Re: CStooth problems- can EIS help?
I had a root canaled tooth and the filling on it broke and became painful. When I finally got to the dentist (I waited too long) he put in a temporary cap. Even with anaesthesia that tooth was extremely sensitive. He thought it might be the neighboring wisdom tooth, but I didn't think so. In any event, the next day it was still really painful and I thought I was going to have to call him and cancel the cap and have it pulled. But in a moment of lucidity, I decided to try my godzilla. I applied the sponges to each cheek for only 20 min. Pain was eliminated and has remained so. Godzila rocks! Pat From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: RE: CStooth problems- can EIS help? I easily destroyed several bacterial infections in the roots of my teeth as well as cavitations in teeth. I used a Godzilla… a battery hooked up to two wires with sponges on the ends used as electrodes. The DC current kills the bacteria instantly inside the tooth or root. You can use as little as 1 ½ volts or up to 6 volts but no higher. 9 volts is dangerous and overkill in any event. Just a flashlight battery will do. Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info and schematics on how to make the device… it costs less than $10 and has saved me thousands in dental bills. Good luck. Bob From:martsmai...@aol.com [mailto:martsmai...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStooth problems- can EIS help? You did the correct thing. According to Dr. Mercola During a root canal, there is no way to sterilize your tooth; after the root canal, dangerous bacteria hide out in the tooth and are unreachable with antibiotics · Root-canaled and filled teeth harbor bacteria that morph into very toxic forms, which then can migrate to other tissues in your body and cause serious medical conditions, including diseases of your heart, kidneys, bones, and brain · There is no other medical practice that permits leaving a dead body part inside your body, because it triggers your immune system to attack · If you have a diseased tooth, or if you’ve already had a root canal, I highly recommend consulting a biological dentist about have it extracted In a message dated 4/27/2012 9:19:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smjl...@wavewls.com writes: I would choose losing the tooth over a root canal any day!
Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots
I became sensitive to Sensodyne that I had been using for about a year. Of course it started AFTER I just bought a 3-pak!!! Pat From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:03 PM Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots DH had excrutiatingly sensitive teeth. Dentist recommended this special toothpaste for sensitive teeth. Using it gave him the same pain as sweet things. Studied the contents list, looked up on line - sorbitol is used to keep the paste moist. My mother used to tell me as a kid that they put sugar in toothpaste to rot people's teeth, and I didn't believe her. Sixty years later I wonder if this is what she meant. R On 13/02/2012 2:23 AM, sol wrote: I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity. sol -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots
You might try oregano oil. Pat From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots ew wrote: Well, if you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize sensitive teeth... and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper varities) will help take care of current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed nerves. (Using both the Tea Tree and the Sensodyne), one then the other) I can't use tea tree oil at all, is there another essential oil that can do the same thing? I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother way to heal
Thank you Renee, just joined. Had looked for it but couldn't find it. When I tried checking in the book, I chose the pain protocol, which was negative side down, even tho for the foot with the problem was positive. This morning I just loaned the rest of my discs and book to someone in worse pain than me after a fall. I like the discount and may have to order some more pronto. Pat From: gaiac...@gmail.com gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: CSAnother way to heal If you use the stronger ones you could put it outside your shoe--though you must wrap it good enough that it doesn't fall off. You could get the book out and look up the method that is recommended for toes. It will depend on which foot it is on as to whether you use the positive or negative side of the magnets. The group is here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Magnetictherapytoday/ Peter belongs to the group and will answer any questions you have about magnets and healing with them. This 50% off sale is great, though members of the group get 25% off all the time with a special code. So if someone missed the holiday sales there's still a way to save some money. Samala, Renee. ---Original Message--- What is the link to the magnet group please?
Re: CSAnother way to heal
What is the link to the magnet group please? I recently bought the Wellness Kit. After someone mentioned them yesterday, I got mine out and put it on a toe that's been sore like a boil for a month (could hardly walk). Pain was gone in just a few minutes to my utter amazement. Left it on all nite but couldn't wear it with shoes. Was fine all day today. Plan to reapply for tonite.Thank you, Pat From: "gaiac...@gmail.com" gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 6:49 PM Subject: Re: CSAnother way to heal You will not regret it. I wouldn't be without our magnets. Members of the magnetic group have reported some remarkable healings while using the magnets. Some I never even thought of--like putting magnets on both sides of thenose toclear a sinus infection! That would work better for me than using a netti pot with CS because I can't stand to run liquid into my nose. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Thank you for your post regarding the magnets.I have always wanted to work with magnets but there is so much out there it is difficult to know what to get and where to put them..and if they really do work. I am pleased to read of your personal experiences and the fact that the book is such a great help and guides the exact placement. I have purchased the wellness kit this morning and look forward to learning about the world of magnets and the body. Put that together with the wonderful use of CS and there we go
Re: CSThank you...
How does one know if their arteries are clear or not? I took several bottles of serrapeptase and nattokinase, but I didn't see or feel anything different before or after. How would you know without getting expensive and invasive dye studies? Pat From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 3:34:57 PM Subject: Re: CSThank you... M. G. Devour wrote: Now, how can he actually clean out his arteries and prevent a recurrence of this nonsense? He's been using the Pauling protocol for several years, and though it maybe slowed things down, it certainly didn't fix it all. Mike, I have a good friend with completely clear arteries, who says it is due to serrapeptase and nattokinase she takes. Also she eats very few PUFAs and does eat good fats, coconut oil and butter. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmuscle cramps
Did not work for me. Pat From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 1:58:42 PM Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps If it happens at night I would suggest throwing a couple of bars of soap into your bed. No need to unwrap but it must be soap and not a detergent bar. I know it sounds crazy but it does work for many. PT From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:11:31 AM Subject: CSmuscle cramps Lately whenever I try to exercise I get tons of muscle cramps in the subsequent days. When I use a product called First Endurance EFS (Electrolyte Fuel System) it helps a lot. But it's very expensive. Does anyone have any other suggestions for replacing electrolytes on a budget? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSmuscle cramps
AND me . Placebos have never worked on me like they do with many. Oh that power of suggestion. Nothing else worked either, ie. mag oil on feet and calves or xtra potassium. But lately, I've done nothing and haven't had any cramps for a few months now, go figure. I had them at nite and when I was doing Pilates. Stopped Pilates due to increasing back pain. Pat From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:25:54 PM Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps Well wouldn't you just know it? Had to be me. :-( MA From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:14:24 PM Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps You are the first 2 I have come across for whom it did not work. Ah, well! PT From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 7:33:28 PM Subject: Re: CSmuscle cramps Didn't work for me either. MA From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Did not work for me. Pat From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net If it happens at night I would suggest throwing a couple of bars of soap into your bed. No need to unwrap but it must be soap and not a detergent bar. I know it sounds crazy but it does work for many. PT From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:11:31 AM Subject: CSmuscle cramps Lately whenever I try to exercise I get tons of muscle cramps in the subsequent days. When I use a product called First Endurance EFS (Electrolyte Fuel System) it helps a lot. But it's very expensive. Does anyone have any other suggestions for replacing electrolytes on a budget? -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSarthritic pain
