Re: Kernel with built-in usb drivers / building the kernel cheatsheet

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I understand that the usb tether drivers were moved out as kernel
| modules. However, for the Debian port to work, I need them as part of
| the kernel. Can someone point me to how I can re-compile the latest
| kernel with the drivers included?
|
| I am a OpenEmbedded newbie and have minimal experience with the Moko
| Makefile (i.e. I haven't done any modifications, just done a normal
build).

I don't think you need to do this, but of course it is a nice thing to
be able to do anyway.  You will know more about the OE side than me by
the sound of it, but I can give you the steps to build the kernel
standalone with the "moredrivers" config.

~ - git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6
~ - git checkout origin/stable
~ - edit ./build to point to your compiler path
~ - cp defconfig-2.6.24 .config
~ - ./build

That gets you a uImage.bin you can DFU or copy into your SD Card filesystem.

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Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| DFU this into the kernel partition and you should be good for
Debian, I
| use these kernels with it myself all day.
|
|
| How do I DFU this into the microSD's kernel paritition?

Sorry I was explaining the NAND case.  You can use it fine on microSD
just mount the microSD on your laptop / PC and copy that file over to
the correct partition as "uImage.bin".  Then unmount, return it to
Freerunner and you should boot OK.

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Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Here's a kernel that has the modules you need built into it already.
|
| http://warmcat.com/uImage-moredrivers-stable:2f775967a997e3b4.bin

| I get a 'Page load Error' when trying to access it. :-|


I guess your downloading app doesn't like the colon, because it
downloads fine here.  Try this.

http://warmcat.com/uImage-moredrivers-stable_507c3c1ba3921bb7.bin

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Re: Capacitor for snuffing interference to GPS antenna

[Michael Shiloh]

Jim Colton wrote:
> Hey OpenMoko.com hardware team,
> 
> Is the voltage on this cap. okay for me to use for the hardware solution 
> to the GPS Problem?  Capacitance is what you suggested... I want to put 
> into place on mine if it is okay.
> 
> http://www.westfloridacomponents.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MON001&Category_Code=MonolithicCapacitors-Chip-SurfaceMount&Store_Code=wfc
>  
> 


I recommend NOT doing this until we understand the problem a bit better.

Michael

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Re: Trouble flashing 2008.08

[Zack Mollusc]

Mike MacHenry wrote:
> I'm using a neo freerunner and I am having a rather difficult time
> figuring out how to flash 2008.08 image that I was take to from the
> openmoko.com download link. From reading the wiki I've figured out
> that I need a kernel image and a rootfs image. Then I am supposed to
> boot into NOR flash mode and run the following two commands:
>
> dfu-util -a kernel -R -D /path/to/uImage
> dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D rootfs_filename.jffs2
>
> The problem is I can't figure out which of roughly 50 files from the
> this list I should download.
>
> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/
>
> I tried several combinations of files that ended in jffs2 for the
> rootfs file and files that had "gta02" and ended in .bin for the
> kernel image. Mostly the result I get is the openmoko splash screen
> when the device starts staying on the screen forever. I once got the
> machine to boot into a running distro but the machine was incredibly
> unreliable. Clicking on an icon gave a totally black screen, there
> were no buttons at the bottom of the app but it looked like there
> should be. Pressing the power button had no effect either.
>
> I think I'm just downloading the wrong images. I used qtopia the other
> day and it worked fine so my hardware is not busted.
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Hi, not being an expert, i installed the root filesystem
(Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2) and flashed the
kernel (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin) when I had got mine
cocked up. This took it back to 'as received' condition, and then i opkd
update, upgrade once i got the usb networking going again.



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Re: Trouble flashing 2008.08

[Brian C]

Mike MacHenry wrote:
> The problem is I can't figure out which of roughly 50 files from the
> this list I should download.
> 
> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/

You are looking for:

The ASU/2008.8 rootfs
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.jffs2

and the latest kernel:
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin

Brian

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Trouble flashing 2008.08

[Mike MacHenry]

I'm using a neo freerunner and I am having a rather difficult time
figuring out how to flash 2008.08 image that I was take to from the
openmoko.com download link. From reading the wiki I've figured out
that I need a kernel image and a rootfs image. Then I am supposed to
boot into NOR flash mode and run the following two commands:

dfu-util -a kernel -R -D /path/to/uImage
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D rootfs_filename.jffs2

The problem is I can't figure out which of roughly 50 files from the
this list I should download.

http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/

I tried several combinations of files that ended in jffs2 for the
rootfs file and files that had "gta02" and ended in .bin for the
kernel image. Mostly the result I get is the openmoko splash screen
when the device starts staying on the screen forever. I once got the
machine to boot into a running distro but the machine was incredibly
unreliable. Clicking on an icon gave a totally black screen, there
were no buttons at the bottom of the app but it looked like there
should be. Pressing the power button had no effect either.

I think I'm just downloading the wrong images. I used qtopia the other
day and it worked fine so my hardware is not busted.

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Is there a Xoo and Xephyr VMware image with prebuilt environment?

[Edgar D' Souza]

Hi,
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Host-based_development_with_Xoo_and_Xephyrstates,
at the top:
"Note that there is a VMware image where this environment has been prebuilt
for you."

The page, however, doesn't link to any such image, thus my query: does
anyone here know of such an image, and if yes, could you please provide a
link to it?

Thanks in advance,
Ed.

PS I'm still a n00b with the whole phone+images+dev env etc matter, so am
posting this here instead of to a developer list; I don't qualify to be
called a dev yet :-) Please pardon if you think this is OT for this list.
Ed.
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Re: Upgrading u-boot needed ?

