Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-08 Thread chicagofan

chicagofan wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

My new msgFilterRules.dat has 1KB [from today's entries] and 
there is a "rulesbackup.dat" file *created when that happened, 
that has 15KB.  Is that the same file, or is that backup for 
something else on that date?

I've never heard nor seen a rulesbackup.dat and I really don't know
 what it is.

How would I put it back if I had a backup?  Just change the name 
of the backup file and delete the new one?

I would give that a try.  Besure to do it with SM closed.  When you
 reopen SM are they there?



I'm going to skip the restore attempt, because I found that all of 
the news groups I read but that *one*, still had their original 
filters.


It's only the one group that has SO many filters that was wiped out.
 That's why I still believe it has a "volume" limitation, which 
created a file over-run or something..   Sure wish I knew what it is.

 :)



P.S.  -  The lst message looks like that, because I'm having that "line
wrap" problem again.  Having to use rewrap makes this mess.
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Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-08 Thread chicagofan

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


My new msgFilterRules.dat has 1KB [from today's entries] and there
 is a "rulesbackup.dat" file *created when that happened, that has
 15KB.  Is that the same file, or is that backup for something else
 on that date?


I've never heard nor seen a rulesbackup.dat and I really don't know 
what it is.



How would I put it back if I had a backup?  Just change the name of
 the backup file and delete the new one?


I would give that a try.  Besure to do it with SM closed.  When you 
reopen SM are they there?



I'm going to skip the restore attempt, because I found that all of the
news groups I read but that *one*, still had their original filters.

It's only the one group that has SO many filters that was wiped out.
That's why I still believe it has a "volume" limitation, which created a 
file

over-run or something..   Sure wish I knew what it
is.  :)
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Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-06 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

chicagofan wrote:


My new msgFilterRules.dat has 1KB [from today's entries] and there is a
"rulesbackup.dat" file *created when that happened, that has 15KB.  Is
that the same file, or is that backup for something else on that date?


I've never heard nor seen a rulesbackup.dat and I 
really don't know what it is.



How would I put it back if I had a backup?  Just change the name of the
backup file and delete the new one?  


I would give that a try.  Besure to do it with SM 
closed.  When you reopen SM are they there?


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Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-06 Thread chicagofan

Leonidas Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Do you have a back up? Try putting the backup filter back.


Don't have a backup unless SM created one, when I got that message
 it was rebuilding.  :(

I'll check out the files, and come back.  Thanks... :) bj


I'm sorry to say, backups should be the responsibility of the user, 
not the program.  If you have a regular backup routine, as we all 
should, you really should include your SeaMonkey profile folder. That

 would have helped you in this instance.  Its a learning experience.

Lee



I didn't expect SM to have a backup, the message led me to believe there
might have been one created in this instance, for some reason.  There
was a backup file created on that date, but I'm not sure that's it.

LOL... I did remember yesterday, that I made a backup of my profile a
couple of weeks ago, when I upgraded to 1.1.14, but now I can't find
that "safe place" where I put it.  Some people are just hopeless.  :)
bj

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Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-06 Thread chicagofan

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
I am in mourning!  Apparently I exceeded the number of filters SM 
could handle and the file exploded.  I got a message that my filter
 files were being rebuilt.  I see today, that meant... that they 
had been wiped out, and I'll have to start over.


To avoid this in the future, can anyone tell me *how many* is "too
 many"... so I don't do this again?  There's one newsgroup that is
 impossible to read without an abundance of filters.  :) bj


well, in one I've got over 1815 filters, and about 2/3 of them 
contain more than one filter setting.  In another account I've got 4 
filters and each one contains over 100 settings, so I doubt that is 
your problem.



That sounds like the number of files I had, before.  Many within one
filter/group.


Something being rebuilt sounds more of the index files are being 
rebuilt.  I haven't heard of the filters being rebuilt.  What happens

 if you reopen the program.



SM opened fine, and I just had empty filters.  I don't think this had
anything to do with the installation of 1.1.14.  That was 2 weeks ago.

I've never seen this message before, and I think it said something about
"not able to read" msgfilter rules.


Close SM and take a look at the filter files in the SM profile.  You 
should have a file called msgFilterRules.dat for each mail/news 
account you have filters set up for. Take a look at the file and see 
how big it is.  Do you have a back up? Try putting the backup filter 
back.