When I got my Mag oil, already made, I put it on my face. And oh yeah, did it burn and face turned beet red. Washed it off immediately. Since then have been using it on feet and ankles morning and nite. Still get leg cramps tho. Will buy from the source below and also look for an internal pill. I must be really deficient, or it's the potassium or.??? Pat From: mhale mchl.h...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 5:51:54 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain Are you experiencing any burning sensations or ? I just ordered 5lb of Nigari from Natural Import mike From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 3:33:22 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup waterBut I ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of flakes. You will know when too many flakes have been added because they won't dissolve. No big deal. Just decant the good liquid into another container and leave the flakes behind for your next batch I am using my home made magnesium oil... Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes added to it as possible garrick
Re: Re: CSarthritic pain
Glad you said this, cuz Dove is the one I use for bathing and intended to use in the bed. Anxious to try this and see if it works for me as well. Pat From: kathy.she...@verizon.net kathy.she...@verizon.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:42:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: CSarthritic pain My family has used this with success for restless legs. I have heard any soap except Dove and Dial is OK . Kathy Jun 14, 2010 11:34:35 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: Any bar soap? samala, Renee www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body. The Am Wand helps you get rid of it quickly and easily. Get the wand here ---Original Message--- If you have night time leg cramps you could try putting a bar of soap or two into your bed. Wrapped is OK. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
Re: CShelp for clogged arteries
There is a site www.serrapeptase.info which has a lot of info. I bought serrapeptase from them and noticed myself taking in deep breaths within just a few days. I didn't even know I wasn't breathing deeply till then. So I recently just added their Blockbuster All Clear and take it with Curcumin. Pat From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 10:40:47 AM Subject: Re: CS help for clogged arteries Serrapeptase has shown itself to be very good at completely clearing arteries. My wife's blood pressure went down with blood pressure from 150/100 to 115/65 without taking medicine blood pressure medicine after only one month of taking it. I believe that the heart surgeons would have to find another job if everyone would try that before surgery. Caution, to NOT take too much at once. If you have blocked arteries it needs to be removed slowly, if you take too much, chunks can break off and cause a stroke. But this is not a problem, it will clear vessels usually within a month or two. We initially took 2 capsules of SerraGold 100,000 IU a day, And once our blood pressure was normal and all the blockage gone (in about a month), we shitched to Drs 40.000 Best one a day for maintenance. Marshall Kirsteen Wright wrote: Hi can anyone offer any suggestions or pointers to the archives please. A friend of mine (male 60) has recently had a heart attack. The angiogram showed one artery completely blocked and the others severely constricted. He will probably have a quadruple bypass very soon. He has never smoked, exercises regularly and eats a vegan diet. He is very open to adding in supplements, complimentary therapies and a natural approach to the problem. However, surfing the web for advice he feels bombarded with sites all promising miracle cures if he just pays £ XXX for whatever they're selling. I know there's some really knowledgeable people here. What would you suggest he tries. Any advice gratefully received. Thanks Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.comsubject = unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list @ eskimo.com / maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT- CAN-C and Bright-eyes
After all I read about CanC, I bought the 6pak. After the first bottle of putting drops in 2-3 times a day, I noticed NO change. I stopped it and plan to start again (pretty expensive for no results), but now am feeling less hopeful. Pat From: sun sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 12:01:47 AM Subject: Re: CS OT-CAN-C and Bright-eyes Tankersley larry wrote: Hey Folks; Has anyone had experience using CAN-C or Bright-eyes for cataracts? Or other modalities? I've been dealing with a retinal detachment [twice now] since Dec. and they inject the gas bubble causes a rapid increase in the cataract. I'd really like to skip the operation. TIA Larry Tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA Larry, I have been using either Bright Eyes or CAN-C for about a year now (with a few gaps): CAN-C we are just finishing up 3 boxes of (6 bottles). I had great hopes for it, but have to say at my last eye exam just a few weeks ago the cataracts were still present, and the one in the left eye may have been just a tad worse (or not). The only good news is there has been no significant INCREASE in the cataract in either eye, Which may be due to the CAN-C and Bright Eyes, or may be due to the CS / MSM / DMSO eye drops I also use at times ( I stopped for over a month after a vitreous detachment in the left eye. I also would really like to skip cataract surgery, and am very lucky the vitreous detachment (which seems to have been total) did not cause a retinal tear or detachment. In my case the left eye Suffered an inflammation after the vitreous detachment, Which is now apparently gone, but I have months yet to think about cataract surgery, as it can not be done until it is certain the inflammation is entirely gone. And I'm left with a large obtrusive floater floater and a filmy, and the eye surgeon says cataract surgery may enable me to see the floaters even better, Which Is Not a Desirable thing, in my own opinion, LOL. I too want to put surgery off for the rest of my life ideally and that desire is even stronger since the vitreous detachment and the subsequent inflammation. But I have not succeeded in getting rid of the cataracts after a year of trying (though I seemed to be having success for the first couple of months of drops). sun . -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.comsubject = unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list @ eskimo.com / maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
What is the cost of the Vit D test in the US? I live in Mexico and was going to get the test till they told me it would cost like $260 dollars, so didn't get it. Pat From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver silver-list@eskimo.com list Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 9:50:29 PM Subject: CS Vitamin D I was disappointed today to find out that my 25-hydroxy vitamin D test showed my vitamin D level to be only 25. I was sure it would be so high that I almost did not request one. Since last fall I've been taking at D3 least 1.000 units plus the D3 in my multivitamin and calcium pills. When the day is warm enough, I go out with a jacket and shorts to get some sun. It's been a very cold winter for here, though. I'd gotten my level up two years ago from 14 in February to a near perfect 55 in the summer by taking 2.000 units D3 and then lying in the sun 20 minutes two or three times a week as soon as weather allowed. Have any of you had the vitamin D blood test?'ve Heard that in the north in the winter, even if you lie naked outside at noon, you can not get any vitamin D Because of the angle of the sun. (Plus you'd be a popsicle!) Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.comsubject = unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list @ eskimo.com / maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSImportant question about reducing atherosclerosis
Gordon, you might want to check out www.serrapeptase.org for reducing plaque. I just recently started taking it for just that purpose. It is an enzyme and does a LOT of other stuff too. Pat From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:48:35 PM Subject: Re: CS Important question about Reducing atherosclerosis When Linus Pauling was 90 years old, I was taking 18 grams of Vit C daily. Hmmmnnn. Urination In a test, he only urinated off 15%. ... The rest waswa Hmmmnnn going to work ... John On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Read: Practicing Medicine Without a LicenseOwen Fonrow Linus Pauling. Minimum 3 GRAMS C per day keeps the arterial plaque away. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: Thanks for this link. I printed the book and read it. I think very highly of it. On Friday, Jan 1, 2010, at 11:18 Asia / Tokyo, Dan Hall wrote: Read this e-book http://jkant2001.tripod.com/EAT_TO_LIVE.pdf You would have to change your diet ... Dan On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:02 PM, G Baldwin baldwin6...@comcast.net Wrote: List members, I hope someone can help me. I have moderate blockage in carotid artery. Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction is very distracting and seems to get louder with time. Can anyone suggest a protocol that I could try to reduce the build-up in the arteries? I am Concerned about a stroke. Any helpful suggestions will be very greatly appreciated. Regards, Gordon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down ... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdecongestant alternatives?
