Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Server Machine Alternatives.
ralphy wrote: > 'Squeezeplay for MacOS' > (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezeplay/osx/)[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] Starting reading ASAP!!! Thank you Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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DomieMic65 wrote: > I will search for Ralphys posts but isn't it better to use a separate > machine for player only? 'Squeezeplay for MacOS' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezeplay/osx/) Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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DomieMic65 wrote: > I will search for Ralphys posts but isn't it better to use a separate > machine for player only?If it has the horsepower it won't matter. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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d6jg wrote: > Have you considered leaving the Mac as it is but installing Squeezeplay > on it I.e. turning it into a (headless) SB player? If you can use the > digital out to a DAC then SQ is really quite good. > If you look for any post by Ralphy you will find his signature contains > links to download various versions.I will search for Ralphys posts but isn't > it better to use a separate machine for player only? Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Have you considered leaving the Mac as it is but installing Squeezeplay on it I.e. turning it into a (headless) SB player? If you can use the digital out to a DAC then SQ is really quite good. If you look for any post by Ralphy you will find his signature contains links to download various versions. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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mherger wrote: > > When I get back home I must search on the SSL libraries (I do not > know > > what ssl libraries are or do) and see what I can do. Any links are > very > > much appreciated! > > I thought I had posted this before. But here's a good summary: > > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109738#post925539 > > > What problems might that create on my setup? > > I think besides the struggle of the update process itself, it shouldn't > > hurt at all. > > > The other option I am considering is another sbc, probably rpi4, for > > LMS. > > That's definitely an option. I'm running a Pi 3B+ with pCP connected to > > a NAS (for the music files) myself. > > > So the question is LMS in old macOS/old Mac or in new sbc? > > I've only done the latter. If you don't mind the configuration work, > then that's probably the simpler and more future proof way. > > -- > > Michael Yes you have posted before my bad! Thnx again and sorry for repeating myself! All this new info is a bit confusing to me! I think that updating openssl on the Mac is not very doable for me because there are some steps before the guide in the link that I dont think I know how to implement. I dont mind setting up the server again. Knowledge comes with repetition! No? So I will consider the rpi4 option too. Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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When I get back home I must search on the SSL libraries (I do not know what ssl libraries are or do) and see what I can do. Any links are very much appreciated! I thought I had posted this before. But here's a good summary: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109738#post925539 What problems might that create on my setup? I think besides the struggle of the update process itself, it shouldn't hurt at all. The other option I am considering is another sbc, probably rpi4, for LMS. That's definitely an option. I'm running a Pi 3B+ with pCP connected to a NAS (for the music files) myself. So the question is LMS in old macOS/old Mac or in new sbc? I've only done the latter. If you don't mind the configuration work, then that's probably the simpler and more future proof way. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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mherger wrote: > > Would you suggest to install a Linux distribution on my Mac mini (Late > > 2009, SSD, 8GB RAM) running El Capitan at the moment (the last os that > > supports this model) in order to use it as LMS machine? > > Considering you have no experience with Linux, I'd definitely not > recommend this. I'm pretty sure building the necessary SSL libraries > would be easier than learning to handle a new OS on a Mac. > > -- > > Michael I get your point and I guess you are right!! When I get back home I must search on the SSL libraries (I do not know what ssl libraries are or do) and see what I can do. Any links are very much appreciated! What problems might that create on my setup? I didnt use it a lot because I had to leave for sometime but as far as I used it I didnt notice something. The other option I am considering is another sbc, probably rpi4, for LMS. The cost is about the same for me because I was considering to buy another ssd to install in my mini in order to make the Linux os experiment. I hope I will manage to solve the heating up issue with a passive cooling case or any other passive cooling solution. So the question is LMS in old macOS/old Mac or in new sbc? Thank you Michael Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Would you suggest to install a Linux distribution on my Mac mini (Late 2009, SSD, 8GB RAM) running El Capitan at the moment (the last os that supports this model) in order to use it as LMS machine? Considering you have no experience with Linux, I'd definitely not recommend this. I'm pretty sure building the necessary SSL libraries would be easier than learning to handle a new OS on a Mac. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Man in a van wrote: > Yes, you can retain settings. > > Problem solving, info and help over here. > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=116 > > I can maybe help with some stuff if you get stuck > > ronnie Thank you so much Ronnie! I will try when I get back home (now I'm on vacation) in about 3 weeks. I think I will take advantage from your offer! Michael Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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DomieMic65 wrote: > Interesting! Thank you! > If I dont install it and run from the usb will it be responsive enough > running LMS only, to decide if I will move to proper installation! > Probably only practice will tell Yes, you can retain settings. Problem solving, info and help over here. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=116 I can maybe help with some stuff if you get stuck ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Man in a van wrote: > You can play with this on a usb stick > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspberry-pi-desktop/ > > I have it installed on an old Shuttle with Intel Celeron. > > It's possible to run LMS and Squeezelite and a few more bits and bobs. > > ronnie Interesting! Thank you! If I dont install it and run from the usb will it be responsive enough running LMS only, to decide if I will move to proper installation! Probably only practice will tell Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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You can play with this on a usb stick https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspberry-pi-desktop/ I have it installed on an old Shuttle with Intel Celeron. It's possible to run LMS and Squeezelite and a few more bits and bobs. ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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[I think this is a better thread for this question (I made the same in a thread I opened in the Beginners forum)... maybe it can be deleted from there if the admins think it should!] Would you suggest to install a Linux distribution on my Mac mini (Late 2009, SSD, 8GB RAM) running El Capitan at the moment (the last os that supports this model) in order to use it as LMS machine? What Os would you suggest? Daphile? Ubuntu? Now I use LMS installed on El Capitan but as said before there maybe some problems because of the old macOS. Would it be possible to dual boot? I have completely no experience in installing and using Linux. Thnx! Found this link about the exact same mac: https://www.zealfortechnology.com/2018/07/revive-old-mac-mini-2009-with-linux.html An option would be to leave the existing ssd as is in case I want to go back to macOS again and buy a new one to try Linux. Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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kidstypike wrote: > I have two too. I purchased a black one (the first was aluminium). I > also purchased a bag of 'hex head screws' > (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GQF8VCQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1), > and used those (see picture above), so I have a set of 8 torx screws > completely unused, PM me an address and I'll pop them in a jiffy bag > FOC. Thanks for the offer but I have followed your link and bought a pack as I shall be getting more cases VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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cpd73 wrote: > What about one of these? https://www.argon40.com/argon-one-pi4.html - > never used one, but seems to provide what you are looking for (or will, > when released). Personally I use the fan-shim from pimoroni (which can > be controlled to only switch on when temperate exceeds a certain value), > and this works great for me (my pi4 4gb is on 24x7). Yes, I've already seen that one, it's a bit "boy-racer" for me, I'll leave that for others to check out. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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kidstypike wrote: > I do have a Pi4 4GB but these run hot, until some manufacturer comes up > with a *similar* case that adds some method of cooling to a Pi4, I'll > stick to the Pi3B+. The Pi4 has been relegated to my spares drawer. :( What about one of these? https://www.argon40.com/argon-one-pi4.html - never used one, but seems to provide what you are looking for (or will, when released). Personally I use the fan-shim from pimoroni (which can be controlled to only switch on when temperate exceeds a certain value), and this works great for me (my pi4 4gb is on 24x7). cpd73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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d6jg wrote: > I have 2 of the Lincoln Binns cases now. I think it was me who found it. > Anyway, the first was perfect the second has the screw issue. Thats the > self tappers that they send you to put the rear and front faceplates on. > The case isnt fully predrilled. One of the screwheads has burred. I have two too. I purchased a black one (the first was aluminium). I also purchased a bag of 'hex head screws' (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GQF8VCQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8=1), and used those (see picture above), so I have a set of 8 torx screws completely unused, PM me an address and I'll pop them in a jiffy bag FOC. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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I have 2 of the Lincoln Binns cases now. I think it was me who found it. Anyway, the first was perfect the second has the screw issue. Thats the self tappers that they send you to put the rear and front faceplates on. The case isnt fully predrilled. One of the screwheads has burred. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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kidstypike wrote: > > Used as server only. > Thanks for sharing!! Mine too, used as server only at present. My humble setup below - and desperately looking for replacing 'experimental style' acrylic setup with a nice housing like yours which fits the USB-connected SSD. Let's see what Lincoln Binns is planning on...