[Edgar D' Souza]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Mikael Berthe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> * Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-04 23:55 +0200]:
> >
> > FWIW, I learned (from the community list I believe) som time ago that
> > you can use 'grep  Bootloader /dev/mtdblock0' from a shell on the
> > FreeRunner (and possibly the 1973 as well) to get the u-boot version.
> > Like this:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# grep  Bootloader /dev/mtdblock0
> > Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12
>
> That's NOR u-boot version, and you can get NAND's with mtdblock1:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# grep Bootloader /dev/mtdblock1
> Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 
> 1.3.2+gitr18+64eb10cab8055084ae25ea4e73b66dd03cc1a0cb
>
> ...which can be useful to check after an upgrade.

Thanks to both! Added this useful info to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner under the
heading Flashing the boot loader to the NAND.
Regards
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inotify support in Kernel

[sparky mat]

When install gdm+xfce4 on Debian, I get the following error

Can't start Hardware abstraction layer - enable inotify support in your
kernel - failed!

How can I do this? (enabling inotify support in the kernel)
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Matt Joyce]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
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> |> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it
> |> won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now,
> |> anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently).
>
> | Thanks. This seems to be the problem. I will reflash with DFU. I am not
> | clear though how to avoid the same situation when I come to upgrade the
> | phone again as I used opkg over ssh to upgrade and have not used dfu
> at all.
>
> For a day or two there the packaging didn't take care about bringing in
> the new module that was created.  Now it pulls in all the modules needed
> automatically: sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> - -Andy

Presumably, for those who have upgraded the kernel but don't have the
usb-net modules, they could be downloaded, or extracted and loaded
onto the sd and then installed.
Would save flashing.

Matt

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Matt Margush]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too.  We moved
> ~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module.  But, it's
> commonly written around that folks should update their kernel by DFU.
> This was never a good idea for a modular kernel (it does nothing to
> update the modules) and now it's a really bad idea.
>
> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it
> won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time

How do I update my kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner?

Thanks,

Matt

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Kernel with built-in usb drivers

[sparky mat]

I understand that the usb tether drivers were moved out as kernel modules.
However, for the Debian port to work, I need them as part of the kernel. Can
someone point me to how I can re-compile the latest kernel with the drivers
included?

I am a OpenEmbedded newbie and have minimal experience with the Moko
Makefile (i.e. I haven't done any modifications, just done a normal build).
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Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

[sparky mat]

>
> Here's a kernel that has the modules you need built into it already.
>
> http://warmcat.com/uImage-moredrivers-stable:2f775967a997e3b4.bin



I get a 'Page load Error' when trying to access it. :-|
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Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

[sparky mat]

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> | I tried copying the existing "OM2008.8" kernel from /boot to
> | /media/card/boot . This allowed the Freerunner to 'boot from MicroSD'
> | into the Debian shell. However, USB networking is not working. I recall
> | it being a module now, instead of being built into the kernel. So, how
> | do I get a good kernel for (Freerunner) Debian?
>
> Here's a kernel that has the modules you need built into it already.
>
> http://warmcat.com/uImage-moredrivers-stable:2f775967a997e3b4.bin
>
> For GPL compliance purposes: the sources for these are coming out of
> stable (in this case) branch of our kernel git with the head at the
> truncated hash shown.
>
> DFU this into the kernel partition and you should be good for Debian, I
> use these kernels with it myself all day.
>

How do I DFU this into the microSD's kernel paritition?
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Sales?

[Tim Dobson]

I have heard from two sources now[1][2] that the demand for Freerunner's 
has been "above and beyond everyone's expectations".

Does anyone have any data they can release as to roughly how many are 
thought to have been sold so far?

Keep up the good stuff everyone!


Tim

[1] https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Openmoko
[2] my friend in the states has apparently been talking to an someone in 
the know.

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still has one object.
If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now
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Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| I tried copying the existing "OM2008.8" kernel from /boot to
| /media/card/boot . This allowed the Freerunner to 'boot from MicroSD'
| into the Debian shell. However, USB networking is not working. I recall
| it being a module now, instead of being built into the kernel. So, how
| do I get a good kernel for (Freerunner) Debian?

Here's a kernel that has the modules you need built into it already.

http://warmcat.com/uImage-moredrivers-stable:2f775967a997e3b4.bin

For GPL compliance purposes: the sources for these are coming out of
stable (in this case) branch of our kernel git with the head at the
truncated hash shown.

DFU this into the kernel partition and you should be good for Debian, I
use these kernels with it myself all day.

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Re: Debian - How to install the kernel

[sparky mat]

I tried copying the existing "OM2008.8" kernel from /boot to
/media/card/boot . This allowed the Freerunner to 'boot from MicroSD' into
the Debian shell. However, USB networking is not working. I recall it being
a module now, instead of being built into the kernel. So, how do I get a
good kernel for (Freerunner) Debian?

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:19 AM, sparky mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I followed the instructions at
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Build_your_own_armel_filesystem
> (I used option 2 -Build your own armel system) . However, nowhere does it
> mention how to put the kernel in. A partition was created for the kernel (8M
> one), but no instruction on where to get the kernel or how to flash it.
>
> I'd appreciate any help on this.
>
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Debian - How to install the kernel

[sparky mat]

I followed the instructions at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Build_your_own_armel_filesystem
(I used option 2 -Build your own armel system) . However, nowhere does it
mention how to put the kernel in. A partition was created for the kernel (8M
one), but no instruction on where to get the kernel or how to flash it.

I'd appreciate any help on this.
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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi Brian,

--- On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdcore
\--

Not on the device, but, on the host development system. Please see:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image#Mounting_the_JFFS2_image_on_a_loop_back_device_.28Kernel_Memory_MTD_Emulation.29

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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Andy Green wrote:
|
|> setenv bootcmd  mmcinit \; ext2load mmc 2 0x3200 uImage.bin \;
|> setenv bootargs \${mtdparts} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2
|> console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=4 init=/sbin/init \; bootm 0x3200
; boot
|>
|> Notice on ext2load the first number is the partition index it should
|> use, counting from 1.
|
| Minor correction - the parameter for ext2load and fatload is
| :, so partition 2 would be "ext2load mmc 1:2 ...".
| IIRC this is documented in the online help for "fatload" but not for
| "ext2load".
|
| For troubleshooting you can also run "mmcinit; ext2ls mmc 1:2 /" from
| the u-boot console to make sure that u-boot is able to access the
| partition, and to see what files are on the card. There is also a
| "fatls" command to look at a VFAT partition.