It is called a Netti Pot. Pat From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 2:25:01 PM Subject: Re: CSdecongestant alternatives? I recommend taking cayenne pepper. For an immediate help, take about 1/4 tsp in a glass of warm water and drink it down. Myself, I take it in capsule form. It helps with a great deal of stuff. You can also take a capsaicin cream such as Capsaicin HP and dab just a little bit on your forehead, cheekbones and nose right over your sinuses. This helps a lot as well. And for the diehard. get a bottle of sinusblaster. It's saline solution with a minute amount of capsaicin in it and when you squirt it up there, it briefly feels like someone has rammed a 6 inch red hot spike up there. but you talk about resolving cluster or sinus headaches instantly! Wow! (If you're a masochist, just have someone pepper spray you in the face that works too, but I don't recommend it!) Some people also use a salt solution rinse for their sinuses pour it in one nostril and it comes out the other. I'm told by folks that this is very effective. There are special devices you can buy at the health food store to do this. I forget what they're called. Steve G. --- On Sun, 1/17/10, S. Brown lizrbe...@yahoo.com wrote: From: S. Brown lizrbe...@yahoo.com Subject: CSdecongestant alternatives? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:33 AM I've had an ongoing sinus infection and decongestants make my resting heart rate close to 100. Is there something else I can use to help clear stopped up ears especially, not to mention sinuses? I take CS orally and can actually breathe thanks to a CS and saline wash. Thanks for any suggestions. --Irene
Re: CSHelp needed
Barbara, You can try and check out the www.serrapeptase.info website. I have just been reading many testimonials about just this thing. I just bought it to help clean out any placque I might have. But it does a whole LOT more stuff. They recommend taking a couple of other things as well. Pat From: Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:16:51 PM Subject: CS Help needed Hi Everyone, I have a friend with pulmonary arterial Hypertention. This is not COPD. Actually, she's got constriction of arteries between heart and lungs. Doctors do not know much about it, do not know how to treat it, it is rare and it may be congenital in her. Even as a child she was often out of breath. Would you guys have any thoughts for her? Cayenne? Barbara
Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma
I also took off a basal cell with just regular iodine and DMSO. After day 1 I noticed a marked difference. Because it stains, I covered it with a soaked cotton piece and duct tape. Think I only applied it sporadically about 5 or 6 times because the tape irritated my skin and it's in a difficult location on my shoulder for me to reach. But it really took it away. Has left a red mark so plan to do it again a couple more times. My concoction was about 1/3 DMSO to the iodine. I did not measure. Pat --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote: From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 6:38 AM #yiv2098267383 .hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv2098267383 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;} I think you may be right about the cell phone connection. You might want to combine the iodine with some DSMO. I have used vitamin C mixed with water on Basal and it did work for me. You have to apply it several times a day for a few days. After a while it burns and a scab forms. I don't know if it works for squamous. Paula - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: RE: CSsquamous cell carcinoma Paula I have some Lugol's Iodine so I will ask my Mom if she would use it. I don't think that would be painful. Mom is concerned since my Dad had the same thing happen to him but it had progressed and it took quite a bit of his ear. My dad died of a skin cancer shortly after healing from the ear. My sister in law and I were discussing the cancer in the ears and my brother has also got a spot looking suspicious in his. There are other people with same we know about. I think these cell phones and portable phones in the homes possibly play a roll. Thank you again for the information. Dianne From: p...@zoomnet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:14:42 -0400 #yiv2098267383 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} #yiv2098267383 .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Hi Diane, The website Jonathan mentioned is really interesting. The only deterrent to using the salve is that it appears to be fairly painful. I have read that skin cancers can be removed by applying 7% Lugol's Iodine 10 to 20 times a day. They do sell it at that website. I found a page to some other info I will post. Good luck for your mom! Paula - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: RE: CSsquamous cell carcinoma Paula My Mother was just diagnosed with the same cancer, it is inside her ear. She is 84 yrs old. I will be checking the web ite Jonathan sent also. Dianne From: p...@zoomnet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:31:00 -0400 Thanks Jonathan. I will, Paula - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:49 AM Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma Check altcancer.com The testimonials for Cancema salve are remarkable. On Thursday, May 14, 2009, at 21:56 Asia/Tokyo, Paula Perry wrote: My husband had a biopsy last week and just got the results back for a -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
I just bought some MSM at a tack store intended for MY use. It says on the label there are no fillers. Then when I got home and read further it says, quote: WARNING: For animal use only. Keep out of reach of other animals and children. In case of accidental overdose, contact a health professional immediately. This product should not be given to animals intended for human consumption. So with THAT warning I never took it. What the heck else could be in it so harmful? Pat --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:49 AM DMSO is The Same as MSM only missing an atom, making it a liquid, If you took DMSO and spread it on a plate and left it in the sun for a few days it would turn to white powder, Presto (MSM) Thats how they discovered it. Its a by-product of wood pulp The western lumber areas are a huge source for MSM-DMSO. Re: Food Grade DMSO? Try to get Lingual (mfg.) most of the rest is from China now-days. I told you to buy it in a Tack Store, to save you money. You can it the same quality stuff in an on line store, with a fancy name for much more money. If your looking for nice labels, and fancy bottles, you go guy. If you want to Save money, go to a pet store that sells Horse feed. Tel Tofflemire http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Dewey, AZ. --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote: From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com Subject: CSDMSO, Human or Horse ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:04 AM Where do you purchase human DMSO? ( This must reference, Food Grade ) If it is good enough, For a Million Dollar Horse, It is good enough for a Half Million dollar Human ! Many people take better care of their horses, Nutrition, scientific feeding, and everything else, Than they do for their own body. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
No, I don't. It's just that I worry about stuff coming out of China. And it doesn't say where it comes from on the label. Only that it's a Farnam product so how does one find out where it comes from. Pat --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote: From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:56 AM Morning Pat, At 08:58 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote: So with THAT warning I never took it. What the heck else could be in it so harmful? What Genius organization do you think is responsible for the bogus label ? You must believe, everything you read. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
That's what bothered me--that I don't know where it comes from as it does not say on the label. Pat --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:15 AM For your information,Pat,,, it is a warning on all the Great Horse products. Depending on Manufacture, USA or China, I would choose USA. MSM DMSO are both very good for sore muscles, and Joints, I take MSM 3,000 mg a day for arthritis. I have for 12 years. DMSO, I rub it on my extra sore areas , you can get it in a roll on applicator. I play golf 3 times a week, My Handicap is 20. I do ok. Many sports nuts use MSM DMSO. As for the warning labels. Well its called Cover your ass The mgf, must put a disclaimer on everything, look at aspirin, it has a warning too... Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:58 AM I just bought some MSM at a tack store intended for MY use. It says on the label there are no fillers. Then when I got home and read further it says, quote: WARNING: For animal use only. Keep out of reach of other animals and children. In case of accidental overdose, contact a health professional immediately. This product should not be given to animals intended for human consumption. So with THAT warning I never took it. What the heck else could be in it so harmful? Pat --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:49 AM DMSO is The Same as MSM only missing an atom, making it a liquid, If you took DMSO and spread it on a plate and left it in the sun for a few days it would turn to white powder, Presto (MSM) Thats how they discovered it. Its a by-product of wood pulp The western lumber areas are a huge source for MSM-DMSO. Re: Food Grade DMSO? Try to get Lingual (mfg.) most of the rest is from China now-days. I told you to buy it in a Tack Store, to save you money. You can it the same quality stuff in an on line store, with a fancy name for much more money. If your looking for nice labels, and fancy bottles, you go guy. If you want to Save money, go to a pet store that sells Horse feed. Tel Tofflemire http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Dewey, AZ. --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote: From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com Subject: CSDMSO, Human or Horse ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:04 AM Where do you purchase human DMSO? ( This must reference, Food Grade ) If it is good enough, For a Million Dollar Horse, It is good enough for a Half Million dollar Human ! Many people take better care of their horses, Nutrition, scientific feeding, and everything else, Than they do for their own body. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ?
