Re: Kernel with built-in usb drivers / building the kernel cheatsheet

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I understand that the usb tether drivers were moved out as kernel | modules. However, for the Debian port to work, I need them as part of | the kernel. Can someone point me to how I can re-compile the latest

Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | DFU this into the kernel partition and you should be good for Debian, I | use these kernels with it myself all day. | | | How do I DFU this into the microSD's kernel paritition? Sorry I was explain

Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Here's a kernel that has the modules you need built into it already. | | http://warmcat.com/uImage-moredrivers-stable:2f775967a997e3b4.bin | I get a 'Page load Error' when trying to access it. :-|

Re: Capacitor for snuffing interference to GPS antenna

2008-08-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
Jim Colton wrote: > Hey OpenMoko.com hardware team, > > Is the voltage on this cap. okay for me to use for the hardware solution > to the GPS Problem? Capacitance is what you suggested... I want to put > into place on mine if it is okay. > > http://www.westfloridacomponents.com/mm5/merchant.

Re: Trouble flashing 2008.08

2008-08-06 Thread Zack Mollusc
ould download. > > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/ > > I tried several combinations of files that ended in jffs2 for the > rootfs file and files that had "gta02" and ended in .bin for the > kernel image. Mostly the result I get is the openmoko

Re: Trouble flashing 2008.08

2008-08-06 Thread Brian C
Mike MacHenry wrote: > The problem is I can't figure out which of roughly 50 files from the > this list I should download. > > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/ You are looking for: The ASU/2008.8 rootfs http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/

Trouble flashing 2008.08

2008-08-06 Thread Mike MacHenry
flash mode and run the following two commands: dfu-util -a kernel -R -D /path/to/uImage dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D rootfs_filename.jffs2 The problem is I can't figure out which of roughly 50 files from the this list I should download. http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/200

Is there a Xoo and Xephyr VMware image with prebuilt environment?

2008-08-06 Thread Edgar D' Souza
Hi, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Host-based_development_with_Xoo_and_Xephyrstates, at the top: "Note that there is a VMware image where this environment has been prebuilt for you." The page, however, doesn't link to any such image, thus my query: does anyone here know of such an image, and if yes

Re: Upgrading u-boot needed ?

2008-08-06 Thread Edgar D' Souza
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Mikael Berthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-04 23:55 +0200]: > > > > FWIW, I learned (from the community list I believe) som time ago that > > you can use 'grep Bootloader /dev/mtdblock0' from a shell on the > > Fre

inotify support in Kernel

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
When install gdm+xfce4 on Debian, I get the following error Can't start Hardware abstraction layer - enable inotify support in your kernel - failed! How can I do this? (enabling inotify support in the kernel) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openm

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Matt Joyce
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > |> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it > |> won't make this problem as it updates the modul

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Matt Margush
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too. We moved > ~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module. But, it's > commonly written around

Kernel with built-in usb drivers

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
I understand that the usb tether drivers were moved out as kernel modules. However, for the Debian port to work, I need them as part of the kernel. Can someone point me to how I can re-compile the latest kernel with the drivers included? I am a OpenEmbedded newbie and have minimal experience with

Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
> > Here's a kernel that has the modules you need built into it already. > > http://warmcat.com/uImage-moredrivers-stable:2f775967a997e3b4.bin I get a 'Page load Error' when trying to access it. :-| ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org h

Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | I tried copying the existing "OM2008.8" kernel from /boot to > | /media/card/boot . This allowed the Freerunner to 'boot from

Sales?

2008-08-06 Thread Tim Dobson
I have heard from two sources now[1][2] that the demand for Freerunner's has been "above and beyond everyone's expectations". Does anyone have any data they can release as to roughly how many are thought to have been sold so far? Keep up the good stuff everyone! Tim [1] https://www.truebox.c

Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I tried copying the existing "OM2008.8" kernel from /boot to | /media/card/boot . This allowed the Freerunner to 'boot from MicroSD' | into the Debian shell. However, USB networking is not working. I recall

Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
I tried copying the existing "OM2008.8" kernel from /boot to /media/card/boot . This allowed the Freerunner to 'boot from MicroSD' into the Debian shell. However, USB networking is not working. I recall it being a module now, instead of being built into the kernel. So, how do I get a good kernel fo

Debian - How to install the kernel

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
I followed the instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Build_your_own_armel_filesystem (I used option 2 -Build your own armel system) . However, nowhere does it mention how to put the kernel in. A partition was created for the kernel (8M one), but no instruction on where to get the ker

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi Brian, --- On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdcore \-- Not on the device, but, on the host development system. Please see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image#Mounting_the_JFFS2_image_on_a_loop_back_dev

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | |> setenv bootcmd mmcinit \; ext2load mmc 2 0x3200 uImage.bin \; |> setenv bootargs \${mtdparts} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 |> console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=4 init=/sbin/i