My mistake, I just edited my canned one I use for first partition off
the top of my head.  One way or another personally I only ever pulled
kernel from the first partition on SD Card myself, VFAT or EXT3.

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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| You are right that I did not extract the rootfs, but that is because 1)
| I do not know how to extract the rootfs and 2) none of the various
| instructions on the wiki (which are inconsistent) worked for me.  For
| instance, when I do the various modprobe commands that are listed, all
| of them come back FATAL no such module, like so:
|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdcore
| FATAL: Module mtdcore not found.
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe jffs2
| FATAL: Module jffs2 not found.
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdram total_size=59024
| FATAL: Module mtdram not found.
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdchar
| FATAL: Module mtdchar not found.
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdblock
| FATAL: Module mtdblock not found.

These are all built-in to the monolithic kernels from us, so there are
no modules for them.  They're all needed to boot from mtd / jffs2 which
is normal for us.

| I should also emphasize to an earlier responder that I want to place
| both the kernel and the rootfs on the same ext2 partition, namely
| partition 2.  I believe this is possible, and I'd prefer it to having
| the kernel in the first FAT partition.

| Andy's email will likely be helpful here, but clearly I have to figure
| out how to extract the jffs2 first.

There should be a .tar.gz floating around for rootfs normally as well,
these are obviously more amenable to unpacking into the rootfs.

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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[arne anka]

> of them come back FATAL no such module, like so:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdcore
> FATAL: Module mtdcore not found.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe jffs2
> FATAL: Module jffs2 not found.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdram total_size=59024
> FATAL: Module mtdram not found.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdchar
> FATAL: Module mtdchar not found.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdblock
> FATAL: Module mtdblock not found.

every one of these is probably not part of a standard variety installation.
have a look at google to find out what packages of your distribution  
contain these modules.

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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Mike Montour]

Andy Green wrote:

> setenv bootcmd  mmcinit \; ext2load mmc 2 0x3200 uImage.bin \;
> setenv bootargs \${mtdparts} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2
> console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=4 init=/sbin/init \; bootm 0x3200 ; boot
> 
> Notice on ext2load the first number is the partition index it should
> use, counting from 1.

Minor correction - the parameter for ext2load and fatload is 
:, so partition 2 would be "ext2load mmc 1:2 ...". 
IIRC this is documented in the online help for "fatload" but not for 
"ext2load".

For troubleshooting you can also run "mmcinit; ext2ls mmc 1:2 /" from 
the u-boot console to make sure that u-boot is able to access the 
partition, and to see what files are on the card. There is also a 
"fatls" command to look at a VFAT partition.


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Re: qtopia image at /media/card directory

[Alex Kavanagh]

Hi Lorn

Lorn Potter wrote, On 05/08/08 19:20:
> Alex Kavanagh wrote:
>   
>> Hi
>>
>> I've been running the qtopia image for a few days and I'd like to dual
>> boot it with the ASU or FSO image just to keep an eye on what is
>> happening with them.
>>
>> Thus I have the qtopia in the main flash, and I'd like to put the ASU or
>> FSO image into the SD card.
>>
>> However, I ran into a problem.  the SD card is mounted at /meda/card
>> (it's the original card that came with the phone), and there is a
>> qtopia_db.sqlite file on it.
>>
>> And sure enough the qpe process has open file handles on it and so is
>> clearly using it.
>>
>> Does anyone know where the config option is for moving this file off
>> /media/card?  I can't find it anywhere after grepping the whole device
>> for /media/card, card, /media, etc.
>> 
>
> Look in ~/Settings/Trolltech/Storage.conf
> (or /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech.Storage.conf)
> In the [MountPoint0] section, change
> ContentDatabase = 1
> to ContentDatabase = 0
>
> Does this help?
>   
It certainly pointed me in the right direction!  In the end I commented
out the entry for "Mounts" in
/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf and it worked ok.

If I just set the ContentDatabase = 0 and then umounted the card the qpe
application started throwing up 'sync' problem messages.

Thanks very much for your help.
Cheers
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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Brian C]

Matthew McCormick wrote:
> Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>>
>> 2. partition2 is where I want to put Qtopia.
>> After formatting it ext2 and mounting the partition, I did:
>> wget http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
>> tar zvxf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
>> mv uImage*.bin uImage.bin
>>
>> I changed the kernel name based on something I read stating it had to be
>> called uImage.bin (is that wrong?)
>>
> You must follow the instructions on the wiki.  You did not extract the
> rootfs.

You are right that I did not extract the rootfs, but that is because 1)
I do not know how to extract the rootfs and 2) none of the various
instructions on the wiki (which are inconsistent) worked for me.  For
instance, when I do the various modprobe commands that are listed, all
of them come back FATAL no such module, like so:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdcore
FATAL: Module mtdcore not found.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe jffs2
FATAL: Module jffs2 not found.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdram total_size=59024
FATAL: Module mtdram not found.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdchar
FATAL: Module mtdchar not found.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/qtopia# modprobe mtdblock
FATAL: Module mtdblock not found.

I should also emphasize to an earlier responder that I want to place
both the kernel and the rootfs on the same ext2 partition, namely
partition 2.  I believe this is possible, and I'd prefer it to having
the kernel in the first FAT partition.

>> 4. I edited by NAND U-boot menu to include:
>> setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD part2 (ext2+ext2): setenv bootargs
>> \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
>> \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 1 0x3200
>> \${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x3200
> 
> Your partitions numbers are wrong from what you have said.  I added a
> warning to
> watch partition numbers and what to change.

