john greenwood wrote:
> The first music I purchased from iTunes in a year and a half. Remind me
> never to do it again.
:)
I've never bought, but I received a free 'encouragement' in the form of
a U2 album. Those tracks don't exhibit this particular issue (no 'tmpo'
present at all).
The first music I purchased from iTunes in a year and a half. Remind me
never to do it again.
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slartibartfast wrote:
> AFAIK the tracks were bought from iTunes so the tagging issue comes from
> there.
>
> Edit. Although the OP may have modified the tags.
Always an uncertainty...
I find I can 'fix' the duff tmpo atom very simply:
Add the OP's provided track to iTunes.
Call up "Song
mrw wrote:
> I think there is something wrong with the tmpo atom, which immediately
> precedes the genre ([emoji2398]gen) atom you have, and is set as
> 'Rock/Pop'. By 'something wrong' I mean probably corrupted.
>
> >
Code:
> >
> AtomicParsley exclamations.m4a -T
john greenwood wrote:
> Hope this works
I think there is something wrong with the tmpo atom, which immediately
precedes the genre (©gen) atom you have, and is set as 'Rock/Pop'. By
'something wrong' I mean probably corrupted.
Code:
AtomicParsley exclamations.m4a -T
john greenwood wrote:
> And all of a sudden, all is well. I switched tags back and forth (to
> and from qwerty to Rock/Pop) in both JRiver and Mp3tag and LMS got it
> right each time.
>
> I had done this previously. The one additional thing I did was update
> my test platform LMS to the
d6jg wrote:
> So what this suggests is that your particular installation of LMS has a
> scanning issue.
>
> Can you post some more details of your set up - the info displayed under
> Settings / Information at the top of the page and Id suggest do a
> further clear and rescan but then post your
kidstypike wrote:
> Right, I've pointed LMS at the original file again, rescanned, and again
> genre is "No Genre".
>
> Open the original file in mp3tag > extended tags > nothing edited or
> deleted, just pressed the "OK" button, pointed LMS at this file, clear
> and rescan, no genre is
Paul Webster wrote:
> Could you try with any other tag?
> I ask because perhaps MP3Tag normalises things when it writes anything
> out.
Right, I've pointed LMS at the original file again, rescanned, and again
genre is "No Genre".
Open the original file in mp3tag > extended tags > nothing
Could you try with any other tag?
I ask because perhaps MP3Tag normalises things when it writes anything
out.
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d6jg wrote:
> Good stuff.
> Are you going to revert to the original and remove one tag at a time to
> discover the culprit?
I copied the original file to another location, opened it in
mp3tag/extended tags, the "Year" format looked suspicious to me (it may
be perfectly normal, I dunno), so I
Perhaps Gen v Genre tags
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slartibartfast wrote:
> But the weird thing is that mp3tag sees the Rock/Pop genre tag.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Yes.
Its the scanner that cant see it.
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kidstypike wrote:
> I see the same using the file as sent.
>
> 29397
>
> Tidy up the tags in mp3tag, and rescan.
>
> 29398
>
> Problem gone.
>
> 29399But the weird thing is that mp3tag sees the Rock/Pop genre tag.
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d6jg wrote:
> Good stuff.
> Are you going to revert to the original and remove one tag at a time to
> discover the culprit?
Grrr!
I'll let the OP do that. ;)
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kidstypike wrote:
> I see the same using the file as sent.
>
> 29397
>
> Tidy up the tags in mp3tag.
>
> 29398
>
> Problem gone.
>
> 29399
Good stuff.
Are you going to revert to the original and remove one tag at a time to
discover the culprit?
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slartibartfast wrote:
> Hang on a second though. I just tried on my Windows 10 LMS running 7.9.2
> and it says " no genre"
>
> I also do not see a genre tag in "view tags"
I see the same using the file as sent.
29397
Tidy up the tags in mp3tag.
29398
Problem gone.
29399
slartibartfast wrote:
> Hang on a second though. I just tried on my Windows 10 LMS running 7.9.2
> and it says " no genre"
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Thats exactly what I mean. Both my LMS servers are Linux.
My money it that John is on W10 like your LMS and that there is a
d6jg wrote:
> So what this suggests is that your particular installation of LMS has a
> scanning issue.
>
> Can you post some more details of your set up - the info displayed under
> Settings / Information at the top of the page and Id suggest do a
> further clear and rescan but then post your
So what this suggests is that your particular installation of LMS has a
scanning issue.
Can you post some more details of your set up - the info displayed under
Settings / Information at the top of the page and Id suggest do a
further clear and rescan but then post your scanner.log file here.
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My Dev LMS 8 sees it as err Rock/Pop
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File contains your iTunes details (I've blaked out). I'd delete it if
you can.
Told you they contain a load of crap,
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Its only 13 seconds. Stick it in a zip file and use the file upload
tool in the Forum editor.
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john greenwood wrote:
> After additional testing, the problem seems to be the name I use for the
> Genre itself - Rock/Pop. If I change the Genre to "Alternative," in
> either JRiver or Mp3tag (just downloaded), LMS properly shows
> Alternative as the Genre for !!!.
>
> And before anyone
d6jg wrote:
> Sorry but I cant resist saying this. Rock/Pop is the wrong genre for
> that album anyway. Overhyped Kid would be far more appropriate.
>
> Seriously its probably a glitch in the scanner code where a / follows a
> ! or similar. Have you tried changing the title of the track to
>
john greenwood wrote:
> After additional testing, the problem seems to be the name I use for the
> genre itself - Rock/Pop. If I change the genre to "Alternative," in
> either JRiver or MP3Tag (just downloaded), LMS properly shows the Genre
> for !!!.
