Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-03-12 Thread cmcadams

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Martin F. wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

Nope. I _uninstalled_ SM1 once; profile was (and is) still present in
the default location. SM2 was then installed, and this thread was the
result.

I see a little too much difference of opinion on ways and means,
hereabouts, for total comfort. I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt a bit for
the developers to establish some official, specific guidelines for
manual profile transplants on the SM pages ...


There is, but that doesn't help if you don't read them:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey


I read that. Nothing there worked in my case.


This link is also mentioned in the Release Notes under the known issues:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues
The fact that your profile is not at the standard location results in
not being imported automatically I guess. So just perform the necessary
steps to migrate and you're done.
regards


The profile was in the default location. It's the program files that
were and are in a nonstandard location, on another partition. Yes, I
adjusted the command line to point to the actual location.


cmcadams, could you please humour me and

1- Re-install your old SM in its old, non-standard, location and let it
find your on SM profile.

2. Next, Un-install your SM 2 (the one that isn't working) and stick its
profile somewhere else, preferably compress it or something.

3. Now re-install SM 2 completely and let it find (import) your SM 1
profile.

4. If all the above has gone well, un-install SM 1.

Report back.

Daniel


Sorry. I blew most of a weekend on this, at the start, and there are too many 
emails/bookmarks under the bridge for me to risk going back and losing either. My 
setup (such as it is) remains stable, and I'll stick with it.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-03-12 Thread Daniel

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Martin F. wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

Nope. I _uninstalled_ SM1 once; profile was (and is) still present in
the default location. SM2 was then installed, and this thread was the
result.

I see a little too much difference of opinion on ways and means,
hereabouts, for total comfort. I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt a bit for
the developers to establish some official, specific guidelines for
manual profile transplants on the SM pages ...


There is, but that doesn't help if you don't read them:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey


I read that. Nothing there worked in my case.


This link is also mentioned in the Release Notes under the known
issues:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues
The fact that your profile is not at the standard location results in
not being imported automatically I guess. So just perform the necessary
steps to migrate and you're done.
regards


The profile was in the default location. It's the program files that
were and are in a nonstandard location, on another partition. Yes, I
adjusted the command line to point to the actual location.


cmcadams, could you please humour me and

1- Re-install your old SM in its old, non-standard, location and let it
find your on SM profile.

2. Next, Un-install your SM 2 (the one that isn't working) and stick its
profile somewhere else, preferably compress it or something.

3. Now re-install SM 2 completely and let it find (import) your SM 1
profile.

4. If all the above has gone well, un-install SM 1.

Report back.

Daniel


Sorry. I blew most of a weekend on this, at the start, and there are too
many emails/bookmarks under the bridge for me to risk going back and
losing either. My setup (such as it is) remains stable, and I'll stick
with it.


O.K.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-03-11 Thread Martin F.

cmcadams schrieb:

Nope. I _uninstalled_ SM1 once; profile was (and is) still present in
the default location. SM2 was then installed, and this thread was the
result.

I see a little too much difference of opinion on ways and means,
hereabouts, for total comfort. I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt a bit for
the developers to establish some official, specific guidelines for
manual profile transplants on the SM pages ...


There is, but that doesn't help if you don't read them:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey

This link is also mentioned in the Release Notes under the known issues:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues
The fact that your profile is not at the standard location results in 
not being imported automatically I guess. So just perform the necessary 
steps to migrate and you're done.

regards

Martin
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-03-11 Thread cmcadams

Martin F. wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

Nope. I _uninstalled_ SM1 once; profile was (and is) still present in
the default location. SM2 was then installed, and this thread was the
result.

I see a little too much difference of opinion on ways and means,
hereabouts, for total comfort. I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt a bit for
the developers to establish some official, specific guidelines for
manual profile transplants on the SM pages ...


There is, but that doesn't help if you don't read them:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey


I read that. Nothing there worked in my case.