Andy's email will likely be helpful here, but clearly I have to figure
out how to extract the jffs2 first.

>> Thanks for any help.  If I figure all this out, there is going to be a
>> single crystal clear wiki page on this when I get done.
> 
> Please do _not_ try to make a "single crystal clear wiki page."  Please fix
> relevant sections of the wiki, but do not try to concatenate all
> sections to one
> page for what you, personally, are trying to do.  This leads to multiple
> crummy
> pages. 

I'm not going to engage on this point.  It wouldn't be productive.

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Zack Mollusc]

Richard Cooke wrote:
> Yeah. Worked for me too. Spent a day fiddling with the wrong box before
> giving up and asking for help. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here.
>
>
> Zack Mollusc wrote:
>   
>> Richard Cooke wrote:
>> 
>>> It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I
>>> suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking
>>> between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running.
>>>
>>> I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and
>>> perhaps
>>> as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu
>>> 8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box.
>>>
>>> I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going
>>> and
>>> late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I
>>> thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again,
>>> but
>>> power it down I did.
>>>
>>> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
>>> interface by ifconfig.
>>>
>>> The command:
>>> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
>>>
>>> results in
>>> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
>>> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>>>
>>> I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains.
>>>
>>> Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> Hello, i am also a noob running umbongo (i am on 32bit 8.04) and i had a
>> similar problem.
>> I broke the whole thing on the fr and no longer had a gui, I flashed the
>> root filesystem
>> (Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2)and seemed to lose
>> usb connectivity, with similar host response, and after some vain faffing
>> about with the host machine(i thought the usb port had become confused)
>> , I flashed the kernel (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin) and that
>> seemed to fix it for me. Obviously I had to install the apps again.
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>   
Hehe, i booted the host multiple times and connected different USB
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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Matthew McCormick]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Matthew McCormick <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >
> > 2. partition2 is where I want to put Qtopia.
> > After formatting it ext2 and mounting the partition, I did:
> > wget
> http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
> > tar zvxf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
> > mv uImage*.bin uImage.bin
> >
> > I changed the kernel name based on something I read stating it had to be
> > called uImage.bin (is that wrong?)
> >
>
> You must follow the instructions on the wiki.  You did not extract the
> rootfs.
>
>
BTW, the page should be looking at is here
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia
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Re: Upgrading u-boot needed ?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hello,

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Mikael Berthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's NOR u-boot version, and you can get NAND's with mtdblock1:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# grep Bootloader /dev/mtdblock1
> Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 
> 1.3.2+gitr18+64eb10cab8055084ae25ea4e73b66dd03cc1a0cb
>
> ...which can be useful to check after an upgrade.

Thanks, very useful.
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Richard Cooke]

Yeah. Worked for me too. Spent a day fiddling with the wrong box before
giving up and asking for help. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here.


Zack Mollusc wrote:
> 
> Richard Cooke wrote:
>> It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I
>> suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking
>> between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running.
>>
>> I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and
>> perhaps
>> as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu
>> 8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box.
>>
>> I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going
>> and
>> late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I
>> thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again,
>> but
>> power it down I did.
>>
>> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
>> interface by ifconfig.
>>
>> The command:
>> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
>>
>> results in
>> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
>> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>>
>> I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains.
>>
>> Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>   
> 
> Hello, i am also a noob running umbongo (i am on 32bit 8.04) and i had a
> similar problem.
> I broke the whole thing on the fr and no longer had a gui, I flashed the
> root filesystem
> (Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2)and seemed to lose
> usb connectivity, with similar host response, and after some vain faffing
> about with the host machine(i thought the usb port had become confused)
> , I flashed the kernel (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin) and that
> seemed to fix it for me. Obviously I had to install the apps again.
> Good luck.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Matthew McCormick]

Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>
> 2. partition2 is where I want to put Qtopia.
> After formatting it ext2 and mounting the partition, I did:
> wget http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
> tar zvxf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
> mv uImage*.bin uImage.bin
>
> I changed the kernel name based on something I read stating it had to be
> called uImage.bin (is that wrong?)
>

You must follow the instructions on the wiki.  You did not extract the
rootfs.


> 4. I edited by NAND U-boot menu to include:
> setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD part2 (ext2+ext2): setenv bootargs
> \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
> \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 1 0x3200
> \${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x3200

Your partitions numbers are wrong from what you have said.  I added a
warning to
watch partition numbers and what to change.


> Thanks for any help.  If I figure all this out, there is going to be a
> single crystal clear wiki page on this when I get done.

Please do _not_ try to make a "single crystal clear wiki page."  Please fix
relevant sections of the wiki, but do not try to concatenate all sections to
one
page for what you, personally, are trying to do.  This leads to multiple
crummy
pages.
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Zack Mollusc]

Richard Cooke wrote:
> It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I
> suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking
> between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running.
>
> I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps
> as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu
> 8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box.
>
> I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going and
> late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I
> thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again, but
> power it down I did.
>
> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
> interface by ifconfig.
>
> The command:
> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
>
> results in
> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>
> I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains.
>
> Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
>
>   

Hello, i am also a noob running umbongo (i am on 32bit 8.04) and i had a 
similar problem.
I broke the whole thing on the fr and no longer had a gui, I flashed the root 
filesystem
(Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2)and seemed to lose
usb connectivity, with similar host response, and after some vain faffing
about with the host machine(i thought the usb port had become confused)
, I flashed the kernel (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin) and that
seemed to fix it for me. Obviously I had to install the apps again.
Good luck.





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Re: Assassin fails to connect

[sparky mat]

Does this have to do with the repository directory structure changes?

