Re: CSpsoriasis/was O of O
Hi, group, Does O of O help psoriasis? My adult son has very severe psoriasis all over his face, neck, legs. He does not want going to see doctor. He said there was no cure. I tried MMS with DMSO spray. temporary got rid of thick skin and showing pink bare skin. Now it went back to original ugly psoriasis. He also am suffering thick fungus toenails and callous too painful to walk. I suspect he has lots fungus/yeast issues. I am thinking making a paste of baking soda/dmso/cs. to give a try or may be O of O paste? Your feedback much appreciated. Helen --- On Mon, 10/29/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Subject: Re: CSO of O To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 9:50 AM Oil of orgegano Trem. dee From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:44 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:29:46 -0700 Excuse my ignorance. What is O of O? Trem From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group I have used it many times and survived! Marshall On 10/27/2012 3:43 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: NOTHING survives O of O - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Also Oil of Oregano and Lemon Balm have said to have been successful.. Having tasted O of O I can say that I’m sure no shingles would ever survive it! (lol) dee From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmicroelectricitygermkiller group Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:21:39 -0700 The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles issues. I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try. Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles. I have no personal experience with this oil for shingles. Best wishes, pj No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5355 - Release Date: 10/26/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12
Re: CSpsoriasis/was O of O
In a message dated 10/29/2012 1:19:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dingyun...@att.net writes: Does O of O help psoriasis? My adult son has very severe psoriasis all over his face, neck, legs. He does not want going to see doctor. He said there was no cure. I tried MMS with DMSO spray. temporary got rid of thick skin and showing pink bare skin. Now it went back to original ugly psoriasis. He also am suffering thick fungus toenails and callous too painful to walk. I suspect he has lots fungus/yeast issues. I am thinking making a paste of baking soda/dmso/cs. to give a try or may be O of O paste? Your feedback much appreciated. Helen Helen, the beat thing I have found to help many people with skin conditions is Brooks Mix---This is it--- 75% CS {EIS}--10% DMSO--15% glycerin. Put the DMSO in last--The mixture will get warm but that's OK.. shake it a bit before each use.. It is great for many, many skin conditions, shingles, psoriasis, athletes foot, on on..{{ Can uses Aloe Vera in place of glycerin in some cases it works better is less expensive..Just make sure it is pure with no added ingredients..}} .Lois
Re: CSPsoriasis
Hello, A couple of days ago I was looking for Psoriasis treatments for a neighbor. Several times different people said they found relief by applying Milk of Magnesia to the affected areas and had improvement within days. Check it out. I hope it helps. Greg On 8/16/2012 10:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
I forgot to mention that it is the Magnesium Hydroxide in Milk of Magnesia that was said to help . Greg On 8/16/2012 10:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
Maybe it was due to a vitamin B deficiency then? dee From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:49 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:53 -0700 I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Re: CSPsoriasis
This seems to be a sever lack of nutrician when these skin conditions manifest. Some of my friends are haveing huge success with the muscadine grape seed capsules and lotion. For myself, it is reducing age spot /inflamation in the organs when I put it onto the reflex points on hands and feet. Toenails have never looked better. Moons on the toenails is almost unheard of in an adult. Tara On 8/17/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Maybe it was due to a vitamin B deficiency then? dee From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:49 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:53 -0700 I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPsoriasis
Tara Is there a certain brand that you and your friends are using? Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis This seems to be a sever lack of nutrician when these skin conditions manifest. Some of my friends are haveing huge success with the muscadine grape seed capsules and lotion. For myself, it is reducing age spot /inflamation in the organs when I put it onto the reflex points on hands and feet. Toenails have never looked better. Moons on the toenails is almost unheard of in an adult. Tara On 8/17/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Maybe it was due to a vitamin B deficiency then? dee From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:49 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:53 -0700 I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPsoriasis
Hi Paul, Yes, I get it from a my sister. It is from Nature's Pearl Products company in NC and you can get it at her special price from the website, or you can call them and they will deliver it to you. Their number is 336-998-2386 and her ID number is 13348 The HF stores that are starting to carry it around here, (It's new to Canada) can't enough of it keep it in stock. Good luck with this and let me know if you have any trouble ordering? Maybe I can help. There has been at least twenty years of research into this native remedy and they are still trying to figure out what is the source of such a high resveratrol count with it. It seems to be related to sacred geometry which then suggests that there might be an ormus effect with it which would possibly then contain precious minerals like the silver, irridium, platinum, gold etc. all in a liquid colloidal form. 905-640-8625 Best wishes, Tara On 8/17/12, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote: Tara Is there a certain brand that you and your friends are using? Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis This seems to be a sever lack of nutrician when these skin conditions manifest. Some of my friends are haveing huge success with the muscadine grape seed capsules and lotion. For myself, it is reducing age spot /inflamation in the organs when I put it onto the reflex points on hands and feet. Toenails have never looked better. Moons on the toenails is almost unheard of in an adult. Tara On 8/17/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Maybe it was due to a vitamin B deficiency then? dee From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:49 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:53 -0700 I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPsoriasis
Thanks Tara :) Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:33 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Hi Paul, Yes, I get it from a my sister. It is from Nature's Pearl Products company in NC and you can get it at her special price from the website, or you can call them and they will deliver it to you. Their number is 336-998-2386 and her ID number is 13348 The HF stores that are starting to carry it around here, (It's new to Canada) can't enough of it keep it in stock. Good luck with this and let me know if you have any trouble ordering? Maybe I can help. There has been at least twenty years of research into this native remedy and they are still trying to figure out what is the source of such a high resveratrol count with it. It seems to be related to sacred geometry which then suggests that there might be an ormus effect with it which would possibly then contain precious minerals like the silver, irridium, platinum, gold etc. all in a liquid colloidal form. 905-640-8625 Best wishes, Tara On 8/17/12, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote: Tara Is there a certain brand that you and your friends are using? Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis This seems to be a sever lack of nutrician when these skin conditions manifest. Some of my friends are haveing huge success with the muscadine grape seed capsules and lotion. For myself, it is reducing age spot /inflamation in the organs when I put it onto the reflex points on hands and feet. Toenails have never looked better. Moons on the toenails is almost unheard of in an adult. Tara On 8/17/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Maybe it was due to a vitamin B deficiency then? dee From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:49 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:53 -0700 I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPsoriasis
Re: CSPsoriasisYes, mine was probably from B and C deficiency. My ex-BF had it for 40 years on 80% of his body. I put him through brewers yeast, blood cleanse, kidney cleanse, liver cleanse, parasite cleanse, change of diet, no coffee, sugar, etc etc. What finally cleaned it up was treating it like a fungus with a home made salve. (Proprietary ingredients, sorry). It totally went away in 4 months and stayed gone for 4 years, until he started building anger again. I believe the anger stated clogging his liver and it came back, although never as bad as when I first met him. Just something to think about. Gayla - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:06 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Maybe it was due to a vitamin B deficiency then? dee -- From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:49 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:53 -0700 I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Re: CSPsoriasis
Ah, now ,liver cleanser. Big time! Get some MilkThistle Extract. Silibum Marianum. Tincture unless you are lucky enought to find it growing wild. Works wonders especially if you have the big 'C'. Tara *** On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.comwrote: ** Yes, mine was probably from B and C deficiency. My ex-BF had it for 40 years on 80% of his body. I put him through brewers yeast, blood cleanse, kidney cleanse, liver cleanse, parasite cleanse, change of diet, no coffee, sugar, etc etc. What finally cleaned it up was treating it like a fungus with a home made salve. (Proprietary ingredients, sorry). It totally went away in 4 months and stayed gone for 4 years, until he started building anger again. I believe the anger stated clogging his liver and it came back, although never as bad as when I first met him. Just something to think about. Gayla - Original Message - *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 3:06 AM *Subject:* Re: CSPsoriasis Maybe it was due to a vitamin B deficiency then? dee -- *From: *Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Date: *Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:49 -0700 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: *Re: CSPsoriasis *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Resent-Date: *Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:35:53 -0700 I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - *From:* Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com drumr...@stny.rr.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM *Subject:* Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Re: CSPsoriasis
Hi Paul, brooks mix is an excellent cure for many skin conditions in we humans our pets. I have given it to many peopleit usually works in about 5-7 days... Here are the directions-- Lois 75% colloidal Silver {EIS}--10% DMSO 15% glycerin . Add the DMSO Last. It will get warm but that is OK. Shake it up before each application. Apply a thin coat topically. Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
CSPsoriasis
Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
