UFGS spec section 21 13 00.00 40 vs 21 13 13

2021-12-21 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
Am I right in thinking that one should edit 21 13 00.00 40 for the piping leading into the fire riser room and delete the references to the sprinkler system (and any other unused interior piping) and specify the sprinkler system from the riser into the occupied space(s) using 21 13 13?

Re: Material cost - best practice for a Corps of Engineer Project

2021-12-02 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
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Material cost - best practice for a Corps of Engineer Project

2021-12-02 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
Having sprinkler contractors reprice an Air Force housing project we are working on. The RFP is a steel only job (tried to get approval for CPVC but no go). What are you seeing for materials that provide some cost control… Sch 7, galv thin wall, ?? David Toshio Williams, PE*, FPE – Lead MEP/FP

Re: FA not sprinkler question

2021-09-18 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
no plans reviewer is going to count on a spk contractor getting out their checkbook. Best. Bruce Verhei > On 09/17/2021 2:30 PM David Williams via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > > I’ve been asked to look at a new industrial building, generally unoccupied > except for servicin

FA not sprinkler question

2021-09-17 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
I’ve been asked to look at a new industrial building, generally unoccupied except for servicing, that has a fire and gas detection system and audible and visual notification devices. At this point I’m not sure this facility actually requires a FA system, as it might just be an owner

RE: Fire Pumps and fire apparatus

2021-09-15 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
We do a fair amount of design at an Air National Guard base that has a HP fire line to service various hangers and the associated AFFF systems. This system was installed before my time, but it does have a few hydrants on the system, I think mainly for flow testing as the system expands. I will

Re: Transfer Switches

2021-08-27 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
Or you “shed” the refrigeration from the generator sizing during a fire event. That much ice cream will stay cold for the period of time the fire pump needs the power. David Toshio Williams, PE*, FPE (*Registered in MN, WI, MI, IA, IL, IN, ND, VT) (218) 279-2436 direct | (218) 310-2446 cell

fire protection of Transformer yard "under" parking ramp

2021-06-18 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
We have a transformer yard at grade that is located under an multistory open parking structure. We caught it in time to have FR3 oil supplied in the non-FM utility company transformers and we believe we have the proper separation distances according to FM 5-4. We have 5 feet from

Re: Hollow Core Concrete Seismic Braces

2021-06-18 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
Many times there is a topping slab that can cover a through bolt and backing plate, or the precaster “could” install embedments. Takes lots of coordination! I like to spec embedments in parking ramp decks for the mains as it is such a corrosive environment and I can’t count on SS drill in

Re: Location of hydrant valves in CA.

2021-05-07 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
member of the NFPA Installation of Private Fire Service Mains and their Appurtenances Committee in accordance with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore not be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the NFPA or its Committees On 5/7/2021 8:21 AM, David Wi

Location of hydrant valves in CA.

2021-05-07 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
A civil engineer friend of mine is working on a state project in California and there is a fight between the water purveyor and the state fire marshal as to the location of the hydrant valves. The water purveyor wants the valves to be right off the main and does not feel a need to keep the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fire Pump Sprk & Fire Flow Demand

2021-04-21 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
I had a high school project about ten years ago on a green field site and we had access to a small high pressure low volume system and a low pressure low volume system. We ended up using the high pressure system to feed the domestic water and sprinkler (not the standpipes) system but the City

Re: Metal Mesh Ceiling tile replacement

2021-03-04 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
. Thanks, Skyler Bilbo 1700 S. Raney Street Effingham, IL 62401 217-819-6404 Direct 217-347-7315 Fax sbi...@wenteplumbing.com www.wenteplumbing.com<http://www.wenteplumbing.com> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:54 AM David Williams via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>

Metal Mesh Ceiling tile replacement

2021-03-04 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
We have a community college client that wants to replace standard ACT with a perforated metal mesh tile that is 60% open. My assumption is that change would require installation of heads above the ceiling in the area of the metal mesh, perhaps putting a bulkhead around the area with the mesh

Tyco LFP - antifreeze

2021-02-10 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
Hey Scott and other cold weather practitioners in Fire Protection. Any feed back on the “new” Tyco LFP antifreeze. Looks like it may have some use in southern MN locations, but with Duluth at annual 99% extreme of -24.9 and 50 year extreme at -36.6 maybe not such a good idea yet. We plan on

Re: STANDPIPES NFPA 14

2020-08-07 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
That’s funny as I have in design right now an exterior standpipe that has a wrap-around stairway so that the landings are separated both horizontally and vertically by a substantial amount as the stair wraps around the end of the building. So both types of standpipes in one! Due to the

Re: 13R and Well Pump?

2020-07-21 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
In Minnesota there are State Fire Marshal rules that allow rural sites to use the domestic well as a fire sprinkler source. They do put some testing requirements in place, minimum well bore size, and minimum flow criteria. I have not recommended this solution as I feel there is a risk of the

Re: Curbs for Containment

2020-04-09 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
I was just looking at this issue for a turbine floor FP installation: FM data sheet 7-83 has some guidance on the spill control and drainage sizing for flammable liquid areas.. David Toshio Williams, PE, FPE (218) 279-2436 direct | (218) 310-2446 cell LHB, Inc. | PERFORMANCE DRIVEN DESIGN

Re: [EXTERNAL] Campus type water supply

2019-12-23 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
We are “fixing” a similar arrangement at an Air National Guard Base. Originally they brought fire water used on site to two large underground storage tanks, then had electric and diesel vertical inline pumps to serve high pressure fire flow needs, think AFFF & HEF. At some point they installed

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Trouble getting Architects to give Revit files

2019-12-04 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
Our office will always provide pdf, AutoCAD (if the job was created in it) or Revit, but we WILL ask you to sign a release/NDA on our part of the work. There are some military jobs we do that we “need” Revit coordination drawing due to the RFP and sometimes finding contractors in a given area

Re: N1.85 graph paper

2019-08-27 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
I’ve used the forms that are produced by 185 graph (http://www.reckonit.com/) as you can put your logo on them $250 and does some tree/branch hydraulic calculations if you don’t have or need a full featured hydraulic calculation program like sprinkcad. 30 day demo. Alternate

RE: Attic/Concealed space access to sprinkler heads

2019-08-15 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
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RE: Attic/Concealed space access to sprinkler heads

2019-08-15 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
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RE: Attic/Concealed space access to sprinkler heads

2019-08-15 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
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RE: Attic/Concealed space access to sprinkler heads

2019-08-15 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
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RE: Captive Aire Systems

2019-08-15 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
At least one of the Twin Cities local jurisdictions want to see these system or fire protection sprinklers installed in all kitchen hoods. The Fire Marshall want to have protection even when the agent has been expended (such as an agent only system). (they also want sprinklers to back up clean

Attic/Concealed space access to sprinkler heads

2019-08-15 Thread David Williams via Sprinklerforum
I have a project intended to be fully sprinkled with a combustible attic that tapers from 2' to 4 ' without being filled to within 2 inches of the deck with insulation. So I am planning on a dry pipe system with standard heads as the design of the attic does not allow the effective use of