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:16 PM, sparky mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have flashed 06-Aug-2008 OM2008.8 image to my Freerunner. I have set up
> USB networking to my Ubuntu machine and I can ping/wget stuff from my SSH
> shell on the Freerunner. However, Assassin says 'Cannot access repository.
> Please check your network'.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
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Re: sms when asleep

[Jeffrey Ratcliffe]

2008/8/6 William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The sms didnt wake the phone as I am sure it would when I first got it.
> The message seemed to have been received by the phone (the rx sound came
> immediately I woke it), but the message itself didnt wake the FR and
> sound the ring tone. I could not find a trac entry, but remember a
> couple of list emails about it.  Is this a known problem/should I enter
> a bug for it?

On occasion, not only has it not woken the phone, but afterwards,
although the phone was displaying good signal strength, I was unable
to call out or in. On rebooting the phone, the SMS arrived, and I was
able to call.

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sms when asleep

[William Kenworthy]

Hi, I borrowed a phone and sent an SMS to the freerunner (up to date
2007.2) when it was suspended (dim&lock for a couple of hours without
interaction)

The sms didnt wake the phone as I am sure it would when I first got it.
The message seemed to have been received by the phone (the rx sound came
immediately I woke it), but the message itself didnt wake the FR and
sound the ring tone. I could not find a trac entry, but remember a
couple of list emails about it.  Is this a known problem/should I enter
a bug for it?

BillK

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Richard Cooke]

Ok. No problem. I'll have another go. Thanks.

Andy Green wrote:
> 
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> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> 
> |> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner
> it
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> (now,
> |> anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently).
> 
> | Thanks. This seems to be the problem. I will reflash with DFU. I am not
> | clear though how to avoid the same situation when I come to upgrade the
> | phone again as I used opkg over ssh to upgrade and have not used dfu
> at all.
> 
> For a day or two there the packaging didn't take care about bringing in
> the new module that was created.  Now it pulls in all the modules needed
> automatically: sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
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Assassin fails to connect

[sparky mat]

I have flashed 06-Aug-2008 OM2008.8 image to my Freerunner. I have set up
USB networking to my Ubuntu machine and I can ping/wget stuff from my SSH
shell on the Freerunner. However, Assassin says 'Cannot access repository.
Please check your network'.

Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

|> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it
|> won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now,
|> anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently).

| Thanks. This seems to be the problem. I will reflash with DFU. I am not
| clear though how to avoid the same situation when I come to upgrade the
| phone again as I used opkg over ssh to upgrade and have not used dfu
at all.

For a day or two there the packaging didn't take care about bringing in
the new module that was created.  Now it pulls in all the modules needed
automatically: sorry for the inconvenience.

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Richard Cooke]

Andy Green wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too.  We moved
> ~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module.  But, it's
> commonly written around that folks should update their kernel by DFU.
> This was never a good idea for a modular kernel (it does nothing to
> update the modules) and now it's a really bad idea.
> 
> If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it
> won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now,
> anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently).
> 
> If that's what's happened (try the Uboot update first though because
> that fits the symptom as well) best plan is nuke these guys on your
> device (kernel + matching rootfs) with dfu
> 
> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/
> 
> and start over.
> 
> - -Andy
> 
> 

Thanks. This seems to be the problem. I will reflash with DFU. I am not
clear though how to avoid the same situation when I come to upgrade the
phone again as I used opkg over ssh to upgrade and have not used dfu at all.

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Richard Cooke]

Aaron Sowry wrote:
> 
> I know Ubuntu handles interfaces in a weird way and references them by 
> MAC address. If Arne's suggestion doesn't help, run 'sudo ifconfig -a' 
> at the terminal and post the output, along with the contents of 
> /etc/iftab - you might find that the interface is not even called usb0.
> Aaron
> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ifconfig -a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:8d:ef:d1:72  
  inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::250:8dff:feef:d172/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:7280 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4710 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:3353886 (3.1 MB)  TX bytes:1267116 (1.2 MB)
  Interrupt:22 Base address:0xb400 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:2570 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:2570 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:128500 (125.4 KB)  TX bytes:128500 (125.4 KB)

The /etc/iftab file strangely consists entirely of comments and looks like
this:

# This file is no longer used and has been automatically replaced.
# See /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules for more information.
#

# This file assigns persistent names to network interfaces.  See iftab(5).
#eth0 mac 00:50:8d:ef:d1:72

/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules contains the following:

# This file maintains persistent names for network interfaces.
# See udev(7) for syntax.
#
# Entries are automatically added by the 75-persistent-net-generator.rules
# file; however you are also free to add your own entries.

# Converted from /etc/iftab on upgrade
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

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| Andy Green wrote:
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|> - -Andy
|>
| Sorry. You are correct. On watching the screen more closely it is
clear that
| the device is detected early in its boot process. It then appears that the
| USB connection is lost 6 seconds later.

It seems you updated your Linux kernel but not the modules, see the
advice about that earlier in this thread.

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Richard Cooke]

Andy Green wrote:
> 
> Powering down or rebooting into U-Boot?
> - -Andy
> 
Sorry. You are correct. On watching the screen more closely it is clear that
the device is detected early in its boot process. It then appears that the
USB connection is lost 6 seconds later.
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu kernel: [  926.860809] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0:
ttyACM0: USB
| ACM device

| It seems the device is detected just as it is powering down.

Powering down or rebooting into U-Boot?