HI Paul, Psoriasis (P) seems to have many reasons, thus many remedies that sort of work for a while and then don't. Being a Lymie, I've found that P, for me, is an expression of my liver being over-burdened and the skin taking out the trash, and manifesting inflammation. When I first started Salt C, my P diminished somewhat, then plateaued and as I killed more and more Lyme, it was hard to do enough detox to relieve the skin and things more or less returned. I'd tried Milk Thistle, but it didn't do much, until this spring, someone mentioned higher dosing and within 2 weeks, several of my more recently-arrived patches completely cleared up! I was experimenting with 3 caps a day. Now have gone to 4. (headaches appeared at increase, then tapered off) Now my patches are more like clusters of islands, instead of solid continents, and the rate of scale build-up is much slower. Stress, hot, humid weather, definitely don't help. Not scratching them until they flake off and bleed is another thing. I've found that clear packing tape, rubbed on hard with a spoon, then peeled off, will remove scales well, without the bleeding, which I think triggers more inflammation. Argan oil, applied several times a day also seems to calm the skin a bit. I put it in a small roll-on bottle (eBay) to make it go farther, as it's expensive. I'm convinced that P, like Lyme, can be a group of things, which would explain why remedies work for a while and then don't, as secondary fungi, or infections become the new insurgents. Just my opinion: not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat. I tried Low-Dose Naltrexone for a couple months as that had been highly touted for P arthritis, but to my horror, I had new outbreaks on my face where there'd never been before, so quit. My local pharmacist mixes a topical creme base with Gotu-Kola, emptied from herbal caps, and that seems to help soften scales so they come off more easily. I've tried that, along with adding Feverfew herb powder to the mix. I read the P sufferers are sometimes deficient in Fumaric acid, so I tried that and it helped break 'continents' into 'islands' a bit, but slowly.I still take one a day just in case. Recently, this summer, I had small (o)-sized red spots with dry scaly centers pop up in new places and feared they'd be new P, then googled around and found that there is a certain form of strep rash that can happen. I Rifed for all the strep in the CAFL list and the spots faded away. Colloidal silver seems to knock out some of the pathogens that might be along for the ride on major patches. This is a tough one! The old ad saying 'The heartbrak of Psoriasis' wasn't kidding. The TV-advertised pharma has too many black-box warnings for me. Anything that compromises the immune system, especially for Lymies, is a step in the WRONG direction. So many promising pharmaceutical that I resisted over the years would now have entitled me to being part a many class-actions suits, that I'm never tempted by their superficial fixes. If the remedy doesn't actually work at the very basic cause, it's a waste of time, $$$, and possibly one's ability to heal. On other issues, I've had good luck with Chinese traditional medicines, (TCMs) with some that are pre-made as teapills, for general conditions, but the couple I tried for P didn't do anything, which means they might have to be custom-made by an expert Chinese herbalist, who can assess you personally, and I have none in my area. Hope something here is of use. Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
What was the dose of Milk Thistle? Giving number of capsules does not tell us how much you took. Thanks, Janet R. Perry, MA Wellness Consultant Austin, Texas 512.585.1320 On 8/16/12 10:09 AM, Lena Guyot wrote: HI Paul, Psoriasis (P) seems to have many reasons, thus many remedies that sort of work for a while and then don't. Being a Lymie, I've found that P, for me, is an expression of my liver being over-burdened and the skin taking out the trash, and manifesting inflammation. When I first started Salt C, my P diminished somewhat, then plateaued and as I killed more and more Lyme, it was hard to do enough detox to relieve the skin and things more or less returned. I'd tried Milk Thistle, but it didn't do much, until this spring, someone mentioned higher dosing and within 2 weeks, several of my more recently-arrived patches completely cleared up! I was experimenting with 3 caps a day. Now have gone to 4. (headaches appeared at increase, then tapered off) Now my patches are more like clusters of islands, instead of solid continents, and the rate of scale build-up is much slower. Stress, hot, humid weather, definitely don't help. Not scratching them until they flake off and bleed is another thing. I've found that clear packing tape, rubbed on hard with a spoon, then peeled off, will remove scales well, without the bleeding, which I think triggers more inflammation. Argan oil, applied several times a day also seems to calm the skin a bit. I put it in a small roll-on bottle (eBay) to make it go farther, as it's expensive. I'm convinced that P, like Lyme, can be a group of things, which would explain why remedies work for a while and then don't, as secondary fungi, or infections become the new insurgents. Just my opinion: not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat. I tried Low-Dose Naltrexone for a couple months as that had been highly touted for P arthritis, but to my horror, I had new outbreaks on my face where there'd never been before, so quit. My local pharmacist mixes a topical creme base with Gotu-Kola, emptied from herbal caps, and that seems to help soften scales so they come off more easily. I've tried that, along with adding Feverfew herb powder to the mix. I read the P sufferers are sometimes deficient in Fumaric acid, so I tried that and it helped break 'continents' into 'islands' a bit, but slowly.I still take one a day just in case. Recently, this summer, I had small (o)-sized red spots with dry scaly centers pop up in new places and feared they'd be new P, then googled around and found that there is a certain form of strep rash that can happen. I Rifed for all the strep in the CAFL list and the spots faded away. Colloidal silver seems to knock out some of the pathogens that might be along for the ride on major patches. This is a tough one! The old ad saying 'The heartbrak of Psoriasis' wasn't kidding. The TV-advertised pharma has too many black-box warnings for me. Anything that compromises the immune system, especially for Lymies, is a step in the WRONG direction. So many promising pharmaceutical that I resisted over the years would now have entitled me to being part a many class-actions suits, that I'm never tempted by their superficial fixes. If the remedy doesn't actually work at the very basic cause, it's a waste of time, $$$, and possibly one's ability to heal. On other issues, I've had good luck with Chinese traditional medicines, (TCMs) with some that are pre-made as teapills, for general conditions, but the couple I tried for P didn't do anything, which means they might have to be custom-made by an expert Chinese herbalist, who can assess you personally, and I have none in my area. Hope something here is of use. Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
Dear Paul, Cetyl Myristoleate or CMO is supposed to help all auto-immune diseases, and it cured my arthritis, (my dog`s, too) so if P is auto-immune, it ought to help! (I`ve heard it is good for Lupus.) Marshalee On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: HI Paul, Psoriasis (P) seems to have many reasons, thus many remedies that sort of work for a while and then don't. Being a Lymie, I've found that P, for me, is an expression of my liver being over-burdened and the skin taking out the trash, and manifesting inflammation. When I first started Salt C, my P diminished somewhat, then plateaued and as I killed more and more Lyme, it was hard to do enough detox to relieve the skin and things more or less returned. I'd tried Milk Thistle, but it didn't do much, until this spring, someone mentioned higher dosing and within 2 weeks, several of my more recently-arrived patches completely cleared up! I was experimenting with 3 caps a day. Now have gone to 4. (headaches appeared at increase, then tapered off) Now my patches are more like clusters of islands, instead of solid continents, and the rate of scale build-up is much slower. Stress, hot, humid weather, definitely don't help. Not scratching them until they flake off and bleed is another thing. I've found that clear packing tape, rubbed on hard with a spoon, then peeled off, will remove scales well, without the bleeding, which I think triggers more inflammation. Argan oil, applied several times a day also seems to calm the skin a bit. I put it in a small roll-on bottle (eBay) to make it go farther, as it's expensive. I'm convinced that P, like Lyme, can be a group of things, which would explain why remedies work for a while and then don't, as secondary fungi, or infections become the new insurgents. Just my opinion: not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat. I tried Low-Dose Naltrexone for a couple months as that had been highly touted for P arthritis, but to my horror, I had new outbreaks on my face where there'd never been before, so quit. My local pharmacist mixes a topical creme base with Gotu-Kola, emptied from herbal caps, and that seems to help soften scales so they come off more easily. I've tried that, along with adding Feverfew herb powder to the mix. I read the P sufferers are sometimes deficient in Fumaric acid, so I tried that and it helped break 'continents' into 'islands' a bit, but slowly.I still take one a day just in case. Recently, this summer, I had small (o)-sized red spots with dry scaly centers pop up in new places and feared they'd be new P, then googled around and found that there is a certain form of strep rash that can happen. I Rifed for all the strep in the CAFL list and the spots faded away. Colloidal silver seems to knock out some of the pathogens that might be along for the ride on major patches. This is a tough one! The old ad saying 'The heartbrak of Psoriasis' wasn't kidding. The TV-advertised pharma has too many black-box warnings for me. Anything that compromises the immune system, especially for Lymies, is a step in the WRONG direction. So many promising pharmaceutical that I resisted over the years would now have entitled me to being part a many class-actions suits, that I'm never tempted by their superficial fixes. If the remedy doesn't actually work at the very basic cause, it's a waste of time, $$$, and possibly one's ability to heal. On other issues, I've had good luck with Chinese traditional medicines, (TCMs) with some that are pre-made as teapills, for general conditions, but the couple I tried for P didn't do anything, which means they might have to be custom-made by an expert Chinese herbalist, who can assess you personally, and I have none in my area. Hope something here is of use. Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
I know, but I'm on the road, and all my doses are all organized in pill-boxes; the bottles remaining at home. After taking some pricier MT, I ran out, and had to find what was available on the road. Got MT at Walmart. It proved to be as effective, so I'm taking 4 of those now. You could probably check the bottle for quantity there. Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Janet R. Perry wrote: What was the dose of Milk Thistle? Giving number of capsules does not tell us how much you took. Thanks, Janet R. Perry, MA Wellness Consultant Austin, Texas 512.585.1320 On 8/16/12 10:09 AM, Lena Guyot wrote: HI Paul, Psoriasis (P) seems to have many reasons, thus many remedies that sort of work for a while and then don't. Being a Lymie, I've found that P, for me, is an expression of my liver being over-burdened and the skin taking out the trash, and manifesting inflammation. When I first started Salt C, my P diminished somewhat, then plateaued and as I killed more and more Lyme, it was hard to do enough detox to relieve the skin and things more or less returned. I'd tried Milk Thistle, but it didn't do much, until this spring, someone mentioned higher dosing and within 2 weeks, several of my more recently-arrived patches completely cleared up! I was experimenting with 3 caps a day. Now have gone to 4. (headaches appeared at increase, then tapered off) Now my patches are more like clusters of islands, instead of solid continents, and the rate of scale build-up is much slower. Stress, hot, humid weather, definitely don't help. Not scratching them until they flake off and bleed is another thing. I've found that clear packing tape, rubbed on hard with a spoon, then peeled off, will remove scales well, without the bleeding, which I think triggers more inflammation. Argan oil, applied several times a day also seems to calm the skin a bit. I put it in a small roll-on bottle (eBay) to make it go farther, as it's expensive. I'm convinced that P, like Lyme, can be a group of things, which would explain why remedies work for a while and then don't, as secondary fungi, or infections become the new insurgents. Just my opinion: not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat. I tried Low-Dose Naltrexone for a couple months as that had been highly touted for P arthritis, but to my horror, I had new outbreaks on my face where there'd never been before, so quit. My local pharmacist mixes a topical creme base with Gotu-Kola, emptied from herbal caps, and that seems to help soften scales so they come off more easily. I've tried that, along with adding Feverfew herb powder to the mix. I read the P sufferers are sometimes deficient in Fumaric acid, so I tried that and it helped break 'continents' into 'islands' a bit, but slowly.I still take one a day just in case. Recently, this summer, I had small (o)-sized red spots with dry scaly centers pop up in new places and feared they'd be new P, then googled around and found that there is a certain form of strep rash that can happen. I Rifed for all the strep in the CAFL list and the spots faded away. Colloidal silver seems to knock out some of the pathogens that might be along for the ride on major patches. This is a tough one! The old ad saying 'The heartbrak of Psoriasis' wasn't kidding. The TV-advertised pharma has too many black-box warnings for me. Anything that compromises the immune system, especially for Lymies, is a step in the WRONG direction. So many promising pharmaceutical that I resisted over the years would now have entitled me to being part a many class-actions suits, that I'm never tempted by their superficial fixes. If the remedy doesn't actually work at the very basic cause, it's a waste of time, $$$, and possibly one's ability to heal. On other issues, I've had good luck with Chinese traditional medicines, (TCMs) with some that are pre-made as teapills, for general conditions, but the couple I tried for P didn't do anything, which means they might have to be custom-made by an expert Chinese herbalist, who can assess you personally, and I have none in my area. Hope something here is of use. Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: Dear Paul, Cetyl Myristoleate or CMO is supposed to help all auto-immune diseases, and it cured my arthritis, (my dog`s, too) so if P is auto-immune, it ought to help! (I`ve heard it is good for Lupus.) Marshalee On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: HI Paul, Psoriasis (P) seems to have many reasons, thus many remedies that sort of work for a while and then don't. Being a Lymie, I've found that P, for me, is an expression of my liver being over-burdened and the skin taking out the trash, and manifesting inflammation. When I first started Salt C, my P diminished somewhat, then plateaued and as I killed more and more Lyme, it was hard to do enough detox to relieve the skin and things more or less returned. I'd tried Milk Thistle, but it didn't do much, until this spring, someone mentioned higher dosing and within 2 weeks, several of my more recently-arrived patches completely cleared up! I was experimenting with 3 caps a day. Now have gone to 4. (headaches appeared at increase, then tapered off) Now my patches are more like clusters of islands, instead of solid continents, and the rate of scale build-up is much slower. Stress, hot, humid weather, definitely don't help. Not scratching them until they flake off and bleed is another thing. I've found that clear packing tape, rubbed on hard with a spoon, then peeled off, will remove scales well, without the bleeding, which I think triggers more inflammation. Argan oil, applied several times a day also seems to calm the skin a bit. I put it in a small roll-on bottle (eBay) to make it go farther, as it's expensive. I'm convinced that P, like Lyme, can be a group of things, which would explain why remedies work for a while and then don't, as secondary fungi, or infections become the new insurgents. Just my opinion: not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat. I tried Low-Dose Naltrexone for a couple months as that had been highly touted for P arthritis, but to my horror, I had new outbreaks on my face where there'd never been before, so quit. My local pharmacist mixes a topical creme base with Gotu-Kola, emptied from herbal caps, and that seems to help soften scales so they come off more easily. I've tried that, along with adding Feverfew herb powder to the mix. I read the P sufferers are sometimes deficient in Fumaric acid, so I tried that and it helped break 'continents' into 'islands' a bit, but slowly.I still take one a day just in case. Recently, this summer, I had small (o)-sized red spots with dry scaly centers pop up in new places and feared they'd be new P, then googled around and found that there is a certain form of strep rash that can happen. I Rifed for all the strep in the CAFL list and the spots faded away. Colloidal silver seems to knock out some of the pathogens that might be along for the ride on major patches. This is a tough one! The old ad saying 'The heartbrak of Psoriasis' wasn't kidding. The TV-advertised pharma has too many black-box warnings for me. Anything that compromises the immune system, especially for Lymies, is a step in the WRONG direction. So many promising pharmaceutical that I resisted over the years would now have entitled me to being part a many class-actions suits, that I'm never tempted by their superficial fixes. If the remedy doesn't actually work at the very basic cause, it's a waste of time, $$$, and possibly one's ability to heal. On other issues, I've had good luck with Chinese traditional medicines, (TCMs) with some that are pre-made as teapills, for general conditions, but the couple I tried for P didn't do anything, which means they might have to be custom-made by an expert Chinese herbalist, who can assess you personally, and I have none in my area. Hope something here is of use. Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
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I'll try it! Thanks! Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Gayla Chepourkoff wrote: I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
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Thanks all for all this wonderful information!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:35 PM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
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It may be a similar cure, but my son had horrendous P for all his childhood years. Not even the super strong prescription shampoos helped a bit. When I started to look into kefir for our diets, I found that some folks were using kefir whey (drained off finished kefir, leaving behind a soft cheese) as a hair rinse to treat a variety of scalp conditions. I tried it for my son, and he has had a clear scalp ever since. I just mix about a cup of the drained whey in a quart of warmish water, and pour it on after completing the shampoo. I rub it through his scalp and hair and let it sit a few minutes before a final water rinse. It leaves his hair shiny and manageable, too. I wash his hair with just homemade soap, which if you've tried you know it can leave your hair a little tough and stringy. But with the whey rinse no conditioner is needed, and his hair is in great shape, along with his scalp. Sara I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - *From:* Lena Guyot mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM *Subject:* Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
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I just bought some Thanks Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:31 PM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Hi There Paul - go to my website and get yourself a jar of my Colloidal Silver gel and give it a try - it has worked for many others so why not for you ? REgards Sandee Attitude is everything!!! www.aliveagain.co.cc Criminal Arrest History See anyone's arrest records. Unlimited searches for peace of mind. InstantCheckmate.com
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Hi Sara, This is interesting news, as I make kefir daily and always have whey. Will try it as a hair rinse and see if it helps. Thanks! Be well, Léna On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote: It may be a similar cure, but my son had horrendous P for all his childhood years. Not even the super strong prescription shampoos helped a bit. When I started to look into kefir for our diets, I found that some folks were using kefir whey (drained off finished kefir, leaving behind a soft cheese) as a hair rinse to treat a variety of scalp conditions. I tried it for my son, and he has had a clear scalp ever since. I just mix about a cup of the drained whey in a quart of warmish water, and pour it on after completing the shampoo. I rub it through his scalp and hair and let it sit a few minutes before a final water rinse. It leaves his hair shiny and manageable, too. I wash his hair with just homemade soap, which if you've tried you know it can leave your hair a little tough and stringy. But with the whey rinse no conditioner is needed, and his hair is in great shape, along with his scalp. Sara I got rid of mine with brewer's yeast. I was taking it to improve my hair and nails and lo and behold the P went away. That was over 40 years ago and it has never returned. Gayla - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis Forgot to mention, I tried CMO for 3 months, with no noticeable benefits to any of my auto-immune things (but I'm a Lymie). P is an elusive thing, So leave no stone unturned; something might be the magic answer! L On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:
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I gave a friend with psoriasis some CS about 10 years ago, and he said it cleared it right up. He said that it was caused by agent orange, but don't know if that makes any difference or not. Marshall On 12/1/2011 2:08 AM, Antony Blenkinsop wrote: Dear Chaps Have you any experiece or advice for CS use. The is an arthritis complication. Thanks in advance. Tony
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In a message dated 12/1/2011 2:08:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bl...@hotmail.com writes: Dear Chaps Have you any experiece or advice for CS use. The is an arthritis complication. Thanks in advance. Tony Hi Tony, The subject line mentions psoriasis. If that is the problem there is a Mix I call Brooks mix because it was introduced to this group by a researcher named Brooks...This is the mix...75% Colloidal Silver---10% DMSO15% Glycerin.Add the DMSO last as it will heat up a bit {don't worry that is natural.} This is for topical application ---Shake it up before use as it does separate. It is great for all kinds of skin problems...I hope this helps, Lois
RE: CSpsoriasis
Dear Chaps Have you any experiece or advice for CS use. The is an arthritis complication. Thanks in advance. Tony
Re: CSpsoriasis and Ayurvedic, Immunocal
My mother had psoriasis after taking care of my Parkinson's, bed-ridden, feeding-tubed father for a year. She took Immunocal and her spots slowly went away. I had high blood pressure and someone here suggested Mukta Vati, an Ayurvedic herbal blend. I got some and was amazed how well it works, better than my sisters' prescription meds and also actually changing things in the body to effect a cure, not a patch. So, I wonder if the remedies in Ayurvedic would also do a great job on psoriasis but have no experience with them. Neem is supposed to have good properties in that area, and a remedy called Kayakalp vati available on ebay. Has anyone tried these? Has anyone had success with any other Ayurvedic formulas for any specific conditions? Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis - feverfew question