This link is also mentioned in the Release Notes under the known issues:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues
The fact that your profile is not at the standard location results in
not being imported automatically I guess. So just perform the necessary
steps to migrate and you're done.
regards


The profile was in the default location. It's the program files that were and are in 
a nonstandard location, on another partition. Yes, I adjusted the command line to 
point to the actual location.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-23 Thread Daniel

Ray_Net wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is
nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a
developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration
works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and
result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone
setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step
one
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What happens if
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??

Daniel


No, because the best opinion I could find before installing 2.03 was
not
to.


Where did you find out that the best opinion was not to??


Through Google links, basically. 'Consensus' may have been putting it
too strongly. Say rather a mix of received/conventional wisdom and scary
stories.



That's correct, the best method for migration between SM1 and SM2 is to
first remove SM1 then install SM2.
In any case the migration process is influenced by the presence or not
of an installed SM1. So the test is not to be done.


I think there might be one or two people hereabouts that would suggest 
the bit of advise you have given here, Ray, is wrong.


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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-23 Thread Daniel

cmcadams wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

cmcadams wrote:


Mark Hansen wrote:


On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:


A question for the developers: In the installation there's a
target field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button
beside it. WHY is that button there if you already KNOW
installing to an alternative destination will likely fail?

Craig


Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?


I did.

See generally:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration




Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole
transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.


Your experience is completely different from mine. I installed SeaMonkey
over Mozilla on the first try. No muss, no fuss, just complete success.

Now, of course, my computer configuration is pretty plain vanilla, so
that may have something to do with it. I have no idea whether some of
your setup may be challenging SM in ways that I do not.



Paul,

Congratulations on your good fortune. I've had the same sorts of
problems every time there's been a major upgrade, specifically from
Mozilla to SM1, and now from SM1 to SM2. Somehow I've always made it
work. Fortunately minor-version updates aren't a problem. I might not
have anything more to worry about until the SM3 migrator bombs on me
(joke).

My SM installation is also pretty vanilla: Just the browser/email,
nothing fancy.

Craig


Does this mean, Craig, that you deleted Mozilla version 1.x.x before you 
installed SM version 1.x.x and SM 1 had troubles finding your profile 
and then, some time latter, you deleted SM Version 1.x.x before you 
installed SM version 2.x.x and SM 2 had troubles finding your profile??


I wonder why??

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-23 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is
nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a
developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration
works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and
result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone
setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step
one
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What
happens if
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??

Daniel


No, because the best opinion I could find before installing 2.03 was
not
to.


Where did you find out that the best opinion was not to??


Through Google links, basically. 'Consensus' may have been putting it
too strongly. Say rather a mix of received/conventional wisdom and scary
stories.



That's correct, the best method for migration between SM1 and SM2 is to
first remove SM1 then install SM2.
In any case the migration process is influenced by the presence or not
of an installed SM1. So the test is not to be done.


I think there might be one or two people hereabouts that would suggest
the bit of advise you have given here, Ray, is wrong.

Daniel
You think that the presence of an installed SM1 is needed to install SM2 
correctly ? I think the opposite. The only presence needed is the SM1 
profile.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-23 Thread cmcadams

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

cmcadams wrote:


Mark Hansen wrote:


On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:


A question for the developers: In the installation there's a
target field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button
beside it. WHY is that button there if you already KNOW
installing to an alternative destination will likely fail?

Craig


Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?


I did.

See generally:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration





Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole
transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.


Your experience is completely different from mine. I installed SeaMonkey
over Mozilla on the first try. No muss, no fuss, just complete success.

Now, of course, my computer configuration is pretty plain vanilla, so
that may have something to do with it. I have no idea whether some of
your setup may be challenging SM in ways that I do not.



Paul,

Congratulations on your good fortune. I've had the same sorts of
problems every time there's been a major upgrade, specifically from
Mozilla to SM1, and now from SM1 to SM2. Somehow I've always made it
work. Fortunately minor-version updates aren't a problem. I might not
have anything more to worry about until the SM3 migrator bombs on me
(joke).

