I don't know where it comes from as it does 
 not say on the label.

If there is a Barcode label,
that will tell you the country of origin.

Can't tell you from memory,  I wish I could.


Wayne

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Re: CSBar Codes for China, and others

2009-04-06 Thread Pat Lawrie
Wonder how reliable even THIS is, since my first 3 digits are 
866.H
 
Pat

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From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
Subject: CSBar Codes for China, and others
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:50 AM



The whole world is afraid of China-made black hearted goods.
Can you differentiate which one is made in Taiwan or China ?
If the first 3 digits of the barcode are
  690 , 691 ,   or 692 , the product is MADE IN CHINA . . .
   471 is Made in Taiwan .
This is our right to know, but the government and related 
departments never educate the public, therefore we have to RESCUE ourselves.
Nowadays,  Chinese businessmen know that consumers do not prefer 
products MADE IN CHINA , so they don't state from which  country 
it is made.
However, you may now refer to the barcode; remember, if the first 3 
digits are:
690-692 then it is MADE IN CHINA .
00 - 09 USA  CANADA
30 - 37 FRANCE
40 - 44 GERMANY
49 - JAPAN
50 -  UK

               BUY AMERICAN!


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Re: CStooth extraction regrets

2009-03-23 Thread Pat Lawrie
About a year and a half ago I went thru this with a molar. I did not use DMSO, 
but did use CS, H202, oil pulling, and godzilla. The godzilla would stop it, 
but only for a day or so and then it erupted like a volcano. This went on for 
several days. All in all spent a few months trying to keep it at bay but 
finally gave up and had a root canal. Then it spread to the tooth next to it 
and had another root canal. But for the last 6 months or so, I feel something 
way deep in the first root canal, like maybe it's now in the bone. Have been 
pondering what to do about it. Do not really want an extraction, but am feeling 
that whatever is in there has also affected other areas of my body. Just don't 
know what to do.
 
Pat

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From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Subject: Re: CStooth extraction regrets
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:53 PM


zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
 *I had a bad abscess on one of my teeth and got it cleared up using hydrogen 
 per.  EIS with DMSO added. Went to the dentist and my choices were 
 extraction or root canal.  *
 *  I have had one reoccurrence of the abscess but have been able to clear it 
 up with the H.P. -EIS  DMSO. so I haven't had a chance to try the Godzilla.
 *
You might have even faster more complete results if you used EIS with H202, or 
EIS with DMSO at different times. Mixing H202 and DMSO turns the DMSO into MSM, 
so you don't get the silver into the tissues. MSM can penetrate body tissues a 
little bit itself, but cannot transport silver or other substances with it.
sol



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Re: CSfood prep with cs

2008-06-08 Thread Pat Lawrie
And I just saw recently on tv how they were saying people were just wasting 
their money on bottled water---that tap water was just fine. UGH!!!
nbsp;
Pat

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Jonathan B. Britten lt;jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jpgt; 
wrote:

From: Jonathan B. Britten lt;jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jpgt;
Subject: Re: CSgt;food prep with cs
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 7:53 AM

A recent issue of Harpers Magazine contains one of the most remarkable 
articles I've ever had the displeasure of reading.  If you live in NYC 
and drink the water, you might not want to  read it.The stuff is 
basically recycled sewage.



On Tuesday, Jun 3, 2008, at 08:50 Asia/Tokyo, Jeff Shepler wrote:

gt;  Tap water contains much more than minerals. It's disgusting what is 
gt; in it.
gt;


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Re: CSChemtrails in mainstream news

2008-01-09 Thread Pat Lawrie


Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com wrote:Would really like to know what they are 
spraying
because they are all over Toledo Bend Lake where I am
at. I went to the store in La. and saw them
everywhere. I live on the Tx. side. Leslie
--- Carol Ann wrote:
  

I saw them here today where I live near Guadalajara, Mexico.
   
  Pat

   
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Re: CSThe Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?

2007-12-20 Thread Pat Lawrie
  This was just discussed on the Regis Show a bit ago. Gelman, the producer, 
uses CS a bit he said. He downplayed it when asked what for and said it's an 
alternative thing for colds and such, an antiviral. They asked if the blueness 
would go away and he said he didn't know.
   
  This will be picked up by all media now and surely will make a stain upon 
its use as people will be scared of using it.
   
  Pat


   
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Re: CSArthritis is all gone!!

2007-08-31 Thread Pat Lawrie
What type of arthritis are did you have? There are many kinds..
   
  Pat

Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
  Marshalee Hallett wrote:
 Dear Friends,
 I just wanted to tell you that, thanks to a fellow on this list who 
 told me about CMO, my arthritis is now gone. I have absolutely no 
 pain, even though I still have the nodes on both small fingers. None 
 of the other fingers are affected, and all my joints, even the knees 
 and hips, no longer bother me!
That's fantastic. Since it had cured my arthritis several years ago, I 
was wondering if it would help anyone else here. So that means that we 
have at least 2 cases of arthritis cured by CMO on this list now. 
Great! Maybe some others who might benefit will give it a try now. I 
am so happy for you Marshalee.

