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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of David
Williams
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Actually looking at something like
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:11 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Hard to take a swing at my friend and mentor here but anecdotal without data to
suggest
, September 13, 2012 10:11 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Hard to take a swing at my friend and mentor here but anecdotal without
data to suggest this is a common problem worth addressing. Would the WFS
not been installed if the pipe ran outside
Jarron,
It is not a good practice to have a water service that far into a
building. You may also want to check with the water purveyor and the
insurance company because they may not allow this due to the liability. One
solution I have used is to rise up with the service at the
You will not find anything saying the use fo underground pipe above
ground is NOT ok. That's not how it works. Underground pipe by
definition and allowed use per Table 10.1.1 can only be used
underground (as dictated by the title of the applicable sections and
listing when required).
To extend Roland's remarks, there is also language in the new edition of
-13 (and -24) which limits the length that underground pipe can be run
under the foundation without arching, trenching or isolation valves to
no more than 10'-0 from the edge of the foundation.
PARSLEY CONSULTING
Ken
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ParsleyConsulting
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
To extend Roland's remarks, there is also language in the new edition
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ParsleyConsulting
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
To extend Roland's remarks, there is also language in the new edition of
-13 (and -24) which limits the length
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:27 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Why care if all the sprinkler heads are beyond the point at which a
notification means is installed
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Why care if all the sprinkler heads are beyond the point at which a
notification means is installed. If I'm reading you correctly, somewhere
between the water source for this pipe and where it enters the building
Well for a real life situation where this exists, albeit in a very large
building in Kansas City --- picture a 1000 feet by 2000 feet building.
10-inch fire mains running east-west and north-south through the building
with takeoffs for manifolded sprinkler systems of from 2-3 risers each,
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From: jhoff...@kcp.com
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 22:12:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Well for a real life situation where this exists, albeit in a very large
building in Kansas City
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Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 22:12:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Well for a real life situation where this exists, albeit in a very large
building in Kansas City
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:57 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Jarron,
You're monitoring waterflow of sprinklers. As long as the waterflow detector
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron
Greenman
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:57 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Jarron,
You're monitoring waterflow of sprinklers. As long as the waterflow
detector
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From: jhoff...@kcp.com
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Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 22:12:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Well for a real life situation where this exists, albeit in a very large
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Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 22:12:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Well for a real life situation where this exists, albeit in a very large
building in Kansas City --- picture a 1000 feet by 2000 feet building.
10-inch fire mains running east-west and north
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Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 22:12:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Shutoff at Service Entrance
Well for a real life situation where this exists, albeit in a very large
building in Kansas City --- picture a 1000 feet by 2000 feet building
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