My SM installation is also pretty vanilla: Just the browser/email,
nothing fancy.

Craig


Does this mean, Craig, that you deleted Mozilla version 1.x.x before you
installed SM version 1.x.x and SM 1 had troubles finding your profile
and then, some time latter, you deleted SM Version 1.x.x before you
installed SM version 2.x.x and SM 2 had troubles finding your profile??


Nope. I _uninstalled_ SM1 once; profile was (and is) still present in 
the default location. SM2 was then installed, and this thread was the 
result.


I see a little too much difference of opinion on ways and means, 
hereabouts, for total comfort. I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt a bit for 
the developers to establish some official, specific guidelines for 
manual profile transplants on the SM pages ...


Craig
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-22 Thread Daniel

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is
nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step one
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What happens if
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??

Daniel


No, because the best opinion I could find before installing 2.03 was not
to.


Where did you find out that the best opinion was not to??


It's something to try. I also see what Robert was saying...and it
may pay me to experiment, trying out different install targets, and
whatever else I can vary along the way. What I find may even be of use
to the developers. :)

My major problem is that my C: partition is pared down so much (for the
sake of fast partition backups, as I mentioned far, far above somewhere)


My C:\ is for system files, my D:\ is for my applications (including 
SeaMonkey) and my E:\ is for my SeaMonkey Profile, my Documents and my 
Games.


As a bit more complexity, I also have Linux (my main operating system) 
on this computer, and its (Linux) SeaMonkey also uses the profile on the 
Windows E:\



it's problematic installing Seamonkey to the default location. And
there's an extended partition sitting on top of C:, complicating things
a tad more.



Don't install SM in the default location if you want (I don't think I've 
every had Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey in their default locations), it 
should make zero difference!



Might be a few days. Fun time is done for this weekend.

Craig


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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

cmcadams wrote:


Mark Hansen wrote:


On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:


A question for the developers: In the installation there's a
target field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button
beside it. WHY is that button there if you already KNOW
installing to an alternative destination will likely fail?

Craig


Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?


I did.

See generally: 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration



Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole 
transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.


Your experience is completely different from mine. I installed SeaMonkey 
over Mozilla on the first try. No muss, no fuss, just complete success.


Now, of course, my computer configuration is pretty plain vanilla, so 
that may have something to do with it. I have no idea whether some of 
your setup may be challenging SM in ways that I do not.


--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-22 Thread cmcadams

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

cmcadams wrote:


Mark Hansen wrote:


On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:


A question for the developers: In the installation there's a
target field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button
beside it. WHY is that button there if you already KNOW
installing to an alternative destination will likely fail?

Craig


Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?


I did.

See generally:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration



Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole
transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.


Your experience is completely different from mine. I installed SeaMonkey
over Mozilla on the first try. No muss, no fuss, just complete success.

Now, of course, my computer configuration is pretty plain vanilla, so
that may have something to do with it. I have no idea whether some of
your setup may be challenging SM in ways that I do not.



Paul,

Congratulations on your good fortune. I've had the same sorts of 
problems every time there's been a major upgrade, specifically from 
Mozilla to SM1, and now from SM1 to SM2. Somehow I've always made it 
work. Fortunately minor-version updates aren't a problem. I might not 
have anything more to worry about until the SM3 migrator bombs on me 
(joke).


My SM installation is also pretty vanilla: Just the browser/email, 
nothing fancy.


Craig
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-22 Thread Ray_Net

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is
nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration
works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and
result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone
setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step
one
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What happens if
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??

Daniel


No, because the best opinion I could find before installing 2.03 was not
to.


Where did you find out that the best opinion was not to??


Through Google links, basically. 'Consensus' may have been putting it
too strongly. Say rather a mix of received/conventional wisdom and scary
stories.



That's correct, the best method for migration between SM1 and SM2 is to 
first remove SM1 then install SM2.
In any case the migration process is influenced by the presence or not 
of an installed SM1. So the test is not to be done.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

cmcadams schrieb:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?