Marshall



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Re: CSArthritis is all gone!!

2007-08-31 Thread Pat Lawrie
Oops, I typed this too fast as doorbell rang. I also wanted to congratulate you 
both for getting rid of a painful problem, no matter which type of arthritis it 
was.
   
  Pat

Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:
What type of arthritis are did you have? There are many kinds..
   
  Pat

Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
  Marshalee Hallett wrote:
 Dear Friends,
 I just wanted to tell you that, thanks to a fellow on this list who 
 told me about CMO, my arthritis is now gone. I have absolutely no 
 pain, even though I still have the nodes on both small fingers. None 
 of the other fingers are affected, and all my joints, even the knees 
 and hips, no longer bother me!
That's fantastic. Since it had cured my arthritis several years ago, I 
was wondering if it would help anyone else here. So that means that we 
have at least 2 cases of arthritis cured by CMO on this list now. 
Great! Maybe some others who might benefit will give it a try now. I 
am so happy for you Marshalee.

Marshall



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Re: CSRe: Brain Injuries

2007-07-11 Thread Pat Lawrie
Frankie,
  I am so sorry this has happened to your son. But please remember there is 
always HOPE. I just saw an interview with Bob Woodward, the journalist, who was 
involved in a roadside bombing in Iraq. He was hit by schrapnel in the head. 
His injury was so severe that they took off a big chunk of skull bone because 
of the swelling. He was in a coma for some time. They didn't know if he would 
survive or not, but he has, and is almost back to normal. Do not lose hope.
   
  Pat

Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
   Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries? My 21 year 
 old son was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of 
 Saturday morning and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life 
 support. I don't know whether to pray for his death or his life 
 because I don't know the quality of life expected - nobody knows. If 
 anyone has any information, please share it. Thank you.
 Frankie 

DMSO applied liberally to the brain stem and spinal column has been 
known to totally prevent brain damage from trauma, and things like 
strokes - but it must be done ASAP HURRY!!!


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Re: CSBrain Injuries

2007-07-11 Thread Pat Lawrie
I do not believe they removed the brain, but cut out a large part of the 
cranium to allow room for the brain swelling. Saw that in a recent interview 
with him.
  Pat

ch...@tx.rr.com wrote:
  Hi, Frankie,
  An Anchor with ABC news was hit by a roadside bomb some months ago and 
received a brain injury.  One of the key things that saved him was removing the 
brain from inside the head.  Since the brain needs room to swell, if it doesn't 
get it, then there will be permanent brain injury.  I too will pray for your 
son and family. 
  God Bless,
  Cindy
  p.s. You might want to print pertinent pages to give to your son's doctor.  
One comment his wife said was that if he had received an injury like this in 
the US the doctors here wouldn't have known how to treat this (by removing the 
brain to give it room to swell).
  http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WoodruffReports/story?id=2900192page=1
   


 



 
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RE: CSRe: Digestion System Problems

2007-06-23 Thread Pat Lawrie
Ruth,
  Have you ever done any colonics by a professional? I had severe constipation 
in my 20's, not evacuating for 7-10 days at a time, inspite of drinking bottles 
of prune juice and boxes of bran, taking thyroid, etc. It went on for about 10 
years. When I finally discovered colon therapy, I must have done in the 
neighborhood of 30-40 sessions over a period of time and ever since then (30 
yrs) have been quite normal. I saw quite surprising stuff come out of me.
  Just my experience.
   
  Pat

jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
  Ruth,

I am just coming in on your emails so I hope I’m not repeating someone else’
s advice. Do you live near a health food store where you can buy organic
plain yogurt that has probiotics in it? It will help with gas and cramping
and you can mix it with fresh fruit in between meals. Or you can make some
yogurt with regular milk, preferably organic, if you have access to a gas
oven.

I think someone else just suggested probiotics in capsules. They sell all
kinds at the health food store or online.

Apple juice is good and drink lots of clean water.

Can you tolerate adding uncooked olive oil or sesame oil on your veggies,
brown rice or whole wheat pasta to lubricate your intestines naturally?

Chop a little ginger and cook with your animal protein or veggies. It will
help with stomach problems and gas. Garlic would be good too, preferably a
little uncooked with veggies.

Do you add sea salt to your meals? You may need a little if you get
dehydrated from an over active bowel.

Have you had your thyroid tested to make sure you’re not hypothyroid? There
is a test you can do yourself by putting a thermometer inside your armpit
before getting out of bed in the morning. Someone on the list may know the
approximate range of body temperature for low thyroid. I’m sure it’s below
98. Thyroid meds can increase your metabolism and change your bowel habits.
There are natural thyroid prescriptions like Armour.

Before you sleep laying on your back, rub your abdomen from the navel
outward in circular motion clockwise.

Besides prunes, dates are really good for constipation. Peanut butter is
helpful on toast or celery. You should be eating multigrain breads and
peanut butter with no additives except salt.

