Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-19 Thread meagain
Original Message Perhaps the picture is created by copy/paste into the mail and not attached ... so visible in html mode and invisible in text mode. I've had that happen to my recipients - so now I'll do both (which is a waste).

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-13 Thread GerardJan
Daniel wrote: Richmond wrote on 13/05/18 04:32: Ray_Net wrote: Why must TB or SM show a part of the HTML part when reading exclusively in plain-text. If you position your option to plain-text-only don't expect to reach the HTML part ... Permitting to access the html part is an aberration ...

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-13 Thread Daniel
Richmond wrote on 13/05/18 04:32: Ray_Net wrote: Why must TB or SM show a part of the HTML part when reading exclusively in plain-text. If you position your option to plain-text-only don't expect to reach the HTML part ... Permitting to access the html part is an aberration ... If you want to

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-12 Thread Richmond
Ray_Net wrote: > Why must TB or SM show a part of the HTML part when reading exclusively > in plain-text. > If you position your option to plain-text-only don't expect to reach the > HTML part ... > Permitting to access the html part is an aberration ... > > If you want to see the attachment

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread NoOp
On 5/9/2018 2:40 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: > NoOp wrote: >> On 5/8/2018 12:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote: >>> NoOp wrote on 08-05-18 19:03: Have you tried the already included: View|Message Body As|All Body Parts that is included in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird?

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne
NoOp wrote: On 5/8/2018 12:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote on 08-05-18 19:03: Have you tried the already included: View|Message Body As|All Body Parts that is included in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird? I did not have that option for "Message Body As" I have only those 3 choices: -

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread NoOp
On 5/8/2018 12:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote: > NoOp wrote on 08-05-18 19:03: >> On 5/8/2018 1:31 AM, Richmond wrote: >>> Richmond wrote: Ray_Net wrote: > Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: >> The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if >> you want to display the

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Frank-Rainer Grahl: >It builds but that is about all :) > >Didin't try today. Mozilla just removed another few bits from Gecko and jorgk >just pushed a bustage fixe for mailnews. The new build succeeded. The first SM 2.59. :) Hartmut ___

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Wed, 9 May 2018 08:04:01 +0200, _Ray_Net_: Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 22:21: Bugzilla isn't just for bugs though, it's for change requests too. The fact that it is working correctly doesn't mean it is useful or should never be changed. Why must TB or SM show a part of the HTML part when

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
It builds but that is about all :) Didin't try today. Mozilla just removed another few bits from Gecko and jorgk just pushed a bustage fixe for mailnews. FRG Hartmut Figge wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl: We really need to fix the current bustages first... Well, yesterday a build of SM-Trunk

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Frank-Rainer Grahl: >We really need to fix the current bustages first... Well, yesterday a build of SM-Trunk on Linux x86_64 succeeded. After a relative long time of bustages. But building is broken again. :) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Ray_Net
Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 22:21: Ray_Net wrote: Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 10:02: Ray_Net wrote: Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no interpretation of

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Richmond
Ray_Net wrote: > Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 10:02: >> Ray_Net wrote: >>> Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no interpretation of embedded headers at

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Ray_Net
Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 10:02: Ray_Net wrote: Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no interpretation of embedded headers at all, as that would be more secure.

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Ray_Net
NoOp wrote on 08-05-18 19:03: On 5/8/2018 1:31 AM, Richmond wrote: Richmond wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no interpretation of

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne
Richmond wrote: OK I have recreated the problem as follows: On my iPhone, I created a spreadsheet using the Numbers app. (I don't think it matters what the attachment is, this is just an example). I then sent this to myself by email. (It is not obvious [to me] how to do this, I searched for it,

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread NoOp
On 5/8/2018 1:31 AM, Richmond wrote: > Richmond wrote: >> Ray_Net wrote: >>> Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no interpretation of embedded

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Ed Mullen
On 5/8/2018 at 12:07 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius: Ok, Ok, but if the correction is possible thru an addon, It would be not so difficult to put the code of the addon into the source of TB. I did not know what a "bustage" is google-translate cannot help me in french.

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Ray_Net
Ok, Ok, but if the correction is possible thru an addon, It would be not so difficult to put the code of the addon into the source of TB. I did not know what a "bustage" is google-translate cannot help me in french. Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 08-05-18 17:09: ... they are VERY VERY FEW

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
... they are VERY VERY FEW volunteers And shared mailnews code. If the TB devs don't think it can be fixed easy I wouldn't even touch it. We really need to fix the current bustages first or you won't see another SeaMonkey after the last 2.49.x. FRG Ray_Net wrote: That's not normal to

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Ray_Net
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 08-05-18 14:40: Tue, 8 May 2018 09:31:58 +0100, _Richmond_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/show-all-body-parts/ called "show all body parts" - an unfortunate name. :) Nice one – thanks for the reference. That's not normal to oblige us to

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Tue, 8 May 2018 09:31:58 +0100, _Richmond_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/show-all-body-parts/ called "show all body parts" - an unfortunate name. :) Nice one – thanks for the reference. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Richmond
Richmond wrote: > Ray_Net wrote: >> Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: >>> The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if >>> you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no >>> interpretation of embedded headers at all, as that would be more secure. >>>

