Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Eric Lampi
;>> Yep. I consider the 100 EURO / day as a it’s-just-1 cent-above-to-say-no >>> rate…but I was told it’s way above the average, so it was funny. Especially >>> knowing that how much the client charges for the models I made :D >>> >>> ** ** >&g

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Stephen Davidson
** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Octavian Ureche >>> *Sent:* Monday, Novemb

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Octavian Ureche
9, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Szabolcs Matefy wrote: >> >>> Yep. I consider the 100 EURO / day as a it’s-just-1 cent-above-to-say-no >>> rate…but I was told it’s way above the average, so it was funny. Especially >>> knowing that how much the client charges for the models I made :D**** >>> >>

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Daniel H
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Octavian Ureche >> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 1:34 PM >> >> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> *Subject:* Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling >> >> ** ** >> >> Yap, forgot about tax expe

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Stephen Davidson
;> experience, but i presume it's the same >> >> everywhere else. Numbers vary, but the theory stays the same. >> >> ** ** >> >> Peace, >> >> O >> >> ** ** >> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Szabo

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Byron Nash
> ** ** > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Octavian Ureche > *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 1:34 PM > > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: Semi OT : Charging the modell

RE: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Szabolcs Matefy
image-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Octavian Ureche Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:34 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling Yap, forgot about tax expenses (they changed the legislation here a couple of years ago, and now they roa

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Octavian Ureche
re were times, when I was told I >> am fairly expensive with my 100Euros (without VAT) rate per day...And I'm >> in Eastern Europe as well, and the statement was made by a company in the >> UK. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> Szabolcs >> >> -Orig

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread olivier jeannel
:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:41 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: Semi OT : Charg

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Octavian Ureche
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:41 PM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling > > Thank&#x

RE: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-19 Thread Szabolcs Matefy
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:41 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling Thank's Tim :) Pretty precize :D Le 17/11/2012 16:06, Tim L

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-17 Thread olivier jeannel
Thank's Tim :) Pretty precize :D Le 17/11/2012 16:06, Tim Leydecker a écrit : Given you´re mail account, you´re based in France. That´s EU territory. 19% VAT. I guess remote work, home office. Your own equipment, hardware and software. Your own hours plus the above overhead. You guess it

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-17 Thread Tim Leydecker
Given you´re mail account, you´re based in France. That´s EU territory. 19% VAT. I guess remote work, home office. Your own equipment, hardware and software. Your own hours plus the above overhead. You guess it would take you 4-5 days to complete the task. Adding 3 revision steps to that mea

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-17 Thread olivier jeannel
Ah thank's, that helps. Well, the clients seems rather "new" in the 3d field. (nothing like Lionsgate, or big studio) So I'm not sure how they'll react to the range of price. Thank's a lot for your examples :) Le 17/11/2012 14:58, Octavian Ureche a écrit : I remember doing a commercial for

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-17 Thread Octavian Ureche
PS. the horse was fairly realistic and had a lot of zbrush love put into it. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Octavian Ureche wrote: > I remember doing a commercial for a studio here (eastern europe), > and we outsourced a horse model to a friend of mine who now happens to > work at lionhead. P

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-17 Thread Octavian Ureche
I remember doing a commercial for a studio here (eastern europe), and we outsourced a horse model to a friend of mine who now happens to work at lionhead. Point was, it took him 3 days, i recall, to do it, and it cost 1000 euros. And that was 4 or 5 years ago, and it wasn't considered that expensiv

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-17 Thread olivier jeannel
Ok Thank you ! So, 400$ * 4 or 5 days for 1 character is not over-priced according to you ? Le 16/11/2012 22:47, Stephen Davidson a écrit : I would then price it per day. 8 hour days. I charge approx. $400/day (314.2924 euros) On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM, olivier jeannel mailto:olivier.j

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-16 Thread Stephen Davidson
I would then price it per day. 8 hour days. I charge approx. $400/day (314.2924 euros) On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: > I won't be able to be that precise, as I usualy don't count in hours. > Thus I think for modelling a 1 character 4 or 5 days is a maximum. > > But, re

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-16 Thread olivier jeannel
I won't be able to be that precise, as I usualy don't count in hours. Thus I think for modelling a 1 character 4 or 5 days is a maximum. But, really I'd like someone to give me a price example. are you usually speaking in hundreds or thousands of euros ? I don't really know... Le 16/11/201

Re: Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-16 Thread Stephen Davidson
I always estimate per hour. I have found that I can be quite accurate with an hourly estimate by breaking down the modeling to it's most basic components. For example, on a character model, how long to model each eye. How long to model basic body shape. How long to model hands, face, expressions (i

Semi OT : Charging the modelling

2012-11-16 Thread olivier jeannel
Hi guys, Now that I'm starting enjoying playing with Ice and particle stuff, clients are asking for ...modelling job ^^ I realize I never charged separatly for this task alone. So my question is how much do you (freelance, homeworkers) charge for 1 character modeling ? (How much do you keep