Re: [sugar] Dropped jhbuild support for Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 7.10

2008-12-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:41, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Reinier Heeres rein...@heeres.eu wrote: Marco, Support for Ubuntu 8.04 also seems to have been dropped (in

Re: [sugar] multiple lists

2008-12-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Yama, On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I love this trend to sugar/olpc-specific threads, but 1) I do not have a Sugar OLPC filter in my brain. I guess there are some specific subjects, maybe hardware - OLPC, Sugar Activities and code -

Re: [sugar] Sugar Design Meeting REMINDER (Now)

2008-12-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Maybe this? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/12542/ I would like to ask something in exchange: please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for non-olpc specific stuff and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for olpc-specific stuff. And please redirect conversations accordingly and inform other people when needed. Thanks,

Re: [sugar] notes on 8.2.0, specifically 767 (was 8.2.1)

2008-11-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Firefox 2 and 3 are only slightly sugarized. GS - True. It is what it is and no plans to make big changes here AFAIK. greg -- i think you answered your own question. the issues raised

Re: [sugar] AbiWord 2.6.5 pushed, please test!

2008-11-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM, J.M. Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Greg, Can you make a .xo file that people can download and install via the browser on the XO? You don't need an .xo update for this (the current Write version will work just fine), but an libabiword RPM update. I'm not

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Proposal: IRC channel and mailing list for support

2008-11-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:03 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looked like Olin University was well represented by smart and passionate individuals last week. I would like to nominate the Olin team to work on developing user communication channels. After all, if open source is

Re: [sugar] Fwd: Roadmap update

2008-11-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[adding iaep to cc] On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Riccardo Lucchese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (apologises to Marco for sending him two copies as I forgot to cc the list on my first try) On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded

Re: [sugar] [Sugar-devel] View Source

2008-11-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[cc'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] because this subject is of importance to activity authors and I know many haven't yet subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please subscribe!] On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22.11.2008, at 16:35, Simon Schampijer wrote: Some

Re: [sugar] Python Zip Library

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Nolan, how is work going? Managed to get that issue solved with Emiliano's hint? Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Emiliano Pastorino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this helps: http://www.python.org/doc/2.5/tut/node13.html#SECTION001340 It's a multi

Re: [sugar] Comments on gregdek's blog

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At http://gregdek.livejournal.com/39468.html you wrote about XoIRC not having highlight notifications. That landed recently in Sugar git master and XoIRC, so if you run the crack-of-the-day or wait for a release you

Re: [sugar] Sugar used for kids with disabilities.

2008-11-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, most of the people in the SugarLabs community is unable to do anything about OLPC's hardware, but as was commented in this thread, there's lots of work to do in the software side. Perhaps someone will volunteer to lead an Accessibility Team? See http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Teams

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this is awesome feedback. I'm going to speak from the SugarLabs perspective. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Elsa Culler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Last night at sugarcamp, we(people from the Olin college OLPC chapter) were asked to come up with a list of roadblocks we have run into

Re: [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elsa Culler wrote: Hi, Last night at sugarcamp, we(people from the Olin college OLPC chapter) were asked to come up with a list of

Re: [sugar] I miss people already

2008-11-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
I know I may be the last one to say that, but Mel is awesome. Tomeu On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm quoting from Mel blog post (go read it *now* !): http://blog.melchua.com/2008/11/22/instead-of-brainstorming/ Me too, Mel! Marco

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacit_knowledge) for an open source developer. So one of the ways we help people is turn it into Explicit Knowledge by explaining what it is and how to use. All very good points, thanks! Tomeu On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [sugar] Differents behaviours of my application

2008-11-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
that may help you: http://code.google.com/p/geoquiz/source/browse/trunk/olpcgames/activity.py Regards, Tomeu 2008/11/19 Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/11/19 Aleix Palet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, now with Gary's code when i do resume i get the desired behaviour in the __init__

Re: [sugar] How to get into CIC building to attend Sugarcamp?

