Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Edmund
NoOp wrote:
 Then you'd be seriously mistaken. Users have spent considerable time 
 effort integrating lightning calendars  data into their systems. If you
 think that there was backlash with SM 1.1.x and forms, wait until they
 try 2.1 and try backing down to 2.0 and realize that their calendars no
 longer are compatible.
 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=46t=1248265
 http://mozilla-xp.com/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey/Please-help-testing-For-SeaMonkey-2.1-Alpha-1-candidates
 
 I *highly* recommend that the Council sort out the issues (personal
 and technical) with the SeaMonkey  Lightning folks *before* any SM 2.1
 release. If you don't then I suspect that you'll continue to lose space
 with MS Office  other browser/calendar integration offerings. IMO
 seamless Lightning integration with SeaMonkey is critical to SeaMonkey's
 future.

I'd like to add my unsolicited $0.02.

I'm one of the SeaMonkey devs (well, beginner I must add and a
relative newcomer to the scene, though I have used SeaMonkey,
and before that Mozilla and Netscape).  Should have volunteered
a long time ago.

As Justin pointed out, the issue is human resources.  It's simple as
that.  It's not personal.  Not Technical. (Well, to me, my skill set
really is limited I'm sorry to say).  I'm still earnestly learning
the ropes, but there's really only so many hours in a day and
how much I can volunteer for it.

While I can't speak for everyone, but I believe the feeling is the
same.  We all want to add all features, and fix all bugs in SeaMonkey
and its associated extensions(in this case, Lightning); but we
really don't have that much time and we need more devs to help out.

What I do thank for is you and everyone's continued patience with
the dev team.  I'll do my darndest to help with the bugs and
features while trying to learn the ropes as well.

Edmund

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


On 12/29/2010 10:05 PM, NoOp wrote:


Here is a paste of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to
know and work with your system directly from 2.0.11. There are of
course more examples in the bug report, but that one works for me.


Which is in and of itself not broken. Copy/Paste of it works. You
just get spaces, which if you copy/paste that whole string back into
SeaMonkey you'll load the page (at the anchor) correctly.


But if you mouse over it, you'll see in the status bar that SM doesn't 
parse beyond the first space, angle brackets notwithstanding, so 
clicking the link in NoOp's post takes you to 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting, which yields the top of the 
page, not the desired bookmark.


Here's a clickable link that does take you directly to the bookmark:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-12-29 10:05 PM, NoOp wrote:

I don't think that I've misunderstood; the bug was opened in November
2009 with 2.0.1pre  1.1.18. It was/is well documented, and is an
outstanding issue going back to January 2009 (Firefox), see:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475896. It is NOT a New
feature.

There are thousands of 2.0.x SeaMonkey users (at least one would hope
so) out there that still have this issue. Marking the bug as 'FIXED' on
a yet to be released 2.1 trunk IMO simply doesn't cut it IMO.

If we expect users to install 2.1pre versions simply so that they can
copy  paste a url from the url bar, then I suspect that no fixes in any
current version of SeaMonkey (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/) will
ever be satisfied.


Hi NoOp,
Unfortunately, your understanding of how development and bugzilla works 
is incorrect. Put it this way, when a new major version of SeaMonkey is 
released, are developers supposed to start going through hundreds of 
bugs they've fixed over the past year and start making them as fixed? 
What if the bug is in more than one release?


Maintenance mode (or stable branch) means that changes can only be made 
to the code if doesn't:

* break extensions
* require localizers to translate more strings
(and probably more, but the general idea is not to make changes that are 
going to break other things)


If a bug appears in both the trunk and branch (which is usually the 
case), the fix is first applied to the trunk. You can then request that 
it be applied to the branch. Someone will then review patch, to see if 
it is safe enough to be applied to the stable branch, and if it is apply 
that patch and add the appropriate keyword to the bug. In some cases, 
the assignee may need to create a separate patch just for the stable 
branch.


No-one is telling users that you have to download a pre-release to see 
the fix (Although it would be helpful to test it). It's just a matter of 
which end-user release users will experience the fix: the next 2.0.x 
release or 2.1.


Phillip marked the bug as a duplicate of bug 613199, so bug 613199 is 
the one you need to nominate for SeaMonkey 2.0.


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Re: Notification on birthdays from SeaMonkey (SM) v2's addressbooks?

2010-12-30 Thread Rickles

Ant wrote:

On 12/29/2010 9:01 AM PT, Rickles typed:


Not natively, but there are a couple of alternatives:
*-Lightning, which is a calendar development and separate program (like
browser and email are separate programs of the suite)
*-An SM add-on called ReminderFox.

I can't speak for Lightning, but there is a support newsgroup for it on
this server. We use ReminderFox, which integrates into the browser and
mail windows. You set your reminders by date, and how you want the
program to remind you, and you're set. It doesn't read anything from
your *.mab files, but once you've put recurring events in, it'll repeat
the reminders next time 'round.

