[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Arvid Björn
Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:44
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: License to END if you migrate?!
Excuse me, but THIS IS BULLSHIT:
Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at the
end of the transition
I totally agree Arvid. I know I will need to revisit old scenes and
projects, and this totally shoots us in the foot/ head.
This is a completely unacceptable move on the part of AD.
Let us keep our old licenses, AND migrate. What harm is there in keeping
the old licenses around?
On Tue, Mar 4,
Completely agreed, its the worst possible decision. Why the hell would you
they be bothered about an old discontinued software licence hanging around?
Its making cancelling subscription a highly likely option. Way to lose your
customers Autodesk.
On 4 March 2014 17:50, Adam Sale
I am sorry but I'm with Arvid - this is complete rubbish.
In my opinion _NO_ company can agree to this - we definitely need the
ability to re-open old job data in the future.
Discontinuing Softimage is hard enough to swallow (especially as it gets
announced with the quite cynical claim that they
That's a decision-maker right there.
On 4 March 2014 18:00, Matt Morris matt...@gmail.com wrote:
Completely agreed, its the worst possible decision. Why the hell would you
they be bothered about an old discontinued software licence hanging around?
Its making cancelling subscription a highly
My translation of it:
*If you want to use Softimage after the transition period, stop paying the
Subscription. If you also want to continue using Max or Maya that you have
had the pleasure to try for free for two years, you are welcome to buy a
license. Thank you for being a Autodesk Customer. Now
I agree. I have to go back to jobs I didn't 3+ years ago sometimes if a client
calls up. In two years I need the ability to open up and make changes to the
jobs I will be doing over the next 6 months as we transition.
On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Arvid Björn arvidbj...@gmail.com wrote:
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you a
product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of support
for it.
Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course.
On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel krisri...@gmail.com wrote:
Ha...I read too
To me, the Either/Or thing stikes me as proof of relative sociopathic
philosophy.
On 03/04/14 13:47, Peter Agg wrote:
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell
you a product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level
of support for it.
Doesn't make it
pronounce the name.
*From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Arvid Björn
*Sent:* 4 mars 2014 12:44
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* License to END if you migrate?!
Excuse me, but THIS IS BULLSHIT
IANL, but it seems to me that there are 2 workarounds that AD can do
nothing to really enforce.
A. use a crack (you may be surprised that such things exist, but they do!
;-) )
B. use an older version of both Softimage and License Manager like, say,
2013 SAP, maybe even 2014.
Smarter people than
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* License to END if you migrate?!
Excuse me, but THIS IS BULLSHIT:
/Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will
terminate at the end of the transition period if you are still
Sorry I the last two bullets came out a bit garbled:
Should be
- You can keep using the license you have in perpetuity, either by itself
or augmented by other non-Autodesk software, a lot of which was discussed
elsewhere
- Migrate to the Transition Bundle - this is a single
Maurice --
Can we transition some seats to Maya and some to Max? or must we pick one
for all?
Thanks for the clarification. But I'm a solo artist with one license and
lots of client scenes which I need to open on occasion for updates. It
sounds like my only option would be to buy a full-price license of Maya
if I eventually want to transition to that and still be able to open old
] On Behalf Of Ed Manning
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:21 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
Maurice --
Can we transition some seats to Maya and some to Max? or must we pick one for
all?
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I honestly don't see why we couldn't just have the frozen Softimage version
be included in the Maya/Max license after migrating, I'm forced to decimate
my total number of seats in order to retain access to my Softimage
projects, you're forcing everyone to buy new seats, to cover for the ones
you
Yes it adds quite a bit of insult to injury doesn't it?
That's why I don't buy all of the additional We want to serve our
customers better or It was a difficult decision.
Bite me AD.
Eric
Freelance 3D and VFX animator
http://vimeopro.com/mybudoinc/animation
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM,
Shall we group together and sue?
On 4 Mar 2014, at 19:33, Eric Lampi ericla...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes it adds quite a bit of insult to injury doesn't it?
That's why I don't buy all of the additional We want to serve our customers
better or It was a difficult decision.
Bite me AD.
I definitely feel cheated and lied too by a major corporation and its
managers
On 4 Mar 2014 19:37, Paul p...@bustykelp.com wrote:
Shall we group together and sue?
On 4 Mar 2014, at 19:33, Eric Lampi ericla...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes it adds quite a bit of insult to injury doesn't it?
That's
Also in cases like these does litigation take into account potential lost
earnings? As the choice offered so far Is much less than we had before they
discontined. Anybody know any corporate class action lawyers to approach?
On 4 Mar 2014 19:41, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote:
I
I doubt you'd be able to do anything class action (though I'm not a lawyer,
so what do I know). But I do think if enough people contacted their
government representative about Autodesk's anti-competitive movement /
monopolistic behavior, you'd see something happen.
Autodesk is what Microsoft
like we could trust our own various crooked governments to sort this
particular piece of greed bullshit out. HAHAHA..
a small example. are Strands going to be ready in Maya by 2016? or is Max
that gets this small nugget of Softimage legacy uniqueness. An ICE plugin
perhaps?
is there a list made
Or is Maya going to get its pass system as reliable as Softimage's? or Max
a decent Object lister as good as Softimage explorer, same thing for maya?
Those are just 2 small examples...not even getting to ICE or whatever
Bifrost is going to be in 5 years from now...
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:28
Oh you can't trust them, but if there's one thing politicians love to do is
grandstand. Calling executives out and bullying them in front of TV
cameras is one of their favorite things to do.
ADSK certainly seems to be very monopolistic in it's behavior...
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Rob
@Maurice: Right now I'm on a 3ds Max Entertainemnt Creation Suite Premium
license, wich as I understand it, will be upgraded to a Ultimate Suite.
Am I supposed to not renew my subscription if I want to keep using
Softimage, and loose all Autodesk software, and then buy a new fucking
Suite Ultimate
Lindgren
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:41 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
@Maurice: Right now I'm on a 3ds Max Entertainemnt Creation Suite Premium
license, wich as I understand it, will be upgraded to a Ultimate Suite.
Am I supposed
, 2014 4:16 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
@Maurice: Yeah but you have to agree that it sounds insane for me to give up my
3ds Max, Mudbox, Motionbuilder license, and then a buy a new one for full
retail price, just to be able to open old
Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:41 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Arvid Björn
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:26 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
I honestly don't see why we couldn't just have the frozen Softimage version
be included in the Maya/Max license
04, 2014 4:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
Well, there is another way. You could do what Adobe did with CS2 a few month
ago.
On 04/03/14 22:23, Maurice Patel wrote:
Yes I do, but unfortunately that is the way it has to be if we want
.
Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Adam Sale
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:53 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: License to END if you migrate?!
Maurice
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Peter Agg
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:47 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you
a product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of
support for it.
Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course.
On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel
@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you
a product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of
support for it.
Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course.
On 4
...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Peter Agg
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:47 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you
; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
Interesting, so with this logic, Carbine Games who are locked into Softimage
for at least 5 hopefully 10 years, will have to repurchase their entire
pipeline in max or maya...
Animal Logic who have 2 new Lego films green lit
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you
a product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of
support for it.
Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course.
On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel
-7134
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Peter Agg
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:47 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself
...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:41 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
@Maurice: Right now I'm on a 3ds Max Entertainemnt Creation Suite
Premium
: License to END if you migrate?!
I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell
you a product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of
support for it.
Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course.
On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel krisri
By putting money into Blender projects instead of Autodesk Subs you can build
the application you want.
From: Alan Fregtman [alan.fregt...@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 March 2014 08:17 AM
To: XSI Mailing List
Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
Blender? :p
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