2008-11-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Joseph A. Feinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm planning to attend the Sugarcamp starting tomorrow, on Thursday. How to go through the building's security to get into the building? Will security guards have attendees' lists, or there is a # to call, etc.? The

[sugar] hackaton ideas

2008-11-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, started to add some ideas to work on this evening: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp_hackathon#Stuff_to_hack_on Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Problem with initial push to central repository

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Lewis, just looked in the server and seems to me like you have the wrong permissions. AFAICS, the repository is write accessible to the group 'bundleactivity' but the user 'urcompsci' is not in that group. So I would send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking about what to do. Recently, several

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
desarroladores en Paris, por si alguien necesita. Wow, this is getting interesting ;) Thanks, Tomeu Bests, saludos Samy Quoting Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Lionel and all OLPC France, excuse me if this comes too late or isn't to the point, but would like to propose to hack on a mind

[sugar] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet somewhere in Cambridge for dinner. So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not far from Davis Square? My plane is scheduled

[sugar] Sugarizing Labyrinth (was Re: OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris)

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, have created a git repo in gitorious that could be used as an starting point: http://gitorious.org/projects/labyrinth-sugar We should notify the Labyrinth authors of this effort at some (early) point. Regards, Tomeu On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [sugar] [Techteam] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
to me. Other opinions? Tomeu Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet somewhere

Re: [sugar] OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris

2008-11-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Lionel and all OLPC France, excuse me if this comes too late or isn't to the point, but would like to propose to hack on a mind mapping activity during the CodeCamp in Paris. I think this project has the appeal of being in direct connection to the needs in the field. Teachers from Uruguay,

[sugar] OLPC / Sugar Labs coordination meeting

2008-11-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, the time slot in http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp/Schedule (Saturday) doesn't match what Gregorio said he could attend to. What about Friday instead? Tues - Friday except for: Tuesday 10:30 - 12:30 and Wed. 9:30 - 11:30, 1:30 - 3:30 Regards, Tomeu

[sugar] SugarCamp

2008-11-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Fellow Sugarites, I must say that I'm pretty much surprised as to how the SugarCamp planning is being done. My personal opinion is that SugarLabs is a global organization and cannot behave as if it had headquarters in a single place because it hasn't. SL contributors are going to travel from

Re: [sugar] SugarCamp

2008-11-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Sugarites, I must say that I'm pretty much surprised as to how the SugarCamp planning is being done. My personal opinion is that SugarLabs is a global organization and cannot behave as if it had headquarters

Re: [sugar] SugarCamp

2008-11-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marco et al, re: I'd like to propose another one: - How Sugar Labs could better work with OLPC in satisfying their customers. (Greg Smith) Marco I'm open to it if there is interest and time available. I'd

Re: [sugar] datastore/journal questions

2008-11-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Sameer, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble getting to wiki.laptop.org, so here are a couple of urgent questions: 1) How do I backup the entire datastore on an XO to a USB drive? cp -rf ~/.sugar/default/datastore /media/name of usb

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar Camp Cambridge 17-21 Nov

2008-11-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Rob, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Robert McQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bernie, Brendan, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Brendan R. Powers wrote: I would like to propose a discussion on making the collaboration a bit more standards compliant. The idea would be to get sugar to function

Re: [sugar] Sugar Camp Cambridge 17-21 Nov

2008-11-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Awesome! Thanks Bernie for taking this task. See you soon, Tomeu On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, while the exact schedule is still being work out, we now have a confirmed location: Training Room, 5th floor, Cambridge Innovation Center

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar Camp Cambridge 17-21 Nov

2008-11-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Brendan R. Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to propose a discussion on making the collaboration a bit more standards compliant. The idea would be to get sugar to function more like a standard jabber IM client, as well as using existing standards in

[sugar] [PATCH] Remove the hacks for asking the X server for screenshots and use gtk.Widget.get_snapshot() instead.