We have it installed on SM 2.0.11 under XP and Windows 7 machines, and
no complaints.


Also, I don't see it mentions SeaMonkey support in
http://www.reminderfox.org/documentation-install/ ... Or is there
another site to get it for SM2?

At the following link you'll find many different add-ons to SeaMonkey:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/

At the top of the list when I last viewed it was ReminderFox (you may 
have to scroll to find it.)  Click on the 'Add to SeaMonkey' link and 
you should be prompted about installing it.  Click on 'Install now' and 
the file will download and install in one step.  In order to see the 
add-on functioning you'll have to re-start SM, and then you can 
customize to your heart's content.


Enjoy.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Stéphane Grégoire
Hi,

WLS a tapoté, le 30/12/2010 01:43:
 Lightning 1.1a1pre (32-bit) works just fine for me in SM 2.1b2pre 
 (32-bit) on openSUSE 11.3.
 
 ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/lightning/nightly/linux-xpi/


The link which is working with Seamonkey 2.1b2pre is
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-central/linux-xpi/

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Re: Notification on birthdays from SeaMonkey (SM) v2's addressbooks?

2010-12-30 Thread gNeandr

[30.12.2010 07:17] »Ant« wrote:

On 12/29/2010 9:01 AM PT, Rickles typed:


Not natively, but there are a couple of alternatives:
*-Lightning, which is a calendar development and separate program (like
browser and email are separate programs of the suite)
*-An SM add-on called ReminderFox.

I can't speak for Lightning, but there is a support newsgroup for it on
this server. We use ReminderFox, which integrates into the browser and
mail windows. You set your reminders by date, and how you want the
program to remind you, and you're set. It doesn't read anything from
your *.mab files, but once you've put recurring events in, it'll repeat
the reminders next time 'round.

We have it installed on SM 2.0.11 under XP and Windows 7 machines, and
no complaints.


Also, I don't see it mentions SeaMonkey support in 
http://www.reminderfox.org/documentation-install/ ... Or is there 
another site to get it for SM2?
You are totally right .. and it's somehow frustrating not to see the 
compatibility of ReminderFox with the other Mozilla applications,


   - Seamonkey
   - Thunderbird
   - Postbox

Those apps give the user Email Integration – Messages
see here:
http://www.reminderfox.org/documentation-email-messages/

But that page also has only partial description of the whole feature set 
which ReminderFox offers.


I have written a more detailed documentation at

   http://reminderfox.mozdev.org/infoPages/en/overview.html

.. but unfortunately that was not taken to the official pages -- until 
now, sorry.
(Don't blame me for the English text, I'm a native German, but I hope it 
will help anyway)


Günter

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:26:08 -0800, NoOp wrote:

 I *highly* recommend that the Council sort out the issues (personal
 and technical) with the SeaMonkey  Lightning folks *before* any SM 2.1

Unfortunately there are no Lightning folks plural left. There is one
solitary volunteer who works on it in between his exams and the
occasional drive by patch from some outsider (possibly a linux distro
person fixing a bug). If *you* want to help try to get more people
involved in Lightning development.

Phil

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Robert Kaiser

NoOp schrieb:

Phillip Chee pointed out this in:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531210
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531210#c15
quote
The SeaMonkey 2.0.x branch is in maintenance mode. Only security and
stability fixes are allowed.
/quote

If this is the case, then shouldn't standard users be notified of this on:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
particularly since that is the Official download site and the supposed
official release of SeaMonkey?


Why? Any stable release series in in maintenance mode, i.e. only gets 
stability and security improvements. New features only ever go into 
not-yet-stable release series (right now 2.1). That's common policy in 
almost all software project and doesn't need special mention.



I'd also appreciate comments as to the direction of SeaMonkey;
- will users go through yet another SM 1.x to 2.0 transition in the near
future?


Why that? They are not using 1.x any more if the ever think of security.


- will provisions be made for importing/exporting lightning calendars?


Ask the calendar project, this is an add-on and completely up to their 
developers.



- what can users expect in the 2.0 to 2.1 transition?


That 2.0 profiles will just work in 2.1 - downgrading from 2.1 to 2.0 
might even work, but might have some flaws which we only intend to fix 
if it's easy (e.g. 2.1 bookmarks will never automatically work in 2.0).



As you all know, it was a pretty difficult transition for some users to
go from SM 1.x to 2.0. If 2.0 is now maintenance only mode, then I
wonder if it is worth continuing with SeaMonkey further.


Why? I completely don't understand what's wrong with a well-maintained 
stable release series. Maintenance mode means that we still maintain 
it and keep it stable and secure, but just promise to not make any large 
changes - those go into the next not-yet-stable release series.