Then how do I look it up? Pat --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote: From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO, Human or Horse Grade ? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:35 AM At 10:12 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote: That's what bothered me--that I don't know where it comes from as it does not say on the label. If there is a Barcode label, that will tell you the country of origin. Can't tell you from memory, I wish I could. Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBar Codes for China, and others
Wonder how reliable even THIS is, since my first 3 digits are 866.H Pat --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote: From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com Subject: CSBar Codes for China, and others To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:50 AM The whole world is afraid of China-made black hearted goods. Can you differentiate which one is made in Taiwan or China ? If the first 3 digits of the barcode are 690 , 691 , or 692 , the product is MADE IN CHINA . . . 471 is Made in Taiwan . This is our right to know, but the government and related departments never educate the public, therefore we have to RESCUE ourselves. Nowadays, Chinese businessmen know that consumers do not prefer products MADE IN CHINA , so they don't state from which country it is made. However, you may now refer to the barcode; remember, if the first 3 digits are: 690-692 then it is MADE IN CHINA . 00 - 09 USA CANADA 30 - 37 FRANCE 40 - 44 GERMANY 49 - JAPAN 50 - UK BUY AMERICAN! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStooth extraction regrets
About a year and a half ago I went thru this with a molar. I did not use DMSO, but did use CS, H202, oil pulling, and godzilla. The godzilla would stop it, but only for a day or so and then it erupted like a volcano. This went on for several days. All in all spent a few months trying to keep it at bay but finally gave up and had a root canal. Then it spread to the tooth next to it and had another root canal. But for the last 6 months or so, I feel something way deep in the first root canal, like maybe it's now in the bone. Have been pondering what to do about it. Do not really want an extraction, but am feeling that whatever is in there has also affected other areas of my body. Just don't know what to do. Pat --- On Mon, 3/23/09, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Subject: Re: CStooth extraction regrets To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:53 PM zzekel...@aol.com wrote: *I had a bad abscess on one of my teeth and got it cleared up using hydrogen per. EIS with DMSO added. Went to the dentist and my choices were extraction or root canal. * * I have had one reoccurrence of the abscess but have been able to clear it up with the H.P. -EIS DMSO. so I haven't had a chance to try the Godzilla. * You might have even faster more complete results if you used EIS with H202, or EIS with DMSO at different times. Mixing H202 and DMSO turns the DMSO into MSM, so you don't get the silver into the tissues. MSM can penetrate body tissues a little bit itself, but cannot transport silver or other substances with it. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfood prep with cs
And I just saw recently on tv how they were saying people were just wasting their money on bottled water---that tap water was just fine. UGH!!! nbsp; Pat --- On Sun, 6/8/08, Jonathan B. Britten lt;jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jpgt; wrote: From: Jonathan B. Britten lt;jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jpgt; Subject: Re: CSgt;food prep with cs To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 7:53 AM A recent issue of Harpers Magazine contains one of the most remarkable articles I've ever had the displeasure of reading. If you live in NYC and drink the water, you might not want to read it.The stuff is basically recycled sewage. On Tuesday, Jun 3, 2008, at 08:50 Asia/Tokyo, Jeff Shepler wrote: gt; Tap water contains much more than minerals. It's disgusting what is gt; in it. gt; -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour lt;mdev...@eskimo.comgt;
Re: CSChemtrails in mainstream news
Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com wrote:Would really like to know what they are spraying because they are all over Toledo Bend Lake where I am at. I went to the store in La. and saw them everywhere. I live on the Tx. side. Leslie --- Carol Ann wrote: I saw them here today where I live near Guadalajara, Mexico. Pat - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: CSThe Blue Man (Agryria) - Any Comments?
This was just discussed on the Regis Show a bit ago. Gelman, the producer, uses CS a bit he said. He downplayed it when asked what for and said it's an alternative thing for colds and such, an antiviral. They asked if the blueness would go away and he said he didn't know. This will be picked up by all media now and surely will make a stain upon its use as people will be scared of using it. Pat - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: CSArthritis is all gone!!
What type of arthritis are did you have? There are many kinds.. Pat Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Marshalee Hallett wrote: Dear Friends, I just wanted to tell you that, thanks to a fellow on this list who told me about CMO, my arthritis is now gone. I have absolutely no pain, even though I still have the nodes on both small fingers. None of the other fingers are affected, and all my joints, even the knees and hips, no longer bother me! That's fantastic. Since it had cured my arthritis several years ago, I was wondering if it would help anyone else here. So that means that we have at least 2 cases of arthritis cured by CMO on this list now. Great! Maybe some others who might benefit will give it a try now. I am so happy for you Marshalee. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
Re: CSArthritis is all gone!!
Oops, I typed this too fast as doorbell rang. I also wanted to congratulate you both for getting rid of a painful problem, no matter which type of arthritis it was. Pat Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote: What type of arthritis are did you have? There are many kinds.. Pat Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Marshalee Hallett wrote: Dear Friends, I just wanted to tell you that, thanks to a fellow on this list who told me about CMO, my arthritis is now gone. I have absolutely no pain, even though I still have the nodes on both small fingers. None of the other fingers are affected, and all my joints, even the knees and hips, no longer bother me! That's fantastic. Since it had cured my arthritis several years ago, I was wondering if it would help anyone else here. So that means that we have at least 2 cases of arthritis cured by CMO on this list now. Great! Maybe some others who might benefit will give it a try now. I am so happy for you Marshalee. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.
