Re: News Bite

2010-01-26 Thread Steve Muncy
contact Peg Paul with the Home Fire Sprinkler Coalition. She also provides PR assistance for AFSA and is superb in talking points - and tell her I referred you. Peg Paul Peg Paul and Associates (Home Fire Sprinkler Coalition) p...@ppacom.com Steve A. Muncy, CAE - President American Fire

RE: Electrical Dangers

2010-01-26 Thread Ford, Charles
A question has come up regarding electric fire pump testing. During the required voltage and amperage tests, is the inspector exposed to harm from high voltage electricity. If the answer is YES, do you, (they etc.) provide high voltage protective gear and tools in accordance with NFPA 70E? C.

RE: Electrical Dangers

2010-01-26 Thread Matthew J. Willis
Actually the inspector is exposed to low voltage. (If it is an older panel without the external indicators) And I carry all the gear.., face shield, gloves etc.., to perform the test. It is always fun to reach into an old panel with knife switches, after you are soaked from adjusting the pitot

RE: Electrical Dangers

2010-01-26 Thread Jim Johnston
I recently purchased a Fluke 1735 Power Logger to take care of these situations, it reads amperage and voltage. To set it up you kill the incoming power to the panel open the door and hook up all the leads, it has alligator clips for all three legs of voltage and detachable rings for the current

RE: Electrical Dangers

2010-01-26 Thread John Drucker
Burton, Yes the inspector is since the inspector must override the disconnect interlock to open the panel door in the energized condition and or energize the controller with the door open. The potential (operating voltage) is a key criteria in arc flash severity and personal protection. 2009

RE: Electrical Dangers

2010-01-26 Thread John Drucker
Adding to Jims solution the newer digital fire pump controllers with their panel mounted readouts eliminate the hazard. Also keep in mind that the overcurrent protection of power supplies to fire pump controllers is the locked rotor current or appx six times the running current of the motor. NEC

FEMA Emergency Housing

2010-01-26 Thread Mike Cabral
I am looking for some guidance on the water supply assumptions to consider when designing sprinkler system for a FEMA Trailer. I have seen designs ranging from 100 psi to 20 psi. The water supplies for these units are unknown and it is my view that the design basis should be based upon the low

FEMA Emergency Housing

2010-01-26 Thread Mike Cabral
I am looking for some guidance on the water supply assumptions to consider when designing sprinkler system for a FEMA Trailer. I have seen designs ranging from 100 psi to 20 psi. The water supplies for these units are unknown and it is my view that the design basis should be based upon the low

Re: FEMA Emergency Housing

2010-01-26 Thread Ron Greenman
Mike, First you have the head starting pressure then the friction loss in the piping all the way back to a loop to consider. Bigger pipes mean more cost but less friction. The whole thing with hydraulics is a balancing act between required flows and pressures, available pressure (available flow

RE: dry system drains

2010-01-26 Thread Reed Roisum
8.16.2.5.3.1, 2007 ed. says that Aux. drains located in areas subject to freezing shall be readily accessible. I would take that to say no. Reed A. Roisum, CET Fire Protection Ulteig Engineers, Inc. 3350 38th Avenue S. Fargo, ND 58104 701.280.8580 direct 701.212.8810 cell www.ulteig.com

RE: FEMA Emergency Housing

2010-01-26 Thread Thom McMahon
This may be a starting point, IPC says if you can't meet these flows and pressures then you need to install a booster pump. This may require you to Hyd. Calc. the domestic system to find the minimum flow and pressure required to operate the plumbing fixtures. Since it looks like most will work

Dry Valve Pressure Set-Up

2010-01-26 Thread Joe Burtell
Does anyone out there have a handy excel file that would automatically calculate the air maintenance device cut-in, cut-out and the PS-40 high and low settings based on the static pressure plugged into the formula? Best regards, Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS Burtell Fire Protection Phone: 406.652.7697

RE: dry system drains

2010-01-26 Thread Forest Wilson
Not in NFPA 13. Forest Wilson Project Manager Cherokee Fire Protection Co. 1855 Bellbrook Ave. Ste C Xenia OH 45385 ph: 937-376-2333 fx: 614-455-4324 cell: 937-307-5647 . Visit our blog: www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com NOTICE: The information contained in this email is intended to be solely for

Re: Dry Valve Pressure Set-Up

2010-01-26 Thread Forest Wilson
I think it is manufacturer specific so you cannot base of static pressure. For example consider the difference between Tyco and Victaulic. Forest Wilson Project Manager Cherokee Fire Protection Co. 1855 Bellbrook Ave. Ste C Xenia OH 45385 ph: 937-376-2333 fx: 614-455-4324 cell: 937-307-5647 .

Re: Dry Valve Pressure Set-Up

2010-01-26 Thread Ron Greenman
Make one for each ratio. Excel is pretty simple. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Joe Burtell j...@burtellfire.com wrote: Does anyone out there have a handy excel file that would automatically calculate the air maintenance device cut-in, cut-out and the PS-40 high and low settings based on the

RE: Dry Valve Pressure Set-Up

2010-01-26 Thread Rod DiBona
We don't have one for either Joe or I would send it to you. Sounds like a good idea however! Rod DiBona Rapid Fire From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Joe Burtell [j...@burtellfire.com]

Re: Dry Valve Pressure Set-Up

2010-01-26 Thread Jim Smyrl
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RE: Dry Valve Pressure Set-Up

2010-01-26 Thread Thom McMahon
Create one, give the rights to AFSA and let them sell it to others. I'd give ya mine, but then I'd have to ya. No really I would! Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -Original

RE: dry system drains

2010-01-26 Thread Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo
Hello forum, I wanted to send out a huge thanks to Scot Deal for stopping in at the Fire Sprinkler Academy this week. Scot made quite an impact on the students by sitting in on a lesson using CAD to layout a sprinkler system. (He drew an entire system and we will likely frame the plot!)