Followup-To set for mozilla.support.seamonkey as this is an user
issue/concern.


Not having read there yet, I ignore any replies that are already there 
until I get there in my reading, so I'm sorry if I'm just duplicating 
stuff here.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Robert Kaiser

NoOp schrieb:

There are thousands of 2.0.x SeaMonkey users (at least one would hope
so) out there that still have this issue. Marking the bug as 'FIXED' on
a yet to be released 2.1 trunk IMO simply doesn't cut it IMO.


FIXED always means fixed in the version set as target milestone 
and/or the current development version. You're right that there are 
thousands of SeaMonkey 2.0.x users and exactly that's why we don't 
magically change the behavior with a possibly silent security update 
(unless we have to for security reasons) as then they'd start to 
mistrust our security updates.


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Restore Seamonkey Icon??

2010-12-30 Thread Willard

I have the MS white page shortcut icon to SeaMonkey on my desktop..
Is there a way to restore the original Seamonkey Icon shortcut???
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Robert Kaiser

NoOp schrieb:

wait until they
try 2.1 and try backing down to 2.0 and realize that their calendars no
longer are compatible.


Who says that they would not be compatible? From all I know, they are 
perfectly compatible so far.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: Restore Seamonkey Icon??

2010-12-30 Thread Ray_Net

Willard wrote:

I have the MS white page shortcut icon to SeaMonkey on my desktop..
Is there a way to restore the original Seamonkey Icon shortcut???


Have you tried to change the icon - Browse until you find:

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe ?
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Ray_Net

Robert Kaiser wrote:


That 2.0 profiles will just work in 2.1 - downgrading from 2.1 to 2.0
might even work, but might have some flaws which we only intend to fix
if it's easy (e.g. 2.1 bookmarks will never automatically work in 2.0).



So the downgrading to 2.0 is NOT possible - Great news . :-(
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Re: Restore Seamonkey Icon??

2010-12-30 Thread Willard

Ray_Net wrote:

Willard wrote:

I have the MS white page shortcut icon to SeaMonkey on my desktop..
Is there a way to restore the original Seamonkey Icon shortcut???


Have you tried to change the icon - Browse until you find:

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe ?


I have tried that, but the Seamonkey Icon is not included
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Re: Restore Seamonkey Icon??

2010-12-30 Thread Gerald Ross

Willard wrote:

I have the MS white page shortcut icon to SeaMonkey on my desktop..
Is there a way to restore the original Seamonkey Icon shortcut???

Change iconbrowseclick on seamonkey.exe

I am using 2.0.11 and when I click on seamonkey.exe it shows three 
choices of icons.  Just select the Icon you want to use.


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Re: Restore Seamonkey Icon??

2010-12-30 Thread Michael Gordon

Gerald Ross wrote:

Willard wrote:

I have the MS white page shortcut icon to SeaMonkey on my desktop..
Is there a way to restore the original Seamonkey Icon shortcut???

Change iconbrowseclick on seamonkey.exe

I am using 2.0.11 and when I click on seamonkey.exe it shows three
choices of icons. Just select the Icon you want to use.



This is correct.  Here is another option.
Use windows explorer to locate the Icons folder:
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2.1\chrome\icons\default
(SeaMonkey2.1 is my selected folder to install SeaMonkey 2.x into)

With older versions of SeaMonkey and the Mozilla Suite you can find the 
older versions of the icons by following the install path for their .exe 
files).


Michael
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Re: Restore Seamonkey Icon??

2010-12-30 Thread Willard

Gerald Ross wrote:

Willard wrote:

I have the MS white page shortcut icon to SeaMonkey on my desktop..
Is there a way to restore the original Seamonkey Icon shortcut???

Change iconbrowseclick on seamonkey.exe

I am using 2.0.11 and when I click on seamonkey.exe it shows three 
choices of icons.  Just select the Icon you want to use.



Thanks so much, that did it.. (right in front of my nose)
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Re: Notification on birthdays from SeaMonkey (SM) v2's addressbooks?

2010-12-30 Thread Ant

On 12/30/2010 3:22 AM PT, gNeandr typed:


I have written a more detailed documentation at

http://reminderfox.mozdev.org/infoPages/en/overview.html

.. but unfortunately that was not taken to the official pages -- until
now, sorry.
(Don't blame me for the English text, I'm a native German, but I hope it
will help anyway)


Thanks. It's not too bad. :)
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Re: Notification on birthdays from SeaMonkey (SM) v2's addressbooks?

2010-12-30 Thread Ant

On 12/30/2010 2:42 AM PT, Rickles typed:


Also, I don't see it mentions SeaMonkey support in
http://www.reminderfox.org/documentation-install/ ... Or is there
another site to get it for SM2?