Lena, is the feverfew for headaches or some other pain? Thanks, Jess From: Guyot Léna Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis I take lecithin. I take 15 g of good vitamin C daily. I do not make liposomal C, as I haven't felt the need, and what with making my own CS, Kefir, Kombucha, distilled water, and other potions, lotions, eye drops, Mag oil sprays, as well as encapsulations of Himmy salt, C.O.T., B.S. M.S.M., Moringa, Modifilan, and what-not, I've hit my limit, especially as my use of the C I'm doing has been highly successful in reducing my Lyme. Again, My use of feverfew, gotu kola, and Fumaric acid seems to be doing the trick. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: But is this liposomal C or just ordinary ascorbic acid? The liposomal C incorporates lecithin and makes the Vit C highly absorbable. dee On 9 May 2011, at 15:57, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Dee, I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years as part of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other aspects of healing. Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for people with chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on info as to how to get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding expenses, but for me, it not only didn't work, it made a discreet problem pop out onto my face. It was a nightmare. Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to still present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my best shot. As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt.' Thanks anyway. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the liposomal Vit C? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis - feverfew question
A friend found it for migraines and read that it can help psoriasis, which is what I'm taking it for. Seems to be working. On May 13, 2011, at 11:03 AM, jess wrote: Lena, is the feverfew for headaches or some other pain? Thanks, Jess From: Guyot Léna Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis I take lecithin. I take 15 g of good vitamin C daily. I do not make liposomal C, as I haven't felt the need, and what with making my own CS, Kefir, Kombucha, distilled water, and other potions, lotions, eye drops, Mag oil sprays, as well as encapsulations of Himmy salt, C.O.T., B.S. M.S.M., Moringa, Modifilan, and what-not, I've hit my limit, especially as my use of the C I'm doing has been highly successful in reducing my Lyme. Again, My use of feverfew, gotu kola, and Fumaric acid seems to be doing the trick. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: But is this liposomal C or just ordinary ascorbic acid? The liposomal C incorporates lecithin and makes the Vit C highly absorbable. dee On 9 May 2011, at 15:57, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Dee, I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years as part of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other aspects of healing. Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for people with chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on info as to how to get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding expenses, but for me, it not only didn't work, it made a discreet problem pop out onto my face. It was a nightmare. Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to still present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my best shot. As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt.' Thanks anyway. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the liposomal Vit C? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is very interesting Bob, I will pass it on. Many thanks. dee On 8 May 2011, at 19:26, bob Larson wrote: autoimmune problem. CS alone may help to some extent, but from my observations the last couple years LDN low dose naltrexone is the thing first for any/all autoimmune issues. i've seen many reports, no failures, of varying (mostly high) success with psoriasis... -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 10:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSpsoriasis can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis
Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the liposomal Vit C? dee On 9 May 2011, at 03:35, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Diane, Yes, lecithin IS worth trying. I take 2T lecithin granules daily; have for a couple years now. I know it's good for lots of things, so I haven't given it up, despite that fact that it hasn't made a difference in my psoriasis. sigh. I think many people with psoriasis run the gamut of great, well-recommended remedies, and by trial and error, may eventually find just the right one. Most of us have spent a fortune on these over the years. I've always had a fantasy of a 'great psoriasis remedy swap', where everyone could meet and try leftovers of what hasn't worked for others. ;) I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt. Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Diane Mackey wrote: Lena, I had severe eczema, three times, as a baby, as a teen, and in my mid 20s. In my 20s, someone told me to take Lecithiin for the eczema, and I did and it work beautifully within a couple of weeks. When my elderly grandmother got a bad case of psoriasis, I gave her a bottle of lecithin and it worked well for her too, but took a bit longer. She took two caps of lecithin three times a day along with a Vitamin E capsule. In about a month it looked great. Lecithin is cheap and keeps things moist from the inside out, amongst other great benefits. It certainly is worth trying. Diane From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Bob, Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally gave it up. My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great relief. Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may even make things worse. Thanks anyway, Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dee, I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years as part of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other aspects of healing. Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for people with chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on info as to how to get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding expenses, but for me, it not only didn't work, it made a discreet problem pop out onto my face. It was a nightmare. Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to still present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my best shot. As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt.' Thanks anyway. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the liposomal Vit C? dee On 9 May 2011, at 03:35, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Diane, Yes, lecithin IS worth trying. I take 2T lecithin granules daily; have for a couple years now. I know it's good for lots of things, so I haven't given it up, despite that fact that it hasn't made a difference in my psoriasis. sigh. I think many people with psoriasis run the gamut of great, well- recommended remedies, and by trial and error, may eventually find just the right one. Most of us have spent a fortune on these over the years. I've always had a fantasy of a 'great psoriasis remedy swap', where everyone could meet and try leftovers of what hasn't worked for others. ;) I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt. Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Diane Mackey wrote: Lena, I had severe eczema, three times, as a baby, as a teen, and in my mid 20s. In my 20s, someone told me to take Lecithiin for the eczema, and I did and it work beautifully within a couple of weeks. When my elderly grandmother got a bad case of psoriasis, I gave her a bottle of lecithin and it worked well for her too, but took a bit longer. She took two caps of lecithin three times a day along with a Vitamin E capsule. In about a month it looked great. Lecithin is cheap and keeps things moist from the inside out, amongst other great benefits. It certainly is worth trying. Diane From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Bob, Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally gave it up. My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great relief. Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may even make things worse. Thanks anyway, Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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But is this liposomal C or just ordinary ascorbic acid? The liposomal C incorporates lecithin and makes the Vit C highly absorbable. dee On 9 May 2011, at 15:57, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Dee, I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years as part of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other aspects of healing. Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for people with chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on info as to how to get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding expenses, but for me, it not only didn't work, it made a discreet problem pop out onto my face. It was a nightmare. Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to still present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my best shot. As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt.' Thanks anyway. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the liposomal Vit C? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I take lecithin. I take 15 g of good vitamin C daily. I do not make liposomal C, as I haven't felt the need, and what with making my own CS, Kefir, Kombucha, distilled water, and other potions, lotions, eye drops, Mag oil sprays, as well as encapsulations of Himmy salt, C.O.T., B.S. M.S.M., Moringa, Modifilan, and what-not, I've hit my limit, especially as my use of the C I'm doing has been highly successful in reducing my Lyme. Again, My use of feverfew, gotu kola, and Fumaric acid seems to be doing the trick. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: But is this liposomal C or just ordinary ascorbic acid? The liposomal C incorporates lecithin and makes the Vit C highly absorbable. dee On 9 May 2011, at 15:57, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Dee, I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years as part of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other aspects of healing. Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for people with chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on info as to how to get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding expenses, but for me, it not only didn't work, it made a discreet problem pop out onto my face. It was a nightmare. Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to still present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my best shot. As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt.' Thanks anyway. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the liposomal Vit C? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSpsoriasis
autoimmune problem. CS alone may help to some extent, but from my observations the last couple years LDN low dose naltrexone is the thing first for any/all autoimmune issues. i've seen many reports, no failures, of varying (mostly high) success with psoriasis... -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 10:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSpsoriasis can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Lena, did you ever try LDN low dose naltrexone? it is an Rx drug, but it's an old safe studied generic that's cheap and can be purchased off-shore without an Rx. _ From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 12:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis
Hi Bob, Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally gave it up. My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great relief. Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may even make things worse. Thanks anyway, Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote: Lena, did you ever try LDN low dose naltrexone? it is an Rx drug, but it's an old safe studied generic that's cheap and can be purchased off-shore without an Rx. From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 12:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSpsoriasis
hmmm that sux that it worked in reverse for you. first neg report on LDN + psoriasis i've read... at least that i remember. did you jump in at 4.5mg or ease up gradually to some point? lots of new findings about lower dosing and finding your dose these days. i have read of oral CS working, and Brooks' topical brew looks good. glad something is going right! _ From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Bob, Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally gave it up. My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great relief. Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may even make things worse. Thanks anyway, Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote: Lena, did you ever try LDN low dose naltrexone? it is an Rx drug, but it's an old safe studied generic that's cheap and can be purchased off-shore without an Rx. _ From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 12:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I always ramp things up things very slowly. I started with 1mg. and worked up slowly to 3 or so; can't remember how long; I think it was somewhere between 2-3 months, and it was the only new thing introduced at the time. i always try things one at a time, so I'll know which variable is in play. It was 2 years ago: ancient history to a Lyme brain. Wish I could remember the name of the other person who experienced this. The only time (other than now with my present regime) that my patches dramatically shrank was when I began SC, so though it is an auto- immune thing, inflammation points always to infection, I think. Feverfew discourages the action of mast cells, which are part of the inflammatory process, and fuamric acid seems to be quieting things down a lot. Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 5:39 PM, bob Larson wrote: hmmm that sux that it worked in reverse for you. first neg report on LDN + psoriasis i've read... at least that i remember. did you jump in at 4.5mg or ease up gradually to some point? lots of new findings about lower dosing and finding your dose these days. i have read of oral CS working, and Brooks' topical brew looks good. glad something is going right! From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Bob, Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally gave it up. My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great relief. Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may even make things worse. Thanks anyway, Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote: Lena, did you ever try LDN low dose naltrexone? it is an Rx drug, but it's an old safe studied generic that's cheap and can be purchased off-shore without an Rx. From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 12:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSpsoriasis
Lena, I had severe eczema, three times, as a baby, as a teen, and in my mid 20s. In my 20s, someone told me to take Lecithiin for the eczema, and I did and it work beautifully within a couple of weeks. When my elderly grandmother got a bad case of psoriasis, I gave her a bottle of lecithin and it worked well for her too, but took a bit longer. She took two caps of lecithin three times a day along with a Vitamin E capsule. In about a month it looked great. Lecithin is cheap and keeps things moist from the inside out, amongst other great benefits. It certainly is worth trying. Diane From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Bob, Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally gave it up. My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great relief. Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may even make things worse. Thanks anyway, Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote:
Re: CSpsoriasis
Hi Diane, Yes, lecithin IS worth trying. I take 2T lecithin granules daily; have for a couple years now. I know it's good for lots of things, so I haven't given it up, despite that fact that it hasn't made a difference in my psoriasis. sigh. I think many people with psoriasis run the gamut of great, well- recommended remedies, and by trial and error, may eventually find just the right one. Most of us have spent a fortune on these over the years. I've always had a fantasy of a 'great psoriasis remedy swap', where everyone could meet and try leftovers of what hasn't worked for others. ;) I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt. Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Diane Mackey wrote: Lena, I had severe eczema, three times, as a baby, as a teen, and in my mid 20s. In my 20s, someone told me to take Lecithiin for the eczema, and I did and it work beautifully within a couple of weeks. When my elderly grandmother got a bad case of psoriasis, I gave her a bottle of lecithin and it worked well for her too, but took a bit longer. She took two caps of lecithin three times a day along with a Vitamin E capsule. In about a month it looked great. Lecithin is cheap and keeps things moist from the inside out, amongst other great benefits. It certainly is worth trying. Diane From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hi Bob, Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally gave it up. My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great relief. Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may even make things worse. Thanks anyway, Be well, Léna On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote:
Re: CSpsoriasis
Thanks Smitty. dee On 6 May 2011, at 19:46, Smitty wrote: You might look here = http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=8 Smitty ## On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks very much to all who replied. regards, dee On 6 May 2011, at 20:38, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Elizabeth, 75%CS,15%glycerine, and 10%DMSO, always adding the DMSO last, as it heats things up. I put this in 1oz roll-on bottles I got on eBay. Easier application, with no waste. I've also used 30ml roll-on perfume bottles from eBay which have smaller roll-on balls and which are a bit less runny: good for travel. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Elizabeth Williams wrote: Could you tell me the measurements of ingredients for Brook's mix? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:06:51 -0400 Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpsoriasis
can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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You might look here = http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=8 http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=8Smitty ## On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Could you tell me the measurements of ingredients for Brook's mix? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:06:51 -0400 Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Brooks Bradley Recipe for Psoriasis It is a topical . CS 75%-- DMSO 10% Glycerine 15% On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.comwrote: Could you tell me the measurements of ingredients for Brook's mix?
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Hi Elizabeth, 75%CS,15%glycerine, and 10%DMSO, always adding the DMSO last, as it heats things up. I put this in 1oz roll-on bottles I got on eBay. Easier application, with no waste. I've also used 30ml roll-on perfume bottles from eBay which have smaller roll-on balls and which are a bit less runny: good for travel. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Elizabeth Williams wrote: Could you tell me the measurements of ingredients for Brook's mix? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:06:51 -0400 Hi Dee, I had a marked diminishing of 2 of my patches: from 'continents' to clusters of small islands, since taking one Feverfew capsule a day (380mg) and applying CS, DMSO, glycerine (Brook's mix) with added gotu kola and feverfew extracts topically. The morning glory around my navel has almost disappeared. This was very encouraging, even though many of my patches stayed the same. Then, a couple weeks ago, someone told me that fumaric acid (google it) is something people with psoriasis have deficiency; that one can try one cap nightly for 10 days, and if that doesn't make substantial change, increase to 2, then 3, etc. up to 7, in increments of 10 days. After one week, some of my more stubborn patches were beginning to break up, scales were building up much less quickly, surrounding redness was fading to pink and now I'm doing 2 per night. I'm hopeful. I've tried everything and this is the first thing that seems to really work...for me. We're all different, of course. Be well, Léna On May 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this condition please? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks for that about fumaric acid. You may want to try something called Vetericyn. It is for animals, but does wonders for rosacea so it might help with psoriasis too. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks! With psoriasis, it's 'No stone unturned!' On May 6, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Shirley Reed wrote: Thanks for that about fumaric acid. You may want to try something called Vetericyn. It is for animals, but does wonders for rosacea so it might help with psoriasis too. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I must post a success story about CS and psoriasis. A young lady in her mid 40's came to me on our nursing unit with disfiguring psoriasis on her hands and elbows. She had been struggling with this for many years. Her only help was from prescription 2% Hydrocortisone cream at $125 a tube and while it kept it in check the rough hands and disfiguring appearance remained. ( Prolonged use of HC cream has systemic effects on the body especially when applied over large areas) With the very first use of CS her hands began to tingle and her skin began to feel smoother. She began using it 3-4 times per day from a spray bottle. 2-3 weeks later she came to me with wide eyed smiles and she showed me her skin. The only sign that remained was noticeably reddened skin in the areas affected but the roughness was gone and all the scales and dead skin gone too - skin that appeared to be well on the way to total healing. It takes about 6 weeks for skin to replace itself from the inside out, so I expect to see further improvement in the coming weeks. A fellow who came to me many years ago had a 1/2 centimeter spot on his scalp that has itched for many years. No prescription creams helped. He put some CS on a Q-tip and applied it. The itch left immediately and NEVER CAME BACK. Don't be afraid to offer someone who has this problem a free spray bottle of CS. It is true that there is a strong emotional component to this problem and the fact that you let them know that you noticed it may cause an initial reaction from them. BUT the benefit received will bring years of lasting comfort and gratitude. Ian Roe
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Pardon my many posts on this. To point. There seems to be a paradox between natural causes and pollution for allergies and skin problems. On one hand the pollution is the cause for a lot of concern. On the other, anti-biotic seem to be common and effective. The following things helped me survive all sorts of craziness in the community: I kept a dense negative ion environment inside. I used a lot of negative ion generators. The following anti-bacterial and anti-fungals seemed to help. Oregano and oil of Oregano and doxychlor. Pau De Arco. The smart drugs DMAE and DMG have antibiotic and anti bacterial/fungal impact. I am constantly amazed at the variety of things that work with bacteria and fungus. Finally, I like myrrh for reducing inflamation. A dot near the nose does it. It dries remarkably. It sucks up excess fluid and alters magnetism significantly. It used to be used in ancient times to chase away demons. Even skin demons. I assume it is because it nuertalized magnatism.. Michael Zangari truez2...@yahoo.com wrote: You have to realize that Hawaii, as an agricultural state is facing the same problems as say, Nebraska in terms of Ag polution. Especially on Maui. The water is heavy with fertilizers in some places, plus military and industrial wastes. The Enviromental Impact statement for say the West Coast of Oahu have been done, but are not generally available. You could check and see if there is an EPA report on your part of Maui. Hawaii is a secret cesspool as far as I'm concerned. And I love Hawaii and its people very much. The environment there needs a lot of attention. kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Special deal for Yahoo! users friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now