Strawberry rhubarb pie is good if you want to stay away from taking herbs.
God bless you, Jess


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From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: Digestion System Problems


Hi, Libertytrek, Treblclef, I am planning to work with this Dr. for awhile
yet. I have bi weekly consultations with him via phone. He doesn't use
e-mail, but I call in with questions and progress reports or lack of it.
His nurse alerts him and he calls me back. There is no charge for this
service. Trouble is he is very busy, does these consultations between doing
scheduled surgical procedures. I plan to write him a letter about some of
my concerns, for instance, he would like me to use Citrucel which is his
fiber of choice. I object because of the sugar in the orange can and the
additives in the blue can. I think there is another kind now that is a
clear stuff. He is, of course, totally unacquainted with such things as
Bentonite Clay withpsyllium, etc. My son has given me a can of Fiberzon
that he recommends. It works for him and for my second son as well,
however, there is such a bewildering mixture of herbs listed that I am leery
of it. Also John says it produces an urge that you have to attend to
immediately if not sooner. I do eat a diet that consists prinicipally of
fruits and vegetables, chicken, turkey, beef , fish . There are so many
foods that react against the pain under my right ribcage (center) . or
else against the lower right corner of my abdomen, probably the ileocecal
region. What works for the one area seems to work against the other. None
of the doctors are promising that all my pain will be gone as a aresult of
this surgery, but it is hoped that if I no longer have to have sessions of
straining or else too many stools ( often require straining, too, and my
overlong bowel getting filled up and causing pressure. Think gas builds up
in there, too. Transit time is 7-8 days mouth to rectum. Ten years ago it
was 5 days. At present I will soon be 79 and will be living in my 80th year.
This surgeon is reluctant to do this surgery because of my age, and also,
presently I am underweight ., though gaining a little this week. Thanks for
your concern. I will suggest the program you have listed. Ruth
.
From Ruth Strackbein


From: treblcl...@aol.com
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Subject: Re: CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:52:19 EDT


Can you explain how being bound to ozone would not be good?
I'm unfamiliar with this.

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Re: CSPWT testers - Ode

2007-06-15 Thread Pat Lawrie
Is the calibration solution a must have for the proper readout on the PWT 
meter?
   
  Pat

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
  

That's what TDS meters are made for.
Metering CS is a mis-application, so the readout has to be approximately 
doubled to get a ballpark idea of PPM in silver water as opposed to salt 
and hard water.

An EC or conductivity meter is a far better meter for CS and can be read 
straight up numbers in uS as PPM in silver water.

Google:
Hanna HI 98308 PWT [pure water tester] or HM Digital COM-100

EC meters can sometimes be found on ebay.
For instance:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Digital-Conductivity-EC-Nutrient-Meter-us-cm-NEW_W0QQitemZ280123889307QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20766QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

EUR 19.99

ode


At 12:33 PM 6/15/2007 +0100, you wrote:

Hi all, I've been Googling tds meters and only seem to be able to find ones
for either acquarians or plumbing! Anyone any ideas for buying one in the
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Re: CSpericoronitis

2007-06-15 Thread Pat Lawrie
I think I have something similar to Hanneke and have been battling with long 
rinses of CS/DMSO, H202/DMSO, Clark Zapper, tried placing slice of garlic 2X, 
but it burned. Still have pain and cannot chew on that side. Been going on so 
long that I now have clicking of TMJ on opposite side. I think this was 
actually caused by the dentist after an onlay with spillover cement trapping 
food btwn teeth for one week. No pain in tooth before that occurred. Think 
those little bugs just traveled down side of tooth to the bone. I am about to 
give in to the prescribed amoxicillin tonite. UGH!!! Been trying to hold out 
till a friend came back from out of the country with her Rife Machine, but 
still not here. Cannot find oil of oregano or some of those other things as I 
live in Mexico.
   
  Pat
   
  

Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
  And what is wrong with waiting the 3 days until the results from the 
culture and sensitivity test come back?

I just hate it when you get an rx and it is blind like that- sometimes 
it is necessary (like when an appendix ruptures) but usually not that 
serious.

I hope you get the results you are looking for.

kathryn
On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Hanneke wrote:

 I would like to thank all those who have written to me off list as 
 well as the responses on the list for all the suggestions for possible 
 ways of dealing with this infection.

 I understand from some of the responses that I might not have been 
 clear re the wisdom tooth; it has not erupted, still totally below the 
 gum-line and,according to both the dentist and  the oral surgeon,  
 unlikely to erupt ever.  Surgery is only  way to remove it, and that 
 seems to be the tricky part  due to the way it is lodged in jaw.   

 My current  protocol includes  oil-pulling,  swishing with CS/DMSO 
 (70/30),  8oz-16oz of CS,  plenty of vit C:  up to tablespoon of 
 ascorbic acid and in the form of lemon juice with  cayenne pepper , 
 garlic,  the use of the Godzilla, and Sota pulser. 
 In the process of getting a deep pocket water pik.
 I wished I could  tell you all it's feeling better already  but I 
 will persevere until  it's fixed.