At the following link you'll find many different add-ons to SeaMonkey:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/

At the top of the list when I last viewed it was ReminderFox (you may
have to scroll to find it.) Click on the 'Add to SeaMonkey' link and you
should be prompted about installing it. Click on 'Install now' and the
file will download and install in one step. In order to see the add-on
functioning you'll have to re-start SM, and then you can customize to
your heart's content.


Thanks. I wonder why the developer doesn't mention SM on his own web 
site. :/

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Re: PDF files

2010-12-30 Thread Pat Connors

Thanks cyberzen  David for you help.

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\nppdf32.dll
if acrobat install does not recognizes seamonkey 2* you should get it in
an other plugin directory
   


I have this in my Seamonkey plugins folder, what do you mean 'you should 
get it in an other plugin directory'?  Where are there other plugin 
directories??



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Re: PDF files

2010-12-30 Thread Pat Connors

Thank you, David, yes it is checked.


Also go to Adobe Reader.  On the menu bar, select [Edit  Preferences].
  On the left (under Categories), select Internet.  Is the checkbox for
Display PDF in browser checked?
   



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Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread William Morrison



Walter wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-12-29 12:19 PM, Walter wrote:

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bp-cf71e4a4-b0b1-461e-ae03-e5c432100616 6/16/2010 1:42 PM


Are you using the latest version of Flash? Go to
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ to find out.



I was not but now have installed it. Thanks for the help. I will see 
if that helps.


w.
I have a question about this plugincheck, I've ran it twice and 
installed all of what it tells me needs updating but if I run it again 
it still tells me that I need to update Shockwave Flash plugin. I've 
installed it twice now with a coldboot after the second install and it 
still shows an update available. What gives XP Home Sp3 Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101123 
SeaMonkey/2.0.11


William
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ray_Net schrieb:

Robert Kaiser wrote:


That 2.0 profiles will just work in 2.1 - downgrading from 2.1 to 2.0
might even work, but might have some flaws which we only intend to fix
if it's easy (e.g. 2.1 bookmarks will never automatically work in 2.0).



So the downgrading to 2.0 is NOT possible - Great news . :-(


I just said that it actually is possible, but it might have some flaws 
(small annoyances, not large problems). And 2.1 bookmarks will not just 
work in 2.0, you need to export to a bookmarks.html first, and that one 
should work fine in 2.0, then.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:58:14 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 NoOp schrieb:
 wait until they
 try 2.1 and try backing down to 2.0 and realize that their calendars no
 longer are compatible.
 
 Who says that they would not be compatible? From all I know, they are 
 perfectly compatible so far.

There is an incompatible change in the Lightning schema. It was
mentioned in the calendar newsgroups and possibly planet.

Phil

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Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread Walter



Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-12-28 12:37 PM, Walter wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-12-27 6:38 PM, Walter wrote:

Using CM 2.0.11 on HP P6204y, 6gb memory, 750 gb hard drive, Win 7 home
premium

I frequently get Seamonkey crashed quit Seamonkey or restart and
details.

Here are the details:

Add-ons:
{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}:1.3.2,{8A6C82A1-F6C9-481a-AAE7-C96444C9A754}:5.1.1,{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}:1.0,mod...@themes.mozilla.org:1.0



Any suggestions? This happens mostly on Facebook applications, though
not always. I can find no pattern.


Do you have a link to the crash report on
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/? If not, go to the address
about:crashes (without the quotes) and click on your latest crash
report. We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a
better idea of what is causing the problem.



I can access both links but they make absolutely no sense to me.
However, I get the following additional information on about:crashes
Maybe it will help in diagnosing the problem.


We need the URLs. They will make sense to us. :-)
(More specifically, we're looking for the crash signature)



Crashed again after the reload of Flash. Again a copy of the error 
report follows. The url is part of the report.


Walter.


Add-ons: 
{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}:1.3.2,{8A6C82A1-F6C9-481a-AAE7-C96444C9A754}:5.1.1,{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}:1.0,mod...@themes.mozilla.org:1.0

BuildID: 20101123124820
CrashTime: 1293739151
InstallTime: 1292344168
ProductName: SeaMonkey
SecondsSinceLastCrash: 95272
StartupTime: 1293737908
Theme: classic/1.0
Throttleable: 1
URL: 
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/electrical-plumbing/18-strangest-bathrooms-in-the-world

Vendor: Mozilla
Version: 2.0.11

This report also contains technical information about
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Filters Question - Customize Option?

2010-12-30 Thread Rufus
What exactly does the Customize option/selection for Filters under the 
first column using Edit do, and how does one use it?


Assuming one can use it...I can't find anything about it in Help.

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Re: Restore Seamonkey Icon??

2010-12-30 Thread Ray_Net

Willard wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Willard wrote:

I have the MS white page shortcut icon to SeaMonkey on my desktop..
Is there a way to restore the original Seamonkey Icon shortcut???


