hey guys,
thanks to all who have replied to my issue w/ the jumpy cursor. I
haven't been able to test out the responses I have gotten because I have
been sick in bed for the last couple days. Will reply once I am coherent
enough to read the e-mails.
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 11:39 +0200, Bernie Innoce
Hello,
while some important activities are missing, Sugar can be installed and
used in Ubuntu 8.04 out of the official Universe repositories. It is a
very easy way of trying it out.
The packages to install are sugar-emulator and sugar-activities.
The latter is a metapackage depending on
sugar
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Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
| On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 07:39:13PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
|> On Monday 28 April 2008, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
|>> Do we really want to encourage HTML email? :-P
|> We should add the option, but i would prefer plaintex
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 07:39:13PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> On Monday 28 April 2008, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> > Do we really want to encourage HTML email? :-P
>
> We should add the option, but i would prefer plaintext as the default.
I wasn't really serious about plain text email. I mean,
On Monday 28 April 2008, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:32:45AM +1000, Martin Edmund Sevior wrote:
> > You can immediately reuse the AbiWidget from libabiword for
> > your rich text HTML editor. libabiword has a very capable
> > export content to HT
Martin Edmund Sevior wrote:
>
> Hi Shikar,
> You can immediately reuse the AbiWidget from libabiword for
> your rich text HTML editor. libabiword has a very capable export
> content to HTML feature. You can copy and paste the relevant parts
> from the Write program to have the same inte
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:39:23PM -0700, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> Do we really want to encourage HTML email?
+1 to plain text email. It seems one relevant concern is security.
Wikipedia's page is pretty good background reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_e-mail
...and one pro-HTML mail
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:32:45AM +1000, Martin Edmund Sevior wrote:
> You can immediately reuse the AbiWidget from libabiword for
> your rich text HTML editor. libabiword has a very capable
> export content to HTML feature. You can copy and paste the
> relev
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:12:31PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:26:21PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:08:04PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > Can calls to self._mixer or self._master fail even when these attributes
> > > are not None?
> >
Hi Shikar,
You can immediately reuse the AbiWidget from libabiword for your rich
text HTML editor. libabiword has a very capable export content to HTML feature.
You can copy and paste the relevant parts from the Write program to have the
same interface as Write if you wish.
Cheers
Ma
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:31:00PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> Well, what would happen if people installed lots of activities
> supporting '*/*'?
...
> * Would our Palettes scroll, or scale, or run off screen, or ...?
I think the UI is probably going to lag behind gracefully handling
this case
On 13.04.2008, at 02:56, Patrick Dubroy wrote:
> For the last couple months, I've been working on the higher-level
> support for the XO Pen Tablet (for more information, see here:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Pen_Tablet_Support).
>
> If anyone's interested, I've got a couple of activities available
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 00:19 +0200, Shikhar wrote:
> J.M. Maurer wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0700, ValS wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for this wonderful program! Speaking as an XO user, I am
> >> requesting a feature that I imagine would benefit any users that have
> >> internet access.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:32:48PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:11:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > What sort of activity can handle */*?
>
> Distribute. The journal ;). Possibly others; I don't know. I'm not
> really the best person to justify #6753.
Distribut
J.M. Maurer wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0700, ValS wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this wonderful program! Speaking as an XO user, I am
>> requesting a feature that I imagine would benefit any users that have
>> internet access. I would like to be able to use the Write function,
>> and then
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:26:21PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:08:04PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > Can calls to self._mixer or self._master fail even when these attributes
> > are not None?
>
> It doesn't appear a concern from the existing hardwaremanager.py code,
I'm neither a child nor a teacher, so this opinion is personal :
What you want to avoid is having the user decide "my intent has been
ignored", when in fact it is something "under the covers" that is
delaying the completion of his intent.
The best way I can think of to avoid the user making a w
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:11:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> What sort of activity can handle */*?
Distribute. The journal ;). Possibly others; I don't know. I'm not
really the best person to justify #6753.
> Can you think of any nasty things that activities might be able to
> do by advert
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:08:04PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> Can calls to self._mixer or self._master fail even when these attributes
> are not None?
It doesn't appear a concern from the existing hardwaremanager.py code,
and not in practice: I've tested checking/changing the volume in a few
ac
Any interest in the themes/topics Tomeu outlined in his email about
Sugar performance? Lots of interesting things to explore that would be
of real value to the project.
-walter
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Patrick Jahenr
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> We are a group of 15 collegi
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0700, ValS wrote:
> Thanks for this wonderful program! Speaking as an XO user, I am
> requesting a feature that I imagine would benefit any users that have
> internet access. I would like to be able to use the Write function,
> and then send what I have written in
First, thanks Tomeu (and others involved), that's a fab list that may
be coming down the pipe. I'd followed some of those items through
joyride, but others were silent runners for me. Great to hear about
them!
On 28 Apr 2008, at 17:09, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> Anyone is of course welcome to j
And the actual patch...
Marco
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The new paths are:
>
> '@prefix@/share/sugar/activities:' \
> '@prefix@/lib64/sugar/activities:' \
> '@prefix@/lib/sugar/activities'
>
> This provides an home for arch specific act
The new paths are:
'@prefix@/share/sugar/activities:' \
'@prefix@/lib64/sugar/activities:' \
'@prefix@/lib/sugar/activities'
This provides an home for arch specific activities. Also using
"activities" for something sugar specific was a bad idea, so it's now
"sugar/activities".