2008-11-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, just so this patch doesn't get lost while we rebase to F10, we should apply it once OLPC rebases and check the performance improvement. Regards, Tomeu From 96b5ec2fac8081fc41c698a347d7c8f529f9da70 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:34:34

Re: [sugar] updating telepathy in OLPC's F9-based images

2008-11-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:29, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm having some trouble updating the telepathy packages in joyride, which is a prerequisite for updating sugar. My plan was to update

[sugar] updating telepathy in OLPC's F9-based images

2008-11-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, I'm having some trouble updating the telepathy packages in joyride, which is a prerequisite for updating sugar. My plan was to update the telepathy* packages in F9 to the sources of those packages in F10, but I'm having some trouble in getting commit permissions to do that. Perhaps

Re: [sugar] Reducing activity sharing boilderplate code

2008-11-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to push some of the code required for sharing into sugar-toolkit, for example: def _list_tubes_reply_cb(self, tubes): for tube_info in tubes: self._new_tube_cb(*tube_info) If I put this

[sugar] new journal

2008-11-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Scott, do you have any news for us about the work on your journal+datastore replacement? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] sugar 0.83 in joyride

2008-11-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
? If there's any problem with this, please explain. Thanks, Tomeu On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Masters of Joyride, have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides. Built locally these rpms. Anybody sees any problem if I

Re: [sugar] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might have hit with a generous donor that might pay my way... Could you confirm dates so they can get me tickets early while they are

Re: [sugar] sugar 0.83 in joyride

2008-11-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This certainly seems like a reasonable solution. Awesome, how much time would it take to get implemented? Thanks, Tomeu On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, Hi again, I'm thinking that perhaps best would

Re: [sugar] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Mel Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like an *excellent* plan to me! I'd be certainly glad to participate and I'm sure will be the same for Tomeu. We can also involve some Boston local activity authors to help out mentoring. Great! So if Tomeu or any

[sugar] sugar 0.83 in joyride

2008-11-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Dear Masters of Joyride, have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides. Built locally these rpms. Anybody sees any problem if I build them in the OLPC-3 branch? Or should be in F9? Or F10 if we intend to switch soon? What if we decide to do a 8.2.1 release?

[sugar] [PATCH] Add notifications to XoIRC

2008-11-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, here are two patches to XoIRC: 0001-Fix-windows.patch windows.py and widgets.py references each other, so windows cannot use a constant from widgets in its method declaration. 0002-Emit-a-notification-when-someone-addresses-to-us-and.patch Send a (very simple) notification when a message

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Add notifications to XoIRC

2008-11-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Ahem, and here are the actual patches. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, here are two patches to XoIRC: 0001-Fix-windows.patch windows.py and widgets.py references each other, so windows cannot use a constant from widgets in its method declaration

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] November meeting

2008-11-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I would like to propose that we have a talk about this in the few next days. What about tomorrow at 17.00 UTC in #sugar-meeting

Re: [sugar] How to make my application subclass of Sugar.activity.activity

2008-11-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Aleix, based on your questions, I would recommend you the following: - install the Edit activity, it's a very simple activity example. Just click on http://dev.laptop.org/~tomeu/Edit-2.xo from the Browse activity. - go to ~/Activities/Edit.activity and check out the contents of that bundle,

Re: [sugar] November meeting

2008-11-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:48 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In light of the cancellation of the formal XO meeting that was tentatively scheduled for November. It make sense to have an informal community meeting instead. Micheal Stone and C. Scott have taken the initiative to start

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] November meeting

2008-11-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I would like to propose that we have a talk about this in the few next days. What about tomorrow at 17.00 UTC in #sugar-meeting at FreeNode? Scott, Michael, Chris: you are the people that are pushing

Re: [sugar] Sucrose 0.83.1 Development Release

2008-11-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:30 PM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: This is our first Development Release in the 0.84 cycle. The code base has seen many refactoring efforts to improve the platform. Will OLPC joyride builds pick up the new Sucrose? Sure. Hopefully soon.