Have you tried to change the icon - Browse until you find:

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe ?


I have tried that, but the Seamonkey Icon is not included


That's not possible.
I have installed DropMyRigth and i affected it of an icon included in:
%ProgramFiles%\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe
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Re: Block an email sender??

2010-12-30 Thread L. Mark Hall
This would be much better if it was a server level feature. It would be 
very nice if SM could send a list of blocked addresses to the server 
when it requests new mail downloads. If there is a message from an 
address on the blocked list, the server will delete it instead of 
sending it for download. Better yet, the server will respond to the 
email sender that the address is invalid and undeliverable.


LMH


Willard wrote:

cyberzen wrote:

Ray_Net a écrit :

Willard wrote:

Is there a way in seaMonkey to block an email sender
similar to Outlook Express???

I don't understand ...
If i send you a mail ... you cannot block me.
My email client send the mail to my isp mail server.
My isp mail server send the mail to your isp mail server.
If your mail adress doesnot exist at your isp mail server, this isp mail
server send me a mail saying : This mail adress doesnot exist.

I other words, you canot block me sending a mail.

what about trashing a sender with a filter ?


Thanks, that will do it..
:)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 12/30/2010 4:15 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


On 12/29/2010 10:05 PM, NoOp wrote:


Here is a paste of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to
know and work with your system directly from 2.0.11. There are of
course more examples in the bug report, but that one works for me.


Which is in and of itself not broken. Copy/Paste of it works. You
just get spaces, which if you copy/paste that whole string back into
SeaMonkey you'll load the page (at the anchor) correctly.


But if you mouse over it, you'll see in the status bar that SM doesn't
parse beyond the first space, angle brackets notwithstanding, so
clicking the link in NoOp's post takes you to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting, which yields the top of the
page, not the desired bookmark.

Here's a clickable link that does take you directly to the bookmark:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system


His issue was not link-parsing in mailnews [which, fwiw can be SOLVED 
with HTML mail, since the link is an anchor tag, in quotes]. but the 
copy/paste behavior. Which I addressed. Mailnews linkage is a different 
story as well. (and NOT A BUG imo for mailnews since the auto-link in 
text-only-mode is correct)


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Robert Kaiser

Philip Chee schrieb:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:58:14 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:

NoOp schrieb:

wait until they
try 2.1 and try backing down to 2.0 and realize that their calendars no
longer are compatible.


Who says that they would not be compatible? From all I know, they are
perfectly compatible so far.


There is an incompatible change in the Lightning schema. It was
mentioned in the calendar newsgroups and possibly planet.


But IIRC updates work fine with that, just downgrades don't, right?

Robert Kaiser


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Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

William Morrison wrote:


I have a question about this plugincheck, I've ran it twice and
installed all of what it tells me needs updating but if I run it again
it still tells me that I need to update Shockwave Flash plugin. I've
installed it twice now with a coldboot after the second install and it
still shows an update available. What gives XP Home Sp3 Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101123
SeaMonkey/2.0.11


My system has Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102, which is reported as 
outdated, but the new version is 10.1.102.64, so I'm not too terribly 
alarmed. At a certain level of subtlety, the site should just say, 
close enough for rock 'n' roll, don'tcha think?


Similarly, I have Adobe Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 
11.5, but the latest version is 11.5.9.615 -- big f***in' deal.


Or maybe the plugincheck page isn't sophisticated enough to recognize 
notational equivalents?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


On 12/30/2010 4:15 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


On 12/29/2010 10:05 PM, NoOp wrote:


Here is a paste of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to
know and work with your system directly from 2.0.11. There are of
course more examples in the bug report, but that one works for me.


Which is in and of itself not broken. Copy/Paste of it works. You
just get spaces, which if you copy/paste that whole string back into
SeaMonkey you'll load the page (at the anchor) correctly.


But if you mouse over it, you'll see in the status bar that SM doesn't
parse beyond the first space, angle brackets notwithstanding, so
clicking the link in NoOp's post takes you to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting, which yields the top of the
page, not the desired bookmark.

Here's a clickable link that does take you directly to the bookmark:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system



His issue was not link-parsing in mailnews [which, fwiw can be SOLVED
with HTML mail, since the link is an anchor tag, in quotes]. but the
copy/paste behavior. Which I addressed. Mailnews linkage is a different
story as well. (and NOT A BUG imo for mailnews since the auto-link in
text-only-mode is correct)


Fair enough, assuming the sender is interested and savvy enough to do 
this. In my experience, the vast majority of end users don't even use 
angle brackets, so it would be a better system if Mozilla improved its 
link parsing in mail/news messages.



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recieve and post by newsgroup only

2010-12-30 Thread L. Mark Hall
I have been looking at the SM support posts for quite a while, and 
posting now and then. I am currently receiving posts by email, but I 
also have setup news.mozilla.org m.s.seamonkey in my newsreader. I would 
like to move to using only the newsreader, since there are just too many 
messages in the email account I am using.