Re: CSRe: Brain Injuries
Frankie, I am so sorry this has happened to your son. But please remember there is always HOPE. I just saw an interview with Bob Woodward, the journalist, who was involved in a roadside bombing in Iraq. He was hit by schrapnel in the head. His injury was so severe that they took off a big chunk of skull bone because of the swelling. He was in a coma for some time. They didn't know if he would survive or not, but he has, and is almost back to normal. Do not lose hope. Pat Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries? My 21 year old son was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday morning and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support. I don't know whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know the quality of life expected - nobody knows. If anyone has any information, please share it. Thank you. Frankie DMSO applied liberally to the brain stem and spinal column has been known to totally prevent brain damage from trauma, and things like strokes - but it must be done ASAP HURRY!!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: CSBrain Injuries
I do not believe they removed the brain, but cut out a large part of the cranium to allow room for the brain swelling. Saw that in a recent interview with him. Pat ch...@tx.rr.com wrote: Hi, Frankie, An Anchor with ABC news was hit by a roadside bomb some months ago and received a brain injury. One of the key things that saved him was removing the brain from inside the head. Since the brain needs room to swell, if it doesn't get it, then there will be permanent brain injury. I too will pray for your son and family. God Bless, Cindy p.s. You might want to print pertinent pages to give to your son's doctor. One comment his wife said was that if he had received an injury like this in the US the doctors here wouldn't have known how to treat this (by removing the brain to give it room to swell). http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WoodruffReports/story?id=2900192page=1 - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
RE: CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Ruth, Have you ever done any colonics by a professional? I had severe constipation in my 20's, not evacuating for 7-10 days at a time, inspite of drinking bottles of prune juice and boxes of bran, taking thyroid, etc. It went on for about 10 years. When I finally discovered colon therapy, I must have done in the neighborhood of 30-40 sessions over a period of time and ever since then (30 yrs) have been quite normal. I saw quite surprising stuff come out of me. Just my experience. Pat jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: Ruth, I am just coming in on your emails so I hope Im not repeating someone else s advice. Do you live near a health food store where you can buy organic plain yogurt that has probiotics in it? It will help with gas and cramping and you can mix it with fresh fruit in between meals. Or you can make some yogurt with regular milk, preferably organic, if you have access to a gas oven. I think someone else just suggested probiotics in capsules. They sell all kinds at the health food store or online. Apple juice is good and drink lots of clean water. Can you tolerate adding uncooked olive oil or sesame oil on your veggies, brown rice or whole wheat pasta to lubricate your intestines naturally? Chop a little ginger and cook with your animal protein or veggies. It will help with stomach problems and gas. Garlic would be good too, preferably a little uncooked with veggies. Do you add sea salt to your meals? You may need a little if you get dehydrated from an over active bowel. Have you had your thyroid tested to make sure youre not hypothyroid? There is a test you can do yourself by putting a thermometer inside your armpit before getting out of bed in the morning. Someone on the list may know the approximate range of body temperature for low thyroid. Im sure its below 98. Thyroid meds can increase your metabolism and change your bowel habits. There are natural thyroid prescriptions like Armour. Before you sleep laying on your back, rub your abdomen from the navel outward in circular motion clockwise. Besides prunes, dates are really good for constipation. Peanut butter is helpful on toast or celery. You should be eating multigrain breads and peanut butter with no additives except salt. Strawberry rhubarb pie is good if you want to stay away from taking herbs. God bless you, Jess -Original Message- From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Digestion System Problems Hi, Libertytrek, Treblclef, I am planning to work with this Dr. for awhile yet. I have bi weekly consultations with him via phone. He doesn't use e-mail, but I call in with questions and progress reports or lack of it. His nurse alerts him and he calls me back. There is no charge for this service. Trouble is he is very busy, does these consultations between doing scheduled surgical procedures. I plan to write him a letter about some of my concerns, for instance, he would like me to use Citrucel which is his fiber of choice. I object because of the sugar in the orange can and the additives in the blue can. I think there is another kind now that is a clear stuff. He is, of course, totally unacquainted with such things as Bentonite Clay withpsyllium, etc. My son has given me a can of Fiberzon that he recommends. It works for him and for my second son as well, however, there is such a bewildering mixture of herbs listed that I am leery of it. Also John says it produces an urge that you have to attend to immediately if not sooner. I do eat a diet that consists prinicipally of fruits and vegetables, chicken, turkey, beef , fish . There are so many foods that react against the pain under my right ribcage (center) . or else against the lower right corner of my abdomen, probably the ileocecal region. What works for the one area seems to work against the other. None of the doctors are promising that all my pain will be gone as a aresult of this surgery, but it is hoped that if I no longer have to have sessions of straining or else too many stools ( often require straining, too, and my overlong bowel getting filled up and causing pressure. Think gas builds up in there, too. Transit time is 7-8 days mouth to rectum. Ten years ago it was 5 days. At present I will soon be 79 and will be living in my 80th year. This surgeon is reluctant to do this surgery because of my age, and also, presently I am underweight ., though gaining a little this week. Thanks for your concern. I will suggest the program you have listed. Ruth . From Ruth Strackbein From: treblcl...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Digestion System Problems Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:52:19 EDT Can you explain how being bound to ozone would not be good? I'm unfamiliar with this. === In a message dated 6/23/2007 11:39:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Re: CSPWT testers - Ode
Is the calibration solution a must have for the proper readout on the PWT meter? Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: That's what TDS meters are made for. Metering CS is a mis-application, so the readout has to be approximately doubled to get a ballpark idea of PPM in silver water as opposed to salt and hard water. An EC or conductivity meter is a far better meter for CS and can be read straight up numbers in uS as PPM in silver water. Google: Hanna HI 98308 PWT [pure water tester] or HM Digital COM-100 EC meters can sometimes be found on ebay. For instance: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Digital-Conductivity-EC-Nutrient-Meter-us-cm-NEW_W0QQitemZ280123889307QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20766QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem EUR 19.99 ode At 12:33 PM 6/15/2007 +0100, you wrote: Hi all, I've been Googling tds meters and only seem to be able to find ones for either acquarians or plumbing! Anyone any ideas for buying one in the UK please? TIA Dee     --  why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.16/849 - Release Date: 6/14/2007 12:44 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.16/849 - Release Date: 6/14/2007 12:44 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.16/849 - Release Date: 6/14/2007 12:44 PM - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
Re: CSpericoronitis
