Pre-action detection

2016-09-20 Thread Gregg Key
. State is asking me to hang a partial certification ( yellow tag) . has anyone else dealt with this detection being used for a pre-action system in a detention center? Any help would be appreciated Gregg Key General Manager Key Fire Protection Enterprises,LLC 3200 Mike Padgett Hwy Augusta

Pre-action system for correction facilities

2016-07-20 Thread Gregg Key
Greetings, Is it common to install a double interlock Pre-action system in the cell pod areas in correction facilities? Gregg Key General Manager Key Fire Protection Enterprises,LLC 3200 Mike Padgett Hwy Augusta GA, 30906 O-706-790-3473 C- 706-220-8821 F- 706-738-2119 <mailto

cost of ul testing of sprinklers

2016-04-21 Thread Gregg Key
Does anyone know how much UL charges to test sprinkler heads? I called and left a message for them but kinda need an answer now. Thanks Gregg Key General Manager Key Fire Protection Enterprises,LLC 3200 Mike Padgett Hwy Augusta GA, 30906 O-706-790-3473 C- 706-220-8821 F- 706-738-2119 gr

RE: CPVC leak

2012-11-27 Thread Gregg Key
Steve, I don't believe you are supposed to use air in a cpvc system. We used to use some cheap cologne in the steel systems but not in plastic. How bad is the leak? Maybe you could put water back on it slowly and find it that way. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project

RE: trip time per nfpa 25

2012-10-25 Thread Gregg Key
:27 AM, Gregg Key gr...@keyfps.com wrote: Our inspector ask an interesting question today. How long is too long of a time for a dry valve to trip before it is considered a deficiency? 25 does not specify but 15 min seams too long. Don't have the previous report to compare it to. C.Gregg

trip time per nfpa 25

2012-10-24 Thread Gregg Key
Our inspector ask an interesting question today. How long is too long of a time for a dry valve to trip before it is considered a deficiency? 25 does not specify but 15 min seams too long. Don't have the previous report to compare it to. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project

Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Gregg Key
Formites and fire protection friends, Has anyone here ever installed an electric fire pump on these spring type isolators? We usually install them on a pad, but recently had someone require us to install on the isolators. Any help would be appreciated. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection

RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Gregg Key
anything to back up my gut opinion. I'm curious as to what others think and know. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Gregg Key gr...@keyfps.com wrote: Formites and fire protection friends, Has anyone here ever installed an electric fire pump on these spring type isolators? We usually install

NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Gregg Key
Forum, if you were inspecting a building and found some pendant sprinklers with the heat collectors installed, would you write it up as a deficiency and why? Many moons ago they were accepted but later research proved they did not work. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc

RE: sprinkler head quick cut off tool

2012-07-26 Thread Gregg Key
www.petcosky-sons.com 607-797-0160 Ext.105 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Key Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:08 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: sprinkler head quick cut off

RE: Underground Pipe Material

2012-02-29 Thread Gregg Key
The C-900 pipe is approved and listed for underground use and not above ground usage. Not suppose to use it to come up thru the floor. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821 -Original Message- From:

RE: Underground Pipe Material

2012-02-29 Thread Gregg Key
...@cox.nete-mail www.ParsleyConsulting.com http://www.ParsleyConsulting.comwebsite On 2/29/2012 12:58 PM, Gregg Key wrote: The C-900 pipe is approved and listed for underground use and not above ground usage. Not suppose to use it to come up thru the floor. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection

Head Guard in Racquetball court

2012-01-31 Thread Gregg Key
What is the preferred method of protecting the Pendent Sprinklers in a racquetball court? The head guards from FPPI state that they are not designed for impact? C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821

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2011-11-17 Thread Gregg Key
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REPLACEMENT FOR STAR LD2 PLATE

2011-09-08 Thread Gregg Key
Does anyone know if a spring loaded plate exist that replaces the Star LD2 plate. It was a very good idea but cant seem to find them Thanks C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821 ___

RE: Non-threaded ATR

2011-09-08 Thread Gregg Key
Now that brings back memories. Having to buy 3/8 solid rod and thread it in the field. Takes a lot more time if you have to recut hangers. Should be able to buy 3/8 solid rod from steel plant. Fab shops should be able to provide it. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project

RE: Fire Dept Test Port reference

2011-06-21 Thread Gregg Key
WOW , He sent word that the reference is NFPA 13 2010 ed.A.8.17.4.6.1 A.8.17.4.6.1 The full flow test of the backflow prevention valve can be performed with a test header or other connection downstream of the valve. A bypass around the check valve in the fire department connector line

Backflow forward flow test

2011-06-21 Thread Gregg Key
Ok now that I got past that, Any reason that the 2 main drain could not be used if the required flow could be achieved. System demand + hose allowance? C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821

RE: Limited Area Systems

2011-05-19 Thread Gregg Key
Gerald, I must be having a senior moment, Does the solenoid cut the system on or off? I assume on since you said it is activated by the flow switch. So we have a system with a closed control valve(solenoid) and when a head goes off how does the flow switch work since no water is in the system??