[image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190803/e0a169656eb3136fe7ce125d72c2366e.jpg] dr..mike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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dr..mike wrote: > Which mods? > How does the backplate and cable routing look like? > Is it used as server only or server/player? (I suspect the latter, with > the volume knob). > Did you manage to fit a SSD inside? (I'm struggling to find a case with > internal USB cable routing, my PI3b server/USB-mSATA SSD on a Pi-sized > board are still simply sitting in an open, stackable case) > > It would be great to understand more about your setup and maybe see a > pic of the back! Looks phantastic! It's not that good! The volume knob is just screwed on from the back of the front plate it does absolutely nothing. The LED is just a clear LED with the legs cut off and positioned immediately in front of the Pi's red power LED, so it's just acting as a light pipe. Used as server only. SSD just hangs down the back of the shelf, one of these, very small and compact: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B078SWJ3CF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1 Note this case is for a Pi3 only, I asked Lincoln Binns if they were going to manufacture a similar case for the Pi4, they said "Yes, for sure". However this was before it was realised that the Pi4 runs very hot, so will need to see what they come up with, if anything. More here, watch the video: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110346-A-nice-Pi-case-!!=936465=1#post936465 *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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kidstypike wrote: > I'm using a Pi3b+ at the moment, in a nice case (Lincoln Binns - with a > couple of mods by me) where all the wires exit unseen at the back, I > can't stand wires sticking out at all angles. > 27817 Which mods? How does the backplate and cable routing look like? Is it used as server only or server/player? (I suspect the latter, with the volume knob). Did you manage to fit a SSD inside? (I'm struggling to find a case with internal USB cable routing, my PI3b server/USB-mSATA SSD on a Pi-sized board are still simply sitting in an open, stackable case) It would be great to understand more about your setup and maybe see a pic of the back! Looks phantastic! Gesendet von meinem ONEPLUS A6003 mit Tapatalk dr..mike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Thanks for the links guys!! I think that I must wait a little before experimenting with pi4. I suppose that some kind of metal-heatsink cases will be available and/or some kind of software tweaks sometime in the next months. Hopefully... DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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d6jg wrote: > Id run a Pi3/4 as LMS but have my files stored in the NAS > You can point the Pi at the NAS using NFS.Yes, this is what I would do in the > first place. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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DomieMic65 wrote: > > > So the 4 with a heatsink attached how hot does it get running LMS? > Thnx! Worth a read: https://www.martinrowan.co.uk/2019/06/raspberry-pi-4-hot-new-release-too-hot-to-use-enclosed/ *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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DomieMic65 wrote: > I have a 3B+ now used for piCore in my Mac setup as I described above > and a 3B. > I guess I can use the B+ for LMS and B for piCore until the 4 issues get > solved.. > > Very nice case. > > So the 4 with a heatsink attached how hot does it get running LMS? > Thnx! Thread on Pi4 here: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110690-Pitastic=945271=1#post945271 *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Id run a Pi3/4 as LMS but have my files stored in the NAS You can point the Pi at the NAS using NFS. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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kidstypike wrote: > If your existing pi is a 3B+ I'd go with that. > > I'm using a Pi3b+ at the moment, in a nice case (Lincoln Binns - with a > couple of mods by me) where all the wires exit unseen at the back, I > can't stand wires sticking out at all angles. > > I do have a Pi4 4GB but these run hot, until some manufacturer comes up > with a *similar* case that adds some method of cooling to a Pi4, I'll > stick to the Pi3B+. The Pi4 has been relegated to my spares drawer. :( > > > 27817 I have a 3B+ now used for piCore in my Mac setup as I described above and a 3B. I guess I can use the B+ for LMS and B for piCore until the 4 issues get solved.. Very nice case. So the 4 with a heatsink attached how hot does it get running LMS? Thnx! DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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DomieMic65 wrote: > Thank you very much for your replies! > > I have already installed LMS on my old, late 2009 Mac mini (el Capitan) > streaming to my rpi3b+. > I have also a rpi3b laying around. > And I am very much considering of buying the rpi4b (4bg). > I have tried LMS to my Synology nas too but it was not a very good idea. > (Old version of LMS and slow performance) > > LMS options > 1) Mac mini with macOS as is. (Potential problems because of the old OS > outdated SSL libraries... ??. For now seems to work OK though.) > 2) Mac mini with Linux installed (needs wipe and dedicating the computer > to LMS only. Not that now I use it much anyway). It has 8GB of RAM and > 128gb ssd, so it runs quite fast despite its age for media only > machine. The drawback of this is that it isnt fanless and headless > (although this can be done I suppose) > 3) LMS on a RPi (my existing rpi or rpi4 for better performance). This > has the advantage of using piCore and no need for another Linux distro > for LMS. Yes? > 4) another better specd computer, SBC or not for LMS. (NUC, Odroid ... > ) running Windows or Linux. > > Any ideas / suggestion? If your existing pi is a 3B+ I'd go with that. I'm using a Pi3b+ at the moment, in a nice case (Lincoln Binns - with a couple of mods by me) where all the wires exit unseen at the back, I can't stand wires sticking out at all angles. I do have a Pi4 4GB but these run hot, until some manufacturer comes up with a *similar* case that adds some method of cooling to a Pi4, I'll stick to the Pi3B+. The Pi4 has been relegated to my spares drawer. :( 27817 +---+ |Filename: LMSserver.