 Earlier this week  I went to see a medical doctor (to get another 
 opinion ).  Although overdue, at last A swab was taken and I will hear 
 the results tomorrow, so hopefully I might at last learn what type of 
 infection I am dealing with. 

  Funny, this doctor knows I don't take  drugs as a rule.. she 
 prescribed 2 (!!)  different  antibiotics (metrogyl 200) and  
 Cephalexin 500mg(Ialex), to be taken simultaneously, and wants to have 
 me on another 2 weeks of this   after I finish this course  ???  
 Asking why she thought  to have 2 at same time, she reasoned that  if 
 one wouldn't  kill it, the other might.oh,  and if the results 
 show I need another one,  we just  have to swap to another type of 
 antibiotics. 
 As a good patient ;-) I took  the prescription home (you got to do 
 something to keep the communication lines open with those who have the 
 tools for diagnostics).

 Once again, thank you all

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Re: CSliver to sol

2007-05-31 Thread Pat Lawrie
How much is 5 grams in terms of teaspoons?
  Pat

Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:
  I take 5 grams of powdered MSM daily for pain.  Works for me.  

  On 5/31/07, zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com wrote:   Just wondering what type 
of liver troubles you have. I just got a report that I have a  lesion on my 
liver. I have to have further testing. I have had liver pain for years. Do you 
think that advil is as harmful as tylenol? I dont know whether to take tylenol 
or advil for pain when i have it. I think advil is hard on kidneys and tylenol 
on the liver. I have problems with both so pain meds are a challange for me.
 
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Re: CSLate stage last-ditch cancer therapy

2007-05-16 Thread Pat Lawrie
I would suggest researching the Budwig Diet and join the 
flaxseedo...@yahoogroups.com and start by reading the Files section. This diet 
has a high success rate in bringing back the immune system. Had I known of this 
before my sister died of lung cancer, she might still be alive today.
  Pat

Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
  I am inquiring on behalf of a person near to death. Has anyone on 
this list seen any remarkable recoveries or spontaneous remissions with 
use of large quantities of EIS? I am familiar with R.0. Becker's 
amazing research, but that did not include cancer treatment or internal 
consumption of EIS.

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Re: CSMange

2007-05-11 Thread Pat Lawrie
Good grief , garlic? That certainly sounds simple, available and doable here in 
Mexico. Think I'll tell them to give that a try.
   
  Thanks, Pat

Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:
  I cured a stray dog of horrible mange.  No hair left at all, bleeding, etc.  
I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender with DW.  
Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon) and used a 
garden sprayer to apply it.   The guy started growing hair in about a 
week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for only about 
3 days... 

  On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote: I swear our dogs 
had mange late last fall….  From what I read any type of mange 'could' be 
looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced and improved. In our case 
that was most definitely true as life had gotten busy and their diets had 
gotten fairly basic. 
   
  Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen 
peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet to 
support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds cure, did 
stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty bitty bathtub 
in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the mange where all 
the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the ears, which regrew 
in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch off and on but we also 
believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so says our herbalist and 
animal communicater etc. However, if you read these testimonials, it's a cheap 
instant fix. ;-) 
   
  wendy 
   
  http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html
 
   
  -Original Message-
From: Pat Lawrie [mailto: doglandi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: May 10, 2007 11:16 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMange
   
I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all 
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill 
them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would 
work. 

 

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Re: CSMange

2007-05-11 Thread Pat Lawrie
To give a little more background, I live in Mexico and these dogs belong to 
some very poor people who have no money for treatment, and no they do not get 
fed well. My friend, their neighbor, does help them out some, but their living 
conditions are not the best. The dogs live outside in the dirt and most in this 
area have only dirt floors for themselves. I need to go see for myself how 
extensive the problem is. For all I know it could be a terrible flea or tick 
problem. I didn't think CS would work, but just wanted to confirm it.   
  Pat


Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Good grief , garlic? That certainly sounds simple, available and doable 
here in Mexico. Think I'll tell them to give that a try.
   
  Thanks, Pat

Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:
  I cured a stray dog of horrible mange.  No hair left at all, bleeding, etc.  
I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender with DW.  
Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon) and used a 
garden sprayer to apply it.   The guy started growing hair in about a 
week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for only about 
3 days... 

  On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote: I swear our dogs 
had mange late last fall….  From what I read any type of mange 'could' be 
looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced and improved. In our case 
that was most definitely true as life had gotten busy and their diets had 
gotten fairly basic. 
   
  Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen 
peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet to 
support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds cure, did 
stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty bitty bathtub 
in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the mange where all 
the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the ears, which regrew 
in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch off and on but we also 
believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so says our herbalist and 
animal communicater etc. However, if you read these testimonials, it's a cheap 
instant fix. ;-) 
   
  wendy 
   
  http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html
 
   
  -Original Message-
From: Pat Lawrie [mailto: doglandi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: May 10, 2007 11:16 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMange
   
I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all 
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill 
them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would 
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CSMange

2007-05-10 Thread Pat Lawrie
I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all 
effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill 
them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would work.
   