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Richard Cooke]

arne anka wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> fr is plugged in and powered on? no suspend?
> if so, unplug it from the host pc, open a konsole/shell and do
> 
> sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
> 
> have a look at the shell and plug in the fr again.
> any messages?
> there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb  
> connections -- rebooting (the fr or the pc, couldn't figure out which, try  
> fr first) is supposed to help.
> the lattest u-boots are supposed to fix that.
> 
> 

Thank you for your quick response. On unplugging and replugging the FR there
is no output to the syslog. However, on powering dwon the device with USB
cable still in place I get the following:

Aug  6 11:25:35 ubuntu kernel: [  926.474693] usb 3-1: new full speed USB
device using uhci_hcd and address 2
Aug  6 11:25:35 ubuntu kernel: [  926.562782] usb 3-1: configuration #1
chosen from 2 choices
Aug  6 11:25:35 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018335.868663]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000'). 
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018336.112435]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if1'). 
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018336.170411]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if2'). 
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu kernel: [  926.860793]
/build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This device cannot
do calls on its own. It is no modem.
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu kernel: [  926.860809] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB
ACM device
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu kernel: [  926.863512] usbcore: registered new
interface driver cdc_acm
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu kernel: [  926.863518]
/build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: v0.25:USB Abstract
Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018336.245188]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if0'). 
Aug  6 11:25:36 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018336.249447]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if0_serial_unknown_0').
 
Aug  6 11:25:41 ubuntu kernel: [  930.561583] usb 3-1: USB disconnect,
address 2
Aug  6 11:25:42 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018341.691683]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if0_serial_unknown_0').
 
Aug  6 11:25:42 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018341.696906]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if0'). 
Aug  6 11:25:42 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018341.705605]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if1'). 
Aug  6 11:25:42 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018341.710502]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000_if2'). 
Aug  6 11:25:42 ubuntu NetworkManager:  [1218018341.719457]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d50_5119_000'). 

It seems the device is detected just as it is powering down.
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Jay Vaughan]

> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as  
> an
> interface by ifconfig.
> The command:
> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
> results in
> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains.
> Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits'  
> end.
>

I haven't been tracking your problems, but are you *sure* that the  
usbnet module is loaded on your Freerunner?


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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Aaron Sowry]

arne anka wrote:
>> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
>> interface by ifconfig.
>>
>> The command:
>> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
>>
>> results in
>> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
>> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>> 
>
> there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb  
> connections 
I know Ubuntu handles interfaces in a weird way and references them by 
MAC address. If Arne's suggestion doesn't help, run 'sudo ifconfig -a' 
at the terminal and post the output, along with the contents of 
/etc/iftab - you might find that the interface is not even called usb0.

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
|> interface by ifconfig.
|>
|> The command:
|> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
|>
|> results in
|> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
|> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
|
| fr is plugged in and powered on? no suspend?
| if so, unplug it from the host pc, open a konsole/shell and do
|
| sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
|
| have a look at the shell and plug in the fr again.
| any messages?
| there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb
| connections -- rebooting (the fr or the pc, couldn't figure out which,
try
| fr first) is supposed to help.
| the lattest u-boots are supposed to fix that.

Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too.  We moved
~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module.  But, it's
commonly written around that folks should update their kernel by DFU.
This was never a good idea for a modular kernel (it does nothing to
update the modules) and now it's a really bad idea.

If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it
won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now,
anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently).

If that's what's happened (try the Uboot update first though because
that fits the symptom as well) best plan is nuke these guys on your
device (kernel + matching rootfs) with dfu

http://buildhost.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/

and start over.

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[arne anka]

> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
> interface by ifconfig.
>
> The command:
> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
>
> results in
> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device

fr is plugged in and powered on? no suspend?
if so, unplug it from the host pc, open a konsole/shell and do

sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog

have a look at the shell and plug in the fr again.
any messages?
there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb  
connections -- rebooting (the fr or the pc, couldn't figure out which, try  
fr first) is supposed to help.
the lattest u-boots are supposed to fix that.

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Yorick Moko]

maybe this can help:
disconnect cable,
restart freerunner,
when booted: connect cable
try again

worked once for me

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Richard Cooke
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I
> suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking
> between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running.
>
> I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps
> as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu
> 8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box.
>
> I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going and
> late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I
> thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again, but
> power it down I did.
>
> The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
> interface by ifconfig.
>
> The command:
> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
>
> results in
> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
>
> I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains.
>
> Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
>
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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Richard Cooke]

It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I
suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking
between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running.

I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps
as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu
8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box.

I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going and
late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I
thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again, but
power it down I did.

The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an
interface by ifconfig.

The command:
ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200

results in
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device

I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains.

Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end.

Thanks,


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Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

[arne anka]

> Now, what's the difference between "daily" and "remote" here
> (considering the hostname is wrong, that's the other change).

until someone suggest better i am going to believe "remote" is just  
another generic placeholder.

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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi Brian,

--- On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| If someone has Qtopia (or any other distro, for that matter) booting
| from microSD, I'd appreciate very step-by-step instructions
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Some quick notes I had made:

1. Download qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz from:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images#Qtopia_image_from_qtopia.net

It extracts to:

  qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.jffs2
  uImage_2008_07_16_gta02_73eeb0333fc771cb696ff9bf17c517c741434b59.bin

2. Prepare SD card (from USB 4-in-1 card reader):

   fdisk /dev/sdb

First partition is 8M.
Use remaining disk space for second partition.

3. Create vfat on /dev/sdb1

   mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1

Rename the uImage kernel to uImage.bin and copy it to the first partition.

4. Create ext2 filesystem on /dev/sdb2

   mke2fs /dev/sdb2

5. Prepare the .tar.gz from .jffs2:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image#Mounting_the_JFFS2_image_on_a_loop_back_device_.28Kernel_Memory_MTD_Emulation.29

modprobe mtdcore
modprobe jffs2
modprobe mtdram total_size=59024
 /* default is 4 MByte - set to max. available size */
modprobe mtdchar
modprobe mtdblock

Check "cat /proc/mtd":
# dev:size   erasesize  name
# mtd0: 039a4000 0002 "mtdram test device"

Use "mtdram" device file (mtd0, in the above):

sudo dd if= of=/dev/mtd0
mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock0 /mnt
sudo tar czf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz -C /mnt .

6. Install root filesystem on the Neo device:

scp qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/mmcblk0p2/

 cd /media/mmcblk0p2
 tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
 rm qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
 rm -f /media/mmcblk0p2/boot/*

7. Press AUX button, choose boot from SD card (VFAT+ext2) and boot
into Qtopia :)

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Re: Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| I changed the kernel name based on something I read stating it had to be
| called uImage.bin (is that wrong?)