How do I go about making sure I can post from the newsreader and 
stopping the email messages from support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org.


LMH
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Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-12-30 3:05 PM, Walter wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


Do you have a link to the crash report on
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/? If not, go to the address
about:crashes (without the quotes) and click on your latest crash
report. We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a
better idea of what is causing the problem.


Crashed again after the reload of Flash. Again a copy of the error
report follows. The url is part of the report.



We need the crash ID or report URL (found in about:crashes).

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Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-12-30 6:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

My system has Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102, which is reported as
outdated, but the new version is 10.1.102.64, so I'm not too terribly
alarmed. At a certain level of subtlety, the site should just say,
close enough for rock 'n' roll, don'tcha think?


The security vulnerabilities fixed in those Flash updates are huge. 
That's one of the reasons why Mozilla created to plugin check page.


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Re: recieve and post by newsgroup only

2010-12-30 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-12-30 6:45 PM, L. Mark Hall wrote:

I have been looking at the SM support posts for quite a while, and
posting now and then. I am currently receiving posts by email, but I
also have setup news.mozilla.org m.s.seamonkey in my newsreader. I would
like to move to using only the newsreader, since there are just too many
messages in the email account I am using.

How do I go about making sure I can post from the newsreader and
stopping the email messages from support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org.


If you're subscribed to the newsgroup, there isn't anything else you 
need to do to be able to post.


To unsubscribe from the mailing list, go to 
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey, and follow the 
instructions at the last text field on the page.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread NoOp
On 12/29/2010 08:22 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 12/29/2010 10:05 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 12/29/2010 04:15 AM, Neil wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 As you all know, it was a pretty difficult transition for some
 users to go from SM 1.x to 2.0. If 2.0 is now maintenance only
 mode, then I wonder if it is worth continuing with SeaMonkey
 further.


 I think you have misunderstood the point of maintenance. New
 features are always developed on trunk. At some point, we'll put a
 temporary freeze on new features, to allow as many remaining bugs in
 those features to be discovered and fixed. Locale strings are also
 normally frozen at this point. Eventually we decide we're ready and
 create a release branch. Development on the next version of SeaMonkey
 can then restart on trunk (in practice we don't have the resources
 for this until after the release.) Meanwhile the release branch fixes
 last-minute bugs at which point we can then release the x.x.0
 version. But that's not the end of the branch; bugs are always being
 found, and if they have a severe impact (e.g. data loss, crash) then
 they are fixed on the branch and typically every month a maintenance
 release containing these fixes is delivered.


 I don't think that I've misunderstood;
 
 Yes you have misunderstood what maintenance mode means. The following 
 part of your explanation does not correlate to what maintenance mode 
 means. nor does it have anything to do with our discussion, even so I'll 
 address those points.
 
   the bug was opened in November
 2009 with 2.0.1pre  1.1.18. It was/is well documented, and is an
 outstanding issue going back to January 2009 (Firefox),
 
 Yes it was opened against Firefox. and as such was not reported as a 
 SeaMonkey Bug. (So 2.0.1pre, and 1.1.18 are irrelevant here -- even if 
 it exists in SeaMonkey). But lets presume that it was a SeaMonkey bug 
 for sake of argument...  it was found AFTER the 2.0.0 release (2.0.1pre) 
 which means it would fall into criteria for a maintenance release.

It was reported after this thread:
SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion
10/30/2009
I then went ahead and filed the bug.
Use your *SeaMonkey* newsreader to review.

 
  see:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475896. It is NOT a New
 feature.
 
 No it is a trivial bug fix that accompanies with it a behavior change 
 that some others may rely on. We do not take behavior changes/new 
 features in a security release. The only behavior changes that matter 
 are those that fix even more serious bugs [not an edge case like this] 
 or are accompanying a real security threat. And are rated on a case by 
 case basis. [read on]

If it's trivial, then why not target it for something other than
Target Milestone:   seamonkey2.1b2
??

2.0.12 *might* occur...

But Philipp's fix was dated:
2010-11-21 07:38:47 PST
SeaMonkey 2.0.11 was released December 9:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases
quote
SeaMonkey 2.0.11 December 9 (tied to Firefox 3.5.16)
/quote

 
 There are thousands of 2.0.x SeaMonkey users (at least one would hope
 so) out there that still have this issue.
 
 The bug is valid, so every user has this issue. The fact though is that 
 not every user encounters it, nor of those that do actually care. [or 
 perhaps RELY on the space behavior for other reason]

BS

 
   Marking the bug as 'FIXED' on
 a yet to be released 2.1 trunk IMO simply doesn't cut it IMO.
 