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27817| +---+ *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Thank you very much for your replies! I have already installed LMS on my old, late 2009 Mac mini (el Capitan) streaming to my rpi3b+. I have also a rpi3b laying around. And I am very much considering of buying the rpi4b (4bg). I have tried LMS to my Synology nas too but it was not a very good idea. (Old version of LMS and slow performance) LMS options 1) Mac mini with macOS as is. (Potential problems because of the old OS) 2) Mac mini with Linux installed (needs wipe and dedicating the computer to LMS only. Not that now I use it much anyway). It has 8GB of RAM and 128gb ssd, so it runs quite fast despite its age for media only machine. The drawback of this is that it isnt fanless and headless (although this can be done I suppose) 3) LMS on a RPi (my existing rpi or rpi4 for better performance). This has the advantage of using piCore and no need for another Linux distro for LMS. Yes? 4) another better specd computer, SBC or not for LMS. (NUC, Odroid ... ) running Windows or Linux. Any ideas / suggestion? DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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DomieMic65 wrote: > Is it possible to use two Rpis to setup a server/client setup with > piCore running in both? > In the first (rpi4 may be) running only LMS, with squeezelite and > everything that has to do with playing disabled, and the second only > with piCore without LMS installed? > > I am very new here so excuse my noob questions... A Rpi can be a player (squeezelite, already part of piCorePlayer), a server (LMS needs installing, dead easy), or both. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Yes, that's absolute possible. I even think it's the preferred setup. I've got a pi3 running with only lms laying around in the closet where all the wiring and electricity is situated. This one should be connected via a network cable. You might consider to power this one via a Ups to avoid sd card corruption when power fails. For the players I got a mix of pi, pi3, pi zero, an original boom, radio, transporter and SB2. Except for the transporter all playing via wifi. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Is it possible to use two Rpis to setup a server/client setup with piCore running in both? In the first (rpi4 may be) running only LMS, with squeezelite and everything that has to do with playing disabled, and the second only with piCore without LMS installed? I am very new here so excuse my noob questions... DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Over time I've tried several brands and models at various location, all with poor results. Perhaps just bad luck but I'm avoiding the powerline route. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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I have installed around 10 or 12 powerline ethernet units all are better than the wifi at there locations They sometimes lose their connections with each other but a power cycle of the units has up to now always been enough to reconnect. A reliable connection with these devices will depend on noise on the powerline, here in the UK we are relativly lucky in this sense. Jeff Edit: All TP Link *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.5 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U2 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1660 albums with 23087 songs by 5204 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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I tried many times with multiple brands and at the end ended up with a normal cable. Yes, no fun to install (there has been a reason in the first place to try powerline adapter) but no more frustration wins at the end. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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drmatt wrote: > I think it depends on implementation. Nothing but wired is as good as > wired, but powerline along a single mains loop will go through walls at > speeds WiFi can't touch, and the latency is probably similar if not > better. > > Remember though powerline devices are hubs not switches, so if you use > more than two expect contention... > > > -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- Powerline's also have a habit of physically failing more frequently than wi-fi. I used to use a pair to get a connection behind my TV but kept having to replace so I ended up running a cable there and invested in a pair of decent APs to service the house with wi-fi. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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edwin2006 wrote: > Sorry to say, but powerline is not as reliable as wired. If I had to > make a choice between powerline or wifi I would choose wifi. > Are you able to make a temporarily test config with cable connection?I think > it depends on implementation. Nothing but wired is as good as wired, but powerline along a single mains loop will go through walls at speeds WiFi can't touch, and the latency is probably similar if not better. Remember though powerline devices are hubs not switches, so if you use more than two expect contention... -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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A bit late to this discussion, but after many years running LMS on a "full fat" SuperMicro x86 Ubuntu server I migrated last year to an Odroid HC1 and couldn't be happier. It has an integral 2.5" disk mount / massive aluminium heatsink and runs cool, quiet and maintenance free using a very stable Armbian / Debian Linux distribution. Copes easily with a 13.5K track / 9 player system. If I was making the choice now I'd probably go for an Odroid HC2, which hadn't been launched when I bought my HC1 - essentially the same thing but with added support for 3.5" / 12V disks rather than the HC1's 2.5" / 5V limit. There are certainly faster and slightly cheaper options with more "features" available (I also own several generations of Raspberry Pi and will probably get a Pi4 for use as a TVHeadend server) and you do need some basic Linux knowledge to get the thing running properly compared to PcP / max2play, but for a robust, well-engineered mini-server device with decent heat dissipation I think the HC1 or HC2 take some beating. That said, for a first Linux system then the Pi4 / PcP option would definitely be my recommendation and sounds like it's running very well for you - welcome to the world of SBCs :) Odroid HC1 / Armbian Stretch LMS & LocalPlayer 4x Slim Devices SB3 (White) 1x Boom, 1x Radio 2x Joggler + Squeezeplay / Squeezelite + Topping TP30 florca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Sorry to say, but powerline is not as reliable as wired. If I had to make a choice between powerline or wifi I would choose wifi. Are you able to make a temporarily test config with cable connection? *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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d6jg wrote: > Wired or wireless ? Most of the network is wired (Powerline) 2 of the units are wireless; thanks for the (obvious) next step in troubleshooting! :) fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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fphredd wrote: > I used to have LMS running on a ReadyNAS Pro x86. Syncing was always > spot on. > > Moved to LMS on Pi3b+ w Max2Play (no player running), 2 Touches, 1 > Radio, 3 instances of Squeezelite. With the current setup, when I look > to sync all the players (via Group) there is generally one or 2 that are > slightly behind. Ik it's possibly a network issue, but as I didn't > notice this before, looking for other possible culprits...Thinking the > Pi should be fine running this? > > Thanks for any suggestions. Wired or wireless ? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Well that was easy (ish) The Pi, SSD and a usb enclosure for the SSD arrived this morning and it's all up and running and currently copying my library from the old machine to the SSD. When the adaptor board arrives I'll move the SSD onto that and put it all in a little case. Thanks for all the help guys, I couldn't have done it without you. Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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I used to have LMS running on a ReadyNAS Pro x86. Syncing was always spot on. Moved to LMS on Pi3b+ w Max2Play (no player running), 2 Touches, 1 Radio, 3 instances of Squeezelite. With the current setup, when I look to sync all the players (via Group) there is generally one or 2 that are slightly behind. Ik it's possibly a network issue, but as I didn't notice this before, looking for other possible culprits...Thinking the Pi should be fine running this? Thanks for any suggestions. fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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As d6jg suggested, is there a benefit to have the LMS cache and prefs on the SSD? SSD instead of SD card? Sure! The cache folder is the folder where LMS does almost all write accesses, and where the database is being stored. The faster it is, the quicker the scan would run, or searches would return results etc. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Well everything is ordered so we'll see how I get on setting it up. As d6jg suggested, is there a benefit to have the LMS cache and prefs on the SSD? Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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True "other lms implementations are available" There's also a docker variant out there. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Also consider max2play as OS for the Raspberry Pi. Everything you need is readily available. Compared to Picoreplayer the configuration web-interface is much better (and responsive). In my setup max2play was more reliable as LMS server on a Pi. Picoreplayer however was more reliable as Squeezelite player. There is a modest licence fee for max2play, but its easily worth it in my opinion. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk cramcram's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22906 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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d6jg wrote: > There is a school of thought that says an SSD as the storage is overkill > for LMS. Not much writing happens so the benefit is really only limited > to scanning time - unless you move the library files to the SSD (this is > possible in pCP)I would agree, but on the basis that spinning disks are dead > in the water and SSD is silent and lower power if you can afford it I would always suggest SSD for all but high scaled lowest performance archival roles. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > Sorry I deleted that post because I spoke to my brother and ordered a > mSata SSD and mounting board. > > I'll let you know how it goes. > > Craig There is a school of thought that says an SSD as the storage is overkill for LMS. Not much writing happens so the benefit is really only limited to scanning time - unless you move the library files to the SSD (this is possible in pCP) VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Sorry I deleted that post because I spoke to my brother and ordered a mSata SSD and mounting board. I'll let you know how it goes. Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > Ok one last question ;-) > > If I'm going with a SSD should I get an external USB drive and find a > case to house both or get an expansion board (X820?) and use a sata SSD? > which I guess would limit me to the X820 case. > > Craig I use one of these:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B078STRHBX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1 *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Ok one last question ;-) If I'm going with a SSD should I get an external USB drive and find a case to house both or get an expansion board (Geekworm X820?) and use a sata SSD? which I guess would limit me to the Geekworm case. Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > My library is around 19000 tracks in flac so they're all streamed native > unless they're hi res ones streaming to SB2's which are transcoded I > think. > > I'm not a big use of playlists. > > CraigYou get to choose any hardware you like then! I'd grab a Pi3 in your shoes. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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My library is around 19000 tracks in flac so they're all streamed native unless they're hi res ones streaming to SB2's which are transcoded I think. I'm not a big use of playlists. Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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I would say that anything since the rPI v2 is more than adequate for an infinite sized lms library. The only thing you gain from upgrading beyond there is the ability to support more resampled/transcoded streams (if that's your thing) or working with *huge* playlists. And when working with huge playlists you need available ram more than CPU MHz. Tbh I think the rPI 4 is a step beyond the original purpose of the device. It's a different product, fast, capable, but runs hot and needs active cooling, has a performance oriented chipset, lots of I/o capacity.. it's no longer a hobbyist product. (Apart from the grrr sdcard dependency.) I'm not sure I want one. I don't need 4k output and I've not hit a limit that matters on the pi3+... -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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ok thanks, So it looks like I'd be better with the Pi3B+ then add a SSD for a tiny silent server. I'll think I'll get that passed the boss :-) Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > Ok thanks, what memory spec would be best? and will I be able to share > the storage on the network so I can do my ripping from my main pc? > > Craig Yes to sharing if you install Samba which is easy. Pi4 - couple of points The version of pCp that works with Pi4 is beta only at this stage The usb-c power circuit on launch version of Pi4 does not conform to the standard. No issue if you use the official Pi4 charger. Pi4 runs hot. Work is being carried out on its thermal characteristics. May not be an issue in normal use but may be an issue during scanning and possibly when transcoding. There are currently very few cases for Pi4. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > Ok thanks, what memory spec would be best? and will I be able to share > the storage on the network so I can do my ripping from my main pc? > > Craig I purchased the 4GB version, but I don't know how much better/quicker it is over the 2GB version. Something to take into account is the new Pi4's run hot, if you intend to put it in a case, it would benefit from some sort of cooling. A Pi3B+ is actually quite good enough with a medium sized library, (say 50K tracks), well tried and tested, more choice of cases etc.. No USB3 though. Yes, you can rip on your PC, and transfer the music files to the HDD/SSD attached to the Pi using Windows Explorer or similar. You need to install and configure SAMBA on the Pi, dead simple, everything is done in a web browser on your PC. Always plenty of help here. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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kidstypike wrote: > piCorePlayer *IS* the operating system, you don't need NOOBS. Ok thanks, what memory spec would be best? and will I be able to share the storage on the network so I can do my ripping from my main pc? Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > OK so it looks like Pi4's are available in 1,2 or 4G memory configs, > If I bought one of these then I need to put LMS and PiCorePlayer on it > but do I need an OS too? the one I was looking at offers NOOBS on a card > for £8. > > I'd just have a play around with storage that I already have until I'm > ready to go with it. > > Does that sound like a good plan? > > Craig piCorePlayer *IS* the operating system, you don't need NOOBS. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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OK so it looks like Pi4's are available in 1,2 or 4G memory configs, If I bought one of these then I need to put LMS and PiCorePlayer on it but do I need an OS too? the one I was looking at offers NOOBS on a card for £8. I'd just have a play around with storage that I already have until I'm ready to go with it. Does that sound like a good plan? Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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ho_kuku wrote: > Been streaming from my Synology NAS for years. Got the Odroid N2 > orginally for retro gaming purpose - but I was damn free and bored one > day. > > Installed dietpi on the N2 and run LMS. Pointed LMS to the music library > on my existing NAS. > > It was 1) fast and 2) sq was so much better when streaming from the N2. > So much that I beat myself in the head a few times to make sure that I > am not imagining. Smooth and quiet - harshness gone - darker background. > I had linear power supply powering both the NAS and Odroid. > > I concluded that streaming from a NAS for convenience sake is ok. If you > are going for SQ - I suggest running a dedicated machine just for music. > I easily get a 20-30% bump in sq by moving LMS from the NAS to Odroid. > To top it up - this Odroid N2 is many times more powerful than the pi- > used very little power. > > I suggest to also use a linear power supply and better network cables if > possible. > > The Odroid has side stepped most (if not all) problems that plagued RPi. > Mostly importantly - its snappy.Fwiw Rpi4 uses the same CPU cores as the > odroid n2. I'll make no comments on the sound quality, it being provably identical between the two products and entirely dependent on the quality of your DAC not the streamer source. One thing I do like about the odroid is the chance to buy emmc storage for it, this will solve the remaining RPI major weakness: sdcard.. but it's nearly three times the price of the pi so you get what you pay for I guess. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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The only time I've heard of people having performance issues with Pi's running lms was back in the days of Pi v1 and when using crazy long playlists. And then it's really about memory consumption I think. On the other hand I've heard plenty of people complain about the performance of lms on low end NAS platforms. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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ho_kuku wrote: > > The Odroid has side stepped most (if not all) problems that plagued RPi. > Mostly importantly - its snappy. Haven't used an Odroid, but my rPi3B+ is very snappy with about 111,000 music files. Not noticeably different from LMS running on a Win10 (64) bit computer with 8 cores and 32GB RAM. That's why the rPi impressed me so much as a LMS server. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Been streaming from my Synology NAS for years. Had the Odroid N2 for retro gaming purpose - but I was damn free and bored one day. Installed dietpi on the N2 and run LMS. Had the LMS pointed to my music library on my existing NAS. It was 1) fast and 2) sq was so much better when streaming from the N2. So much that I beat myself in the head a few times to make sure that I am not imagining. Smooth and quiet - harshness gone - darker background. I had linear power supply powering both the NAS and Odroid. I concluded that streaming from a NAS for convenience sake is ok (for convenient sake). If you are going for SQ - I suggest running a dedicated machine just for music. I easily get a 20-30% bump in sq by moving LMS from the NAS to Odroid. To top it up - this Odroid N2 is many times more powerful than the pi- used very little power. I suggest to also use a linear power supply and better network cables if possible. ho_kuku's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > Thanks for the replies, > > My library is currently 460G so if I went with the Pi would I be able to > attach a SSD or would a large USB flash drive be a better option? > > Craig Because of a problem with my main LMS server, for the last 4 months I've run a pi3B+ with attached 4TB USB drive (holding a library of about 1.5TB of audio files, so about 3 times what you have). It uses piCorePlayer setup. Easy to setup. Relatively fast when scanning library, and perfectly good for browsing, etc. I have become very impressed with this little setup. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Craig wrote: > Thanks for the replies, > > My library is currently 460G so if I went with the Pi would I be able to > attach a SSD or would a large USB flash drive be a better option? > > Craig With that sized library I think I would use a Pi3 coupled with a NAS. Install pCP on the Pi Resize the SD card Add additional file system support Mount the NAS via NFS or CIFS if you must Add LMS to the Pi and point it at the mounted drive (All of the above can be done via web tools) Alternatively you could use an SSD but backup might then become an issue. Easier to plug something into the NAS for backup purposes which can run and not affect LMS. As Michael said a NAS can run also LMS. Synology or QNAP are quite well supported but I'd still go for the Pi as there can be issues with upgrades on NAS that cause problems with LMS. In my case I have an old HP Microserver with SSD running LMS but it works in conjunction with an older QNAP (that doesn't now support LMS) via NFS. I do this as the HP also provides direct CD ripping to the NAS but otherwise I'd run a Pi with the QNAP. I think Michael does something similar. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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Thanks for the replies, My library is currently 460G so if I went with the Pi would I be able to attach a SSD or would a large USB flash drive be a better option? Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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What are my best options, I just need to run LMS and offer a network share of my music drive to other machines. Cheap: A Raspberry Pi with piCorePlayer. Less cheap: a NAS (Synology, QNAP have decent support for new LMS packages). -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
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I've had LMS running on an old XP PC for many years but house renovating has caused suggestions of something smaller. What are my best options, I just need to run LMS and offer a network share of my music drive to other machines. Thanks Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110796 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