It needs to match whatever you called it on the kernel commandline in
U-Boot, our ones use "uImage.bin".

| 3. I upgraded my NAND U-boot to a post-July 23 version. I think I have
| the August 5 version now.

Great.

| 4. I edited by NAND U-boot menu to include:
| setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD part2 (ext2+ext2): setenv bootargs
| \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
| \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 1 0x3200
| \${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x3200

Ignoring the menu stuff for a moment, here is a canned one liner to do
something like what you want

setenv bootcmd  mmcinit \; ext2load mmc 2 0x3200 uImage.bin \;
setenv bootargs \${mtdparts} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2
console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=4 init=/sbin/init \; bootm 0x3200 ; boot

Notice on ext2load the first number is the partition index it should
use, counting from 1.

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Can't Boot Qtopia from microSD

[Brian C]

Hi,

If someone has Qtopia (or any other distro, for that matter) booting
from microSD, I'd appreciate very step-by-step instructions, because it
is not working for me and I have poured over the wiki's various pages
related to this.  Here's what I've done:

1. Partitioned my 8GB microSD card thus:
partition1: FAT32
partition2: ext2
partition3: ext2
partition4: ext2

each partition is roughly 2GB.

2. partition2 is where I want to put Qtopia.
After formatting it ext2 and mounting the partition, I did:
wget http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
tar zvxf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz
mv uImage*.bin uImage.bin

I changed the kernel name based on something I read stating it had to be
called uImage.bin (is that wrong?)

3. I upgraded my NAND U-boot to a post-July 23 version. I think I have
the August 5 version now.

4. I edited by NAND U-boot menu to include:
setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD part2 (ext2+ext2): setenv bootargs
\${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
\${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; ext2load mmc 1 0x3200
\${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x3200

5. I try to boot from that new NAND U-boot option and while the error
page goes away so fast I cannot really read it, by doing it dozens of
times, I think it cannot even mount the ext2 partition, and thus cannot
find a kernel image.  I get shot back to the U-boot menu right away.

Thanks for any help.  If I figure all this out, there is going to be a
single crystal clear wiki page on this when I get done.

Brian

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Jay Vaughan]

LOL!!

j.



On Aug 6, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:

> Am Mi  6. August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger:
>> Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe just adding the link by yourself would have been enough :-(
>>
>> Yay maybe.
>>
>>> My job is to fix your hw and create new one, not to supply links.
>>
>> Well... dunno what your employer tells you to do... but I consider
>> good practice to provide explicit links to valid information for
>> *customer support* interactions, rather than say "Mr smith told
>> something in past 48 hours" when that mr smith posts tons of emails.
>>
>> At least, as a volunteer, I tend to provide explicit information (and
>> complement with wiki editing) as much as I can... so I would expect  
>> so
>> from professionals... but I guess you're overwhelmed by mail, so I
>> know it's hard to take time to browse the web archives to retrieve a
>> link and that adds extra burden compared to coding and such.
>>
>> But please, think about your customers.
>>
>>> C'mon encourage me to give such information in the future, when I  
>>> come
> along.
>>> Best regards
>>> jOERG
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the good job, and sorry for my pendantic tone.
>>
>> P.S.: been working for years in SW industry for customer service on
>> application maintainance, been there, done that ;)
>
> Just note I'm NOT customer support but hw-developer. I have a  
> 10hours day to
> fix HW!!!-bugs, and the mailing lists spam me with ~600mails per day  
> which
> I'm trying to read all of them. I really don't see any chance to  
> care about
> providing links that anybodyelse could find easily, just for your
> convenience, while I might work same time another 5 min on what's  
> I'm payed
> for.
>
> Ok, you convinced me to skip more mail unread, to think twice before  
> answering
> to any ml-posting,
> and to save my time not to answer mail like this one from now on
>
> congrats
> cheers!!!
> jOERG
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Re: Led light stay on after boot

[Jay Vaughan]

> It's not pretty in there.  I guess this is today's topic for debug  
> action.
> - -Andy



Phew!  Go, Andy, go!! :)

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Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

[Olivier Berger]

Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct 
>> contents of the files i've overwritten?
>>
>
> Here's a (partial) log of the session here, which exhibits the
> differences :
>

SNIP

And there's also a new file /etc/opkg/fic-gta02-feed.conf that may
need to be removed / changed ? although I don't see any fic-gta02 dir
in the archive at http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/ ...

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Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

[Olivier Berger]

atweb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Ovverwrite it manually with the new Version:
> "opkg install
> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk";
> This installs direct the file via http without searching in the
> Paket-Database.

I don't get the point here... isn't it the same version as the one in
the subject of that thread ?

I would expect it not to repair the URLS in the opkg sources, then ?

>
>
> Dale Maggee schrieb:
>> agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the
>> correct contents of the files i've overwritten?
>>
>> didn't even notice the 'D' option, to be honest. I'll be using it next time!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>

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Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

[Olivier Berger]

Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> agh, I was foolish enough to hit 'Y'... can somebody give me the correct 
> contents of the files i've overwritten?
>

Here's a (partial) log of the session here, which exhibits the
differences :

Installing distro-feed-configs (1.0-r0) to root...
Downloading 
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk
Configuration file '/etc/opkg/all-feed.conf'
--- /etc/opkg/all-feed.conf-opkg.backup Thu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ /etc/opkg/all-feed.conf Tue Aug  5 05:02:09 2008
@@ -1 +1 @@
-src/gz daily-all http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all
+src/gz remote-all http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all

Configuration file '/etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf'
--- /etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf-opkg.backup  Thu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ /etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf  Tue Aug  5 05:02:09 2008
@@ -1 +1 @@
-src/gz daily-armv4t http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t
+src/gz remote-armv4t http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t

Configuration file '/etc/opkg/neo1973-feed.conf'
--- /etc/opkg/neo1973-feed.conf-opkg.backup Thu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ /etc/opkg/neo1973-feed.conf Tue Aug  5 05:02:09 2008
@@ -1 +1 @@
-src/gz daily-neo1973 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/neo1973
+src/gz remote-neo1973 http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973

Configuration file '/etc/opkg/om-gta02-feed.conf'
--- /etc/opkg/om-gta02-feed.conf-opkg.backupThu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ /etc/opkg/om-gta02-feed.confTue Aug  5 05:02:09 2008
@@ -1 +1 @@
-src/gz daily-om-gta02 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02
+src/gz remote-om-gta02 http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02

Hope this helps.