 Marking the bug as FIXED didn't happen. Its not fixed, there is not even 
 a reviewed patch that can be requested approval for the maintenance 
 branch. And as I said above, its a Firefox bug, in Firefox code. So 
 nothing (aside from writing the fix it for Firefox ourselves, with our 
 limited resources) we could do for it.

OK, it was marked as RESOLVED as in:
This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 613199 ***
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613199
Status:  RESOLVED FIXED
Product:SeaMonkey

Hence, it was technically marked as FIXED.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_activity.cgi?id=531210

 
 If we expect users to install 2.1pre versions simply so that they can
 copy  paste a url from the url bar, then I suspect that no fixes in any
 current version of SeaMonkey (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/) will
 ever be satisfied.
 
 No, any user can copy/paste a url from the url bar. Pasting back into 
 the urlbar of any current Mozilla-Based application, space or no space, 
 will work just fine. It's said other applications bug if they don't 
 convert ' ' to '%20'. If copy/paste was entirely broken, in SeaMonkey 
 2.0.x that would be not only a regression, but a blocker imo; and I 
 would be sure to devote resources to fix it, and happy to approve it 
 landing in the 2.0 maintenance branch.

Really? Why don't you switch to SM 2.0.11 instead of Thunderbird 3.1.7
and try it?

 
 Here is a paste of:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to know and work with your
 system
 directly from 2.0.11. There are of course more 

Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread JD

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-12-30 6:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

My system has Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102, which is reported as
outdated, but the new version is 10.1.102.64, so I'm not too terribly
alarmed. At a certain level of subtlety, the site should just say,
close enough for rock 'n' roll, don'tcha think?


The security vulnerabilities fixed in those Flash updates are huge.
That's one of the reasons why Mozilla created to plugin check page.



Chris..

I didn't know the page even existed.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/#list-plugins

One stop plug-in shopping.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread NoOp
On 12/30/2010 02:47 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 12/30/2010 4:15 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

 On 12/29/2010 10:05 PM, NoOp wrote:

 Here is a paste of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to
 know and work with your system directly from 2.0.11. There are of
 course more examples in the bug report, but that one works for me.

 Which is in and of itself not broken. Copy/Paste of it works. You
 just get spaces, which if you copy/paste that whole string back into
 SeaMonkey you'll load the page (at the anchor) correctly.

 But if you mouse over it, you'll see in the status bar that SM doesn't
 parse beyond the first space, angle brackets notwithstanding, so
 clicking the link in NoOp's post takes you to
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting, which yields the top of the
 page, not the desired bookmark.

 Here's a clickable link that does take you directly to the bookmark:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system
 
 His issue was not link-parsing in mailnews [which, fwiw can be SOLVED 
 with HTML mail, since the link is an anchor tag, in quotes]. but the 
 copy/paste behavior. Which I addressed. Mailnews linkage is a different 
 story as well. (and NOT A BUG imo for mailnews since the auto-link in 
 text-only-mode is correct)
 

You are recommending that I use HTML mail?


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Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Chris Ilias wrote:


On 10-12-30 6:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


My system has Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102, which is reported as
outdated, but the new version is 10.1.102.64, so I'm not too
terribly alarmed. At a certain level of subtlety, the site should
just say, close enough for rock 'n' roll, don'tcha think?


The security vulnerabilities fixed in those Flash updates are huge.
That's one of the reasons why Mozilla created to plugin check page.


OK, your word huge was enough to alarm me, so I went to the Adobe site 
and installed both plugins. When I returned to the plugincheck page, it 
still didn't recognize Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102 as the current version, 
but it approved Shockwave for Director 11.5.9.615.


I concluded that either there's a bug in the way plugincheck matches 
version numbers reported by SeaMonkey to version numbers reported by 
Adobe, or Adobe's installer is failing to update my system, or SeaMonkey 
is not reporting version numbers correctly. So I went to Add/Remove 
programs, located the Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin, and clicked for 
support information. Sure enough, the system reported my version as 
10.1.102.64, just as it should. The third theory (bad SM version 
reporting) seems to be confirmed. With version 10.1.102.64, SM is 
reporting version 10.1 r102, so of course plugincheck thinks it's a 
mismatch.


I would also add that I think it's inappropriate and misleading to patch 
a huge security hole (unless that was just hyperbole on your part) and 
use a version number that differs only in the fourth place. If it's that 
big a deal, the version numbering should be more obviously different.


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Re: Seamonkey Crash

2010-12-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
P.S. Adobe thinks I have version 10,1,102,64. It's only Mozilla's 
plugincheck that complains -- and that's because SM is reporting version 
10.1 r102.


http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

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Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/30/10 2:52 PM, L. Mark Hall wrote:
 Doesn't your router software have release/renew? I can just log into 
 mine and get a new IP.
 
 LMH

I tried that.  After releasing, I waited about a minute before renewing.
 I got the same IP address that I had before.