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | You are right that I did not extract the rootfs, but that is because 1) | I do not know how to extract the rootfs and 2) none of the various | instructions on the wiki (which are inconsistent) worked for me

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread arne anka
> of them come back FATAL no such module, like so: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdcore > FATAL: Module mtdcore not found. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe jffs2 > FATAL: Module jffs2 not found. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdram total_size=59024 > FATAL: Modul

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Mike Montour
Andy Green wrote: > setenv bootcmd mmcinit \; ext2load mmc 2 0x3200 uImage.bin \; > setenv bootargs \${mtdparts} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 > console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=4 init=/sbin/init \; bootm 0x3200 ; boot > > Notice on ext2load the first number is the partition index i

Re: qtopia image at /media/card directory

2008-08-06 Thread Alex Kavanagh
Hi Lorn Lorn Potter wrote, On 05/08/08 19:20: > Alex Kavanagh wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I've been running the qtopia image for a few days and I'd like to dual >> boot it with the ASU or FSO image just to keep an eye on what is >> happening with them. >> >> Thus I have the qtopia in the main flash, a

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Brian C
Matthew McCormick wrote: > Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >> 2. partition2 is where I want to put Qtopia. >> After formatting it ext2 and mounting the partition, I did: >> wget http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz >> tar zvxf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-0722

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Zack Mollusc
Richard Cooke wrote: > Yeah. Worked for me too. Spent a day fiddling with the wrong box before > giving up and asking for help. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here. > > > Zack Mollusc wrote: > >> Richard Cooke wrote: >> >>> It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this li

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Matthew McCormick
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Matthew McCormick < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > 2. partition2 is where I want to put Qtopia. > > After formatting it ext2 and mounting the partition, I did: > > wget > http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-f

Re: Upgrading u-boot needed ?

2008-08-06 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Mikael Berthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's NOR u-boot version, and you can get NAND's with mtdblock1: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# grep Bootloader /dev/mtdblock1 > Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot > 1.3.2+gitr18+64eb10cab8055084ae25ea4e73b66dd03cc1a0cb > > ...wh

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Cooke
Yeah. Worked for me too. Spent a day fiddling with the wrong box before giving up and asking for help. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here. Zack Mollusc wrote: > > Richard Cooke wrote: >> It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I >> suspect I am not on my own

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Matthew McCormick
Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 2. partition2 is where I want to put Qtopia. > After formatting it ext2 and mounting the partition, I did: > wget http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz > tar zvxf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz > mv uImage*.bin uImage.b

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Zack Mollusc
Richard Cooke wrote: > It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I > suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking > between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running. > > I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps

Re: Assassin fails to connect

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
Does this have to do with the repository directory structure changes? On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:16 PM, sparky mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have flashed 06-Aug-2008 OM2008.8 image to my Freerunner. I have set up > USB networking to my Ubuntu machine and I can ping/wget stuff from my SSH > she

Re: sms when asleep

2008-08-06 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2008/8/6 William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The sms didnt wake the phone as I am sure it would when I first got it. > The message seemed to have been received by the phone (the rx sound came > immediately I woke it), but the message itself didnt wake the FR and > sound the ring tone. I could

sms when asleep

2008-08-06 Thread William Kenworthy
Hi, I borrowed a phone and sent an SMS to the freerunner (up to date 2007.2) when it was suspended (dim&lock for a couple of hours without interaction) The sms didnt wake the phone as I am sure it would when I first got it. The message seemed to have been received by the phone (the rx sound came i

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Cooke
Ok. No problem. I'll have another go. Thanks. Andy Green wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > |> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner > it > |> won't make this problem as it updates the mo

Assassin fails to connect

2008-08-06 Thread sparky mat
I have flashed 06-Aug-2008 OM2008.8 image to my Freerunner. I have set up USB networking to my Ubuntu machine and I can ping/wget stuff from my SSH shell on the Freerunner. However, Assassin says 'Cannot access repository. Please check your network'. Am I doing something wrong? ___

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it |> won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now, |> anyway, there were other problems with that method un

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Cooke
Andy Green wrote: > > > Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too. We moved > ~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module. But, it's > commonly written around that folks should update their kernel by DFU. > This was never a good idea for a modular kernel (i

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Cooke
Aaron Sowry wrote: > > I know Ubuntu handles interfaces in a weird way and references them by > MAC address. If Arne's suggestion doesn't help, run 'sudo ifconfig -a' > at the terminal and post the output, along with the contents of > /etc/iftab - you might find that the interface is not even

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | Andy Green wrote: |> Powering down or rebooting into U-Boot? |> - -Andy |> | Sorry. You are correct. On watching the screen more closely it is clear that | the device is detected early in its boot process.