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This is a fantastic site.
  Thanks, Pat

Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:
  For cancer of any type, look here:

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Re: Fw: RE: CSalfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons

2007-04-29 Thread Pat Lawrie
I guess the thing to do would be to take some of those specs and fibers to a 
lab and get them analyzed. But something is happening to heal those sores, 
nonetheless.
   
  Pat

mborg...@att.net wrote:
  More information on my friend with morgellions.

He followed the instructions but before getting into the tub he dissolved one 
of the alfalfa tabs black spots, long fibers came from the tabs. He than put 25 
tabs into the tub along with the laundry detergent,I cannot seem to understand 
wheather the bugs came from him or not for the water was green as he crushed 
them up before entering the tub, but the tub was loaded with black specks and 
fibers.

He stated that the sores all over his body by the next day had healed and were 
scabing over and his skin had never felt so soft. He tried it the next day, the 
same thing happened to him, he so enjoys his bath that he vows to keep doing it.

He is going to keep doing it and is going to report this to his friends who are 
Iraq Vets who are having horrendous problems with Morgellions.

thanks again
Mary

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 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave
 Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 2:52 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSalfalfa for mystery skin disease
 
 Did you ever use the Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe
 bleach in a bath before? It is possible that it could have been that
 alone, or that in combination with the alfalfa, or the alfalfa alone.
 
 Nevertheless, very interesting, and great news! Congrats!
 
 Dan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: feather...@netscape.net [mailto:feather...@netscape.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:59 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSalfalfa for mystery skin disease
 
 For any of you following the mystery, or who knows about using
 alfalfathis was posted on a morgellons site
 today..I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten
 years.
 
 Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is literally
 making it disappear from my BODY.
 
 As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have
 experimented with various super baths, filling the tub with hot water
 and puttibng in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent, laundry
 detergent, alcohol, etcwell, one day about four months ago, I was
 filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning so I put some
 Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach into the water,
 just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so good, and once I finish
 with the bath, I scrub it off with regular soap and a scrubby thing that
 is regularly disinfected.
 
 anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash that
 sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I returned to
 the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed and slid into the
 water for a soak.
 
 Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the sight
 of a morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey specks
 MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY THE HUNDREDS
 FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY
 
 And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things
 dissolving in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an
 alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the tub
 was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water! They
 were the cause of the migration of all things morgellon out of my skin
 in a fantastic migration for about an hour!
 Brown flecks, black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off
 the surface of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had
 NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY TOHER TOPICAL AGENT.
 
 THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY.
 
 The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are
 all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a research
 lab that has requested them.
 
 I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at
 least know some relief from the scourge of the skin.
 
 Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this miraculous
 discovery. He is only three years old, but he's a hero to his
 long-suffering Mommy!
 
 I've done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it
 creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like CANCER
 and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally can only be
 a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the difference in
 the world for me.
 
 I also tried putting St. Johns Wort in the bath along with it, with even
 better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered laundry
 detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the migration of
 the specks.
 
 God, I really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me.
 
 It has cleared up my symptoms so 

Re: CSMoving Lymph Naturally

2007-04-24 Thread Pat Lawrie
Has anyone received their copy? I never got anything, tho I have asked. I had a 
biopsy done of lymph nodes in armpit which had swollen. It came back as a 
chronic infection, tho I am never sick.
  Pat

Roger Barker rbar...@orcon.net.nz wrote:
  I'd love a copy please Sasha.

Cheers, Roger


On 24 Apr, 2007, at 5:05 AM, s...@emotap.com wrote:

 Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts 
 related
 to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple 
 protocol
 that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few 
 minutes,
 and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent
 results. Thought I would pass it along.

 So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me 
 privately. No
 charge of course. Okay?
 Sasha


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Re: CSMoving Lymph Naturally

2007-04-24 Thread Pat Lawrie
Thanks Denise, I'll try that.  Pat

Denise Rollheiser neec...@sasktel.net wrote:  I got my copy on the 
day I requested it Pataltho I did follow Sasha's request and sent my 
request to her, privatelythat might have made the difference.
   
  Denise
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Pat Lawrie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMoving Lymph Naturally
  

  Has anyone received their copy? I never got anything, tho I have asked. I had 
a biopsy done of lymph nodes in armpit which had swollen. It came back as a 
chronic infection, tho I am never sick.
  Pat

Roger Barker rbar...@orcon.net.nz wrote:
  I'd love a copy please Sasha.

Cheers, Roger


On 24 Apr, 2007, at 5:05 AM, s...@emotap.com wrote:

 Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts 
 related
 to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple 
 protocol
 that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few 
 minutes,
 and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent
 results. Thought I would pass it along.

 So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me 
 privately. No
 charge of course. Okay?
 Sasha


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RE: CSMoving Lymph Naturally

2007-04-23 Thread Pat Lawrie
I, too, would like a copy please.
  Thank you, Pat  doglandi...@yahoo.com

ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com wrote:
  I would also like a copy of this information. ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com

From Ruth Strackbein


From: s...@emotap.com 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CSMoving Lymph Naturally
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:05:18 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)

Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts related
to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple protocol
that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few 
minutes,
and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent
results. Thought I would pass it along.