On the other hand, by connecting directly from my PC to the modem  --
bypassing the router -- I was able to get a new IP address by releasing
and renewing.  The direct connection from PC to modem is what Road
Runner recommends.

In my setup, I think the external IP address is controlled by the cable
modem and not the router.  I'm guessing that the release and renew
operations do not get past the router to the modem.

The setup is:

2 PCs running Windows XP, each connected to the same router

cable/DSL Internet router with 4 LAN ports (only 2 being used) and
built-in firewall, Netgear RP614 v.4, connected to the modem

Motorola SURFboard SB5100 cable modem, connected via Time Warner Cable
to Road Runner


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Re: Filters Question - Customize Option?

2010-12-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/30/10 1:52 PM, Rufus wrote:
 What exactly does the Customize option/selection for Filters under the 
 first column using Edit do, and how does one use it?
 
 Assuming one can use it...I can't find anything about it in Help.
 

When you create or edit a filter, the first column identifies header
fields in the messages to be filtered.  There is a small set header
fields already in the repertoire of the column.  The Custom option
allows you to add more header fields.

For example, I added Injection-Info and User-Agent to the column's list.
 Now, when I create a new filter, those two appear along with Subject,
From, Date, and Size.  I don't think I'm currently using Injection-Info,
but I am definitely using User-Agent (per my signature below).

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 12/30/2010 10:16 PM, NoOp wrote:

Really? Why don't you switch to SM 2.0.11 instead of Thunderbird 3.1.7
and try it?


Because I was, (and *am* in the middle of a compile cycle right now). I 
use Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and Firefox regularly.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 12/30/2010 10:18 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/30/2010 02:47 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 12/30/2010 4:15 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


On 12/29/2010 10:05 PM, NoOp wrote:


Here is a paste of:https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to
know and work with your system  directly from 2.0.11. There are of
course more examples in the bug report, but that one works for me.


Which is in and of itself not broken. Copy/Paste of it works. You
just get spaces, which if you copy/paste that whole string back into
SeaMonkey you'll load the page (at the anchor) correctly.


But if you mouse over it, you'll see in the status bar that SM doesn't
parse beyond the first space, angle brackets notwithstanding, so
clicking the link in NoOp's post takes you to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting, which yields the top of the
page, not the desired bookmark.

Here's a clickable link that does take you directly to the bookmark:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system


His issue was not link-parsing in mailnews [which, fwiw can be SOLVED
with HTML mail, since the link is an anchor tag, in quotes]. but the
copy/paste behavior. Which I addressed. Mailnews linkage is a different
story as well. (and NOT A BUG imo for mailnews since the auto-link in
text-only-mode is correct)



You are recommending that I use HTML mail?


On a personal opinion only, no I am not recommending HTML mail. [I am 
sad that it is supported anywhere, but I at least recognize it works and 
people use it].


I am more saying that the correct way to auto-link in mailnews is as the 
link was done.


I have not yet tested this whole situation much (as I am hitting a trunk 
bug, XP only, where copy+paste doesn't work, at all. among other things) 
But if that bug is correct, copy/paste of the whole url-bar should 
generate %20's its only substring copies that don't. If that is not the 
case I *would* support a patch [on trunk only] to fix that.


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Re: OT: FF to Offer Do Not Track in browser...

2010-12-30 Thread Ed Mullen

L. Mark Hall wrote:

Doesn't your router software have release/renew? I can just log into
mine and get a new IP.


FWIW, Comcast cable modem in the Atlanta, GA area.  I've had only a few 
IP addresses over the last few years.  The modem has been power cycled 
several times but most times, even after many minutes of down-time, when 
it comes back up I've still got the same IP.  I don't much care and 
wouldn't even know except that I use VNC to provide remote support to 
some friends which requires my knowing my WAN IP to configure the 
connection. I've been surprised now INfrequently I've needed to 
reconfigure the app for a new IP addy over several years.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Maintenence Mode?

2010-12-30 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 23:51:02 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Philip Chee schrieb:
 On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:58:14 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 NoOp schrieb:
 wait until they
 try 2.1 and try backing down to 2.0 and realize that their calendars no
 longer are compatible.

 Who says that they would not be compatible? From all I know, they are
 perfectly compatible so far.

 There is an incompatible change in the Lightning schema. It was
 mentioned in the calendar newsgroups and possibly planet.
 
 But IIRC updates work fine with that, just downgrades don't, right?

I *think* so but don't quote me on that.

Phil

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Re: recieve and post by newsgroup only

2010-12-30 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-12-30 7:29 PM, u...@domain.invalid wrote:

Thanks, I will give that a try.


To set your posting name, address, sig, etc., select the 
news.mozilla.org account in the folder pane, and click on View settings 
for this account.
That should open the account settings window, where you can set your 
identity info for news.mozilla.org.


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