It isn't likely to fail - UNLESS you install OVER an old SeaMonkey version.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Hansen
On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:
 A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target 
 field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it. 
 WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an 
 alternative destination will likely fail?
 
 Craig

Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?

Why would they put a steering wheel in your car if steering the
car into a tree could be fatal? ;-\
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread cmcadams

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?


It isn't likely to fail - UNLESS you install OVER an old SeaMonkey version.

Robert Kaiser


Which it wasn't. And this is an ancient problem, as I discovered when 
filing a bugzilla report. Migration doesn't work in certain 
circumstances, period.


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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread cmcadams

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?

Craig


Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?


I did.

See generally:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration

Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole 
transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.



Why would they put a steering wheel in your car if steering the
car into a tree could be fatal? ;-\


Ask Toyota. Ask a meaningful question, get a meaningful answer.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

cmcadams schrieb:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?


It isn't likely to fail - UNLESS you install OVER an old SeaMonkey
version.

Robert Kaiser


Which it wasn't. And this is an ancient problem, as I discovered when
filing a bugzilla report. Migration doesn't work in certain
circumstances, period.


We know that it sometimes fails, we also know that those cases probably 
have no connection to the installation location, though.


And we got good data on one spaceific case of failure which we could 
narrow down to a crash and fix in 2.0.3 - if we get consistent data on 
where the failure happens, we can try and get it fixed.
Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice unfortuantely 
can't easily be narrowed down to a specific problem in our software. 
Unfortunately, many bug reports read somewhat like that.


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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice 
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and 
investigate the problem based on what's in there.


The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer 
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration works, so 
even the summary is wrong.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Hansen
On 2/21/2010 9:50 AM, cmcadams wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:
 A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
 field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
 WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
 alternative destination will likely fail?

 Craig

 Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?
 
 I did.
 
 See generally:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration
 
 Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole 
 transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.
 
 Why would they put a steering wheel in your car if steering the
 car into a tree could be fatal? ;-\
 
 Ask Toyota. Ask a meaningful question, get a meaningful answer.
 
 Craig

Sigh ... I tried.

Good luck.
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Daniel

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step one 
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What happens if 
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??


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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread cmcadams

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step one
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What happens if
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??

Daniel


No, because the best opinion I could find before installing 2.03 was 
not to. It's something to try. I also see what Robert was saying...and 
it may pay me to experiment, trying out different install targets, and 
whatever else I can vary along the way. What I find may even be of use 
to the developers. :)


My major problem is that my C: partition is pared down so much (for 
the sake of fast partition backups, as I mentioned far, far above 
somewhere) it's problematic installing Seamonkey to the default 
location. And there's an extended partition sitting on top of C:, 
complicating things a tad more.


Might be a few days. Fun time is done for this weekend.

Craig
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-20 Thread cmcadams

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs
worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration. That
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process. That
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved migration
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.

The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.

Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite, but
an improved migration tool, probably not.

Lee


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS of
1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into 2.03's
new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config files, is in
the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.


This is the best recipe to have a lot of garbled and useless data even
in your future, and that's why migration selectively copies only the
really needed data and what can safely be migrated without disturbing
your existence.

Robert Kaiser


As it happens nothing appears to be garbled, and I'm down to tweaking 
the small settings. What would you have had me do, after the wizard 
failed and nothing else worked except what I described?


Craig
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-20 Thread Leonidas Jones

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

/snip/


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS of
1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into 2.03's
new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config files, is in
the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.


This is the best recipe to have a lot of garbled and useless data even
in your future, and that's why migration selectively copies only the
really needed data and what can safely be migrated without disturbing
your existence.

Robert Kaiser


As it happens nothing appears to be garbled, and I'm down to tweaking
the small settings. What would you have had me do, after the wizard
failed and nothing else worked except what I described?

Craig


Transfer only the selected data you really needed, such as your email 
files, bookmarks, cookies, etc.