So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me privately. No
charge of course. Okay?
Sasha


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Re: CS Tooth ache stopper !!!! 2 April

2007-04-03 Thread Pat Lawrie
I can get rid of the pain with any NSAID, but simply treating the pain does not 
get rid of the problem. I just know it's a cracked tooth. And because it's 
btwn molars, doubt it can be bonded, so will probably have to go with a crown 
and tell her I do not want root canal. Will do the temp crown and see if it 
corrects problem first.
  Pat

Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:
  One of the best products I know is Clove Oil, if you rub some on the gum
where the
tooth is aching the pain is gone within a half hour, you should be able
to purchase some at a health food store !
Regards
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Re: CSTooth Pain

2007-04-01 Thread Pat Lawrie
Doris,
  I really do not feel it is an infection as I have zapped (Clark handheld), 
CS'd, DMSO'd, H202'd (peroxide), and finally antibiotic'd. There was never any 
infla. at the gum area. I also used CS as a rinse at both dentist's offices. 
However, I think it's a mechanical issue with a horizontal crack right at the 
gum where floss catches on it. So that it's an exposed area. That's why I 
mentioned the bonding. But can you give me any more info on the band you got? 
What is it made of? I just gotta find someone who knows about it. I live in 
Mexico. I really want to avoid a root canal or a tooth pull.
   
  Thanks for everyone's input. I will look for Oil of Oregano tomorrow.
   
  Pat

Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote:
The last few weeks I had pain under a major filling (amalgam) and I started 
brushing with a stop of oregano oil on my toothbrush.  Then I zapped with a 
frequency generator and a zapper.  The two teeth were painful and when I zapped 
them they throbbed seriously for about a minute and then the pain was gone.  I 
used the oregano oil to keep it that way (although it tastes like crap).  The 
two teeth in question were painful to brush with the toothbrush and this 
subsided after the above regime.  When I went to the dentist he drilled out the 
amalgam and I brought my own cs and asked him if he minded if I rinse with that 
instead of his tap water.  He was intrigued and said sure.  After all that he 
put a plastic white filling in and haven't had a problem since then.  The tooth 
was so bad he had to put a band around it to reshape the one tooth, actually 
both teeth.  I am now pain free but the both teeth are wobbling.  I think I'll 
look for a frequency that stimulates bone
 growth and see if my jaw bone will grab those teeth again and stabilize them.  
Pain free though and still in need of a crown eventually.
  Doris

Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:
I went to dentist after a broken amalgam filling and had it replaced with 
composit a month ago. Ended up with worse pain than before, so went to another 
dentist and had filling taken out and a temporary one 

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Re: CSTooth Pain

2007-03-31 Thread Pat Lawrie
I went to dentist after a broken amalgam filling and had it replaced with 
composit a month ago. Ended up with worse pain than before, so went to another 
dentist and had filling taken out and a temporary one put in, pain is less but 
still there. I tried CS then DMSO plus CS twice a day with no improvement then 
out of desperation took the dreaded antibiotics for 9 days, just stopped today, 
still no change. So now I supposed I must have the blasted root canal and 
crown. Tried to explain the problem is on the outside of the tooth and floss 
catches on it but it's just below the gum line, but I guess they can't bond 
below the gum??? Anybody know? This does not show on xray. Meanwhile I will try 
CS more often, 3 days till next appt. I would obviously rather save the tooth.
   
  Pat
  
Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}  v\:* {   BEHAVIOR: url 
(#default#vml)  }  I have some broken fillings (root fillings; 
teeth then broke!) and just lately I have had pain every time I've eaten 
something hot or cold or sweet.  I've been taking EIS every few hours and its 
now all fine.  This stuff really is the best!  Dee 
   
  ---Original Message---
   
From: Terry Chamberlin
  Date: 30/03/2007 18:00:13
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSStomach ulcer

   
  I thought, one ounce every two hours? Forget it. So I
  Drank two ounces every hour all day and woke up
  frequently during the night to drink more. Five days
  later, absolutely no pain, and none for the last week.
  I have even eaten some spicy stuff to see what would
  happen. Nothing.
   
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Re: CSAnimals and CS

2007-02-20 Thread Pat Lawrie
I used DMSO gel plus spritzed on CS on a lump on my horse. After one week it 
went from hard to a softer lump but didn't change much after the next 2 weeks 
of use. So now I've given up and am sending him in to the vet to have him check 
it and possibly cut it out. It's just under where you tighten the cinch and 
would always be a source of irritation or I would just leave it.
  
Pat

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
  One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into 
their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water.

If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS 
on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the 
tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is 
well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 
50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like 
some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to 
tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually.

For more info check out
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
and take a look through the Files and search the messages for past posts 
on the subject.