My new msgFilterRules.dat has 1KB [from today's entries] and there is a
"rulesbackup.dat" file *created when that happened, that has 15KB.  Is
that the same file, or is that backup for something else on that date?

How would I put it back if I had a backup?  Just change the name of the
backup file and delete the new one?  Or copy and paste the backup file
into the newly created file?

Actually, I'm resigned to manually recreating the filters, I just wondered
if there was a known *maximum* that I should watch out for in this version
of SM?   :)
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Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

chicagofan wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

I am in mourning!  Apparently I exceeded the number of filters SM could
handle and the file exploded.  I got a message that my filter files were
being rebuilt.  I see today, that meant... that they had been wiped out,
and I'll have to start over.

To avoid this in the future, can anyone tell me *how many* is "too
many"... so I don't do this again?  There's one newsgroup that is
impossible to read without an abundance of filters.  :)
bj
well, in one I've got over 1815 filters, and about 2/3 
of them contain more than one filter setting.  In 
another account I've got 4 filters and each one 
contains over 100 settings, so I doubt that is your 
problem.


Something being rebuilt sounds more of the index files 
are being rebuilt.  I haven't heard of the filters 
being rebuilt.  What happens if you reopen the program.


Close SM and take a look at the filter files in the SM 
profile.  You should have a file called 
msgFilterRules.dat for each mail/news account you have 
filters set up for. Take a look at the file and see how 
big it is.  Do you have a back up? Try putting the 
backup filter back.




Don't have a backup unless SM created one, when I got that message it 
was rebuilding.  :(


I'll check out the files, and come back.  Thanks... :)
bj


I'm sorry to say, backups should be the responsibility of the user, not 
the program.  If you have a regular backup routine, as we all should, 
you really should include your SeaMonkey profile folder. That would have 
helped you in this instance.  Its a learning experience.


Lee
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Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-05 Thread chicagofan

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

I am in mourning!  Apparently I exceeded the number of filters SM could
handle and the file exploded.  I got a message that my filter files were
being rebuilt.  I see today, that meant... that they had been wiped out,
and I'll have to start over.

To avoid this in the future, can anyone tell me *how many* is "too
many"... so I don't do this again?  There's one newsgroup that is
impossible to read without an abundance of filters.  :)
bj


well, in one I've got over 1815 filters, and about 2/3 
of them contain more than one filter setting.  In 
another account I've got 4 filters and each one 
contains over 100 settings, so I doubt that is your 
problem.


Something being rebuilt sounds more of the index files 
are being rebuilt.  I haven't heard of the filters 
being rebuilt.  What happens if you reopen the program.


Close SM and take a look at the filter files in the SM 
profile.  You should have a file called 
msgFilterRules.dat for each mail/news account you have 
filters set up for. Take a look at the file and see how 
big it is.  Do you have a back up? Try putting the 
backup filter back.




Don't have a backup unless SM created one, when I got that message it 
was rebuilding.  :(


I'll check out the files, and come back.  Thanks... :)
bj
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Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-05 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

chicagofan wrote:

I am in mourning!  Apparently I exceeded the number of filters SM could
handle and the file exploded.  I got a message that my filter files were
being rebuilt.  I see today, that meant... that they had been wiped out,
and I'll have to start over.

To avoid this in the future, can anyone tell me *how many* is "too
many"... so I don't do this again?  There's one newsgroup that is
impossible to read without an abundance of filters.  :)
bj


well, in one I've got over 1815 filters, and about 2/3 
of them contain more than one filter setting.  In 
another account I've got 4 filters and each one 
contains over 100 settings, so I doubt that is your 
problem.


Something being rebuilt sounds more of the index files 
are being rebuilt.  I haven't heard of the filters 
being rebuilt.  What happens if you reopen the program.


Close SM and take a look at the filter files in the SM 
profile.  You should have a file called 
msgFilterRules.dat for each mail/news account you have 
filters set up for. Take a look at the file and see how 
big it is.  Do you have a back up? Try putting the 
backup filter back.


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SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-05 Thread chicagofan

I am in mourning!  Apparently I exceeded the number of filters SM could
handle and the file exploded.  I got a message that my filter files were
being rebuilt.  I see today, that meant... that they had been wiped out,
and I'll have to start over.

To avoid this in the future, can anyone tell me *how many* is "too
many"... so I don't do this again?  There's one newsgroup that is
impossible to read without an abundance of filters.  :)
bj
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