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psoriasis=chronic dehydration. you need fluids and electrolytes. Michael Zangari wrote: Pardon my many posts on this. To point. There seems to be a paradox between natural causes and pollution for allergies and skin problems. On one hand the pollution is the cause for a lot of concern. On the other, anti-biotic seem to be common and effective. The following things helped me survive all sorts of craziness in the community: I kept a dense negative ion environment inside. I used a lot of negative ion generators. The following anti-bacterial and anti-fungals seemed to help. Oregano and oil of Oregano and doxychlor. Pau De Arco. The smart drugs DMAE and DMG have antibiotic and anti bacterial/fungal impact. I am constantly amazed at the variety of things that work with bacteria and fungus. Finally, I like myrrh for reducing inflamation. A dot near the nose does it. It dries remarkably. It sucks up excess fluid and alters magnetism significantly. It used to be used in ancient times to chase away demons. Even skin demons. I assume it is because it nuertalized magnatism.. */Michael Zangari truez2...@yahoo.com/* wrote: You have to realize that Hawaii, as an agricultural state is facing the same problems as say, Nebraska in terms of Ag polution. Especially on Maui. The water is heavy with fertilizers in some places, plus military and industrial wastes. The Enviromental Impact statement for say the West Coast of Oahu have been done, but are not generally available. You could check and see if there is an EPA report on your part of Maui. Hawaii is a secret cesspool as far as I'm concerned. And I love Hawaii and its people very much. The environment there needs a lot of attention. */kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com/* wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari _http://zangarijournalism.com http://zangarijournalism.com/_ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari _http://zangarijournalism.com http://zangarijournalism.com/_ Special deal for Yahoo! users friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47521/*http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text3.com now
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I had Parkinson's, and I wasn't being exposed to pesticides on a regular basis or living near any farms. I guess the pesticides really make the bugs reproduce like rabbits? I think there's more information pertaining to aspartame and increased neurological diseases as well? Which would only make sense since thats what aspartame is, ant poison. Kurt Michael Zangari truez2...@yahoo.com wrote: Pesticides increase risk of Parkinsons New Kerala Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:17 AM PDT London, Mar 29: Frequent exposure to pesticides can double the risk of Parkinson's disease, scientists suggest. kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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What do you mean you "had Parkinsons". Is it gone?? Mary -- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com: -- I had Parkinson's, and I wasn't being exposed to pesticides on a regular basis or living near any farms. I guess the pesticides really make the bugs reproduce like rabbits? I think there's more information pertaining to aspartame and increased neurological diseases as well? Which would only make sense since thats what aspartame is, ant poison. Kurt Michael Zangari <truez2...@yahoo.com>wrote: Pesticides increase risk of Parkinsons New Kerala Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:17 AM PDT London, Mar 29: Frequent exposure to pesticides can double the risk of Parkinson's disease, scientists suggest. kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail sprayin g on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote:Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the bigisland of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin?I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message-From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PMTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experie nce eczema is an allergic reaction to somethingeither contacted or ingested.It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of somekind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover anallergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it(them) down.sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. --The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off -Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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So far so good! mborg...@att.net wrote: What do you mean you had Parkinsons. Is it gone?? Mary -- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com: -- I had Parkinson's, and I wasn't being exposed to pesticides on a regular basis or living near any farms. I guess the pesticides really make the bugs reproduce like rabbits? I think there's more information pertaining to aspartame and increased neurological diseases as well? Which would only make sense since thats what aspartame is, ant poison. Kurt Michael Zangari wrote: Pesticides increase risk of Parkinsons New Kerala Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:17 AM PDT London, Mar 29: Frequent exposure to pesticides can double the risk of Parkinson's disease, scientists suggest. kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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Pat wrote: If psoriasis is caused by a borrelia infection, why would drugs which suppress the immune system help so much? I think because the infection tends to be self limiting anyway, and the psoriasis is result of the body's immune system, not the actual infectoin. Marshall Pat - Original Message From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: JD Kalloco kall...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:45:30 PM Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hey JD, I sent this to someone else a little while ago, I still have to try and find the other stuff I had, which ain't easy. This is supposed to be kept a secret! Here's a little something, I had a great report I read a while ago can't seem to find it now! Of course it's always like that when you need something!! This will send you down the right path I hope: Kahofer P, Aberer E. Universitätsklinik für Dermatologie und Venerologie, Graz, Germany. The Koebner phenomenon, described by Koebner in 1876, represents the appearance of isomorphic skin lesions in uninvolved skin in patients suffering from certain skin diseases. It can be induced by different mechanical, chemical, thermal and infectious stimuli. A 48 year-old woman developed an exacerbation of a latent psoriasis as a Koebner phenomenon in a migrating erythema caused by Borrelia afzelii infection. PMID: 12444521 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] JD Kalloco kall...@gmail.com mailto:kall...@gmail.com wrote: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. I once corresponded with a man from Honduras who operated plantations/farms in South America ... Neem trees, etc. He told me about an ancient Mayan health product that is extracted from a fern called *Polypodium leucotomos. He was partners with a Spanish pharmaceutical firm that sold an extract of this fern for psoriasis. The product was called Difur in Spain. The indigenous name for this product is **Kalawalla. He sent me 2 dozen bottles of 50:1 extract in capsules back in 1996. I moved before getting the opportunity for feedback from those who I gave the product to. * Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, . Kurt Kurt ... do you have any material in regards to the psoriasis - borrelliosis connection? I'd like to check it out! best regards JDK -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47523/*http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com, No Cost.
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Michael Zangari wrote: You have to realize that Hawaii, as an agricultural state is facing the same problems as say, Nebraska in terms of Ag polution. Especially on Maui. The water is heavy with fertilizers in some places, plus military and industrial wastes. The Enviromental Impact statement for say the West Coast of Oahu have been done, but are not generally available. You could check and see if there is an EPA report on your part of Maui. Hawaii is a secret cesspool as far as I'm concerned. And I love Hawaii and its people very much. The environment there needs a lot of attention. Where would the silver pollution be coming from? Marshall */kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com/* wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari _http://zangarijournalism.com http://zangarijournalism.com/_ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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I saw the dermatologist today for a red rash on my arms and legs, and other skin problems. He said that the red rash spots are actually growths and they will never go away because the rash is the result of long hours in the sun years ago. Skin damage. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Pat wrote: If psoriasis is caused by a borrelia infection, why would drugs which suppress the immune system help so much? I think because the infection tends to be self limiting anyway, and the psoriasis is result of the body's immune system, not the actual infectoin. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Michael Zangari wrote: You have to realize that Hawaii, as an agricultural state is facing the same problems as say, Nebraska in terms of Ag polution. Marshall quizzes: Where would the silver pollution be coming from? Ummm, Ag = Agricultural ... Context!!! grin Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess Were you eating mangoes there ? Some people are allergic to the mango skins. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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no. But thanks Smitty. I've gone there twice and had the same exp both times. Never had it in the US except once when I took an herb. Had a chance to go again this yr but passed b/c the itch was so severe. Jess -Original Message- From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess Were you eating mangoes there ? Some people are allergic to the mango skins. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I cn think of a way to try to figure it out. Often allergies run in families, and I am talking about plant families. So a person who is allergic to tomatoes can also have the same reaction to other members of the nightshade family. Looking into what caused the rxn in the first place, one can then see if members of that family grow on those islands. Another thought is that the Big Island has active volcanoes, which outgasses alot of toxic stuff, sulpherous compounds, etc, that can by itself cause rxns in some people. kathryn On Mar 30, 2008, at 3:21 PM, jessie70 wrote: no. But thanks Smitty. I've gone there twice and had the same exp both times. Never had it in the US except once when I took an herb. Had a chance to go again this yr but passed b/c the itch was so severe. Jess -Original Message- From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 4:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess Were you eating mangoes there ? Some people are allergic to the mango skins. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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no. But thanks Smitty. I've gone there twice and had the same exp both times. Never had it in the US except once when I took an herb. Had a chance to go again this yr but passed b/c the itch was so severe. Jess Have you had allergy tests done ? My son was born raised here in Hawaii. He's now in his mid-40s has developed a cough. He had an allergy skin test done he's allergic to cats grass. You might get tested. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? Haven't noticed any. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You have to realize that Hawaii, as an agricultural state is facing the same problems as say, Nebraska in terms of Ag polution. Especially on Maui. The water is heavy with fertilizers in some places, plus military and industrial wastes. The Enviromental Impact statement for say the West Coast of Oahu have been done, but are not generally available. You could check and see if there is an EPA report on your part of Maui. Hawaii is a secret cesspool as far as I'm concerned. And I love Hawaii and its people very much. The environment there needs a lot of attention. kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
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I lived in Hawaii for ten years, woking on O'ahu. Skin allergies are common. Some very bizzare types. There are warts that are incredibly contagious.(Antiboiotics are effective.) As far as the air born, asthma is one of the most common ailments. People die in the emergency rooms from asthma attacks there. Tradition emergency methods are not alays effective. kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for Yahoo! users and friends.