Personally, I never get any list in digest form. Actually getting 
individual messages is much simpler and easier to handle. And replying 
is much easier as well.
sol


djphe...@att.net wrote:

 We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old. About two years ago 
 we took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and 
 feline leukemia. This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 
 inches in diameter. A veterinarian from another state told us that if 
 it was hard, it was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot 
 where the immunizations were given. He said this can happen and not 
 show up for months or even a year afterwards. We started giving him a 
 little silver in his water every day and in the first week, we noticed 
 his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, but couldn't tell any 
 difference in the lump. After a couple weeks, we thought the lump 
 seemed softer, but weren't sure. Then after another month, we were sure 
 it was smaller. Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 1/2 
 inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putti! ng 
 the silver in his water. The other day I even saw him run up the 
 stairs! He hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it 
 would work if we gave a shot right in the lump
 Another question or request  I take the digest form of the list, and 
 sometimes it seems like there's a ton of extra gobbledy gook in it and 
 some messages are repeated 3 or 4 times -- sometimes the whole digest is 
 repeated -- I wonder if when we reply to a message if we could 
 delete most of the post except for what's needed? If that's what causes 
 it, it would make it so much easier to find and read the messages in the 
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Re: CSIV Question-Update

2007-02-14 Thread Pat Lawrie
He got CS in the IV yesterday. I put CS and DMSO gel on his tumor late last 
nite. He was touch and go all nite but made it thru. This morning walked with 
help and did his business. He ate a gruel of food with a fair amount of water 
and tbsp CS. I reapplied CS and DMSO to tumor (I feel it is softening). Also 
giving him a bit of Rescue Remedy and Pedialyte. But two hours later he vomited 
what he ate. Another pee had blood in it. He is now sleeping out in the shade 
after being in the sun. I know this guy is loaded with bacteria as pus exudes 
from eyes, penis, and various places in skin. I feel the treatments are working 
but don't know how much more he can tolerate. The toxic overflow may kill him. 
I have wanted to use the Clarke Zapper on him, but have held back.
   
  Pat

Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.net wrote:
  I would look into mixing CS with DMSO and injecting that or using a sub 
q delivery if you want to get a lot into him. The DMSO will deliver the 
CS deep into tissues and even penetrates bone within 20 minutes. It is 
safe to use IV but should be given in a slow push to avoid some 
hemolysis. It can be applied topically as well, mixed with CS. There is 
a cancer treatment site that you can read about a topical protocol for 
Cancer

http: //www. new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC. html .

Spaces are to avoid spam filters, please remove them when pasting into 
your browser

Garnet

Pat Lawrie wrote:
 Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog 
 with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have 
 been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in 
 eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he 
 is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as 
 his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He 
 normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with 
 vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of 
 CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also.
 
 How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it 
 full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have 
 also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
 
 Pat
 
 */Ode Coyote /* wrote:
 
 
 Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium
 is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always
 that challenge.
 That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650
 diseases.
 Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
 Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.
 
 Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just
 'help'.
 [and how much can be hard to quantify ]
 
 Ode
 
 At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some
 de-ionised
 water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is
 effective
 against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a
 question
 to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and
 de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu
 as well?
 
 I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an
 alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the
 chances
 of getting that are slim in the UK.
 
 If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to
 point me to?
 
 Thanks for any advise,
 
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Re: CSIV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Pat Lawrie
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with 
lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving 
CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his 
nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more 
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making 
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I 
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I 
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little 
water also.
   
  How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full 
strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought 
of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
   
  Pat

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
  
Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium 
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always 
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 
diseases.
Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.

Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. 
[and how much can be hard to quantify ]

Ode

At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:

Hi all,

I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised 
water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective 
against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question 
to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and 
de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well?

I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an 
alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances 
of getting that are slim in the UK.

If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to?

Thanks for any advise,

J.


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Re: CSIV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Pat Lawrie
I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his 
water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it 
without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a 
debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I 
live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil 
and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning 
for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before.
   
  I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and 
stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting 
comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV 
tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. 
I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some 
love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, 
but his temperament is not at all aggressive.
   
  Pat

Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote:
Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or 
milk products  especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle 
to give the CS with.  raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS.  I 
would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain.  be well Marlene
  

 

  

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From:  Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com
Reply-To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: CSIV Question
Date:  Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST)
  

  Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with 
lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving 
CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his 
nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more 
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making 
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I 
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I 
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little 
water also.
  
 How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it 
full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also 
thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
  
 Pat

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
  
  
Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium 
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always 
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 
diseases.
Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.

Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. 
[and how much can be hard to quantify ]

Ode

At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:

Hi all,

I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised 
water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective 
against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question 
to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and   

de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well?

I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an 
alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances 
of getting that are slim in the UK.

If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to?

Thanks for any advise,

J.


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RE: CSIV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Pat Lawrie
I have a Clarke Zapper but only used it once on him for fear of too much stuff 
causing a worse reaction. I did the CS IV and that was touch and go. He is 
resting comfortably right now. He is critical and don't know if he will last 
the nite. Don't know if I should try the zapper tonite or not?? as a 
totally last ditch effort.
   