I think I have something similar to Hanneke and have been battling with long rinses of CS/DMSO, H202/DMSO, Clark Zapper, tried placing slice of garlic 2X, but it burned. Still have pain and cannot chew on that side. Been going on so long that I now have clicking of TMJ on opposite side. I think this was actually caused by the dentist after an onlay with spillover cement trapping food btwn teeth for one week. No pain in tooth before that occurred. Think those little bugs just traveled down side of tooth to the bone. I am about to give in to the prescribed amoxicillin tonite. UGH!!! Been trying to hold out till a friend came back from out of the country with her Rife Machine, but still not here. Cannot find oil of oregano or some of those other things as I live in Mexico. Pat Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: And what is wrong with waiting the 3 days until the results from the culture and sensitivity test come back? I just hate it when you get an rx and it is blind like that- sometimes it is necessary (like when an appendix ruptures) but usually not that serious. I hope you get the results you are looking for. kathryn On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Hanneke wrote: I would like to thank all those who have written to me off list as well as the responses on the list for all the suggestions for possible ways of dealing with this infection. I understand from some of the responses that I might not have been clear re the wisdom tooth; it has not erupted, still totally below the gum-line and,according to both the dentist and the oral surgeon, unlikely to erupt ever. Surgery is only way to remove it, and that seems to be the tricky part due to the way it is lodged in jaw. My current protocol includes oil-pulling, swishing with CS/DMSO (70/30), 8oz-16oz of CS, plenty of vit C: up to tablespoon of ascorbic acid and in the form of lemon juice with cayenne pepper , garlic, the use of the Godzilla, and Sota pulser. In the process of getting a deep pocket water pik. I wished I could tell you all it's feeling better already but I will persevere until it's fixed. Earlier this week I went to see a medical doctor (to get another opinion ). Although overdue, at last A swab was taken and I will hear the results tomorrow, so hopefully I might at last learn what type of infection I am dealing with. Funny, this doctor knows I don't take drugs as a rule.. she prescribed 2 (!!) different antibiotics (metrogyl 200) and Cephalexin 500mg(Ialex), to be taken simultaneously, and wants to have me on another 2 weeks of this after I finish this course ??? Asking why she thought to have 2 at same time, she reasoned that if one wouldn't kill it, the other might.oh, and if the results show I need another one, we just have to swap to another type of antibiotics. As a good patient ;-) I took the prescription home (you got to do something to keep the communication lines open with those who have the tools for diagnostics). Once again, thank you all Hanneke ~ Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: CSliver to sol
How much is 5 grams in terms of teaspoons? Pat Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: I take 5 grams of powdered MSM daily for pain. Works for me. On 5/31/07, zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com wrote: Just wondering what type of liver troubles you have. I just got a report that I have a lesion on my liver. I have to have further testing. I have had liver pain for years. Do you think that advil is as harmful as tylenol? I dont know whether to take tylenol or advil for pain when i have it. I think advil is hard on kidneys and tylenol on the liver. I have problems with both so pain meds are a challange for me. - You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com - You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: CSLate stage last-ditch cancer therapy
I would suggest researching the Budwig Diet and join the flaxseedo...@yahoogroups.com and start by reading the Files section. This diet has a high success rate in bringing back the immune system. Had I known of this before my sister died of lung cancer, she might still be alive today. Pat Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I am inquiring on behalf of a person near to death. Has anyone on this list seen any remarkable recoveries or spontaneous remissions with use of large quantities of EIS? I am familiar with R.0. Becker's amazing research, but that did not include cancer treatment or internal consumption of EIS. Thanks in advance. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
Re: CSMange
Good grief , garlic? That certainly sounds simple, available and doable here in Mexico. Think I'll tell them to give that a try. Thanks, Pat Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: I cured a stray dog of horrible mange. No hair left at all, bleeding, etc. I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender with DW. Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon) and used a garden sprayer to apply it. The guy started growing hair in about a week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for only about 3 days... On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote: I swear our dogs had mange late last fall . From what I read any type of mange 'could' be looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced and improved. In our case that was most definitely true as life had gotten busy and their diets had gotten fairly basic. Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet to support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds cure, did stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty bitty bathtub in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the mange where all the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the ears, which regrew in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch off and on but we also believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so says our herbalist and animal communicater etc. However, if you read these testimonials, it's a cheap instant fix. ;-) wendy http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html -Original Message- From: Pat Lawrie [mailto: doglandi...@yahoo.com] Sent: May 10, 2007 11:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMange I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would work. Pat - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
Re: CSMange
To give a little more background, I live in Mexico and these dogs belong to some very poor people who have no money for treatment, and no they do not get fed well. My friend, their neighbor, does help them out some, but their living conditions are not the best. The dogs live outside in the dirt and most in this area have only dirt floors for themselves. I need to go see for myself how extensive the problem is. For all I know it could be a terrible flea or tick problem. I didn't think CS would work, but just wanted to confirm it. Pat Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote: Good grief , garlic? That certainly sounds simple, available and doable here in Mexico. Think I'll tell them to give that a try. Thanks, Pat Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: I cured a stray dog of horrible mange. No hair left at all, bleeding, etc. I used fresh garlic, about two whole bulbs, blended in the blender with DW. Then put that mix in with the rest of the DW (total one gallon) and used a garden sprayer to apply it. The guy started growing hair in about a week...Don't get it in the eyes...Sprayed him once a day for only about 3 days... On 5/11/07, Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote: I swear our dogs had mange late last fall . From what I read any type of mange 'could' be looked at as the immune system needing to be balanced and improved. In our case that was most definitely true as life had gotten busy and their diets had gotten fairly basic. Anyhow we did give the dogs CS to drink and also used Ted's hydrogen peroxide and borax, as well as some herbal tinctures from the holistic vet to support kidneys and spleen (apparent weakness in our breed). Teds cure, did stop the itching but bathing our big guys frequently in our itty bitty bathtub in the winter was not all that easy. Although ours wasn't the mange where all the hair falls out in patches we did have hair loss on the ears, which regrew in the first couple weeks. They did continue to itch off and on but we also believe there may have been a pesticide exposure so says our herbalist and animal communicater etc. However, if you read these testimonials, it's a cheap instant fix. ;-) wendy http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html -Original Message- From: Pat Lawrie [mailto: doglandi...@yahoo.com] Sent: May 10, 2007 11:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMange I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would work. Pat - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
CSMange
I know that CS works for bacteria, fungus, and virus, but is it at all effective on larger critters like mange mites on dogs? The normal way to kill them is several weeks of ivermectin, but don't want to do that if CS would work. Pat - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: CSCancer
This is a fantastic site. Thanks, Pat Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: For cancer of any type, look here: http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy.htm Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Fw: RE: CSalfalfa for mystery skin disease- Morgellons
I guess the thing to do would be to take some of those specs and fibers to a lab and get them analyzed. But something is happening to heal those sores, nonetheless. Pat mborg...@att.net wrote: More information on my friend with morgellions. He followed the instructions but before getting into the tub he dissolved one of the alfalfa tabs black spots, long fibers came from the tabs. He than put 25 tabs into the tub along with the laundry detergent,I cannot seem to understand wheather the bugs came from him or not for the water was green as he crushed them up before entering the tub, but the tub was loaded with black specks and fibers. He stated that the sores all over his body by the next day had healed and were scabing over and his skin had never felt so soft. He tried it the next day, the same thing happened to him, he so enjoys his bath that he vows to keep doing it. He is going to keep doing it and is going to report this to his friends who are Iraq Vets who are having horrendous problems with Morgellions. thanks again Mary -- Original message -- From: tom chick -Original Message- From: Dan Nave Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 2:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSalfalfa for mystery skin disease Did you ever use the Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach in a bath before? It is possible that it could have been that alone, or that in combination with the alfalfa, or the alfalfa alone. Nevertheless, very interesting, and great news! Congrats! Dan -Original Message- From: feather...@netscape.net [mailto:feather...@netscape.