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

2008-10-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:19 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a Subuntu live usb. Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted information on downloading and building the usb at

Re: [sugar] Greetings from New Hampsire

2008-10-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[sorry about the late reply] On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Brendan R. Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On larger installations, schools will want sugar to integrate with there existing file and print servers, as

Re: [sugar] [pymaemo] modifications to python and use on OLPC's XO

2008-10-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[cc'ing sugar] On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Anderson Lizardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm a developer in the Sugar [0] project and we have some performance issues in the OLPC's XO [1] that I think

Re: [sugar] Proper D-Bus usage (was Re: October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1)

2008-10-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29.10.2008, at 03:42, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could easily hack the DS in 0.83 to return D-Bus strings for standard properties

Re: [sugar] Proper D-Bus usage (was Re: October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1)

2008-10-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: And see xattrs for a design that avoids this mess. xattr values are also just bytes with no type, and so will have exactly the same problem

Re: [sugar] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on

[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore 0.83

2008-10-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, this release features a rewritten codebase that should bring improvements in reliability, performance and maintainability. Details at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/DatastoreRewrite == Source ==

Re: [sugar] October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1

2008-10-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, some of the API uses variable types, so even if the interface does not change literally, changing the types involved poses a problem.

Re: [sugar] October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1

2008-10-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I have stopped work on the DS and Journal because OLPC is apparently funding the development of a replacement for them Really? Well, it's

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:19 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sure, that's fine. but i think we need to keep thinking about how to support of non-, or not-fully-sugarized applications with every new feature we do (as well

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco, I did some basic profiling of my new rainbow code last night and discovered that, in the best case with the current codebase on XO, it

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Security and Isolation

2008-10-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Persistent activity storage What does this mean? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Clipboard errata (patches)

2008-10-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a set of patches I worked on recently, and need to rebase on the latest

Re: [sugar] Clipboard errata (patches)

2008-10-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
and gtk.Widget.drag_unhighlight? http://pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtkwidget.html#method-gtkwidget--drag-highlight I think you can push most of the patches unless you need to do substantial changes. Thanks, Tomeu On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008

Re: [sugar] Announce: Screencast activity.

2008-10-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I started work on a Screencast activity tonight. It's a frontend to recordMyDesktop, which is the program Scott used for his screencasts. Having a program on the XO that's capable of preparing shareable tutorials could

Re: [sugar] Clipboard errata (patches)

2008-10-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a set of patches I worked on recently, and need to rebase on the latest jhbuild before I post them officially. I wanted to expose them for comments before I put in that effort, since there are no doubt other things

Re: [sugar] Design-meeting REMINDER (Thursday October 16 2008 - 15.30 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2008-10-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Would work with me. Regards, Tomeu On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone Unfortunately I'm travelling today and won't be able to be on the call. Can we do this tomorrow instead? Christian Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2008, at

[sugar] code contributions to Sugar (was Re: Sugar Clock)

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. I think this is a good example of why contributing to Sugar is necessarily hard. Many small technical contributions from the community require significant policy decisions by the leaders. When Sugar's

Re: [sugar] Reminder: Demo of next-gen journal ideas *tomorrow noon* @ 1cc

2008-10-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be giving a demo of some next-generation journal ideas (and code) at noon Wednesday at OLPC's 1cc offices. I'll make sure to have it

Re: [sugar] Sugar Clock

2008-10-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: | On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Carlo Falciola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Carlo : nowhere in the default GUI there is a clock, even if, in the

[sugar] convert_profile crashes on ubuntu

2008-10-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, I suspect this issue is related to sugar-jhbuild running on Ubuntu: Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/tomeu/sugar-jhbuild/install/bin/sugar-session, line 95, in module main() File /home/tomeu/sugar-jhbuild/install/bin/sugar-session, line 62, in main

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify: like our mini-conferences in the past, the plan is to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so that we all

[sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Realtime scrolling so you can just grab, drag, and look as it goes past. Indeed. I have never been satisfied with the row-by-row scrolling, but we

Re: [sugar] end of internship

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:26 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: - Developed a tool for monitoring memory allocation inside the python interpreter. Code: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/rlucchese/python-allocstatsmodule

Re: [sugar] pre-alpha release of Deducto

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Naveen Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all A new game by the name of DEDUCTO has been developed for OLPC - XO. The link for downloading the game is : http://code.google.com/p/deducto/downloads/list Kindly report the bugs(if faced any) and your