>
> And before anyone suggests that I
john greenwood wrote:
> After additional testing, the problem seems to be the name I use for the
> genre itself - Rock/Pop. If I change the genre to "Alternative," in
> either JRiver or MP3Tag (just downloaded), LMS properly shows the Genre
> for !!!.
>
> And before anyone suggests that I
d6jg wrote:
> Have you done a complete clear and rescan as recommended earlier?
> LMS may not have detected any change to the file and thus not rescanned
> it properly.
>
> On a more general note although you may have used JRiver and iTunes for
> ages that does not make them as competent as
john greenwood wrote:
> Using JRiver to tag, I can read the proper genre in JRiver, iTunes,
> Windows Media Player and Groove Music. The only media player I have
> that can't read it is LMS.
>
> And although I haven't tried every edit/read combination, I know that
> iTunes recognizes edits
john greenwood wrote:
> Using JRiver to tag, I can read the proper genre in JRiver, iTunes,
> Windows Media Player and Groove Music. The only media player I have
> that can't read it is LMS.
I've just re-tagged that Aztec camera album using JRiver, I changed the
genre from "Alternative" to
kidstypike wrote:
> Yes, but apparently JRiver doesn't work for "!!!".
> "!!!" works okay using mp3tag as per my example above.
Using JRiver to tag, I can read the proper genre in JRiver, iTunes,
Windows Media Player and Groove Music. The only media player I have
that can't read it
john greenwood wrote:
> JRiver has worked for my 40,000+ tracks (about half of which are
> classical and require a lot of editing). I'm not going to change to a
> new system because of one track.
Yes, but apparently JRiver doesn't work for "!!!".
"!!!" works okay using mp3tag as per
BosseJ wrote:
> You didn't mention the operating system for your LMS installation but if
> it is some Linux version and the track file name is something like
> "!!.flac" then it may not be accepted by the OS.
> Here's some result I get on my Linux Mint 19.3 laptop when trying to
> create
d6jg wrote:
> Use mp3tag - this is the de facto Swiss Army knife of taggers
JRiver has worked for my 40,000+ tracks. I'm not going to change to a
new system because of one track.
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john greenwood wrote:
> Both JRiver and iTunes.
>
> Last night I opened the file in Notepad and searched for "Rock/Pop." I
> couldn't find it. I then opened one of the other tracks and did find
> it. Which begs the question, where do JRiver and iTunes, which identify
> the genre of the
mherger wrote:
> OP says he can play the track. Therefore the filename isn't the issue.
> The remaining issue is the genre. Which must be in the tags. What tool
> did you use to edit the genre?
> --
>
> Michael
Both JRiver and iTunes.
Last night I opened the file in Notepad and searched
d6jg wrote:
> Try changing the title to Exclamation Marks. I know its not ideal but
> it may be that !! Is glitching the scanner.
I've already tried changing both the file name and the title.
john greenwood's
OP says he can play the track. Therefore the filename isn't the issue.
The remaining issue is the genre. Which must be in the tags. What tool
did you use to edit the genre?
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I've just taken an album from my spare music folder (Aztec Camera - Best
of), re-tagged the first track's title and filename to "!!!",
Windows has no problem with the filename, LMS has no problem with the
genre (Alternative).
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Whether or not it's the length of the track/file that's causing the
genre tag issue is interesting. I have an mp3 copy of -There's a Riot
Going On- by Sly and the Family Stone. The title track is zero length,
but is actually reported as 4 seconds on LMS. It it tagged with a genre,
which seems to
john greenwood wrote:
> Did a full rescan. No joy.
Try changing the title to Exclamation Marks. I know its not ideal but
it may be that !! Is glitching the scanner.
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garym wrote:
> After you change the file name, etc., you may need to do a clear and
> rescan to really get LMS to see the changes. Or at least first remove
> the file, do a scan for new and changed (and see that it is not listed
> in LMS), then add the file back and do a scan for new and
john greenwood wrote:
> I'm using Windows 10/NTFS.
>
> And changing the file name didn't help. LMS sees the file (and will
> play it) but apparently not the genre tag.
After you change the file name, etc., you may need to do a clear and
rescan to really get LMS to see the changes. Or at
slartibartfast wrote:
> What did you change the file name to?
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
"exclamations" (without the quotation marks)
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john greenwood wrote:
> I'm using Windows 10/NTFS.
>
> And changing the file name didn't help. LMS sees the file (and will
> play it) but apparently not the genre tag.What did you change the file name
> to?
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I'm using Windows 10/NTFS.
And changing the file name didn't help. LMS sees the file (and will
play it) but apparently not the genre tag.
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john greenwood wrote:
> !!! is the name of the first (13 second) track.
>
> I purchased the album from iTunes (something I do very rarely),
> downloaded it and added it to my LMS library (as well as my JRiver
> library). I edited several of the tags including genre. Both iTunes
> and
john greenwood wrote:
> I can play the track using LMS. But if I drill down through genre -
> which is almost always what I do - and play the album that way, the
> first track (13 seconds of nonsense) would be omitted.
>
> I can play the entire album, if I remember to drill down by album or
>
I can play the track using LMS. But if I drill down through genre -
which is almost always what I do - and play the album that way, the
first track (13 seconds of nonsense) would be omitted.
I can play the entire album, if I remember to drill down by album or
album artist.
This is not a
Maybe its enough to rename the file itself and not its title to let it
be recognized?
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Well, probably not an answer to your specific question, but I generally
remove characters such as ! which often have a system specific meaning
from filenames. Does the scanner see the file?
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!!! is the name of the first (13 second) track.
I purchased the album from iTunes (something I do very rarely),
downloaded it and added it to my LMS library (as well as my JRiver
library). I edited several of the tags including genre. Both iTunes
and JRiver recognize the genre for this
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