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Pesticides increase risk of Parkinsons New Kerala Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:17 AM PDT London, Mar 29: Frequent exposure to pesticides can double the risk of Parkinson's disease, scientists suggest. kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Notice any difference in the chemtrail spraying on each of the islands?? I could see why Maui, being more populus would be getting hit more frequently due to having more population, but I don't think there are alot of people on the big island??? I do remember they were scheduling a depleted uranium burn for the big island though. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Speaking of skin allergies, does anyone know what is growing on the big island of Hawaii and Maui that could cause itchy skin? I got a terrible face itch there but not on Kauaii. Thx. Jess -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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What part of the immune system are they surpressing?? I have no idea what the mad-scientists have cooked up in thier labs pertaing to the drug they use to treat. I do know that for people without psoriasis thier skin is on a much slower cycle for reproducing, I think every 28 days. With psoriasis, it's like every 4 days or so, something like that anyway. So it must have something to do with slowing the rate at which that occurs?? In the mean time, letting the spirochetes probably multiply out of control killing you faster, which is what nazi medicine is all about. Kurt Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: If psoriasis is caused by a borrelia infection, why would drugs which suppress the immune system help so much? Pat - Original Message From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: JD Kalloco kall...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:45:30 PM Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hey JD, I sent this to someone else a little while ago, I still have to try and find the other stuff I had, which ain't easy. This is supposed to be kept a secret! Here's a little something, I had a great report I read a while ago can't seem to find it now! Of course it's always like that when you need something!! This will send you down the right path I hope: Kahofer P, Aberer E. Universitätsklinik für Dermatologie und Venerologie, Graz, Germany. The Koebner phenomenon, described by Koebner in 1876, represents the appearance of isomorphic skin lesions in uninvolved skin in patients suffering from certain skin diseases. It can be induced by different mechanical, chemical, thermal and infectious stimuli. A 48 year-old woman developed an exacerbation of a latent psoriasis as a Koebner phenomenon in a migrating erythema caused by Borrelia afzelii infection. PMID: 12444521 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] JD Kalloco kall...@gmail.com wrote: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. I once corresponded with a man from Honduras who operated plantations/farms in South America ... Neem trees, etc. He told me about an ancient Mayan health product that is extracted from a fern called *Polypodium leucotomos. He was partners with a Spanish pharmaceutical firm that sold an extract of this fern for psoriasis. The product was called Difur in Spain. The indigenous name for this product is **Kalawalla. He sent me 2 dozen bottles of 50:1 extract in capsules back in 1996. I moved before getting the opportunity for feedback from those who I gave the product to. * Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, . Kurt Kurt ... do you have any material in regards to the psoriasis - borrelliosis connection? I'd like to check it out! best regards JDK -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
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In my personal experience eczema is an allergic reaction to something either contacted or ingested. It is fashionable to believe all skin reactions are detoxing of some kind, but I don't think so. Most people eventually can discover an allergen if they take the time to do the work required to track it (them) down. sol faith gagne wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. Pat Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, of course the quack wont let you in on that. CS, good salt and vitamin c along with some good probiotics should help. He has to kill of the spirochetes which are the root of the problem. Sunshine and salt water including epsom salt baths will help along the way. Stay away from the drugs that mess with the immune system. Kurt Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. Pat Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I am from Washington state, my husband had a bad case of psoriasis, we went to Soap Lake Washington, eastern washington. He was cured by taking just 3 baths, this was 2 yrs ago, and the psoriasis has not returned. Mary -- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com: -- Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, of course the quack wont let you in on that. CS, good salt and vitamin c along with some good probiotics should help. He has to kill of the spirochetes which are the root of the problem. Sunshine and salt water including epsom salt baths will help along the way. Stay away from the drugs that mess with the immune system. Kurt Patwrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cance r. Pat Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, of course the quack wont let you in on that. CS, good salt and vitamin c along with some good probiotics should help. He has to kill of the spirochetes which are the root of the problem. Sunshine and salt water including epsom salt baths will help along the way. Stay away from the drugs that mess with the immune system. Kurt Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. Pat Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Don't know don't have eczema. You could give it a whirl though. Kurt faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, of course the quack wont let you in on that. CS, good salt and vitamin c along with some good probiotics should help. He has to kill of the spirochetes which are the root of the problem. Sunshine and salt water including epsom salt baths will help along the way. Stay away from the drugs that mess with the immune system. Kurt Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. Pat Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dug this up for treating eczema: Some Common Uses of Colloidal Silver. . . Natural health practitioners have for years recommended taking one tablespoon daily, for four days, to establish a level, then one half tablespoon daily for maintenance (proportional to body weight for children). After six weeks, a pause of several weeks has also been recommended by some natural healing arts doctors. Also, colloidal silver can be applied directly to burns, cuts, scrapes, and open sores, or on a bandage for warts. It can be applied on eczema, itches, acne, sunburns or bug bites. To purify water, add one tablespoon per gallon, shake well and wait six minutes. Mixed this way, it is tasteless. It is not an allopathic poison. faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: Does your remedy apply to eczema also? thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, of course the quack wont let you in on that. CS, good salt and vitamin c along with some good probiotics should help. He has to kill of the spirochetes which are the root of the problem. Sunshine and salt water including epsom salt baths will help along the way. Stay away from the drugs that mess with the immune system. Kurt Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. Pat Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I Googled borrelliosis (also borreliosis) and it came up with Lyme disease. Is this right? I found no other info. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California aera...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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It's a part of lyme, the spirochete is a spiral shaped bacteria, like that of syphilis. Actually has more than a spiral shape as it's a pleomorph [shape shifter] The most talked about borrelia spirochet is Burgdorferi from the lyme perspective. But there are lots more, Afzelii, Garinii Treponema Palidum [syphilis] etc. I know peolle want to think it comes from a tick and thats true along with other vectors. The first place you get it is from your mom, usually, and then it's given out in a vaccination. Kurt Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com wrote: I Googled borrelliosis (also borreliosis) and it came up with Lyme disease. Is this right? I found no other info. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California aera...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:24 AM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis? Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. I once corresponded with a man from Honduras who operated plantations/farms in South America ... Neem trees, etc. He told me about an ancient Mayan health product that is extracted from a fern called *Polypodium leucotomos. He was partners with a Spanish pharmaceutical firm that sold an extract of this fern for psoriasis. The product was called Difur in Spain. The indigenous name for this product is **Kalawalla. He sent me 2 dozen bottles of 50:1 extract in capsules back in 1996. I moved before getting the opportunity for feedback from those who I gave the product to. * Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, . Kurt Kurt ... do you have any material in regards to the psoriasis - borrelliosis connection? I'd like to check it out! best regards JDK
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Hey JD, I sent this to someone else a little while ago, I still have to try and find the other stuff I had, which ain't easy. This is supposed to be kept a secret! Here's a little something, I had a great report I read a while ago can't seem to find it now! Of course it's always like that when you need something!! This will send you down the right path I hope: Kahofer P, Aberer E. Universitätsklinik für Dermatologie und Venerologie, Graz, Germany. The Koebner phenomenon, described by Koebner in 1876, represents the appearance of isomorphic skin lesions in uninvolved skin in patients suffering from certain skin diseases. It can be induced by different mechanical, chemical, thermal and infectious stimuli. A 48 year-old woman developed an exacerbation of a latent psoriasis as a Koebner phenomenon in a migrating erythema caused by Borrelia afzelii infection. PMID: 12444521 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] JD Kalloco kall...@gmail.com wrote: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. I once corresponded with a man from Honduras who operated plantations/farms in South America ... Neem trees, etc. He told me about an ancient Mayan health product that is extracted from a fern called *Polypodium leucotomos. He was partners with a Spanish pharmaceutical firm that sold an extract of this fern for psoriasis. The product was called Difur in Spain. The indigenous name for this product is **Kalawalla. He sent me 2 dozen bottles of 50:1 extract in capsules back in 1996. I moved before getting the opportunity for feedback from those who I gave the product to. * Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, . Kurt Kurt ... do you have any material in regards to the psoriasis - borrelliosis connection? I'd like to check it out! best regards JDK -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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If psoriasis is caused by a borrelia infection, why would drugs which suppress the immune system help so much? Pat - Original Message From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: JD Kalloco kall...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:45:30 PM Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis Hey JD, I sent this to someone else a little while ago, I still have to try and find the other stuff I had, which ain't easy. This is supposed to be kept a secret! Here's a little something, I had a great report I read a while ago can't seem to find it now! Of course it's always like that when you need something!! This will send you down the right path I hope: Kahofer P, Aberer E. Universitätsklinik für Dermatologie und Venerologie, Graz, Germany. The Koebner phenomenon, described by Koebner in 1876, represents the appearance of isomorphic skin lesions in uninvolved skin in patients suffering from certain skin diseases. It can be induced by different mechanical, chemical, thermal and infectious stimuli. A 48 year-old woman developed an exacerbation of a latent psoriasis as a Koebner phenomenon in a migrating erythema caused by Borrelia afzelii infection. PMID: 12444521 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] JD Kalloco kall...@gmail.com wrote: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone found natural help for psoriasis, an autoimmune disease? A twenty-something year old friend of my son is taking a drug which costs a fortune, more than he makes in a month (luckily he has insurance). It blocks part of the immune system. That leaves him open to illness and possibly cancer. I once corresponded with a man from Honduras who operated plantations/farms in South America ... Neem trees, etc. He told me about an ancient Mayan health product that is extracted from a fern called *Polypodium leucotomos. He was partners with a Spanish pharmaceutical firm that sold an extract of this fern for psoriasis. The product was called Difur in Spain. The indigenous name for this product is **Kalawalla. He sent me 2 dozen bottles of 50:1 extract in capsules back in 1996. I moved before getting the opportunity for feedback from those who I gave the product to. * Psoriasis is caused by borrelliosis, . Kurt Kurt ... do you have any material in regards to the psoriasis - borrelliosis connection? I'd like to check it out! best regards JDK -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Re: CSpsoriasis .. and other skin troubles maybe?