SeaMonkey 2.0 ans sm 1.1 are very, very different programs. By copying 
over the entire profile, you are moving all kinds of data that does not 
apply to SM 2, and can cause problems.  So far you seem to be lucky, but 
something may yet happen.  For your sake, I hope not. The best case is 
there a lot of stuff in the profile that is just taking up space. The 
worst case it that it might cause corruption in the future.


I was lucky in that all the profiles I transferred came through with no 
issues. Had I had a problem, I would have created a new, clean profile 
in SM 2, opened Mail/News, and recreated my mail accounts in the order I 
had them in SM 1.1.18.  T would then close SeaMonkey, and move across 
the appropriate subfolders from the old profile to the new.  After 
openinf SM and verifying that the data is there, I would have closed SM 
and moved bookmarks, passwords and cookies.  For my use, that is all I 
need.  Any extensions or themes need to be reinstalled anyway.


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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-20 Thread cmcadams

Leonidas Jones wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

/snip/


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS of
1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into 2.03's
new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config files,
is in
the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.


This is the best recipe to have a lot of garbled and useless data even
in your future, and that's why migration selectively copies only the
really needed data and what can safely be migrated without disturbing
your existence.

Robert Kaiser


As it happens nothing appears to be garbled, and I'm down to tweaking
the small settings. What would you have had me do, after the wizard
failed and nothing else worked except what I described?

Craig


Transfer only the selected data you really needed, such as your email
files, bookmarks, cookies, etc.



SeaMonkey 2.0 ans sm 1.1 are very, very different programs. By copying
over the entire profile, you are moving all kinds of data that does not
apply to SM 2, and can cause problems. So far you seem to be lucky, but
something may yet happen. For your sake, I hope not. The best case is
there a lot of stuff in the profile that is just taking up space. The
worst case it that it might cause corruption in the future.

I was lucky in that all the profiles I transferred came through with no
issues. Had I had a problem, I would have created a new, clean profile
in SM 2, opened Mail/News, and recreated my mail accounts in the order I
had them in SM 1.1.18. T would then close SeaMonkey, and move across the
appropriate subfolders from the old profile to the new. After openinf SM
and verifying that the data is there, I would have closed SM and moved
bookmarks, passwords and cookies. For my use, that is all I need. Any
extensions or themes need to be reinstalled anyway.


Tried as you suggested after a little more creative directory backing 
up. The upshot is, it didn't work, and I don't propose wasting more 
time on it. What I've got works: All accounts, emails, passwords, 
permissions, et al are all in good working order and display and edit 
correctly in their respective manager screens. Perhaps my setup is a 
very simple one.


If anyone has, say, a list of specific files to beware of, or measures 
to take, I'll take another look at it. In the meantime I'll let 
sleeping dogs lie until they stop breathing. In which case there's 
still 1.1.18.


A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target 
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it. 
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an 
alternative destination will likely fail?


Craig
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread Leonidas Jones

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration.  That 
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process.  That 
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved migration 
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will 
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.


The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but 
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.


Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite, but 
an improved migration tool, probably not.


Lee
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread Lance Courtland

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration. That
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process. That
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved migration
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.

The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.

Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite, but
an improved migration tool, probably not.

Lee


After many failed profile migration attempts, I discovered the key is to 
change the program group that SM is installed in.  Instead of accepting 
the default Seamonkey, I changed it to Seamonkey2.  Migration proceeded 
normally, and all my profile settings, email, passwords, etc. were 
carried over.  Plug-ins and extensions were lost and had to be manually 
re-installed.


HTH

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread Leonidas Jones

cmcadams wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration. That
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process. That
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved migration
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.

The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.

Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite, but
an improved migration tool, probably not.

Lee


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS of
1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into 2.03's
new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config files, is in
the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.

Can someone now explain to me what the heck the red underlines under
certain words are about, when you're typing a message in 2.03?

Craig


Its your spellchecker, flagging a misspelling.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread cmcadams

Leonidas Jones wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs
worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration. That
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process. That
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved migration
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.

The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.

Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite, but
an improved migration tool, probably not.

Lee


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS of
1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into 2.03's
new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config files, is in
the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.

Can someone now explain to me what the heck the red underlines under
certain words are about, when you're typing a message in 2.03?

Craig


Its your spellchecker, flagging a misspelling.


Ah. Not misspellings, just not in the dictionary. I had it turned off 
in 1.1.18.


Craig
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread Phillip Jones

cmcadams wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration. That
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process. That
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved migration
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.

The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.

Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite, but
an improved migration tool, probably not.

Lee


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS
of 1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into
2.03's new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config
files, is in the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.

Can someone now explain to me what the heck the red underlines under
certain words are about, when you're typing a message in 2.03?

Craig
That's the spellchecker indicating the words are misspelled,or its not 
familiar with the words, in which case you have it to learn the word.


--
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread Leonidas Jones

cmcadams wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items
after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc.
The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are
installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs
worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration. That
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process. That
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved
migration
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.

The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.

Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite, but
an improved migration tool, probably not.

Lee


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS of
1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into 2.03's
new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config files, is in
the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.

Can someone now explain to me what the heck the red underlines under
certain words are about, when you're typing a message in 2.03?

Craig


Its your spellchecker, flagging a misspelling.


Ah. Not misspellings, just not in the dictionary. I had it turned off in
1.1.18.

Craig


You can always right click and add them to the dictionary.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread Graham

cmcadams wrote:

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.


You should not install SM2 into the same directory used for SM1.

Graham.
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-19 Thread cmcadams

Leonidas Jones wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported
everything,
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items
after
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc.
The
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.

The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are
installed
to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with
SeaMonkey 2-
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs
worked-out, I
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey
not
to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of
when a
good version comes out.

Jack


I'm afraid you're wrong there.

The problem the OP posted was one of a problem profile migration. That
is not a flaw in the program itself, but in the migration process.
That
is not going to improve. Anyone who is waiting for an improved
migration
tool is going to have a long wait. In fact, the profile migration will
probably go away entirely, though that will be a while.

The real answer is to migrate the data manually. It may be a pain but
once its done its done, and you willbe positioned to move on.

Yes, we all hope that there will be many improvements to the suite,
but
an improved migration tool, probably not.

Lee


Okay, that worked. Thank you very much.

For those who might Google this in the future, I copied the CONTENTS of
1.1.18's *.slt folder (not the folder itself, but from within the
folder) to the clipboard, made a backup copy of 2.03's as-installed
*.default folder (just in case) and then deleted the contents of that
folder. I then Pasted the copied contents of 1.1.18's *.slt into 2.03's
new *.default folder. That folder, containing 2.03's config files,
is in
the new 2.03-created Seamonkey folder visible from:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data\Mozilla

Et voila.

Can someone now explain to me what the heck the red underlines under
certain words are about, when you're typing a message in 2.03?

Craig


Its your spellchecker, flagging a misspelling.


Ah. Not misspellings, just not in the dictionary. I had it turned off in
1.1.18.

Craig


You can always right click and add them to the dictionary.

Lee


I had it turned off, before. Forgot it was there and didn't recognize 
it when it showed up again.


Craig
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Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-18 Thread cmcadams

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything, 
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after 
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The 
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.


The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed to:

E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where 
someone has?







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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-18 Thread user

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything, 
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after 
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The 
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.


The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed 
to:


E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where 
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2- 
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I 
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not 
to search for a upgrade.  Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a 
good version comes out.


Jack
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-18 Thread cmcadams

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My

Profiles
Bookmarks
Email and newsgroup accounts
Addresses
Saved emails

didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything, 
but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after 
installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The 
browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use.


The OS is XP SP3.

Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed 
to:


E:\Mozilla\SMonkey

to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image
backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location.

1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place:

C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data

Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where 
someone has?







I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2- 
the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I 
think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not 
to search for a upgrade.  Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a 
good version comes out.


Jack


Was afraid of that. Thanks.

Craig
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