Now, what's the difference between "daily" and "remote" here
(considering the hostname is wrong, that's the other change).

And what's the point of having something like "neo1973" in addition to
"om-gta02" when I'm running a FR ?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Joerg Reisenweber]

Am Mi  6. August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger:
> Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >
> > Maybe just adding the link by yourself would have been enough :-(
> 
> Yay maybe.
> 
> > My job is to fix your hw and create new one, not to supply links.
> 
> Well... dunno what your employer tells you to do... but I consider
> good practice to provide explicit links to valid information for
> *customer support* interactions, rather than say "Mr smith told
> something in past 48 hours" when that mr smith posts tons of emails.
> 
> At least, as a volunteer, I tend to provide explicit information (and
> complement with wiki editing) as much as I can... so I would expect so
> from professionals... but I guess you're overwhelmed by mail, so I
> know it's hard to take time to browse the web archives to retrieve a
> link and that adds extra burden compared to coding and such.
> 
> But please, think about your customers.
> 
> > C'mon encourage me to give such information in the future, when I come 
along.
> > Best regards
> > jOERG
> >
> 
> Thanks for the good job, and sorry for my pendantic tone.
> 
> P.S.: been working for years in SW industry for customer service on
> application maintainance, been there, done that ;)

Just note I'm NOT customer support but hw-developer. I have a 10hours day to 
fix HW!!!-bugs, and the mailing lists spam me with ~600mails per day which 
I'm trying to read all of them. I really don't see any chance to care about 
providing links that anybodyelse could find easily, just for your 
convenience, while I might work same time another 5 min on what's I'm payed 
for.

Ok, you convinced me to skip more mail unread, to think twice before answering 
to any ml-posting,
and to save my time not to answer mail like this one from now on

congrats
cheers!!!
jOERG



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Re: Uboot

[Matt Joyce]

> Side note - the reason I'm flashing is because after doing an opkg
> update/upgrade on the Qtopia distro, it will no longer boot. It gets to
> the point where it looks like it should be loading up the GUI (tiny
> blinking cursor in the top left, nothing else on the screen) and hangs
> there. Anyone else had this problem?
>
> Aaron
>
> p.s. doesn't look like flashing u-boot helped either :(
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I had similar symptoms, though not with Qtopia, with 2007.2 (hmm,maybe FSO).
The black screen and cursor was the same though.

If you boot without USB plugged in does that work?
I think it help me, but I reflashed everything and the problem went away.

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Re: Qtopia post-mortem

[Aaron Sowry]

Aaron Sowry wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just now flashed my Freerunner with today's [August 5th] uboot and the 
> latest 
> Qtopia uImage and rootfs available from their website. After flashing it 
> boots up fine, and I run 'opkg update' followed by 'opkg upgrade' which 
> results in a lengthy process but seems to complete successfully. 
>
> After a reboot, everything seems to go fine right up until the point 
> which the Qtopia GUI tries to load

I'm going to continue this issue under a more descriptive heading 
because it is a reproducible bug. Running the qpe process directly 
(bypassing the init script which gets stuck in a rather uninformative 
infinite loop) results in the following error:

qpe: symbol lookup error: /opt/Qtopia/lib/libqtopiapim.so.4: undefined 
symbol: _ZN11QListWidget9dropEventEP10QDropEvent

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and suggest that this seems to 
be some kind of ABI breakage caused by an upgrade to some package, but I 
have no idea which one. I will peruse the source and see if I can narrow 
it down.

In the meantime has anyone done an 'opkg upgrade' on their Qtopia image 
recently without it breaking like this? Conversely, has anyone else 
experienced the same thing and can confirm it's not just me doing 
something dumb?

Aaron

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Re: distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk

[W.Kenworthy]

What settings did you use? I cant find a copy anywhere to see what they
should be :(

BillK

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:46 -0500, Feydreva wrote:
> yeah, I saw that yesterday... I had to change manually the file again
> after the upgrade...
> 
> http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/ was also the adresse when you
> image with FSO
> 
> I do not know from where this adress comes from...
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:55 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> why does distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk attempt to
> overwrite all
> feeds' url with
> http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/
> ?
> this will ultimately kill any further update until replaced
> with
> meaningful url!
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Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu

[Olivier Berger]

Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>
> Maybe just adding the link by yourself would have been enough :-(

Yay maybe.

> My job is to fix your hw and create new one, not to supply links.

Well... dunno what your employer tells you to do... but I consider
good practice to provide explicit links to valid information for
*customer support* interactions, rather than say "Mr smith told
something in past 48 hours" when that mr smith posts tons of emails.

At least, as a volunteer, I tend to provide explicit information (and
complement with wiki editing) as much as I can... so I would expect so
from professionals... but I guess you're overwhelmed by mail, so I
know it's hard to take time to browse the web archives to retrieve a
link and that adds extra burden compared to coding and such.

But please, think about your customers.

> C'mon encourage me to give such information in the future, when I come along.
> Best regards
> jOERG
>

Thanks for the good job, and sorry for my pendantic tone.

P.S.: been working for years in SW industry for customer service on
application maintainance, been there, done that ;)

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