In my experience very much better. Dan kskiefe...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/25/2006 3:24:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, na...@comcast.net writes: Put a napkin, paper towel, or clean cloth over the area and saturate with CS. Keep it wet. Leave on as long as it can be tolerated. Spraying should help, but keeping it wet with CS would be better. Works for burns. What is sunburn if not a burn?... does it work better than white vinegar? Karen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.4/351 - Release Date: 5/29/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Can't help on the whereabouts of Mike Monnet. I was interested to hear of his higher CS ppm remedy for psoriasis. I know what a terrible problem this is, and want to report on the results I am getting as it might help someone. Although I have been making, taking, and applying CS, I haven't had that much resolve with my little patch of psoriasis. But I recently started using Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) externally applied - three to four drops directly. This helped greatly. But, something amazing happened, what seemed like overnight, when I added Salt/C to my daily routine. It is disappearing. True I only have a little patch, but I have been attempting to get rid of this for well over 10 years. I add 1/4 tsp. Himalayan Sea Salt to 1/4 tsp. (1g) Crystalline C (as in Ascorbic Acid) to 16 oz. of water. Plus, I add a couple tablespoons of Pomegranate Concentrate. Voila! It is finally going away, and I am seeing fresh new unadulterated skin.Oh, plus, the Salt/C will clear spirochetes from the blood and tissues of the body as your body absorbs it. The salt dessicates them. For those of you concerned about blood pressure and salt, this is Himalayan (natural mineral content) NOT table salt. Reports are that it actually reduces blood pressure. Hope that helps someone! Sasha Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis questions Hi Mike, let's not forget Mike Monnet who did a lot of work along these lines, including development of higher ppm CS generators, use against molds and fungal allergies as well as psoriasis. Take care, Malcolm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Mike, let's not forget Mike Monnet who did a lot of work along these lines, including development of higher ppm CS generators, use against molds and fungal allergies as well as psoriasis. Take care, Malcolm At 12:19 PM 5/22/06 +00-05, you wrote: Excellent, Marshall. That's the first positive report I've seen on that condition. How did he apply it? How extensive was his psoriasis? Be well, Mike I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 5/25/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 5/25/06
CSpsoriasis .. and other skin troubles maybe?
Hi Friends! I have posted this message before .. in different wrappings .. NO answer of any kind received. When we think of psoriasis, could it then be that skin irritation, red, itchy pimples by 32/32 degrees C from our tropical sun, (young kid, under a year, suffering already for weeks) can be un-done be spraying CS on shoulders and back? I write for the parents, and we could do them a great favour. Thank you, Faith _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis .. and other skin troubles maybe?
Your post is a bit confusing, but if you mean sunburn, it should work fine for that. (And it shouldn't hurt for the other thing.) Put a napkin, paper towel, or clean cloth over the area and saturate with CS. Keep it wet. Leave on as long as it can be tolerated. Spraying should help, but keeping it wet with CS would be better. Works for burns. What is sunburn if not a burn?... Dan Faith Saint Francis wrote: Hi Friends! I have posted this message before .. in different wrappings .. NO answer of any kind received. When we think of psoriasis, could it then be that skin irritation, red, itchy pimples by 32/32 degrees C from our tropical sun, (young kid, under a year, suffering already for weeks) can be un-done be spraying CS on shoulders and back? I write for the parents, and we could do them a great favour. Thank you, Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have a co-worker who was very leery of CS until I gave him some to use on his old dog who had infections in the ears, eye and jaw. Worked well in the ears, but the other infections will take time. He was about to have the dog put down. It had gone blind in one eye and deaf from the long running infections. It also got run over once because it was deaf. Apparently, the vet couldn't come up with anything that worked. Now he says the dog is out jumping up and down in the yard, something it hasn't done for a year. Now he is pretty impressed. Anyway, the reason I wrote this as a reply on this post is that he happened to spray some CS on a few outbreaks of poison ivy he had on his arm. He says that it stopped the itch and it didn't spread as he would have expected it to from his past experience. (I gave some CS to someone with eczema and it didn't work for him...) Dan Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Mike, let's not forget Mike Monnet who did a lot of work along these lines, including development of higher ppm CS generators, use against molds and fungal allergies as well as psoriasis. Take care, Malcolm At 12:19 PM 5/22/06 +00-05, you wrote: Excellent, Marshall. That's the first positive report I've seen on that condition. How did he apply it? How extensive was his psoriasis? Be well, Mike I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 5/25/06
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Hi Malcolm, Strange that you mention Mike Monnet as I was just thinking about him regarding the tragic loss of the archives of our list. He is a very competent engineer who I had also known from the group sci.electronics.design. He became a member of the only ions are of any use - particles are useless faction and had many a entertaining joust with the leader of the ions are useless - only particles matter, Frank Key. The last post of his that I remember was in relation to his various allergies and went something along the lines of I need to get out my apartment and get some exercise. He seems to have dropped off my radar since then. If anyone knows his contact info, I would appreciate them asking him to contact me. I know that his regard for me as a fellow design engineer is valid and I would just like to know how he is doing. I also have some projects that I could use some help on. I know, I am supposed to be retired but just as in the Godfather movie, they draw me back in. Best Regards, Arnold Beland - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:24 PM Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis questions Hi Mike, let's not forget Mike Monnet who did a lot of work along these lines, including development of higher ppm CS generators, use against molds and fungal allergies as well as psoriasis. Take care, Malcolm At 12:19 PM 5/22/06 +00-05, you wrote: Excellent, Marshall. That's the first positive report I've seen on that condition. How did he apply it? How extensive was his psoriasis? Be well, Mike I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 5/25/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 5/25/06 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/347 - Release Date: 5/24/2006
Re: CSPsoriasis questions
Excellent, Marshall. That's the first positive report I've seen on that condition. How did he apply it? How extensive was his psoriasis? Be well, Mike I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSPsoriasis questions
I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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It was on his arm, and pretty bad. I gave him a bottle of EIS, and he reported back a few days later that his psoriasis was completely gone. But I am not sure if it stayed gone, since he never got back to me to ask for any more. I think he applied it topically, but that was about 7 years ago. Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Excellent, Marshall. That's the first positive report I've seen on that condition. How did he apply it? How extensive was his psoriasis? Be well, Mike I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
RE: CSPsoriasis questions
Do you have any sense of which of the two primary attributes of silver; germicidal, or the ability facilitating changes in electrical conditions that speed healing were mainly responsible? -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis questions It was on his arm, and pretty bad. I gave him a bottle of EIS, and he reported back a few days later that his psoriasis was completely gone. But I am not sure if it stayed gone, since he never got back to me to ask for any more. I think he applied it topically, but that was about 7 years ago. Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Excellent, Marshall. That's the first positive report I've seen on that condition. How did he apply it? How extensive was his psoriasis? Be well, Mike I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSPsoriasis questions
Sorry, don't have any idea. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Do you have any sense of which of the two primary attributes of silver; germicidal, or the ability facilitating changes in electrical conditions that speed healing were mainly responsible? -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPsoriasis questions It was on his arm, and pretty bad. I gave him a bottle of EIS, and he reported back a few days later that his psoriasis was completely gone. But I am not sure if it stayed gone, since he never got back to me to ask for any more. I think he applied it topically, but that was about 7 years ago. Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Excellent, Marshall. That's the first positive report I've seen on that condition. How did he apply it? How extensive was his psoriasis? Be well, Mike I had a fellow who had has Psoriasis for 35 years, and tried using EIS directly on it and found it complelete cleared it up for the first time since the mid 60's. His was initially chemically induced by agent orange if that makes a difference. Marshall Heather King (LCA) wrote: Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSPsoriasis questions
Dear Heather, My Mother had one of the worst cases of psoriasis on record. She would have lesions covering a large fraction of her entire body at any given time. She was always miserable with the itching and flaking and embarassed to go anywhere. She was mentally unbalanced in a number of ways. The psoriasis contributed a lot to her problems. All the conventional treatments did nothing that lasted. The most we ever found to do for her was baby oil to keep the leasions from getting too crusty. It helped with the itching a little bit. sigh We had one member some years back who tried CS for his psoriasis. He reported some initial improvement but we never heard back from him after the first couple of weeks, if I remember correctly, so we don't know if there was any long term results. If it had continued to improve I expect we'd have heard from him. If I were addressing psoriasis today, CS would certainly be one thing to try, but I suspect that you'd want to look into a lot of other things as well. In addition to oral intake, it would probably be worth experimenting with CS on gause pads, kept moist for lengthy periods of time, possibly with DMSO added, on the off chance there's a pathogen associated with the disease that can be gotten at through the skin. My gut tells me that it's a systemic thing that's more likely to respond to systemic measures, such as Gerson Therapy or other modalities that focus on nutrition, environmental toxicity, and cleansing the body of toxins. References to Gerson Therapy mention psoriasis as one of the many conditions that have responded. Google search on 'psoriasis max gerson'. There are references to vitamin C, lecithin, dietary oils, various other vitamins and minerals in relation to psoriatic skin conditions, so it might be addressable as a deficiency disease, with supplementation, juicing, and a fresh, raw, organic diet. A couple of pages on the doctoryourself.com website talk about this. Another area to look into will be immune reactivity to mercury or other toxic heavy metals found in industry, food, household products, and dental materials, among other sources. Consider having mercury fillings and other inappropriate materials properly removed and replaced at a properly equipped and experienced clinic. Learn about dental revision from Dr. Hal Huggins, at drhuggins.com. I'm sure there are tons of other things to consider. I often wonder if I could have helped my mom if I knew then some of what I know now. Let us know if you learn anything more. I would love to hear a report on anything your husband's coworker tries. Be well, Mike D. Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPsoriasis questions
Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com