Marco
Incidentally, this whole topic of "getting Sugar to play nicely with
Linux" was the *exact* topic of my talk at FISL this year. The slides
can be downloaded from
http://download.laptop.org/content/conf/20080417-fisl08/cscott/ ; I'm
under impression that the actual video will be available at some p
What sort of activity can handle */*? Can you think of any nasty things
that activities might be able to do by advertising suppport for '*/*'?
Michael
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are not None?
Also, what happens if an exception is thrown by, say, Device.__init__()?
Thanks,
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Thanks for this wonderful program! Speaking as an XO user, I am requesting
a feature that I imagine would benefit any users that have internet
access. I would like to be able to use the Write function, and then send
what I have written in an email as an attachment. That way, I can send it
to o
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> me, tomeu and Marco engaged in a discussion about Sugar performance
> off-list, but at some point we thought it would be better material
> for a public discussion.
>
> Each one of us has been interested in
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that this work (should be) the same, no matter what window manager
> we end up using. Window managers have been pretty interchangeable
> throughout X's history. That's what the ICCCM/EWMH's documents are all
> about.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect we're using dbus in some places where we should just be using
> the normal ICCCM/EWMH conventions.
Activities/applications can run fine without DBus right now. The main
problem are a couple of non standard X prope
We should be careful as we make this analysis that we don't overly
bias the discussion towards the perception of developers rather than
the children and teachers. Perhaps Carla can chime in based on her
experiences in NIgeria, India, Peru, and Mexico.
-walter
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Tom
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One thing I observe is that it takes considerable time from when I
> click on 'Shutdown' in the Main view, until the XO actually stops.
Thank you, I'd like to ask the people with actual machines to write to
this list wi
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 16:47 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If someone would like to go ahead and try replacing matchbox with
> > metacity, would be great ;)
>
> And I'd be happy to help out whoever attempts it bo
One thing I observe is that it takes considerable time from when I
click on 'Shutdown' in the Main view, until the XO actually stops.
Happened to see the Linux shutdown messages (Is there a way to ask
for these instead of the "don't do these" screen?) and it seemed to
several times attempt to d
Note I understand that metacity can be configured to use a dbus/gconf
version, rather than bringing in the dread CORBA/bonobo dependencies
we've worked so hard to avoid. So don't let ldd mislead you that it
isn't worth a try; it is.
So Metacity is clearly one of the contenders. This wasn't an op
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If someone would like to go ahead and try replacing matchbox with
> metacity, would be great ;)
And I'd be happy to help out whoever attempts it both on the Sugar and
on the wm/X side... :)
Marco
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 10:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
> > I must have missed the post you refer to. It has never been the
> > position of the core Sugar team--that I am aware of--to preclude the
> > running of standard
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 10:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
> I must have missed the post you refer to. It has never been the
> position of the core Sugar team--that I am aware of--to preclude the
> running of standard Linux apps. We even went so far as to hire a
> contractor to look at various ways t
I must have missed the post you refer to. It has never been the
position of the core Sugar team--that I am aware of--to preclude the
running of standard Linux apps. We even went so far as to hire a
contractor to look at various ways to facilitate the running of
standard X apps last summer---althoug
Add speaker device and icon by default, as in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Frame#07
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src/hardware/hardwaremanager.py | 31 +-
src/model/devices/Makefile.am |4 +-
src/model/devices/devicesmodel.py |3 +
src/model/devices/speaker.py | 59 ++
sr
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:49:12PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Martin Dengler
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > +self.palette = SpeakerPalette(_('My Speakers'), model=model)
> > +self.set_palette(self.palette)
>
> 'set_palette' is the setter f
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Martin Dengler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +self.palette = SpeakerPalette(_('My Speakers'), model=model)
> +self.set_palette(self.palette)
'set_palette' is the setter for the 'palette' property, so the second
line shouldn't be needed.
> +
Hello,
me, tomeu and Marco engaged in a discussion about Sugar performance
off-list, but at some point we thought it would be better material
for a public discussion.
Each one of us has been interested in performance for a long time,
working in different areas and with different perspectives. To
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll say that the impression that I have received as an outsider is that
> > the people working on Sugar have not at all been interested in
> > compatibility with normal linux software.
>
> It's more accurate to say tha
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> We plan to work on this soon. The plan is to have a delay since the
> mouse enters in the corner and before the frame is brought up. This
> delay will be configurable with an slide in the control panel.
That seems like a great idea to improve usability.
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somebody who implemented Sugar in the early days clearly didn't
> understand the X11 networked graphics model -- or didn't mind breaking
> it for expediency -- but they only broke it in small ways, which are
> pretty eas
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:39 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in fact there was a post within the last week claiming that it would be a
> bad idea to make sugar able to use unmodified linux software becouse that
> would mean that the educational software and activities being written for
> suga
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> thanks Carol, this instruction for disabling the corner sensitivity is
> extremely useful! I may use it in the custom build I roll out, some 3-4
> months from now.
We plan to work on this soon. The plan is to have a delay
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll say that the impression that I have received as an outsider is that
> > the people working on Sugar have not at all been interested in
> > compatibility with normal linux software.
>
> It's more accurate to say tha
r+
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After much ado, here is the resulting patch.
>
> - Eben
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
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