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-08 Thread Richmond
Ray_Net wrote: > Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: >> The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if >> you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no >> interpretation of embedded headers at all, as that would be more secure. >> But it doesn't do that

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Ray_Net
Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54: The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no interpretation of embedded headers at all, as that would be more secure. But it doesn't do that either, unless you use

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Ray_Net
Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 06-05-18 00:34: Ray_Net wrote: It's normal that the attachment is available when you send a plain-text mail with an attachment... but try to compose and send an HTML mail with a copy/paste on the content of a picture instead of adding an attachment - then the guy

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread EE
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 6 May 2018 14:31:34 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: It depends on how the client handles it, and Ray is not correct for SeaMonkey at least.  If you View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text on an HTML message with an embedded image – the image

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Mon, 7 May 2018 18:17:47 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:17:46 +0100, _Richmond_: I can see the image on your article without problem. It does not say it is an attachment though, and the content disposition is "inline", so it is not like my example. In my example, nothing at

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Mon, 7 May 2018 09:17:46 +0100, _Richmond_: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Richmond
The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no interpretation of embedded headers at all, as that would be more secure. But it doesn't do that either, unless you use ctrl-U.

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Richmond
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: > > With all said here, and elsewhere in this thread – next time try > unchecking: > >    View -> Display Attachments Inline > > and see if it makes a difference for you. > It didn't make any difference. I think the "inline" thing is a red herring. Probably what I

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Richmond
OK I have recreated the problem as follows: On my iPhone, I created a spreadsheet using the Numbers app. (I don't think it matters what the attachment is, this is just an example). I then sent this to myself by email. (It is not obvious [to me] how to do this, I searched for it, then selected it

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Richmond
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: > Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_: > >> I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not >> show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message >> from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say >>

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Richmond
Ray_Net wrote: > Richmond wrote on 05-05-18 01:11: >> EE wrote: >>> Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Richmond wrote: >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Richmond wrote: >>> I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Sun, 6 May 2018 15:05:32 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:23:45 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_: Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-07 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Sun, 6 May 2018 20:27:54 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: So the first time I've composed an HTML message and inserted an image it retained the file name information so it appears as attachment when viewed as plain text.  Next I've used Edit As New... and the file name

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-06 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 6 May 2018 14:31:34 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: It depends on how the client handles it, and Ray is not correct for SeaMonkey at least.  If you View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text on an HTML message with an embedded image – the image

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-06 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Sun, 6 May 2018 14:31:34 -0400, _Paul B. Gallagher_: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: It depends on how the client handles it, and Ray is not correct for SeaMonkey at least.  If you View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text on an HTML message with an embedded image – the image will then appear as an

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-06 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 6 May 2018 00:27:56 +0200, _EE_: Ray_Net wrote: It's normal that the attachment is available when you send a plain-text mail with an attachment... but try to compose and send an HTML mail with a copy/paste on the content of a picture instead of adding an

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-06 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Sun, 6 May 2018 00:27:56 +0200, _EE_: Ray_Net wrote: It's normal that the attachment is available when you send a plain-text mail with an attachment... but try to compose and send an HTML mail with a copy/paste on the content of a picture instead of adding an attachment - then the guy who

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-06 Thread EE
Ray_Net wrote: EE wrote on 05-05-18 19:53: Richmond wrote: EE wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-06 Thread GerardJan
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say that there

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-06 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
Wed, 2 May 2018 14:06:47 +0100, _Richmond_: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say that there are attachments without

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Ray_Net wrote: It's normal that the attachment is available when you send a plain-text mail with an attachment... but try to compose and send an HTML mail with a copy/paste on the content of a picture instead of adding an attachment - then the guy who receive your mail - if he force the

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-05 Thread Ray_Net
EE wrote on 05-05-18 19:53: Richmond wrote: EE wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-05 Thread EE
Richmond wrote: EE wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-04 Thread Ray_Net
Richmond wrote on 05-05-18 01:11: EE wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-04 Thread Richmond
EE wrote: > Richmond wrote: >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Richmond wrote: > >> I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not >> show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded >> message

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-04 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
EE wrote: From what I understood from using Thunderbird, attachments are removed from messages before forwarding them. Not so in SeaMonkey. Here, they remain as attachments, whether you send in plain text or HTML. I can't vouch for TB. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-04 Thread EE
Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-03 Thread Richmond
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Richmond wrote: >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Richmond wrote: >>> I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this what we

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-02 Thread Ray_Net
Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 02-05-18 17:56: Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Earlier today, I wrote: Not sure what you mean "show attachments," but there are a couple of ways for you to detect that a message contains an attachment. 1) In the message list, you'll see column headings like "Subject," "From," "Date," "Status," etc. On the far right, if you've enabled it,

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Richmond wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say that there are

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-02 Thread Richmond
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Richmond wrote: > >> I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not >> show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message >> from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say >> that there are attachments

Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Richmond wrote: I have SM set to view the message body as plain text. But it does not show attachments. At least it did not show some in a forwarded message from an apple mail client. Is this what we want? It could at least say that there are attachments without trying any further