Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread Mnyb
mherger wrote: > > It's when transcoding to wav/pcm they don't work > > Oh, that might be the reason why I missed most of this thread. "Doctor, > > doctor! When I slap my head, it hurts!" - "Then don't slap your head.". > > -- > > Michael Yeah I totally get that :) but the same transcoding

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread Michael Herger
It's when transcoding to wav/pcm they don't work Oh, that might be the reason why I missed most of this thread. "Doctor, doctor! When I slap my head, it hurts!" - "Then don't slap your head.". -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread Mnyb
It's a bit more complicated natively they played fine . It's when transcoding to wav/pcm they don't work , until you reecode them to flac again. So OP has 2 working solutions already . Play them natively . Reflac the offending files , which where not to many, most of his files works just

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread Michael Herger
Files are not entirerly OK but at what level should LMS scan reject them I didn't follow all of the discussion... but hasn't there in the past been an issue if flac files were compressed at a high level? Could this be the case here? -- Michael

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread Mnyb
On the topic wonder if michael want sthese files . They work on other aplications . They dont work on LMS . They work if you recode them to new flac files . Files are not entirerly OK but at what level should LMS scan reject them ?

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread reinholdk
mherger wrote: > (to make this even more OT: install cygwin and openssh. First thing I do > > on a Windows system I have to use :-)) > Sorry, keeping it OT. Some alternatives (only used WSL up to now): - Microsoft is now providing an OpenSSH implementation:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread Michael Herger
(still OT.. I'm a Unix admin forced to use a Windows client, putty is painful when sessions drop and the window vanishes, configuring it is painful, putty's scp is functional but very very slow, I'm just surprised that it doesn't get more development effort given how widespread its use seems to

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread drmatt
(still OT.. I'm a Unix admin forced to use a Windows client, putty is painful when sessions drop and the window vanishes, configuring it is painful, putty's scp is functional but very very slow, I'm just surprised that it doesn't get more development effort given how widespread its use seems to

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread bpa
drmatt wrote: > Yep, sorry, OT. Find myself having to use putty all the time, but all I > do is work around it. Not sure what you mean use Putty and then work around it. It is a remote ssh connection and so functionality is that of Windows command prompt but is accessible from all OS's that

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-22 Thread drmatt
Yep, sorry, OT. Find myself having to use putty all the time, but all I do is work around it. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-21 Thread bpa
drmatt wrote: > Fair enough. Putty is ubiquitous, functional, and yet utterly appalling. > Why the hell has the windows world not moved on from putty? This is OT - the OP got command line OK and has tested the file. Problem is restricted to specific files. wrt Putty - Unlike X - Windows

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-21 Thread drmatt
Fair enough. Putty is ubiquitous, functional, and yet utterly appalling. Why the hell has the windows world not moved on from putty? -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-21 Thread d6jg
drmatt wrote: > Between minuses converted to "long dash", quotes lost in translation and > line breaks becoming, well, line breaks, there are a large number of > ways this command might not make it intact to where you want it to be > run. > > However I'd also question winscp's terminal

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-20 Thread bpa
eduardoo wrote: > Thanks for the advice. I took extra care inputting the command and was > able to have it executed on the problem track as well as on a normal > track. > > Here is the output of the problem track: > > /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$ >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-19 Thread eduardoo
Thanks for the advice. I took extra care inputting the command and was able to have it executed on the problem track as well as on a normal track. Here is the output of the problem track: /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$ "SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-19 Thread Mnyb
eduardoo wrote: > Hi all, > > I also did a little testing by converting those flac files to flac again > using Foobar. While Foobar reported corrupt files after converting, > those new files actually play fine on LMS even when transcoded. > Interesting. > > Thanks. ..So there could be

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-19 Thread bpa
eduardoo wrote: > Hi. > > I tried inputting that command on a terminal started with Winscp. As > soon as I entered, a swirling circle came up for a while and then it > says it lost connection. Probably more about me doing something wrong > with the test than the actual outcome of the test?

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-19 Thread eduardoo
bpa wrote: > I don't know what's wrong. My guess is the transcoding command line is > failiing for some reason. To test this theory, run the following > command from a shell prompt and see if it produces an error message. If > it runs OK it will generate a RAW file called test.raw > > Code:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-16 Thread dolodobendan
Mnyb wrote: > Thats interesting , but I've heard worse about medieval about effing > about with gapless etc . And I've seen worse. I never really bothered how and under which circumstances it messes up the files, but it does. QLMS 7.9.1@1.07.4 (digimaster) / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-16 Thread bpa
eduardoo wrote: > Sorry, I'm not good at all with this Linux stuff. So, can you please be > more specific as to what is wrong and what exactly I am supposed to do? > > Thanks. I don't know what's wrong. My guess is the transcoding command line is failiing for some reason. To test this