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSalfalfa for mystery skin disease For any of you following the mystery, or who knows about using alfalfathis was posted on a morgellons site today..I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years. Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is literally making it disappear from my BODY. As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have experimented with various super baths, filling the tub with hot water and puttibng in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent, laundry detergent, alcohol, etcwell, one day about four months ago, I was filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning so I put some Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach into the water, just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so good, and once I finish with the bath, I scrub it off with regular soap and a scrubby thing that is regularly disinfected. anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash that sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I returned to the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed and slid into the water for a soak. Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the sight of a morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey specks MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY THE HUNDREDS FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things dissolving in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the tub was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water! They were the cause of the migration of all things morgellon out of my skin in a fantastic migration for about an hour! Brown flecks, black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off the surface of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY TOHER TOPICAL AGENT. THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY. The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a research lab that has requested them. I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at least know some relief from the scourge of the skin. Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this miraculous discovery. He is only three years old, but he's a hero to his long-suffering Mommy! I've done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like CANCER and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally can only be a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the difference in the world for me. I also tried putting St. Johns Wort in the bath along with it, with even better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the migration of the specks. God, I really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me. It has cleared up my symptoms so
Re: CSMoving Lymph Naturally
Has anyone received their copy? I never got anything, tho I have asked. I had a biopsy done of lymph nodes in armpit which had swollen. It came back as a chronic infection, tho I am never sick. Pat Roger Barker rbar...@orcon.net.nz wrote: I'd love a copy please Sasha. Cheers, Roger On 24 Apr, 2007, at 5:05 AM, s...@emotap.com wrote: Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts related to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple protocol that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few minutes, and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent results. Thought I would pass it along. So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me privately. No charge of course. Okay? Sasha -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: CSMoving Lymph Naturally
Thanks Denise, I'll try that. Pat Denise Rollheiser neec...@sasktel.net wrote: I got my copy on the day I requested it Pataltho I did follow Sasha's request and sent my request to her, privatelythat might have made the difference. Denise - Original Message - From: Pat Lawrie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:05 PM Subject: Re: CSMoving Lymph Naturally Has anyone received their copy? I never got anything, tho I have asked. I had a biopsy done of lymph nodes in armpit which had swollen. It came back as a chronic infection, tho I am never sick. Pat Roger Barker rbar...@orcon.net.nz wrote: I'd love a copy please Sasha. Cheers, Roger On 24 Apr, 2007, at 5:05 AM, s...@emotap.com wrote: Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts related to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple protocol that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few minutes, and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent results. Thought I would pass it along. So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me privately. No charge of course. Okay? Sasha -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: 23/04/2007 5:26 PM - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: CSMoving Lymph Naturally
I, too, would like a copy please. Thank you, Pat doglandi...@yahoo.com ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com wrote: I would also like a copy of this information. ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com From Ruth Strackbein From: s...@emotap.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: CSMoving Lymph Naturally Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:05:18 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts related to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple protocol that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few minutes, and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent results. Thought I would pass it along. So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me privately. No charge of course. Okay? Sasha -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: CS Tooth ache stopper !!!! 2 April
I can get rid of the pain with any NSAID, but simply treating the pain does not get rid of the problem. I just know it's a cracked tooth. And because it's btwn molars, doubt it can be bonded, so will probably have to go with a crown and tell her I do not want root canal. Will do the temp crown and see if it corrects problem first. Pat Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote: One of the best products I know is Clove Oil, if you rub some on the gum where the tooth is aching the pain is gone within a half hour, you should be able to purchase some at a health food store ! Regards Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA.
Re: CSTooth Pain
Doris, I really do not feel it is an infection as I have zapped (Clark handheld), CS'd, DMSO'd, H202'd (peroxide), and finally antibiotic'd. There was never any infla. at the gum area. I also used CS as a rinse at both dentist's offices. However, I think it's a mechanical issue with a horizontal crack right at the gum where floss catches on it. So that it's an exposed area. That's why I mentioned the bonding. But can you give me any more info on the band you got? What is it made of? I just gotta find someone who knows about it. I live in Mexico. I really want to avoid a root canal or a tooth pull. Thanks for everyone's input. I will look for Oil of Oregano tomorrow. Pat Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote: The last few weeks I had pain under a major filling (amalgam) and I started brushing with a stop of oregano oil on my toothbrush. Then I zapped with a frequency generator and a zapper. The two teeth were painful and when I zapped them they throbbed seriously for about a minute and then the pain was gone. I used the oregano oil to keep it that way (although it tastes like crap). The two teeth in question were painful to brush with the toothbrush and this subsided after the above regime. When I went to the dentist he drilled out the amalgam and I brought my own cs and asked him if he minded if I rinse with that instead of his tap water. He was intrigued and said sure. After all that he put a plastic white filling in and haven't had a problem since then. The tooth was so bad he had to put a band around it to reshape the one tooth, actually both teeth. I am now pain free but the both teeth are wobbling. I think I'll look for a frequency that stimulates bone growth and see if my jaw bone will grab those teeth again and stabilize them. Pain free though and still in need of a crown eventually. Doris Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote: I went to dentist after a broken amalgam filling and had it replaced with composit a month ago. Ended up with worse pain than before, so went to another dentist and had filling taken out and a temporary one - Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
Re: CSTooth Pain
I went to dentist after a broken amalgam filling and had it replaced with composit a month ago. Ended up with worse pain than before, so went to another dentist and had filling taken out and a temporary one put in, pain is less but still there. I tried CS then DMSO plus CS twice a day with no improvement then out of desperation took the dreaded antibiotics for 9 days, just stopped today, still no change. So now I supposed I must have the blasted root canal and crown. Tried to explain the problem is on the outside of the tooth and floss catches on it but it's just below the gum line, but I guess they can't bond below the gum??? Anybody know? This does not show on xray. Meanwhile I will try CS more often, 3 days till next appt. I would obviously rather save the tooth. Pat Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);} v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) } I have some broken fillings (root fillings; teeth then broke!) and just lately I have had pain every time I've eaten something hot or cold or sweet. I've been taking EIS every few hours and its now all fine. This stuff really is the best! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Terry Chamberlin Date: 30/03/2007 18:00:13 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSStomach ulcer I thought, one ounce every two hours? Forget it. So I Drank two ounces every hour all day and woke up frequently during the night to drink more. Five days later, absolutely no pain, and none for the last week. I have even eaten some spicy stuff to see what would happen. Nothing. Son of a gun. Terry Chamberlin - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: CSAnimals and CS