Re: [sugar] re Journal Requirements and preparing kids (was something else)

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu, Thanks for asking. The product manager role is only meaningful if developers and users feel they benefit from it :-) A note on my perspective. So far I have been able to focus exclusively on XO + Sugar Software. I

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8

Re: [sugar] journal is hard (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
several entries in the journal: one per video, one per photo, one per audio recording and one to tie them all together. Maybe this is confusing users? Thanks, Tomeu On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] saving files (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
. Awesome, look forward for more feedback from you. Thanks, Tomeu On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) Can't save files - this should probably be the first item on my list

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a

Re: [sugar] Sugar datastore model

2008-10-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Tony Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a use case that concerns me at the moment: 1. An activity that allows a student to build a slideshow with music and voice tracks based on images taken with the XO camera (as well as png, svg, jpg from the internet

Re: [sugar] Slowness (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
or something I can try to make that all happen. Thanks, will keep asking questions. Tomeu On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elana, you have brought a very needed point of view to this list. Let me try to start the process of translating your experience

Re: [sugar] naming, was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft Word had something that compared looks as a genius feature, that would set as default (editable) name for the .doc document the first few

[sugar] journal is hard (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they did unless it was done within the last 30 minutes. Could you please

[sugar] saving files (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) Can't save files - this should probably be the first item on my list. It drives teachers and students crazy. They make something in an application, take some pictures or write something and then have to go through a

[sugar] sugar and the digital age (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Elana, On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:48 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d) Although I think building a tagging tool around kids natural ways of thinking is really exciting, most teachers/schools/gov'ts are really concerned that this OS isn't preparing kids for the digital age

[sugar] Slowness (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Elana, you have brought a very needed point of view to this list. Let me try to start the process of translating your experience to actionable items. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Computers are slow - So I was in a Ger in the west part of Mongolia

Re: [sugar] Activities can't be hidden any more

2008-10-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#.info_File_Format still says: - quote - show_launcher = yes This key is optional. If not present, or if present with a value of yes, the activity is shown with its

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, this looks pretty cool, actually. One powerful addition which I think is necessary in order to adopt this is the addition of a Keep button in that toolbar, by which one *could* download the pdf for offline reading

Re: [sugar] Module Proposal: Image Viewer Activity

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to propose the inclusion of the Image Viewer Activity into Fructose: Just gave it a try and looks awesome. Should we make it the default activity for images?

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ... I think we should be able to find a better term than window manager, Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified by OLPC.

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett: I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 14:23 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: If we can keep things simple for now, I'd rather do it. Well, if that does not mean doing nothing, I'm all for it. Why not just push your old patch then? It looks good

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett: I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for the case when it is launched from Home View without a document. There was a recent discussion on

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 13:49 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, this looks pretty cool, actually. One powerful addition which I think

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
.) I guess in platform Sugar would be supporting learning, where in environment Sugar would be where learning happens. I would vote for platform, as the learning really happens inside the user. Regards, Tomeu - Eben -walter On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-10-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, have we reached any consensus on this? IMO, the journal today is pretty similar to an activity, and so much that I think that treating it as an special case when alt-tabbing brings more confusion than benefits. But I don't have a real strong position on this. Perhaps someone that cares

Re: [sugar] Module proposal: hulahop

2008-10-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, hulahop is already a dependency of the Browse activity but I think we should add it to the Glucose module set. The reason I didn't add it originally is that I wanted to try and keep it a generic component,

Re: [sugar] Need guidance from a Pygtk guru

2008-10-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Sorry but cannot think of any worthwhile suggestion to give you right now. Have you made any advances on the last two days? Regards, Tomeu On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Pierre Métras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've learnt Python and Pygtk writing the Clock activity

Re: [sugar] Mathematical Diversions 2

2008-10-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have written up an algorithm for quasi-optimal placement of items in the Mesh View. It involves linear algebra. I have actually implemented it, in less than 100

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