  Pat

Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote:
You can also try www.eagleresearchllc.com They have something called a 
guardian that seems to do quite well with tumours and healing and the like.  
I've tried it here in Toronto from a woman who sells them.  
  Doris

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  From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIV Question

   
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog 
with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been 
giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up 
his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more 
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making 
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I 
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I 
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little 
water also.

 

How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full 
strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought 
of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.

 

Pat

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:


Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium 
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always 
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 
diseases.
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RE: CSIV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Pat Lawrie
He did get some IV CS today per an earlier email. But he is now critical. I 
just got 40cc of Pedialyte into him. Will try again in an hour.
  Thanks, Pat

Sharlene Miyamura sharm...@mbft.com wrote:
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w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }If a dog is not drinking 
water and getting dehydrated, you can administer water or CS with an eye 
dropper into the rectum.  A little water at a time will be absorbed by the 
large intestine.
   
  
-
  
  From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIV Question

   
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog 
with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been 
giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up 
his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more 
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making 
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I 
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I 
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little 
water also.

 

How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full 
strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought 
of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.

 

Pat

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:


Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium 
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always 
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 
diseases.
Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.

Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. 
[and how much can be hard to quantify ]

Ode

At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:

Hi all,

I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised 
water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective 
against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question 
to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and 
de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well?

I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an 
alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances 
of getting that are slim in the UK.

If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to?

Thanks for any advise,

J.


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Re: CSIV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Pat Lawrie
Jen, I just got 40cc of Pedialyte in him which has electrolytes like Gatorade. 
What other ingredients did you put in and what was wrong with the dog? This is 
an old and very neglected dog who was found tied up with a wire buried in his 
neck with an obvious tumor. I am praying he makes it thru the nite.
   
  Thanks for the suggestion. 
  Pat

rusty0 rus...@charter.net wrote:
  Pat, last year I saved a dogs life with of all things gatorade, which 
amazed me but it worked.  add the needed ingredients to the gator ade and I 
used an eye dropper to give it to him as he was too far gone to be able to eat 
or swallow only took about 20 minutes and he was actuall standing up on his own 
4 feet.  from then on this babe grew and grew and grew and omg grew, he is huge 
now and 1 and a half years old.   (also a spoiled brat)  Jen
- Original Message - 
  From: Pat Lawrie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSIV Question
  

  I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his 
water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it 
without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a 
debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I 
live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil 
and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning 
for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before.
   
  I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and 
stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting 
comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV 
tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. 
I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some 
love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, 
but his temperament is not at all aggressive.
   
  Pat

Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote:
Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or 
milk products  especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle 
to give the CS with.  raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS.  I 
would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain.  be well Marlene
  

 

  

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From:  Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com
Reply-To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: CSIV Question
Date:  Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST)
  

  Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with 
lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving 
CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his 
nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more 
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making 
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I 
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I 
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little 
water also.
  
 How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it 
full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also 
thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
  
 Pat

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
  
  
Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium 
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always 
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 
diseases.
Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.

Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. 
[and how much can be hard to quantify ]

Ode

At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:

Hi all,

I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised 
water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective 
against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question 
to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and   

de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well?

I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an 
alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances 
of getting that are slim in the UK.

If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to?

Thanks for any advise,

J.


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RE: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

2006-12-27 Thread Pat Lawrie
Words from a practical guy: Each person needs to find his/her own approach.
  P

Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net wrote:
  Hello folks,

On the matter of detoxing from nicotine, please allow me a thought here.
Instead of constantly seeking for a way to medicate for this or that,
would it not be better to just do the following:

1. quit smoking
2. start exercising so that the lungs can expel the toxins naturally.
3. use a simple, general detox fast, such as the Master Cleanse.
4. start eating healthy foods

All too often we seem to look for concoctions and unnatural procedures as a
remedy for other unnatural concoctions and procedures that we want to
correct from.

Peter





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Re: CSskin cancer Black Salve

2006-12-26 Thread Pat Lawrie
Do you have an actual recipe to make the salve? or a link to one?  I live in 
Mexico and cannot just order stuff to be mailed here. 
   
  Thanks, Pat
  

Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:
  RE: The old Indian Skin cancer paste, (Black Salve)
and also know by many other names was sold on line by
Omega.com but they were temp. shut down. 

I have made Black Salve with Blood Root herb,
Graviola, Por D'Arco Herb, Dmso, CS, and a couple
other herbs, that worked well on me and a few friends.
It pulls the cancer out buy the roots, and it just
falls off. 

It takes a full day to cook, and prepare, so most
Herb guys don't mess with it. But it does work very
well.
That is why no one talks about it, The FDA will shut
you down !...@%#*
I could be in trouble for saying what I said. But
they can't shoot me for knowing what I know.


--- gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:

 A friend of mine use an American Indian salve by Two
 Feathers that got to the 
 root and totally irradicated on his face without
 scarring. I remember it was 
 a small jar and ran around $100.
 


Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

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