I used DMSO gel plus spritzed on CS on a lump on my horse. After one week it went from hard to a softer lump but didn't change much after the next 2 weeks of use. So now I've given up and am sending him in to the vet to have him check it and possibly cut it out. It's just under where you tighten the cinch and would always be a source of irritation or I would just leave it. Pat sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water. If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually. For more info check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/ and take a look through the Files and search the messages for past posts on the subject. Personally, I never get any list in digest form. Actually getting individual messages is much simpler and easier to handle. And replying is much easier as well. sol djphe...@att.net wrote: We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old. About two years ago we took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and feline leukemia. This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 inches in diameter. A veterinarian from another state told us that if it was hard, it was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot where the immunizations were given. He said this can happen and not show up for months or even a year afterwards. We started giving him a little silver in his water every day and in the first week, we noticed his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, but couldn't tell any difference in the lump. After a couple weeks, we thought the lump seemed softer, but weren't sure. Then after another month, we were sure it was smaller. Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 1/2 inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putti! ng the silver in his water. The other day I even saw him run up the stairs! He hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it would work if we gave a shot right in the lump Another question or request I take the digest form of the list, and sometimes it seems like there's a ton of extra gobbledy gook in it and some messages are repeated 3 or 4 times -- sometimes the whole digest is repeated -- I wonder if when we reply to a message if we could delete most of the post except for what's needed? If that's what causes it, it would make it so much easier to find and read the messages in the right order. Thanks everyone. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: CSIV Question-Update
He got CS in the IV yesterday. I put CS and DMSO gel on his tumor late last nite. He was touch and go all nite but made it thru. This morning walked with help and did his business. He ate a gruel of food with a fair amount of water and tbsp CS. I reapplied CS and DMSO to tumor (I feel it is softening). Also giving him a bit of Rescue Remedy and Pedialyte. But two hours later he vomited what he ate. Another pee had blood in it. He is now sleeping out in the shade after being in the sun. I know this guy is loaded with bacteria as pus exudes from eyes, penis, and various places in skin. I feel the treatments are working but don't know how much more he can tolerate. The toxic overflow may kill him. I have wanted to use the Clarke Zapper on him, but have held back. Pat Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.net wrote: I would look into mixing CS with DMSO and injecting that or using a sub q delivery if you want to get a lot into him. The DMSO will deliver the CS deep into tissues and even penetrates bone within 20 minutes. It is safe to use IV but should be given in a slow push to avoid some hemolysis. It can be applied topically as well, mixed with CS. There is a cancer treatment site that you can read about a topical protocol for Cancer http: //www. new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC. html . Spaces are to avoid spam filters, please remove them when pasting into your browser Garnet Pat Lawrie wrote: Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat */Ode Coyote /* wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: CSIV Question
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: CSIV Question
I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before. I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, but his temperament is not at all aggressive. Pat Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene - From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, a! ddress your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
RE: CSIV Question
I have a Clarke Zapper but only used it once on him for fear of too much stuff causing a worse reaction. I did the CS IV and that was touch and go. He is resting comfortably right now. He is critical and don't know if he will last the nite. Don't know if I should try the zapper tonite or not?? as a totally last ditch effort. Pat Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote: You can also try www.eagleresearchllc.com They have something called a guardian that seems to do quite well with tumours and healing and the like. I've tried it here in Toronto from a woman who sells them. Doris Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Hi Ms Pat Sounds as though youre far ahead of most of us seekers and I congratulate you! Have you made one of bGs marvelous 6 bolt Godzillas to apply concurrently with these other treatments? Go to microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com and youll find photos, needed items and many beneficial results that others have had using it. Please visit my Site; www.rharrisinc.com read my background and let me know if I can be of help. Sincerely, Dr. Richard Harris, PD 448 W. Juniata St. Clermont, FL 34711 - From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. - All new Yahoo! Mail - Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
RE: CSIV Question
He did get some IV CS today per an earlier email. But he is now critical. I just got 40cc of Pedialyte into him. Will try again in an hour. Thanks, Pat Sharlene Miyamura sharm...@mbft.com wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }If a dog is not drinking water and getting dehydrated, you can administer water or CS with an eye dropper into the rectum. A little water at a time will be absorbed by the large intestine. - From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
Re: CSIV Question
Jen, I just got 40cc of Pedialyte in him which has electrolytes like Gatorade. What other ingredients did you put in and what was wrong with the dog? This is an old and very neglected dog who was found tied up with a wire buried in his neck with an obvious tumor. I am praying he makes it thru the nite. Thanks for the suggestion. Pat rusty0 rus...@charter.net wrote: Pat, last year I saved a dogs life with of all things gatorade, which amazed me but it worked. add the needed ingredients to the gator ade and I used an eye dropper to give it to him as he was too far gone to be able to eat or swallow only took about 20 minutes and he was actuall standing up on his own 4 feet. from then on this babe grew and grew and grew and omg grew, he is huge now and 1 and a half years old. (also a spoiled brat) Jen - Original Message - From: Pat Lawrie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: CSIV Question I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before. I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, but his temperament is not at all aggressive. Pat Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene - From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682
RE: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox
Words from a practical guy: Each person needs to find his/her own approach. P Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net wrote: Hello folks, On the matter of detoxing from nicotine, please allow me a thought here. Instead of constantly seeking for a way to medicate for this or that, would it not be better to just do the following: 1. quit smoking 2. start exercising so that the lungs can expel the toxins naturally. 3. use a simple, general detox fast, such as the Master Cleanse. 4. start eating healthy foods All too often we seem to look for concoctions and unnatural procedures as a remedy for other unnatural concoctions and procedures that we want to correct from. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSskin cancer Black Salve
Do you have an actual recipe to make the salve? or a link to one? I live in Mexico and cannot just order stuff to be mailed here. Thanks, Pat Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: RE: The old Indian Skin cancer paste, (Black Salve) and also know by many other names was sold on line by Omega.com but they were temp. shut down. I have made Black Salve with Blood Root herb, Graviola, Por D'Arco Herb, Dmso, CS, and a couple other herbs, that worked well on me and a few friends. It pulls the cancer out buy the roots, and it just falls off. It takes a full day to cook, and prepare, so most Herb guys don't mess with it. But it does work very well. That is why no one talks about it, The FDA will shut you down !...@%#* I could be in trouble for saying what I said. But they can't shoot me for knowing what I know. --- gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: A friend of mine use an American Indian salve by Two Feathers that got to the root and totally irradicated on his face without scarring. I remember it was a small jar and ran around $100. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com