RE: Limited Area Systems

2011-05-19 Thread Gregg Key
, CFPS Sprinkler Designer BMW Constructors, Inc. O: 317.651.0596 | C: 317.439.2695 www.bmwc.com From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org on behalf of Gregg Key Sent: Thu 5/19/2011 3:55 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Limited Area Systems

RE: Limited Area Systems

2011-05-18 Thread Gregg Key
Eric, We have inspected a few of these systems. Since you are installing a flow switch, you will need to install an inspectors test. I never seen a FDC installed on them but have seen 1 1/2 FDC's installed on small residential systems. Never seen a solenoid operated cut off valve installed, What

RE: Wall Post Valves

2011-05-17 Thread Gregg Key
Brian, You can buy a DCVA with a PIV installed on the bottom of it. We have used it in the past to meet that requirement C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

RE: misalignment question 2

2011-03-14 Thread Gregg Key
-220-8821 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Key Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:10 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: misalignment question Would anyone please give an example

misalignment question

2011-03-11 Thread Gregg Key
Would anyone please give an example of what a misalignment of the sprinkler pipe would mean as far as nfpa 25 2002 edition 5.2.2.1 Thanks C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821 ___

Rolling medical file storage

2011-01-20 Thread Gregg Key
It has been a while since I have been on and I think this has been discussed before but cant find it in the archives so here I go. Doing a NFPA 25 inspection and find a medical storage room with rolling files that are within 8 of the sprinklers. Sprinklers spaced 12x12. This system has 8 rolling

RE: One City Tap for Four Buildings

2011-01-11 Thread Gregg Key
To help me understand, if a sprinkler goes off in building 4 then all 4 systems will show a water flow thus have all 4 alarms? C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821 -Original Message- From:

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Gregg Key
Good reason to install flow switches on the riser and let wmag give local alarms C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc Project Manager (O) 706-790-3473 (C) 706-220-8821 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

Re: Slow responding dry pipe valves

2009-04-29 Thread Gregg Key
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Re: Fwd: Underground transition

2009-03-12 Thread Gregg Key
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Re: Underground transition

2009-03-11 Thread Gregg Key
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Recalled sprinklers

2008-10-02 Thread Gregg Key
? Some discussion was had if this was a recall or replacement. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml01/01201.html begin:vcard fn:C Gregg Key n:Key;C Gregg org:Fire Technology;Fire Sprinkler Division adr;dom:;;3124 Washington Road;Augusta ;GA;30907 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PDF drawings

2008-09-22 Thread Gregg Key
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Re: 200 psi test for components rated 175

2008-05-30 Thread Gregg Key
] 05/30/08 8:56 AM That's funny. I'm pretty taciturn and your word elicited an out loud chuckle. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Fletcher, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: six -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg Key Sent: Friday, May 30

Re: Full-flow backflow test

2008-05-30 Thread Gregg Key
outlet. Mark A. Sornsin, PE Fire Protection Engineer Ulteig Engineers, Inc. Fargo, ND 701.280.8591 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg Key Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:23 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org

Re: unified facilities criteria question

2008-05-21 Thread Gregg Key
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Re: Pressure Regulating Valve

2008-05-14 Thread Gregg Key
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Sprinkler heads in coolers/freezers

2008-05-13 Thread Gregg Key
If I may tap into the collective memory bank of sprinkler knowledge, How long have sprinklers been required in coolers/freezers per NFPA 13? Thanks Gregg begin:vcard fn:C Gregg Key n:Key;C Gregg org:Fire Technology;Fire Sprinkler Division adr;dom:;;3124 Washington Road;Augusta ;GA;30907 email

Re: Failed Bucket Test

2008-04-07 Thread Gregg Key
Brian, What is/was the water flow numbers? Gregg begin:vcard fn:C Gregg Key n:Key;C Gregg org:Fire Technology;Fire Sprinkler Division adr;dom:;;3124 Washington Road;Augusta ;GA;30907 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Project Manager tel;work

Sorta simple question

2008-02-28 Thread Gregg Key
a tamper switch on it. but I have not seen the ball valve for the alarm line even sealed . does any one seal or lock them? 8.16.1.4.3 does this one nullify 8.16.1.4.1? if so does it still need to meet the requirement of 8.16.1.4.2? thanks begin:vcard fn:C Gregg Key n:Key;C Gregg

RE: More victims still...

2007-08-21 Thread Gregg Key, SET
Hey Matt, good link but I think you missed the last 2 numbers in the link http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=39id=56032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Willis Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:16 AM To:

RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec

2007-07-31 Thread Gregg Key, SET
You are right Bob, especially when is a Gov. Job. We are suppose to have a clause in our contract that states that if we have to pay for drawings it will be an extra to the contract. So cost of work goes up. Gov has already paid for it once. Gregg -Original Message- From:

RE: Questions to ask when selecting a contractor

2007-07-26 Thread Gregg Key, SET
David, Does that mean that WA. Has adapted the green, yellow red tag system to use with NFPA 25? And also, would the state happened to have provided guidelines on applying the 3 tag system to NFPA 25? Gregg Key, SET Project Manager Augusta Fire Protection For those wondering, WA state

old viking escutcheon plate model A-1 Concealed

2007-07-03 Thread Gregg Key, SET
Does anyone know where a stash of these plates can be found? Viking states that they are not available and we have a place of business that has some of these plates missing. Any help would be appreciated. Gregg ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list

RE: drum drip

2007-05-14 Thread Gregg Key, SET
Todd, The fitter was probably telling you the truth, which is that he was taught to close both valves. When I started in the field in the late 70's, I was taught the same thing. This is a good reason to promote the AFSA apprenticeship program so the fitters coming up now can be taught the correct

RE: Industry Standard

2007-04-24 Thread Gregg Key, SET
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