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-16 Thread eduardoo
bpa wrote: > From the log. > The error in red usually means the command line at > "tokenizeConvertCommand2 (617) Using command for conversion" in blue > failed for some reason so check the command below (i.e. no c or s > option) at a shell prompt and see what error message Flac throw up. >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-16 Thread bpa
eduardoo wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is the log during failed playback of the files which are otherwise > playable when playing flac direct and not transcoded. > > I also did a little testing by converting those flac files to flac again > using Foobar. While Foobar reported corrupt files after

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-16 Thread eduardoo
Hi all, Here is the log during failed playback of the files which are otherwise playable when playing flac direct and not transcoded. Thanks. +---+ |Filename: log.txt | |Download:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-16 Thread Mnyb
Paul Webster wrote: > Some suggestions over at > http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174184 > Regarding "corrupt" files ... according to that thread some of the tools > and a self-promoting tag to the newly generated file - so not really > corrupting and you could remove the tag with other

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-15 Thread jfo
Mnyb wrote: > Btw is there any tools invoved making per track flac files from one big > album flac file with cue sheet ? > > I have learned that one should use cue-tools flacon or anything but > ”medieval cue splitter” that tool. n corrupt the files ? Foobar2000 will do this.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-15 Thread Paul Webster
Mnyb wrote: > Btw is there any tools invoved making per track flac files from one big > album flac file with cue sheet ? > > I have learned that one should use cue-tools flacon or anything but > ”medieval cue splitter” that tool. n corrupt the files ? Some suggestions over at

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-15 Thread drmatt
I had to write some scripts to load id3 tag data and rewrite it back as vorbis tags. One or two older taggers defaulted to id3, I don't use those now. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-15 Thread Mnyb
Btw is there any tools invoved making per track flac files from one big album flac file with cue sheet ? I have learned that one should use cue-tools flacon or anything but ”medieval cue splitter” that tool. n corrupt the files ?

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-15 Thread Mnyb
drmatt wrote: > I wonder if your transcode is resampling? That would be the one and only > reason it might sound different. > > > -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- Exact resampling can be setup in varius ways trough SoX diffrent filterslopes and actually some margins added can change

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-15 Thread drmatt
I wonder if your transcode is resampling? That would be the one and only reason it might sound different. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread eduardoo
drmatt wrote: > Usually this comes down to those particular files containing a different > type of tag, or are set to a different bit depth or sample rate from the > others. I'm not going to comment on the audibility other than to say > there shouldn't be any reason at all, but I've been using

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread eduardoo
bpa wrote: > Enable logging player.source to DEBUG to see why transcoding is failing > (i.e it will show which rules failed). > > Enable logging player.source, note time at start of test, do test, note > time at end of test. Copy ALL log entries between start and end time to > a text file, zip

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread bpa
eduardoo wrote: > I can't see why these particular files can't be transcoded. Enable logging player.source to DEBUG to see why transcoding is failing (i.e it will show which rules failed). Enable logging player.source, note time at start of test, do test, note time at end of test. Copy ALL log

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread Mike Sargent
bpa wrote: > IIRC This possibility was tested on Touch. CPU load is higher when > playing WAV than Flac possibly because of higher network traffic, more > packets, less space for buffering etc. WAV is less compressed than FLAC (about 2 to 3 times larger typically), so WAV will use more network

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread bpa
eduardoo wrote: > Perhaps playing flac strains the renderer more than playing wav? IIRC This possibility was tested on Touch. CPU load is higher when playing WAV than Flac possibly because of higher network traffic, more packets, less space for buffering etc.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread eduardoo
drmatt wrote: > And you've stopped transcoding to wav to see if it's the software decode > step that's failing .. ? .. (which should be inaudible unless you are > utterly mangling the sample rate or bit depth during this transcode > step). > > > -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- Yes,

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread drmatt
And you've stopped transcoding to wav to see if it's the software decode step that's failing .. ? .. (which should be inaudible unless you are utterly mangling the sample rate or bit depth during this transcode step). -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-14 Thread eduardoo
philippe_44 wrote: > Even when activating transcoding/player streaming logs? What's this? How do I go about finding it? Thanks. eduardoo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25850 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-13 Thread philippe_44
eduardoo wrote: > Hi, Phillipe. > > I didn't post a server log because there was no error listed in it. As > for the UPnP bridge, I just used it briefly for troubleshooting to see > if it is the renderer's problem or the server's problem. I usually just > use LMS to play to an SOTM SMS-100

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-13 Thread eduardoo
philippe_44 wrote: > You should post a server log. When you mention LMS DLNA plugin, do you > mean UPnP bridge? If you do, can you post a bridge log as well? Hi, Phillipe. I didn't post a server log because there was no error listed in it. As for the UPnP bridge, I just used it briefly for

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

2018-03-13 Thread philippe_44
eduardoo wrote: > Out of my over 10k albums indexed on LMS, there are a few that won't > play on LMS. When I try to play them, it would display an error message > saying "Can't open file for...". The files themselves seem pretty > normal. They're 16/44 files, with metadata displayed perfectly