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Cooke
Andy Green wrote: > > Powering down or rebooting into U-Boot? > - -Andy > Sorry. You are correct. On watching the screen more closely it is clear that the device is detected early in its boot process. It then appears that the USB connection is lost 6 seconds later. -- View this message in cont

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Aug 6 11:25:36 ubuntu kernel: [ 926.860809] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB | ACM device | It seems the device is detected just as it is powering down. Powering down or rebooting into U-Boot? - -Andy ---

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Cooke
arne anka wrote: > > > > fr is plugged in and powered on? no suspend? > if so, unplug it from the host pc, open a konsole/shell and do > > sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog > > have a look at the shell and plug in the fr again. > any messages? > there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that br

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Jay Vaughan
> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as > an > interface by ifconfig. > The command: > ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 > results in > SIOCSIFADDR: No such device > usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device > I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether b

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Aaron Sowry
arne anka wrote: >> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an >> interface by ifconfig. >> >> The command: >> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 >> >> results in >> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device >> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device >> > > there was

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an |> interface by ifconfig. |> |> The command: |> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 |> |> results in |> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |> usb0: E

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread arne anka
> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an > interface by ifconfig. > > The command: > ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 > > results in > SIOCSIFADDR: No such device > usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device fr is plugged in and powered on? no suspend? if

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Yorick Moko
maybe this can help: disconnect cable, restart freerunner, when booted: connect cable try again worked once for me On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Richard Cooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I > suspect I am not on my own in

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Cooke
It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running. I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps as such I was a little rash

Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

2008-08-06 Thread arne anka
> Now, what's the difference between "daily" and "remote" here > (considering the hostname is wrong, that's the other change). until someone suggest better i am going to believe "remote" is just another generic placeholder. ___ support mailing list su

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi Brian, --- On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | If someone has Qtopia (or any other distro, for that matter) booting | from microSD, I'd appreciate very step-by-step instructions \-- Some quick notes I had made: 1. Download qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz

Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I changed the kernel name based on something I read stating it had to be | called uImage.bin (is that wrong?) It needs to match whatever you called it on the kernel commandline in U-Boot, our ones use "uIm

Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

2008-08-06 Thread Brian C
Hi, If someone has Qtopia (or any other distro, for that matter) booting from microSD, I'd appreciate very step-by-step instructions, because it is not working for me and I have poured over the wiki's various pages related to this. Here's what I've done: 1. Partitioned my 8GB microSD card thus:

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Jay Vaughan
LOL!! j. On Aug 6, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Am Mi 6. August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger: >> Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> >>> Maybe just adding the link by yourself would have been enough :-( >> >> Yay maybe. >> >>> My job is to fix your hw and crea

Re: Led light stay on after boot

2008-08-06 Thread Jay Vaughan
> It's not pretty in there. I guess this is today's topic for debug > action. > - -Andy Phew! Go, Andy, go!! :) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support

Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

2008-08-06 Thread Olivier Berger
Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct >> contents of the files i've overwritten? >> > > Here's a (partial) log of the session here, which exhibits the > differences : > SN

Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

2008-08-06 Thread Olivier Berger
atweb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Ovverwrite it manually with the new Version: > "opkg install > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk"; > This installs direct the file via http without searching in the > Paket-Database. I don't get th

Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

2008-08-06 Thread Olivier Berger
Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct > contents of the files i've overwritten? > Here's a (partial) log of the session here, which exhibits the differences : Installing distro-feed-configs (1.0-r0) to root... Download

Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 6. August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger: > Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Maybe just adding the link by yourself would have been enough :-( > > Yay maybe. > > > My job is to fix your hw and create new one, not to supply links. > > Well... dunno what your employer t

Re: Uboot

2008-08-06 Thread Matt Joyce
> Side note - the reason I'm flashing is because after doing an opkg > update/upgrade on the Qtopia distro, it will no longer boot. It gets to > the point where it looks like it should be loading up the GUI (tiny > blinking cursor in the top left, nothing else on the screen) and hangs > there. Anyo

Re: Qtopia post-mortem

2008-08-06 Thread Aaron Sowry
Aaron Sowry wrote: > Hi, > > I have just now flashed my Freerunner with today's [August 5th] uboot and the > latest > Qtopia uImage and rootfs available from their website. After flashing it > boots up fine, and I run 'opkg update' followed by 'opkg upgrade' which > results in a lengthy process

Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

2008-08-06 Thread W.Kenworthy
What settings did you use? I cant find a copy anywhere to see what they should be :( BillK On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:46 -0500, Feydreva wrote: > yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file again > after the upgrade... > > http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ was also the ad

Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

2008-08-06 Thread Olivier Berger
Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Maybe just adding the link by yourself would have been enough :-( Yay maybe. > My job is to fix your hw and create new one, not to supply links. Well... dunno what your employer tells you to do... but I consider good practice to provide explicit