RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-19 Thread John Drucker
08 11:57 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? It sounds like the developer is already aware and telling the contractor they want it done like it was in the past. The developer will not wnt to raise any questions from those they sold homes to and wi

Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-19 Thread Cherokeefirepro
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:36:44 To: Subject: RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? Hopefully the first call will be the developer/owner and not the fire marshal. Sorry Forest - not making light of your situation here. Bill Brooks William N. Brooks

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-19 Thread bill . brooks
-6528 Cell Original Message Subject: RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? From: "Thom McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, November 19, 2008 10:53 am To: How did he get away with it? You, the AHJ, the code officials, the insurance underwr

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-19 Thread Thom McMahon
How did he get away with it? You, the AHJ, the code officials, the insurance underwriter, the GC and developer all let him! But has he really "Gotten away with anything?" If you use this as an educate the AHj/GC opportunity, maybe this can be one of those life changing experiences for them. I would

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-19 Thread John Drucker
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:23 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? Didn't you say the AHJ rubber stamps everything "Approved?" I don't want to know, for similar e

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-19 Thread George Church
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IPA Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:08 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? It's all over the cover sheet "R-2 occupancy" and specifically states "NFPA #13R" fo

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-19 Thread John Drucker
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IPA Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:20 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? Actually, there is a one-hour firewall between both halves of the units which would sep

Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread steve
Severna Park, MD 21146 > 410-544-3620 Phone > 410-544-3032 FAX > 412-400-6528 Cell > > Original Message > Subject: Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? > From: Roland Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, November 18, 2008 6:21 pm > To: s

Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread IPA
of two dwelling units. Therefore R not D. > > Just my reading, others may differ. > > Bill Brooks > > William N. Brooks, P.E. > Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. > 372 Wilett Drive > Severna Park, MD 21146 > 410-544-3620 Phone > 410-544-3032 FAX > 412-400

Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread IPA
ot D. > > Just my reading, others may differ. > > Bill Brooks > > William N. Brooks, P.E. > Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. > 372 Wilett Drive > Severna Park, MD 21146 > 410-544-3620 Phone > 410-544-3032 FAX > 412-400-6528 Cell > > Original Me

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread bill . brooks
y differ. Bill Brooks William N. Brooks, P.E. Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. 372 Wilett Drive Severna Park, MD 21146 410-544-3620 Phone 410-544-3032 FAX 412-400-6528 Cell Original Message ---- Subject: Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? From: Roland

Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread Roland Huggins
What does the IBC say? If there were townhouses (not since units divided per floor), then a 13D could be used with minimal rated separation per the IRC. The code drives the allowed type of system, not how small you make each individual system. Make sure the tamper switches are electrica

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread Thom McMahon
You may want to talk to you contractor about a single supply for all four units fire system, or one larger dom. Supply in one unit and 3 smaller supplies in the other units. That way only one larger backflow, and you can still zone by unit if the GC wants, or at least by floor. Thom McMahon, SET F

Re: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread IPA
IL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IPA > Sent: November 18, 2008 12:26 PM > To: sprinklerforum > Subject: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? > > I have a residential complex consisting of two story units with two > individual units per floor. Obviousl

RE: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread A.P.Silva
: sprinklerforum Subject: 13R system with individual risers calc to 13D? I have a residential complex consisting of two story units with two individual units per floor. Obviously this would fall under 13R however in this case the owner wants each unit to have it's own seperate riser control,

13R system with individual risers calc to 13D?

2008-11-18 Thread IPA
I have a residential complex consisting of two story units with two individual units per floor. Obviously this would fall under 13R however in this case the owner wants each unit to have it's own seperate riser control, it's own underground feed etc... each unit is 100% independant from the others.